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Vote your favorite--Sheet of Plywood Layout Design Contest

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Posted by Geared Steam on Friday, April 11, 2008 10:21 PM

Somebody roll up a newspaper and swat the old dog. Big Smile [:D]

 

The Kerry Railroad in Oregon

http://www.brian894x4.com/Kerryrailroadwriteup.html

Coos Bay Lumber Company in Oregon

http://www.brian894x4.com/GeorgiaPacificCoosBayRR.html

Westport in Oregon

http://www.brian894x4.com/Westporttunnel.html

The Portland & Southwestern Railroad

http://www.brian894x4.com/PortlandandSouthwesternRR.html

 

Many Logging railroads had "main lines" into the woods from the sawmill, where you could find tunnels, and some pretty beefy bridges ( like the pic below). Its the branches off of these mains, up different valleys and creeks that were temporary.

 

All information and pictures is from Brain McCamish's website, probably the best about NW railroading.

 http://www.brian894x4.com/AbandonedRRmainpage.html 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by shayfan84325 on Friday, April 11, 2008 12:32 PM
Thanks for digging up the pictures of tunnels on logging railroads.  Along the lines of a prototype for everything, I live where the UP branch ia actually a loop - kind of like a roundy round.  Our trains go both directions, clockwise and counter-clockwise.

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Posted by vsmith on Friday, April 11, 2008 11:10 AM

Uhhhhhh......its....a.....hobby? Whistling [:-^]

If thats not good enough:

In defense of crazed logging modelers everywhere...

"The Gilman tunnels were originally blasted out of rock for a narrow-gauge logging railroad"

http://www.newmexicophotos.com/compucards/tunnels-late-afternoon.htm

This tunnel was carved for a flume!

 

Kettle Valley RR trail. 18 trestles and 2 tunnels on this Canadian trail.

 

Even overseas, in Taiwan, this example

http://www.citycat.hdud.idv.tw/logging.htm

Theres a prototype for everything Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by exPalaceDog on Friday, April 11, 2008 9:51 AM

The Old Dog isn't ready to vote yet, but it must raise a flag about the Angry Beaver Logging layout.

First, the reason a real railway chooses narrow guage instead of standard guage is to reduce construction costs.

Second, logging railways were usually intended to be temporary, hence construction cost were keep to a minimum.

Given these facts, one must question whether a narrow guage logging railway would be likily to have tunnels on it's route. There probably is an example some where, but using tunnels would seem to the Old Mutt to be out of character with the theme of the layout.

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Posted by chadw on Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 AM

1. Western Maryland

2. Yorklyn

3. Bath Port

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Posted by AltoonaRailroader on Friday, April 11, 2008 7:32 AM

#1 HO Scale Industry branch.

#2 N Scale Old West

#3 HO Scale Lancaster Terminal

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Posted by Steve_F on Friday, April 11, 2008 3:26 AM

#1 Lancaster

#2 Yorklyn

#3 Industry

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Posted by steinjr on Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:31 PM
 yougottawanta wrote:

what is the standing of the candiates currently ?

 After the first 24 people have cast their votes at the end of day 2 of the voting period (which ends on Monday), the order of the candidates sorted by points received thus far is:

 74 pts: Angry Beaver
 42 pts: Western Maryland
 28 pts: Old West
 18 pts: Petaluma
 16 pts: Brooklyn
 15 pts: Yorklyn
 15 pts: Industry
 04 pts: Brandywine
 03 pts: Bath Port
 00 pts: Lancaster

 As you can see, the Beaver still holds a strong lead, 32 points ahead of no 2.

 Western Maryland is running 14 points  ahead of no 3, and Old West is 10-13 points ahead of a field consisting of Petaluma, Brooklyn, Yorklyn and Industry, while Brandywine, Bath Port and Lancaster is trailing a 11-15 points behind that again.

 These contests normally seem to draw about 40 votes, so much can still change - especially for the #2 and #3 position - a 15 point difference represents no more than three #1 favorite votes.

