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Academy of Weird Locomotives

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Posted by teen steam fan on Friday, May 30, 2008 3:56 PM
they aren't kiddin 14 drivers were does that sucker run?

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Posted by vsmith on Friday, May 30, 2008 3:52 PM

Heres one of my favorite oddball locos, the Soviet AA20, a monster 4-14-4 locomotive known as the "Great Straightener of Curves"

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/russ/russrefr.htm

 

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Posted by vsmith on Friday, May 30, 2008 3:45 PM
 AltoonaRailroader wrote:

Ok VSmith, you win!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] That is quite a collection you have there. Can I ask, what is the big blue horseshoe shapped thing on the top of the boiler in the third pic?

Thanks

Its a coal bunker, the loco is an Americanized version of a Darjeeling Himilayn Railways Class B

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Posted by AltoonaRailroader on Friday, May 30, 2008 1:48 PM

Ok VSmith, you win!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] That is quite a collection you have there. Can I ask, what is the big blue horseshoe shapped thing on the top of the boiler in the third pic?

 

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Posted by Flashwave on Friday, May 30, 2008 1:12 PM
 teen steam fan wrote:

O.K yall like the strange try this,

 

4468 - Mallard A LNER Class A4 4-6-2 Pacific Steam Locomotive

 

Guess what this steamer is. (heads up, don't count on seeing this on U.S.A rails)

I don't know the type, but all I can think of is Mallard. It;s a european high speed (Britian I think) that took several steam speed records. It's cool, but it doesn't beat a Daylight in terms of good looks.

EDIT: It's on the front. It's an A4 Clsss

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Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, May 30, 2008 12:36 PM
 teen steam fan wrote:

O.K yall like the strange try this,

 

4468 - Mallard A LNER Class A4 4-6-2 Pacific Steam Locomotive

 

Guess what this steamer is. (heads up, don't count on seeing this on U.S.A rails)

 

Looks like "Back to The Future"

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Posted by teen steam fan on Friday, May 30, 2008 12:25 PM

O.K yall like the strange try this,

 

4468 - Mallard A LNER Class A4 4-6-2 Pacific Steam Locomotive

 

Guess what this steamer is. (heads up, don't count on seeing this on U.S.A rails)

If you can read this... thank a teacher. If you are reading this in english... thank a veteran

When in doubt. grab a hammer. 

If it moves and isn't supposed to, get a hammer

If it doesn't move and is supposed to, get a hammer

If it's broken, get a hammer

If it can't be fixed with a hammer... DUCK TAPE!

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Posted by Flashwave on Friday, May 30, 2008 12:10 PM
There's some HOn3s of those running around on Ebay

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Posted by xxactraxx on Friday, May 30, 2008 11:20 AM

Hmmm... I've always thought that Garratts were kinda peculiar.  But how about this?  The very first Cab Forward, NPC No. 21, the Thomas Stetson, right here in Marin County?

http://www.ironhorse129.com/Projects/Engines/NPC_21/NPC_No21.htm

... the granddaddy of all those AC-#'s that climbed through the Sierras a few decades later...

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Posted by alco49 on Friday, May 23, 2008 6:13 PM

OK, I get the message, Chad and Mark! My sincere apologies to amtrak and everybody who wants to attack me because of that post. I dont have anything against european locos, just thought it looked a liitle unusual as an Amtrak loco. This had better not scar me for life...Black Eye [B)]

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, May 23, 2008 3:35 PM
 Heartland Division CBandQ wrote:

I scanned this drawing from Iron Horses of the Santa Fe trail:

Great, something else I wanna try to make a rendering off...Thanks a lot...Evil [}:)]

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, May 23, 2008 2:25 PM

I scanned this drawing from Iron Horses of the Santa Fe trail:

 

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Posted by Flashwave on Friday, May 23, 2008 12:20 PM
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Ah, weird locomotives. One of my favorite subjects of railroading history.

My favorite has got to be the locomotive notorious for destroying the Whyte System...the 0-6-2+2-4-2-4-2+2-6-0 Franco-Crosti, no. 2096:

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/francocrosti/francocrosti.htm

I've dabled in weird locomotives myself...

Original Steasel Concept

Could that be a Fairbanks Morse T-Liner? That's right, an FM Turbine Experiment.

A modern day MoW truck, The Pack Mule.

And some other train drawings HERE.

You have MODELS too? Okay, now i'm jealous. And I may just have to borrow your Galloping Hummer. The Steasal's always cool, annd love me the turbines 

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, May 23, 2008 12:05 PM

Ah, weird locomotives. One of my favorite subjects of railroading history.

My favorite has got to be the locomotive notorious for destroying the Whyte System...the 0-6-2+2-4-2-4-2+2-6-0 Franco-Crosti, no. 2096:

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/francocrosti/francocrosti.htm

I've dabled in weird locomotives myself...

Original Steasel Concept

Could that be a Fairbanks Morse T-Liner? That's right, an FM Turbine Experiment.

