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Kay-toe or Cat-O
Posted by Ballantrae Road on Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:13 PM

This maybe a repeat thread,,,,but geez, is Cody right when he pronounces Kato as Cat-Oh? 

As for me....Kato is ....Kay-toe

Hope this doesn't create a war.

Ok now l'll go play with my trains and keep quiet.

 

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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:30 PM

I've always hear it Kayto The K the same we say Kaydee

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:40 PM
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:46 PM
 Ballantrae Road wrote:
he pronounces Kato as Cat-Oh?
Well, he is closer than Kayto.  I would say the "a" isn't a straight short a as in "cat".  Just call them up on the phone and listen to how they answer.  One would think they would know how to pronounce their own company name.  The closest I can come to spell it is, "Hello, Kaot-Oh."   This might be exactly what Jeff W. means above but I don't know how to pronounce an "aa".. ! :-)
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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:01 PM

I've been told that the correct pronunciation is caw-toe.  Where's Chuck (Tomikawa)?  I'll bet that he'd know.

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Posted by HarryHotspur on Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:42 PM
 doctorwayne wrote:

I've been told that the correct pronunciation is caw-toe.  Where's Chuck (Tomikawa)?  I'll bet that he'd know.

Wayne 

Thanks a rot!  Wink [;)]

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Posted by steemtrayn on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:05 AM
The TV series "Tracks Ahead" is sponsored by KAH-toe (or "cotto"). I'll believe them.
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Posted by Texas Chief on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:19 AM

 steemtrayn wrote:
The TV series "Tracks Ahead" is sponsored by KAH-toe (or "cotto"). I'll believe them.

After being stationed in Japan, I can tell you that "Kahto" is correct! The name "Kayto" comes from the TV series "Green Hornet". That's what Americans are used to and even though wrong, that's what they will call it.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:21 AM

When Japanese is written in Romaji, English/Roman alphabet, you can come very close by following Spanish pronunciation.  In the proper name Kato, the A has an ah sound; hence, "Kah-to."

For a word to have the long A sound, it would be rendered as E in Romaji.  The female name Keiko is pronounced, "Kay-ko."

Fun, isn't it.  (I'll leave explaining kanji - pictographs - for another time.)

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:20 AM
Logic would dictate that an entity like MR or Tracks Ahead would pronounce the name of one of their paid sponsors correctly.  To do otherwise would not make the sponsor very happy.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, May 18, 2008 11:37 AM
 Flashwave wrote:

I've always hear it Kayto The K the same we say Kaydee

 

___Ditto. How I've heard it time and time again.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, May 18, 2008 11:45 AM
 Flashwave wrote:

I've always hear it Kayto The K the same we say Kaydee

quote user="Packers#1

___Ditto. How I've heard it time and time again.

 

Proving only that Americans are ignorant of the Japanese language.

Gentle people, we are not debating opinions here, we are facing a fact.  The fact in question - the proper pronunciation of a Japanese name rendered in Romaji as Kato.

There is only one correct pronunciation, no matter how many times you've heard it mispronounced.  If you don't say Kah-to, you've proven my point.

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Posted by Flashwave on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:00 PM
 tomikawaTT wrote:
 Flashwave wrote:

I've always hear it Kayto The K the same we say Kaydee

quote user="Packers#1

___Ditto. How I've heard it time and time again.

 

Proving only that Americans are ignorant of the Japanese language.

Gentle people, we are not debating opinions here, we are facing a fact.  The fact in question - the proper pronunciation of a Japanese name rendered in Romaji as Kato.

There is only one correct pronunciation, no matter how many times you've heard it mispronounced.  If you don't say Kah-to, you've proven my point.

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - in its native language)

So it should be aw, like you say in a dentist's office, and the  o in two/to/too

I think it's more a proof of how few americans don't speak Japanese or know many people who do (none that I know of in Central Indiana) than pure ignorance.

