I'll bet on the "kid's" optomism and philosophy any day. If we dwell on all that's not just right, that's what we'll continue to get.
Has anyone read a best seller titled "The Power of Negative Thinking"? How about "The Eight Ways to Success Through Complaining"?
Packers, I admire your attitude!
chicochip
While my income is 50 percent of what it was 6 years ago (mostly because of retirement), I feel relatively better off because I've paid off my home's mortgage loan and my two son's college educations have been completed and paid for. It helps to be "house rich", meaning I have less house (half compared to the average in the area) than I could have afforded in my higher-income years. Of course, the layout room is a lot smaller than I want.
Mark
Sawyer Berry
Clemson University c/o 2018
Building a protolanced industrial park layout
Packers1 wrote: GraniteRailroader wrote: 2-8-8-0 wrote: Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this? Thanks for the laugh...I bet he still reads "Goodnight Moon" Stayin out of this, gotta just stay out of this. BTW, have fun with all your worries. Least I ain't got that yet. Ha.
GraniteRailroader wrote: 2-8-8-0 wrote: Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this? Thanks for the laugh...I bet he still reads "Goodnight Moon"
2-8-8-0 wrote: Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this?
Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this?
Thanks for the laugh...
I bet he still reads "Goodnight Moon"
Stayin out of this, gotta just stay out of this. BTW, have fun with all your worries. Least I ain't got that yet. Ha.
And I can't wait till you do!
2-8-8-0 wrote:Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this?
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Packers1 wrote:Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.
Packers, with all due respect, you don't have any clue what you're talking about.You live under Mommy and Daddy's roof where you get a warm bed and three squares a day.
For my spouse and I to make a living and sustain ourselves, we both have to work copius amounts of overtime just to have a little extra to make ends meet. Each night, I report for work at 8 PM (oops, thats in 35 minutes!) and most nights work a full twelve hours before the taxi arrives to deadhead back to the home terminal. That's about fourteen hours of work, each day. Now do that six days a week. Repeat fifty two times per year. I have 8-10 hours of "home life and a good majority of that is spent sleeping (albeit on the couch) while my spouse is at work. I see her for about three hours in the evening before I have to go to work.
Riding a bicycle to the gorcery store is not a viable option for us. We do our shopping once every two weeks and carrying 12-15 bags of groceries on a bicycle is only going to leave you with an absolute mess if you can make it home.
I drive a gas guzzling SUV. I'm paying $4.12 a gallon for gasoline right now. Yeah, it hurts the wallet but there are other solutions to reduce gas use. We plan our meals (and our shopping) and do everything in one big trip. This reduces those every other night trips to the super market to get one or two items.
The cost for me to heat my home this winter is going to break the bank for me. At 4.40 a gallon, I'm looking at over $1200 to fill the tank. That's $1200 dollars that doesn't touch my savings account, or that doesn't go towards groceries and other bills.
Need I bring up the high cost of healthcare? I've got a $2500 dollar deductible still, and it's halfway through the year. Any doctors visits, prescriptions, etc, all have to come out of my pocket.
Yes, we will get through it, and times may be (or get) tough(er), but all bad things do get better at some point. But you lack the life experience to be preaching about it. It sure must be tough trying to find the 35 cents for an extra milk with your school lunch...
loathar wrote: Packers1 wrote: MrKLUKE wrote: I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation. Jeff (MrKLUKE) Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.I love it! Words of wisdom from a 15 year old! Go get a job, move out of your parents house,try and support yourself, then lose your job and all you've worked for and see if you whistle the same smug tune there junior!
Packers1 wrote: MrKLUKE wrote: I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation. Jeff (MrKLUKE) Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. Suck it up, folks. Ride a bike to places. If the grocery store is within biking distance of your house, use your bike (gotta run that by my parents). Do your scenery the old way, get the natural materials. Hey, no matter what, you'll normally be alive. So suck it up, and quit complaining. It'll pass, just like the great depression. I get so tired of hearing crud like "global warming" or that "the economy is bad". It's doomsday crud. Forget about it. Oh, and the OPEC ain't helpin nothing either.
MrKLUKE wrote: I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation. Jeff (MrKLUKE)
I agree with the 3 guys that say "DEAL WITH IT". We can roll over and die OR we can fight it, live smarter, think of new ways to make money, etc. NO, I don't make much money but I know what to cut out and I can figure out ways to adapt. I understand people with physical disabilities and things like that have a much harder time. BUT, to all the healthy people out there...figure it out man!! Gas at $4/gallon is a pain but how much does the bottled water cost if you base it on a per gallon price? MORE than gas. How many people think nothing of that kind of stuff? It's a mind game. Gotta stay sharp and out-smart the system. Most of all, gotta stay positive and stop dwelling on the negatives. You won't get ahead that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see some positive thinkers out there. I'm lovin' life. It's short so embrace it. We have become a spoiled nation.
Jeff (MrKLUKE)
I love it! Words of wisdom from a 15 year old!
Go get a job, move out of your parents house,try and support yourself, then lose your job and all you've worked for and see if you whistle the same smug tune there junior!