 Voting period ends Monday at 11:59 pm Eastern (5:59 am Tuesday over here in Europe).

 As the classical quote goes: "vote early, and vote often" Big Smile [:D]

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 Stein

 

 

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Posted by yougottawanta on Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:56 PM

what is the standing of the candiates currently ?

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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:25 PM

All of the layouts are good in their own ways and all have real potential; so this was by far the toughest to decide yet. So.....

#1 Petaluma, lots of action for a single sheet of plywood! Makes you consider buying a couple Atlas N gauge Shays!

#2 Old West, It reminds me of an N version of John Allen's original G&D.

#3 Brandywine Amusement Park, even though its primarily a roundyround, I think this would make a terrific diorama.

Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by steinjr on Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:41 AM
 yougottawanta wrote:

 Maybe the next round of entries you all could include an "honorable mention category" or something of that nature. Just a thought.

 Mmmm - thinking about it there is nothing in the voting requirements saying that you cannot give a honorable mention to other designs, as long as it is reasonably clear which three (or fewer) designs you are actually voting for.

  I'd like to give add some extra praise for a couple more shelf switching layouts in addition to the three I voted for earlier in the thread:

 Lancaster Terminal Railroad is a great switching layout that takes hardly any space at all in a room - this layout could very easily be shared with other uses of the room - like a guest bedroom or a family room. I like the way the runaround has been placed in the curve, the low industries along the front, and the way the industry sidings has been made fairly long.

 Yorklyn uses varying bench width to very good effect. It also shows an interesting use of an outside corner. By focusing on just a couple of large industries instead of trying to fit in a lot of small industries, it stays very true to the prototype.  

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Posted by yougottawanta on Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:39 AM

  

 

 Guess I am the resident Soup Nazi in this thread Big Smile <img src=" border="0" width="15" height="15" />

 No you are not a soup Nazi. Every there has to be rules , understood , or chaos ensues. Maybe the next round of entries you all could include an "honorable mention category" or something of that nature. Just a thought.

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Posted by wm3798 on Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:55 AM

I know for a fact that there are three cemeteries in East Baltimore that haven't voted yet...  Better start passing out the "walking around money"...

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:28 AM
 wm3798 wrote:

What's CBS News projecting?  Red states?  Blue states?

Lee 

Early polls show the snitty narrow beaver with a commanding lead. There are about 9 gents that should be writing their concession speeches.

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Posted by wm3798 on Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:22 AM

What's CBS News projecting?  Red states?  Blue states?

Lee 

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:20 AM
Coming around for a second day of voting. Only 5 more days left.

Chip

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:12 PM

This is my official ballot:

  1. Western Maryland Tidewater - appeals to the specialwork construction freak in me.  The short, steep portions of the loop are inconspicuous enough to get by.
  2. Angry Beaver Logging Company - If the second loco was a diesel 'critter' this one could pretend to be the Alishan Forestry Railway (Taiwan.)  30 tons is a BIG 762mm gauge Shay - the Alishan's were 24 tons and 18 tons.
  3. Brooklyn Terminal - the old home town, almost.

All of the designs had interesting points, so there were no shoo-ins.

Well done to all the contestants, and a big Bow [bow] to Spacemouse.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:50 PM
there all great layouts just guess i was getting to technical lol

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:48 PM

 rtraincollector wrote:
 Not trying to point out wrongs on one but not another ( as I haven't looked at all) but the rules state that scale must be clearly marked and I didn't see scale on layout #9 Yorklyn Delawared althoug it was in the n scale portion of the contest. I may have missed it but I didn't see it

Actually, that rule is for my benefit so that I can put it in with others the same scale when I'm programing the display. In fact, that one was misplaced and I had to do a do-over. Luckily I learned to run the web page past the contestants before the voting and I was able to catch it.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:43 PM

 Not trying to point out wrongs on one but not another ( as I haven't looked at all) but the rules state that scale must be clearly marked and I didn't see scale on layout #9 Yorklyn Delawared althoug it was in the n scale portion of the contest. I may have missed it but I didn't see it .

