Hello everybody,
One of my locomotives has sound that works while the engine runs on DC. This has me hooked. So the question for to all of you is do all of your engines have sound. The other option is to have only a designated few locomotives with sound and then take one of these engines into the consist to give the lash up sound.
What is your experience.
Thank you
Frank
"If you need a helping hand, you'll find one at the end of your arm."
"Get one sound engine and you're hooked." Yup, that sounds about right.
I bought a Proto 0-6-0 with sound, and then added sound myself to an Alco RSC-3. Next was an SW-8 switcher, which I found with sound at Walthers for $100. Then, it was a BLI Hudson, again purchased with sound.
I just finished adding sound to a trolley car, using a downloadable Digitrax sound decoder.
Next, I'll probably look into adding sound to one of my GP-9's. They don't get much action anymore, unless, as you suggested, they're consisted with the Alco to make some noise. I'd also like sound in my S1, but that's going to be a tight fit. (The SW-8, a similar engine in size, needs traction tires to make up for the low weight of an engine filled with a speaker and electronics.)
The old, old, noisy Athearn F7's probably aren't worth it. They're too noisy all by themselves. The subway cars can't be heard, as they spend their days in the tunnels. The other trolley, maybe, and the other Geep will likely get sound in the future if the first one comes out well.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
Frank--
I'm DC also, and I have several BLI steamers with sound. Unfortunately, it takes so much power to get the sound working on these locos (they're DC/DCC) that it's impossible to run them with my non-sound DC brass locos (by the time the BLI's are moving, the straight DC brass is rocketing around the layout like the Kentucky Derby), so I don't use them very much, unless I'm planning on running ONLY sound steam. Unfortunately, none of the 'sound' locos are for the railroad I model (Rio Grande) so when I run them, I run them only as 'loaners' from other railroads.
For a sound system (since I do like sound), I settled on a 'fixed' sound system with speakers under the table and a Soundtraxx "Heritage Steam" unit. It's very Generic, though a lot of special effects can be programmed into the unit. The drawback of course, is that the sound is constant and not moving with the loco. I haven't really looked into it, but I'm hoping that some manufacturer will take pity on us poor DC'ers and come up with a tender-mounted sound system that will work. Actually, there may be one out there, I suppose with all of my other projects, that I haven't really looked that hard.
But I do like sound--it makes the railroad come ALIVE!
Tom
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I have one BLI 2-8-0 On30 with sound , its alright but if you look close the chuffs are out of sync. I also have the Bachmann Forney (On30) with sound it is much better to my ear. When the On30 4-4-0 comes out with sound I will get it most likely. Operating on other layous with numerous engines with sound can be a bit much. The volume must be turned down.
Dave
Lackawanna Route of the Phoebe Snow
Which of your locos have sound?
None.
Can't wait to get it built so I can start saving up for the DCC upgrade.
-Morgan
My HO scale steamers with sound. All run with NCE Power Can.
Roundhouse 4-4-0, 2 ea 2-6-0, 2-8-0.
Spectrum 4-4-0
MDC Climax
All have the SoundTraxx Micro-Tsunami.
Waiting. Spectrum 4-6-0
Three older MDC steamers.
Rich
If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.
Goto DCC. Suspect your on the verge. About half of my roster of 120 are deemed to be getting sound. I have only about 20 I have done, and about 5 with QSI. If you want accurate sound and railfan at the same time, I would look into LoK Sound. Sound is very addictive. Even if the loco doesn't come with sound equiped, I just take the loco to my LHS and he does the milling for me and advanced installation for me. You only put sound and DCC into "Good" locos. I will let you be the judge of whats good and bad. But to answer your question, Nothing but Kato's so far and the Proto 2000 QSI's.
CASO
Caso.Sub wrote: FrankGoto DCC. Suspect your on the verge. About half of my roster of 120 are deemed to be getting sound. I have only about 20 I have done, and about 5 with QSI. If you want accurate sound and railfan at the same time, I would look into LoK Sound. Sound is very addictive. Even if the loco doesn't come with sound equiped, I just take the loco to my LHS and he does the milling for me and advanced installation for me. You only put sound and DCC into "Good" locos. I will let you be the judge of whats good and bad. But to answer your question, Nothing but Kato's so far and the Proto 2000 QSI's.CASO
Try easy. The easier it is to install, the more likely you'l do it. But consider too:
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1)Which engines will you show if you have guests? (Family, friends, etc)
2)Which engines will you run the most? or least, if sound will bug you)
3)Which engines are the best, or least,detailed? A sound decoder will either be that last piece or the piece that saves an otherwise neat but maybe lower engine from a life of shop displays.
All of mine have sound. I just couldn't do it without any more. It's convenient when it is also a DCC decoder that is doing it because it all fits neatly into the installation and you get the benefits of DCC.
