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Which of your Locomotives have sound?

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Posted by Flashwave on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 10:32 AM
 rogertra wrote:

None.

And none will ever have sound until sound stops sounding like a 1960s transistor radio.

Easier solution: Forget what a Tranisstor Radio sounds like.

I'll give you that they may not yet sound real, but you also gotta remember we aren't hearing them the same way we hear a real loco. I like sound, because of the realistic options. It may not sound great, but it's there. Pressing F3 is still more realistic than blowing air through your teeth. Maybe not as fun... There are some bad decoders, but I;ve yet to hear one sound "Tinny" 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 9:02 AM
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None.

And none will ever have sound until sound stops sounding like a 1960s transistor radio.

As soon as you can install a large woofer in them, they will stop sounding like a transister radio.  Ok, I know you exagerate but honestly, what can you expect from a speaker that will fit in an HO diesel?  There can only be so much base frojm them - ie, not much.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 8:59 AM

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I have 6 with sound (DCC). 2 are BLI locos, one is a genesis set (yes, with the MRC sound), 3 are set up with various types of Soundtraxx decoders. That's out of about 60 locos. Get more than 2 or 3 of these things fired up and it becomes more annoying than pleasant.

I have over 90 loco's so far and not one with sound yet.  Most of the loco's I've purchased haved not been offered with sound except for the Genesis F units.  I have 10 Genesis F diesels so far but due to reports of the low quality MRC sound units in them, I opted to save the money and get them as plain Jane Genesis.  I also believe that a layout full of sound equipped loco's would get annoying very fast so I'm not in a hurry to spend the very substantial extra cost on the engines.  As it is, I am ordering a Proto 2000 F7 set with sound in one of the AB sets because I do want to have a few loco's with sound for the novelty of it and they are supposed to be much better quality than Genesis.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 6:48 AM
 rogertra wrote:

None.

And none will ever have sound until sound stops sounding like a 1960s transistor radio.

Confused [%-)] Funny, the latest units from BLI that I've heard sound anything but tinny.

Check this out: http://www.qsisolutions.com/news/qhbspk_072907.html

My LHS's owner was testing one of the new AC6000CW on his test track about a year or so back.  You could hear the horn outside of the shop with the door closed!  Tinny????????????????????? 

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Posted by UpNorth on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 1:26 AM

I have 2 Bachmann 2-8-0 with Tsunami, 3 IHC with Tsunami (installed myself), one Shay (to be modified for sound).  I enjoy doing the mods and I enjoy the noise they all generate.  If I can stop tinkering with the CV's it would be fun also.  

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Posted by dinwitty on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 12:54 AM
 rogertra wrote:

None.

And none will ever have sound until sound stops sounding like a 1960s transistor radio.

 

you forget the big sound they did have (echo chamber that is....)

 

BTW all my engines make noises...

 

errr....

 

I have an old sound system pre-DCC , actually 2, one steam, one diesel I tinkered with.

Today, 2 steamers, BLI-2-6-6-4 and LL NKP 2-8-4, just about everything I can may get sound/DCC as I can muster it as time goes...DCC too new, my equipment much older....

 

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Posted by rogertra on Monday, June 2, 2008 9:57 PM

None.

And none will ever have sound until sound stops sounding like a 1960s transistor radio.

Cheers

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Posted by mustanggt on Monday, June 2, 2008 6:16 PM

I have 2 so far- an Atlas C40-8 and a kato F40PH. And I agree, it is more peaceful and theraputic without the sound. But a miniature locomotive making realistic noise is pretty cool though...

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, June 2, 2008 12:23 PM

So far a Genesis SCL SD45-2 with a LokSound system installed and wonderfully custom tuned by CMarchand.  I plan on having more sound installed over the year.

I absolutely enjoy hearing that turbocharged EMD "whine" and the smooth blast of a Nathan RS5T-RRO horn ( edited and uploaded from the Diesel Air Horns website).Headphones [{(-_-)}]

I'm looking forward to the QSI sound units.  I very much like Lok Sound, but for the Nathan M5 horn sound, QSI's version sounds the most melodic, plus it has a sweet sounding reverb.  I'd like this for several P2K E-units that I'm repainting into Seaboard Coast Line's scheme.

 

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Posted by nscaleboy77 on Monday, June 2, 2008 10:30 AM

Well since im in N Scale and unless i buy a 500.00 broadway limited that wouldnt match anything im modeling, i like to make the train noises myself.Wink [;)]

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Posted by wmshay06 on Monday, June 2, 2008 8:14 AM

Frank  - my railroad has the following loco's with sound : 2-6-6-6 C&O Allegheny, 2-6-6-2 C&O H-5, C&O F-7 A+B+A consist, C&O 2-8-2 K-8 (BLI kitbash).  Two came factory installed, the other two I installed.  I have one more loco to do with sound, C&O GP-7.  I have some volume adjustments yet to play with, but I will never turn back from using DCC with sound.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, June 2, 2008 8:00 AM
I find with Atlas engines the end of the long hood on an RS or GP engine usually has enough room for a 1/2" speaker and enclosure. You might need to trim down the light tube some of the engines have a little bit, but it's usually do-able without much effort.
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Posted by Packer on Monday, June 2, 2008 7:44 AM

None of mine have sound. I have found some room in some of my engines for a small speaker.