Edit: acually got into the ho section and there were 3 more including one saying a chop down version of one berggie did in n scale but didn't say wheather he was n or ho

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Posted by pcarrell on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:08 PM
 SpaceMouse wrote:
 Anonnymous wrote:

The cassette on the Angry Beaver its not part of the original plywood sheet, as I do not consider a removable cassette to be a permanent physical part of the layout benchwork as it can be taken off, The contest rules point out that the Plywood must be used for the permanent layout proper, most removable cassettes I have seen have been either fabricated out of metal or plastic and designed to be quickly attached or detatched to the layout. As designed the layout technicaly doenst need it and it could be eliminated, as the spur next to the engine house leading to the cassette could also act as the "fiddle yard" to add or remove cars or whole trains, operations on the layout would not be effective by the removal of the cassette. I just wanted an mental "off layout" option for this function.

Hope that clears it up.

Hey, I'm good with that!  I was just curious as so many have said they'd like to build it (shoot, I'm an N scaler and I wouldn't mind building it!).

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Posted by saronaterry on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:00 PM

Tough choices!

1. Western Maryland.

2. Angry Beaver.

3. Yorklyn.

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Posted by stebbycentral on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 6:06 PM

 1) Angry Beaver Logging Company -  Just because it's On30 and we rule!

 2) Brandywine Springs Amusement Park - I like layouts that are a departure from the ordinary.  And it also gives you a logical reason for the loop o' track design in a realistic setting.

 3) Brooklyn Terminal RR - I can see some real scenic possiblities in terms of the backdrop.

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Posted by MStLfan on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:31 PM

I am in n-scale mostly, so a bit biased.

1 WM

2 Angry Beaver

3 Old west

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Posted by Geared Steam on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:08 PM

I have a softness for logging and old west.

1. Angry Beaver - Awesome plan in O-Scale, and the name can't be beat. I saved this plan, I have been considering O-scale in the future. Great job.

2. Old West - Like others have mentioned, I don't model in N-Scale, but if I was going to, this is one of two plans I would consider.

3. Petaluma Lumber Company - Same as above, plan 2.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:06 PM
 Anonnymous wrote:

The cassette on the Angry Beaver its not part of the original plywood sheet, as I do not consider a removable cassette to be a permanent physical part of the layout benchwork as it can be taken off, The contest rules point out that the Plywood must be used for the permanent layout proper, most removable cassettes I have seen have been either fabricated out of metal or plastic and designed to be quickly attached or detatched to the layout. As designed the layout technicaly doenst need it and it could be eliminated, as the spur next to the engine house leading to the cassette could also act as the "fiddle yard" to add or remove cars or whole trains, operations on the layout would not be effective by the removal of the cassette. I just wanted an mental "off layout" option for this function.

Hope that clears it up.

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Posted by steinjr on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 3:27 PM
 yougottawanta wrote:

Man tough ! Okay .

1) Angry Beaver

2) Western Md

3) Old west

 Excellent - thank you!

 And sorry about being so - umm - something I am probably not allowed to write here.

 Guess I am the resident Soup Nazi in this thread Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by yougottawanta on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 3:16 PM

Man tough ! Okay .

1) Angry Beaver

2) Western Md

3) Old west

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Posted by steinjr on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 2:22 PM
 BRAKIE wrote:

Chip,Being a fan of ISLs its a tough call..

My choices is:

Yorklyn Delawared

and

Brooklyn Terminal Railroad

I am going to assume that you listed them in order - ie

#1: Yorklyn,
#2: Brooklyn,
#3: <none-yn>

Tell me if I have misunderstood your intension.

Smile,
Stein

 

 

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Posted by pcarrell on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 2:17 PM
 wm3798 wrote:

SO, Stein, old buddy... Since you're counting the votes,... what kind of booze do you like?Big Smile [:D]

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