Did the kid that still has a bedtime seriously just say this? Welcome to northeast Ohio, home of 21% unemployment and rampant crime. Ill just "suck it up" and it will all get better....
Wow.
I feel the crunch. I'm on retirement and SS, and I've frozen the income from my stocks (WHAT income right now?). I'm probably better off than some because my house is paid for and living alone, I don't have that many expenses. And I'm still in demand as an accompanist at various Parishes around the town, so any income I get from those jobs I can kind of relegate to the MR fund (though less than I used to). And if I can possibly get to those jobs on Public Transportation here in Sacramento, the car is relegated to the driveway.
Like some others, my parents came up during the Depression, so I learned the value of a dollar at an early age. But I'm also a Creature of Habit. Just saw an ad for the new Sunset Z-6 Challengers again in the latest issue of MRC. I need a Z-6 like a hole in the head, but for some obscure and esoteric reason, I've decided that I'm going to have a Z-6 before I die, so right now I'm looking into the accrued interest on my Insurance Policy which I have never touched in my life, and wondering--Hm, should I or not? But then, the locos aren't going to be available until late '08. Hm, how many Masses can I play until then--can I dip into my son's Inheritance--Hell, my son makes more than I DO!
And right now I'm b###hing that I spent $14 on some Hydrocal that I can't use, because it sets up too darned fast in this hot, dry, California summer weather.
Wow And reading some of the posts, I'M complaining? Somebody shoot me.
Tom
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
Morpar wrote: I get really depressed when I look at my 401K fund. At this rate, I won't be able to retire EVER!
I get really depressed when I look at my 401K fund. At this rate, I won't be able to retire EVER!
If you still have some years of working, think how much more stock you can buy because their prices are "so" low now and can reap the gains when the stockmarket eventually rebounds. People lose money when they buy "high" and sell "low." If you believe stocks are low now, then it is a good time to buy. My recommendation is to buy stocks that have shown they can make a profit and pay a dividend, and are in a line of business that you believe will be viable in the future. (Pharmaceuticals meet the first two criteria but it is possible the government will regulate and tax that industry to collapse in the name of health care.) Food processing and alcoholic beverages will always be around.) Don't buy commercial bonds because interest rates are bound to go up, reducing the value of the bonds in the future.
Mark.
Thanks, Margaritaman.
In all honesty, I've never had a need to spell the author's name or the "punnish" words: media, medium, message, and massage because I've always mentioned this concept in an oral conversation - frequently with folks who have never read McLuhan or seen his short movie.
Frankly, I'm delighted that you took the time to read my post - and MORE delighted that you know of what I speak...but cannot spell!! Cool. Very, very cool!
I lift a Cuervo to you, sir.
chicochip wrote: As Marshall McCuhen sp? noted 45 or more years ago, "The media is the massage."
Close. Actually McLuhan. And it's "the medium is the message." Although it sure feels like a massage at times.
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loathar wrote: Yeah, but ground beef wasn't $4/lb. then.Tatans-Amen to those words brother! I WISH I could even get $6/hour here! Unemployment's over 9% here. And that's what the county says it is. NOT what it REALLY is! I'm glad I stocked up on some basic modeling supplies when I was working. I've got enough stuff to keep me busy for a while. I was drooling over an IHC Hudson at MB Klein last night. $59! Really hurts to not even be able to THINK about buying it! Even scratch building supplies are out of my price range because of the 100 mile round trip to get them.
Yeah, but ground beef wasn't $4/lb. then.
Tatans-Amen to those words brother! I WISH I could even get $6/hour here! Unemployment's over 9% here. And that's what the county says it is. NOT what it REALLY is!
I'm glad I stocked up on some basic modeling supplies when I was working. I've got enough stuff to keep me busy for a while. I was drooling over an IHC Hudson at MB Klein last night. $59! Really hurts to not even be able to THINK about buying it! Even scratch building supplies are out of my price range because of the 100 mile round trip to get them.
I pay 9 dollars per gallon of gas and 5-6 dollars per LB of ground beef. Welcome to Sweden.
Magnus
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Deal with it. You will survive. Stuff happens.
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Best advice anywhere.
Ditto. Enjoy the Hobby.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
richg1998 wrote: Deal with it. You will survive. Stuff happens.
richg1998 wrote: Went through this in the 1970s. The cost of gas reached the ungodly price of $1.00 or more.Deal with it. You will survive. Stuff happens.Rich
Went through this in the 1970s. The cost of gas reached the ungodly price of $1.00 or more.
Rich
When this year's election is over, we won't be constantly bombarded with "bad economic news" around the clock. Trust me, there is plenty of good economic news that remains unreported or under-reported. This seems to occur every four years, regardless of which way the political monemtum is headed.
Once we stop hearing as much doom and gloom, we'll all feel more optomistic, and we'll begin to more forward again. As Marshall McCuhen sp? noted 45 or more years ago, "The media is the massage."
If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.