A modern day MoW truck, The Pack Mule.

And some other train drawings HERE.

Scott - Dispatcher, Norfolk Southern

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Posted by chadw on Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:47 PM

 alco49 wrote:
OK, i'll try again. 

I think this only qualifies as weird if you don't live near the NEC.  I live a few miles from the Northeast Corridor and AEM-7's are one of the most common locos I see.

AEM-7's have a European flavor because they are based on the Swedish Rc-4.

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Posted by alco49 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:24 PM

From the side maybe, but the top...

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Posted by markpierce on Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:47 PM

 alco49 wrote:
OK, i'll try again. 

This is more of the unusual rather than weird or ugly.

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Posted by pcarrell on Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:28 PM
I don't know......it's not very astetically pleasing up top, but the rest has kind of a european flavor to it.
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Posted by alco49 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:48 PM
OK, i'll try again. 
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Posted by alco49 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:46 PM
This wierd enough? Maybe It'd do better in the Academy of Ugly Locomotives. http://www.nationalcorridors.org/df/df04042005a.jpg The Amtrak AEM- 7.
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Posted by n2mopac on Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:17 AM

Here is a weird locomotive. It is a slow mover and rather prone to be a fire hazzard. No wonder this baby didn't make it into revenue service.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:06 AM
 pcarrell wrote:

Would this be strange enough?

Oak Grove & Georgetown Railroad #5 (owner & modifier) - A "radial planetary" gear drive system was installed by the company's shops on this narrow gauge (3ft) rod locomotive in the early 1920's. The company, a logging railroad, was located in Georgetown, Alabama. Although it is unknown how the system worked, it was thought to have functioned as intended. 

My guess is that the side and main rods rotated the 'sun' gears, while the 'planet' gears were fixed to the wheels and the ring gear was held secure by the banjo-shaped housing over the whole works.  That would have caused the drivers to rotate at a lower speed, but with more torque, translating to more low-end horsepower at the cost of top speed.

Since a logging road would probably not be operating at high speed, the ability to start and move bigger low-speed trains MIGHT have been worth the complexity.  To my jaundiced eye (as a firm proponent of the KISS principle) it looks like a job security policy for the engine house mechanics.

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Posted by pcarrell on Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:43 AM

Would this be strange enough?

Oak Grove & Georgetown Railroad #5 (owner & modifier) - A "radial planetary" gear drive system was installed by the company's shops on this narrow gauge (3ft) rod locomotive in the early 1920's. The company, a logging railroad, was located in Georgetown, Alabama. Although it is unknown how the system worked, it was thought to have functioned as intended. 

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Posted by Animal on Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:29 AM

 

a 6-8-6 must have been very hard on the curves

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Posted by Rotorranch on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:08 PM
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This is additional evidence that some locomotive designers were nuts.  I wonder what advantage this design was to provide.

Talking 4-2-2s, the UK's Great Northern Railway had one with 8-foot diameter driving wheels.  I don't consider that one weird, only ungainly.

Mark

The designer claimed a higher top speed, as the drivers were overdriven by approximately 1.4 to 1.

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Posted by markpierce on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:58 PM
 chadw wrote:

Here's a good one!

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/fontaine/fontaine.htm

This is additional evidence that some locomotive designers were nuts.  I wonder what advantage this design was to provide.

Talking 4-2-2s, the UK's Great Northern Railway had one with 8-foot diameter driving wheels.  I don't consider that one weird, only ungainly.

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Posted by chadw on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:21 PM

Here's a good one!

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/fontaine/fontaine.htm

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Posted by WP 3020 on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:54 PM
 vsmith wrote:
 markpierce wrote:
 richg1998 wrote:

High pressure boilers.

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/USAhp/USAhp.htm

Rich 

I suppose there could have been a lot more of these weirdos if the diesel/electric revolution hadn't happen.

Mark

Rich , why not let the whole genie out of the bottle ???Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:24 PM
 markpierce wrote:
 richg1998 wrote:

High pressure boilers.

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/USAhp/USAhp.htm

Rich 

I suppose there could have been a lot more of these weirdos if the diesel/electric revolution hadn't happen.

Mark

Rich , why not let the whole genie out of the bottle ???Mischief [:-,]

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/locoloco.htm

Evil [}:)] BE WARNED Evil [}:)]

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you've been forwarnedSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

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Posted by PASMITH on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:09 PM
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How about an 0-4-4T return flue geared locomotive?  Confused [%-)]  SP's subsidiary Oregon & California Railroad had two of these, used during construction.  They were "numbered" "A" and "B" respectively.

With a return flu, the boiler gasses pass through to the front and returned to the rear of the boiler via U-shaped flues.  I presume this was an attempt toward efficiency by having the hot gasses pass through the boiler twice.  I'd bet it created a maintenance nightmare.

Mark




Wow, maybe I will try to kit bash my Joe Works Flying Zoo brass Falk River 0-4-0 ! They look similar up front

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