I have a plan to put a sound decoder into one of my GP30s with a DH165L0, I run them as a set, so only one would need sound. My SD9s have some room, so they could get sound decoders too. As for my U28B and GP9s, I have yet to find room, but they are available with sound already installed.

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by wedudler on Monday, June 2, 2008 1:11 AM

Many engines have sound. Look at my roster. And like you see, with most engines I've installed an ESU Loksound decoder, sometimes the Loksoound micro with good success.

It's fun to run a steamer with sound. You drive sooo slowly, following each hiss.

And there's another point. Listen to my YouTube vid with my GE 44-ton "Henry".

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Posted by HarryHotspur on Sunday, June 1, 2008 10:21 PM
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"Get one sound engine and you're hooked."  Yup, that sounds about right.

I bought a Proto 0-6-0 with sound, and then added sound myself to an Alco RSC-3.  Next was an SW-8 switcher, which I found with sound at Walthers for $100.  Then, it was a BLI Hudson, again purchased with sound.

I just finished adding sound to a trolley car, using a downloadable Digitrax sound decoder.

Next, I'll probably look into adding sound to one of my GP-9's.  They don't get much action anymore, unless, as you suggested, they're consisted with the Alco to make some noise.  I'd also like sound in my S1, but that's going to be a tight fit.  (The SW-8, a similar engine in size, needs traction tires to make up for the low weight of an engine filled with a speaker and electronics.)

The old, old, noisy Athearn F7's probably aren't worth it.  They're too noisy all by themselves.  The subway cars can't be heard, as they spend their days in the tunnels.  The other trolley, maybe, and the other Geep will likely get sound in the future if the first one comes out well.

You need to get those things kids call "bass shakers" and hook 'em up to your stereo. Then when the subway comes by your whole room will shake. Very realistic. Smile [:)]

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Posted by da_kraut on Sunday, June 1, 2008 8:10 PM

Thank you,

thank you everybody for the very informative responses.   My LHS also recommends Loksound and Digitrax.  It seems like Loksound is also thought of quite highly on this forum.

Last time while at his store he was showing a steam engine to a customer for whom he had installed a Loksound decoder.  It was truly great. 

It must sound terrific when a heavy freight has an emd, ge and alco all working together with the sounds of all the different engines at the same time.  It is just a matter of time before my engines all have sound. 

Frank

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Posted by mike_ruby on Sunday, June 1, 2008 5:51 AM
I have over 20 sound equipped diesels, with more to convert. My storage sidings are under scenery at the back of my layout. I find if you have the sound turned down to a realistic level, i.e you can't hear the engine sound more than 6' away (not like many where you would hear it 10 scale miles away!), I find that the hidden locos are barely audible. Plus I turn the power off once the train is parked, also all the decoders I've come across can be muted with a function button.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, June 1, 2008 12:40 AM

I have no sound-equipped locos, and no intention to modify any of my roster with sound.

  • My pattern of operation precludes, "Just do one."  In a normal operating schedule, every locomotive hauled train will have its own dedicated locomotive - two, if it's either steam or catenary powered.  That would require sound for, at least, my entire steam roster.
  • My layout configuration is such that a lot of mileage is run in the netherworld - and I could see the look on the face of some mundane visitor with obvious steam loco sounds coming from the vicinity of the major passenger station, while the only train in sight is a string of DMU cars!  (The passenger staging yard is directly under the main station.)
  • My primary stamping grounds for steam feature long, continuous upgrades.  A prototype steam locomotive faced with those conditions would sound like cannonfire.  The space available for a speaker enclosure in my largest steamer would give it the bark of an asthmatic Chihuahua...

If this be heresy, so be it.

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Posted by selector on Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:50 PM
 fiatfan wrote:

I have none and it will remain that way.  My train room is a sanctuary of quiet.  About the only sound I hear is the click of metal wheels over the occasional gap in the rails.

 

Tom 

Tom, your words carry a lot of meaning in them, and I understand completely.  It should be a pleasure for you.  And, as you say, a sanctuary, a refuge.  So, I am happy you have that.

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Posted by wjstix on Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:35 PM

About 1/4th of mine have sound. I would like to have all my steam engines sound equipped, I recently added the MRC Sounder to a Spectrum 2-6-6-2 and liked it; inexpensive, easy to install and good sound. With diesels, I'm usually running them in pairs so I find having one with sound and one without running together works out OK.