Having said that, I wonder if BLI I cashing in on their choice to go hard at the BlueLine market. It seems there is still a lot of DC out there (Why not? It works!), and now the DC world is slowly spiraling in their death throes toward sound, like moths....next they'll want to try one DCC engine, and then we'll have 'em.
Hee hee.
Of My 65 or so loco's only 2 have decoders, Both with MRC mini decoders.
This one is a Spectrum 2-8-0 Consolidation, I lettered for the Great Western Rwy...
and this one A Proto 2000 Gp7 which I painted and lettered also for the GW...
I have none and it will remain that way. My train room is a sanctuary of quiet. About the only sound I hear is the click of metal wheels over the occasional gap in the rails.
Life is simple - eat, drink, play with trains!
Go Big Red!
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fiatfan wrote: I have none and it will remain that way. My train room is a sanctuary of quiet. About the only sound I hear is the click of metal wheels over the occasional gap in the rails. Tom
ANd you know what, there's something decidedly theraputic about that. I suspect I'll run that way too. But it;s nice to have the option. ANd fior me, the quiet goes away when somethibng goes horribly wrong
About 1/4th of mine have sound. I would like to have all my steam engines sound equipped, I recently added the MRC Sounder to a Spectrum 2-6-6-2 and liked it; inexpensive, easy to install and good sound. With diesels, I'm usually running them in pairs so I find having one with sound and one without running together works out OK.
I've mainly concentrated so far on doing installations that were pretty easy, like Soundtraxx drop-in board replacements for Atlas engines. It takes up the same space as the light board, and finding space for a 1/2" speaker and enclosure is pretty easy.
Tom, your words carry a lot of meaning in them, and I understand completely. It should be a pleasure for you. And, as you say, a sanctuary, a refuge. So, I am happy you have that.
-Crandell
I have no sound-equipped locos, and no intention to modify any of my roster with sound.
If this be heresy, so be it.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Thank you,
thank you everybody for the very informative responses. My LHS also recommends Loksound and Digitrax. It seems like Loksound is also thought of quite highly on this forum.
Last time while at his store he was showing a steam engine to a customer for whom he had installed a Loksound decoder. It was truly great.
It must sound terrific when a heavy freight has an emd, ge and alco all working together with the sounds of all the different engines at the same time. It is just a matter of time before my engines all have sound.
MisterBeasley wrote:"Get one sound engine and you're hooked." Yup, that sounds about right.I bought a Proto 0-6-0 with sound, and then added sound myself to an Alco RSC-3. Next was an SW-8 switcher, which I found with sound at Walthers for $100. Then, it was a BLI Hudson, again purchased with sound.I just finished adding sound to a trolley car, using a downloadable Digitrax sound decoder.Next, I'll probably look into adding sound to one of my GP-9's. They don't get much action anymore, unless, as you suggested, they're consisted with the Alco to make some noise. I'd also like sound in my S1, but that's going to be a tight fit. (The SW-8, a similar engine in size, needs traction tires to make up for the low weight of an engine filled with a speaker and electronics.)The old, old, noisy Athearn F7's probably aren't worth it. They're too noisy all by themselves. The subway cars can't be heard, as they spend their days in the tunnels. The other trolley, maybe, and the other Geep will likely get sound in the future if the first one comes out well.
You need to get those things kids call "bass shakers" and hook 'em up to your stereo. Then when the subway comes by your whole room will shake. Very realistic.
- Harry
Many engines have sound. Look at my roster. And like you see, with most engines I've installed an ESU Loksound decoder, sometimes the Loksoound micro with good success.
It's fun to run a steamer with sound. You drive sooo slowly, following each hiss.
And there's another point. Listen to my YouTube vid with my GE 44-ton "Henry".
Wolfgang
Pueblo & Salt Lake RR
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None of mine have sound. I have found some room in some of my engines for a small speaker.
I have a plan to put a sound decoder into one of my GP30s with a DH165L0, I run them as a set, so only one would need sound. My SD9s have some room, so they could get sound decoders too. As for my U28B and GP9s, I have yet to find room, but they are available with sound already installed.
Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
Frank - my railroad has the following loco's with sound : 2-6-6-6 C&O Allegheny, 2-6-6-2 C&O H-5, C&O F-7 A+B+A consist, C&O 2-8-2 K-8 (BLI kitbash). Two came factory installed, the other two I installed. I have one more loco to do with sound, C&O GP-7. I have some volume adjustments yet to play with, but I will never turn back from using DCC with sound.
Charles
Well since im in N Scale and unless i buy a 500.00 broadway limited that wouldnt match anything im modeling, i like to make the train noises myself.
CAABooom, clash clash, inshatttt insssshatt, ca cling, ca cling, trough trough trrrrough, woooooooooo, wooooooo, chugga chugga, choo choo, troughhhh troughhh troughhh.