This recession and inflation is breaking the backs of many families, it is very sad and very madenning also. Those of us on Fixed Income are really getting clobbered. Heating oil here in the Northeast is at $4.25 a gallon for #2 heating oil. Propane and natural gas are all headed UP as well, and if we have an early Winter, or a severe cold Winter, hold on to your wallets. I have 4 cords of wood ready for Winter to keep two woodburners going. Last year I used 520 gallons of oil for 12 month period, and I am going to try to reduce that use even further.
And guys, the REAL rate of inflation is between 8 and 10%, NOT the phony 4% that Fed is trying to tell us, so don't look for a COLA of over3.5% for SS this October. BUT, you can bet your life that Part "B" deduction for Medicare for those of us over 65 will be raised, and take away a large chunk of SS COLA increase.
I guess we will be buying more kits and Blue Boxes...."hear that Athearn???"
We're on a fixed income and last night I sold a nice camera on eBay to raise some extra cash. Fortunately we are able to use public transportation and don't even own a car, but the high cost of gasoline will start having a ripple effect on many consumer products.
Wish those folks in DC could get together for a change and start doing something constructive instead of blaming everyone else for the economic problems we face.
I'm gonna be scratch building some more buildings and rolling stock, and maybe practice some weathering techniques. But there are no major purchases planned for the railroad.
Wayne
Modeling HO Freelance Logging Railroad.
gandydancer19 wrote:Take the hobby in a new direction. Start scratch building. Modeling is still modeling, it just takes longer and costs less to scratch build. I have been on a $60 per month hobby allowance for 20 years. I have learned a lot about scratch building.
May be that's even a better direction. You are really doing railroad modelling and not railroad collecting. You earn all my respect for your scratch building projects.
Reinhard
My Mom and Dad went through the great depression. When I was growing up, I saw them save everything. My Dad used to get used lumber and pull the nails and straighten them out. I thought he was crazy. But guess what? I'm doing that now at 64. I am saving EVERYTHING.
Take the hobby in a new direction. Start scratch building. Modeling is still modeling, it just takes longer and costs less to scratch build. I have been on a $60 per month hobby allowance for 20 years. I have learned a lot about scratch building.
The only thing I think I have done right in the last three years is I bought a Civic Hybrid almost three years ago, just before gas prices started going up bad. I get 50 MPG City or Highway. I just love it. However, five years ago we switched our heat form Propane to oil. That's a bummer. I am now fully retired on a fixed income, so far so good. We are getting ready to expand our garden again. Every little bit helps. Glad I stuck it out and retired from the Navy.
Elmer.
The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.
(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
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cwclark wrote: loathar wrote: I've been out of work for almost 1 1/2 years! That leaves ZERO $$$ for the layout! A can of paint or a copy of MR is a cause for celebration for me.I've got 10 years management experience and I can't even get a job stocking grocery store shelves on third shift! I've applied at about 50 places in the last 3 weeks. Got ONE call for an interview. A job I was REALLY qualified for. I got 2 sentences out of my mouth and the woman interviewing me called out to the rest of the people in the office-LOOKY HERE! WE GOT US A OHIO YANKEE LOOKIN FER WERK!!!I REALLY frickin hate living in the South!!Maybe it's time to move away from thar' ...come to Houston..There are jobs everywhere here. They need 80,000 truckers in this area alone to move the goods. I don't know what it is, but when the country gets in an economic slump, Houston becomes a boom town....Of course most of the oil refineries are here which my have a lot to do with it....chuck
loathar wrote: I've been out of work for almost 1 1/2 years! That leaves ZERO $$$ for the layout! A can of paint or a copy of MR is a cause for celebration for me.I've got 10 years management experience and I can't even get a job stocking grocery store shelves on third shift! I've applied at about 50 places in the last 3 weeks. Got ONE call for an interview. A job I was REALLY qualified for. I got 2 sentences out of my mouth and the woman interviewing me called out to the rest of the people in the office-LOOKY HERE! WE GOT US A OHIO YANKEE LOOKIN FER WERK!!!I REALLY frickin hate living in the South!!
I've been out of work for almost 1 1/2 years! That leaves ZERO $$$ for the layout! A can of paint or a copy of MR is a cause for celebration for me.I've got 10 years management experience and I can't even get a job stocking grocery store shelves on third shift! I've applied at about 50 places in the last 3 weeks. Got ONE call for an interview. A job I was REALLY qualified for. I got 2 sentences out of my mouth and the woman interviewing me called out to the rest of the people in the office-LOOKY HERE! WE GOT US A OHIO YANKEE LOOKIN FER WERK!!!I REALLY frickin hate living in the South!!
Maybe it's time to move away from thar' ...come to Houston..There are jobs everywhere here. They need 80,000 truckers in this area alone to move the goods. I don't know what it is, but when the country gets in an economic slump, Houston becomes a boom town....Of course most of the oil refineries are here which my have a lot to do with it....chuck
I would if I could.
A-No money to move.
B-Taking care of my "ailing" mom here.
C-Diabetic...Can't get a CDL license! Trucking is the one thing that has a lot of openings here and I can't do it.
I've been offered my old jobs back in Oh. and Fl. if it weren't for the moving money and the "mom" thing.
Sorry. Didn't mean to vent. I'm just at my wits end these days.