I've mainly concentrated so far on doing installations that were pretty easy, like Soundtraxx drop-in board replacements for Atlas engines. It takes up the same space as the light board, and finding space for a 1/2" speaker and enclosure is pretty easy.

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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:47 PM
 fiatfan wrote:

I have none and it will remain that way.  My train room is a sanctuary of quiet.  About the only sound I hear is the click of metal wheels over the occasional gap in the rails.

 

Tom 

ANd you know what, there's something decidedly theraputic about that. I suspect I'll run that way too. But it;s nice to have the option. ANd fior me, the quiet goes away when somethibng goes horribly wrong

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Posted by fiatfan on Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:40 PM

I have none and it will remain that way.  My train room is a sanctuary of quiet.  About the only sound I hear is the click of metal wheels over the occasional gap in the rails.

 

Tom 

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Posted by lvanhen on Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:23 PM
I started collecting locos in the early '60's - so none of them had sound.  About 3 years ago I bought a Lionel Veranda Turbine DC/DCC with sound.  After trying to get the sounds by flipping the directional switch on my DC pack, I took the DCC plunge!  I have since bought an Athearn Challenger, 2 Atlas diesels with sound and an Atlas diesel DCC with no sound.  What a difference since getting used to sound!!  It will get sound soon!!  I have since then also gotten a BLI NW7, an Athearn MP15AC, and a FDT Trackmobile.  If I could figure a way to get sound into the trackmobile I would!!  It's nothing but sound for me - someday some of the old collection will also get sound, but for now I'm keeping DC/DCC with a DPDTCO switch.  Headphones [{(-_-)}]
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Posted by Great Western Rwy fan on Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:10 PM

Of My 65 or so loco's only 2 have decoders, Both with MRC mini decoders.

This one is a Spectrum 2-8-0 Consolidation, I lettered for the Great Western Rwy...

and this one A Proto 2000 Gp7 which I painted and lettered also for the GW...

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Posted by leejax01 on Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:38 PM
Selector, you forgot the evil laugh... hah hah hah hah haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Posted by selector on Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:30 PM

All of mine have sound.  I just couldn't do it without any more.  It's convenient when it is also a DCC decoder that is doing it because it all fits neatly into the installation and you get the benefits of DCC.

Having said that, I wonder if BLI I cashing in on their choice to go hard at the BlueLine market.  It seems there is still a lot of DC out there (Why not?  It works!), and now the DC world is slowly spiraling in their death throes toward sound, like moths....next they'll want to try one DCC engine, and then we'll have 'em. Mischief [:-,]

Hee hee.

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Posted by leejax01 on Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:20 PM
About half of mine have sound, and that is because I made sure this time I bought more sound units. All my steam have sound( a must IMHO for steam). I also believe that only one engine in a consist should have sound...most likely the lead engine. Any more and it can get on the nerves pretty quickly. If I have multiple sound units in a consist, I usually mute all but one. Sound can be reasonable if you shop around and if you can install yourself.
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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:06 PM
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Frank

Goto DCC. Suspect your on the verge. About half of my roster of 120 are deemed to be getting sound. I have only about 20 I have done, and about 5 with QSI. If you want accurate sound and railfan at the same time, I would look into LoK Sound. Sound is very addictive. Even if the loco doesn't come with sound equiped, I just take the loco to my LHS and he does the milling for me and advanced installation for me. You only put sound and DCC into "Good" locos. I will let you be the judge of whats good and bad.  But to answer your question, Nothing but Kato's so far and the Proto 2000 QSI's.

CASO

Try easy. The easier it is to install, the more likely you'l do it. But consider too:

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1)Which engines will you show if you have guests? (Family, friends, etc)

2)Which engines will you run the most? or least, if sound will bug you)

3)Which engines are the best, or least,detailed? A sound decoder will either be that last piece or the piece that saves an otherwise neat but maybe lower engine from a life of shop displays.

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Posted by Caso.Sub on Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:54 PM

Frank

Goto DCC. Suspect your on the verge. About half of my roster of 120 are deemed to be getting sound. I have only about 20 I have done, and about 5 with QSI. If you want accurate sound and railfan at the same time, I would look into LoK Sound. Sound is very addictive. Even if the loco doesn't come with sound equiped, I just take the loco to my LHS and he does the milling for me and advanced installation for me. You only put sound and DCC into "Good" locos. I will let you be the judge of whats good and bad.  But to answer your question, Nothing but Kato's so far and the Proto 2000 QSI's.

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Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:03 PM

My HO scale steamers with sound. All run with NCE Power Can.

Roundhouse 4-4-0, 2 ea 2-6-0, 2-8-0.

Spectrum 4-4-0

MDC Climax 

All have the SoundTraxx Micro-Tsunami. 

Waiting. Spectrum 4-6-0

Three older MDC steamers.

Rich 

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