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Posted by selector on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:04 PM
For those of you who have occasion to hear Spanish now and then, or who do speak it, think of cat...as in "gato".   Now substitute a K for the G, and you are in business.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:16 PM
When is Kato coming out with something new in HO??
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Posted by dansapo on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:32 PM
 davidmbedard wrote:

At the end of the day, does it really matter?  A Kato is still a Kato, no matter how you say it.

David B

Yup.

The mods should make some stickys for topics that have been beaten to death.If you know what it is then you've made the right choice.

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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Sunday, May 18, 2008 2:07 PM

I matters, and it is worth talking about.  After all, it's not just a company, it is a person's name.  It's only respectful that we should try to say it properly.  Yes, it's been talked about before, but we all know how well the search function works!

I've been saying it wrong for years.  Now that I know the correct pronunciation, I am trying to use it, though my success rate isn't all that great yet.  I'll get there!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:30 PM
 Vail and Southwestern RR wrote:

I matters, and it is worth talking about.  After all, it's not just a company, it is a person's name.  It's only respectful that we should try to say it properly.  Yes, it's been talked about before, but we all know how well the search function works!

I've been saying it wrong for years.  Now that I know the correct pronunciation, I am trying to use it, though my success rate isn't all that great yet.  I'll get there!

The search function is helpful??? ;)

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Posted by 7j43k on Sunday, May 18, 2008 4:29 PM

I guess I was asleep in class when this came up before, so I'm glad it came up again.  It is indeed respectful to try to pronounce someone's name right, so I'll correct myself on this matter.

Thanks, folks,

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Sunday, May 18, 2008 5:00 PM
 tomikawaTT wrote:
 Flashwave wrote:

I've always hear it Kayto The K the same we say Kaydee

quote user="Packers#1

___Ditto. How I've heard it time and time again.

 

Proving only that Americans are ignorant of the Japanese language.

Gentle people, we are not debating opinions here, we are facing a fact.  The fact in question - the proper pronunciation of a Japanese name rendered in Romaji as Kato.

There is only one correct pronunciation, no matter how many times you've heard it mispronounced.  If you don't say Kah-to, you've proven my point.

It also proves that Americans always think they're right, even when they're provably wrong.

 

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Posted by selector on Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:10 PM

Actually, we're all like that, irrespective of our lineage or nationality.  It is called a "self-serving" bias.  Julius Caesar used different words, but the meaning is the same: "People gladly believe what they wish to."

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Posted by tgindy on Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:40 PM
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Posted by Don Gibson on Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:32 PM

They  pronounce it KAH-toe, no matter how you pronounce it.

The old GREEN HORNET series had a servant character "Cato"  WHICH was mimicked in the 'Pink Panther' Movie and Inspector Cluseau, using the hard 'A' , and seemingly has greatly influenced us.

We handle 'Wolkswagen' similarly.

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Posted by DavidGSmith on Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:07 PM

When I asked him Mr. Kato said catoe is the right way to pronouce it. I assume he would know.

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Posted by HarryHotspur on Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:43 PM
Well, all I know is Inspector Clouseau pronounced it Kay-toe, but then he was French so ...

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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Monday, May 19, 2008 12:02 AM
 Don Gibson wrote:

We handle 'Wolkswagen' similarly.

Folksvagen, more or less....

 

(where the "a" sounds like it does in Kato!)

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, May 19, 2008 7:59 AM

 HarryHotspur wrote:
Well, all I know is Inspector Clouseau pronounced it Kay-toe, but then he was French so ...

Well and Cato was a Roman, if you go back to the first person to make the name famous. No reason Cato and Kato should be pronounced the same.

Cato in the Green Hornet TV series was played by Bruce Lee by the way.

 

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Posted by Brian M on Monday, May 19, 2008 11:07 AM

Isn't there a song about this?

"You say it's Kay-to,

And I say it's Kah-to.

You say potay-to..."

Brian

 

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Posted by tatans on Monday, May 19, 2008 1:49 PM
Then there's the Canadian pronunciation eh?  You say Viet NOM we say Viet Nam, as in mam. But you have many regional dialects.
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Posted by shawnee on Monday, May 19, 2008 2:18 PM
Evidently Dan Quayle spells it Katoe, however.
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