*New Run of Walthers Budd Cars*

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

Walthers has recently posted on their site that they are going to do another run of their legendary Budd cars. They are set to be released on July 4, 2008. I currently have 5 of these cars from their previous run. You need to have 24" radius curves at the minimum regardless of what the instructions say. Otherwise these are great cars and the UP paint scheme looks great behind Athearn's two new steamers.  This run is only on certain models, probably the more popular ones. Does anyone have plans to buy these, if so I may be able to answer some questions.

[AntonioFP45]

I have 14 Walthers Budd cars in the SCL, ACL, and SAL roadnames.  I like them very much and am looking forward to seeing the new releases. 

[wgnrr]

Where is this located on their web site? I could find nothing on them...

Phil

[Hoople]

Ha, I can get my Budd 10-6 sleeper, Budd Dome Coach, PS Diner, and PS 64 seat coach to run around 22"s...

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

Go on to their web and type in the search box "Walthers Budd" and they should come up on the first page.

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

I'm sure your's they will run on a 22" but if you were an HO scale passenger, you would have a hard time jumping to the next car!

[Hoople]

I'm sure your's they will run on a 22" but if you were an HO scale passenger, you would have a hard time jumping to the next car!

Yeah, or drinking coffee at 40+ MPH...

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

I'm sure your's they will run on a 22" but if you were an HO scale passenger, you would have a hard time jumping to the next car!

Yeah, or drinking coffee at 40+ MPH...

I hope there are seat belts!

[AntonioFP45]

I was hoping that undecorated streamliners would be available as well (makes it easier for metalizing )  Didn't see any in the offerings.

[wgnrr]

Please post the link to the search page that shows these new Budd cars. The only ones that are new are the 4 GN and Amtrak domes that are being produced off of Empire Builder models...

PHil

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

Please post the link to the search page that shows these new Budd cars. The only ones that are new are the 4 GN and Amtrak domes that are being produced off of Empire Builder models...

PHil

I'm still new and don't know how to post links yet. Sorry!

[AntonioFP45]

Went back and did some checking. 

 Yes, they're offering undecorated cars!  Now, I'm happy!   Here's a link to click: 

 http://walthers.com/exec/search?quick=walthers+budd

[wgnrr]

Went back and did some checking. 

 Yes, they're offering undecorated cars!  Now, I'm happy!   Here's a link to click: 

 http://walthers.com/exec/search?quick=walthers+budd

There are still no new cars listed there...

Phil

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

Went back and did some checking. 

 Yes, they're offering undecorated cars!  Now, I'm happy!   Here's a link to click: 

 http://walthers.com/exec/search?quick=walthers+budd

There are still no new cars listed there...

Phil

I just went to that link and they were right there on the first page!

[wgnrr]

There is nothing new about ANY of those cars. They are old run products, and have since been either retired, sold out, or in limited stock. Some are still on backorder.

Phil

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

There is nothing new about ANY of those cars. They are old run products, and have since been either retired, sold out, or in limited stock. Some are still on backorder.

Phil

I see what you are saying. I didn't mean new cars. I said that Walthers was doing ANOTHER run of their legendary budd cars. They are just releasing them a second time hence the reason I already have some as the origanal post states. Sorry for the mis-understanding. 

[wgnrr]

There is nothing new about ANY of those cars. They are old run products, and have since been either retired, sold out, or in limited stock. Some are still on backorder.

Phil

I see what you are saying. I didn't mean new cars. I said that Walthers was doing ANOTHER run of their legendary budd cars. They are just releasing them a second time hence the reason I already have some as the origanal post states. Sorry for the mis-understanding. 

OHHHH....I understand now...

Thanks for straightening this out.

Phil

[wgnrr]

There is nothing new about ANY of those cars. They are old run products, and have since been either retired, sold out, or in limited stock. Some are still on backorder.

Phil

I see what you are saying. I didn't mean new cars. I said that Walthers was doing ANOTHER run of their legendary budd cars. They are just releasing them a second time hence the reason I already have some as the origanal post states. Sorry for the mis-understanding. 

OHHHH....I understand now...

Thanks for straightening this out.

Phil

[Anonymous]

I would go for UP Budd 85' streamliner cars to go with a set of Proto UP EMD E7s that I have. I bought a Rapido UP cafe car at my LHS for less than $15 but the two colors are miles apart. I like the Rapido cars for my Intermountain NP F units in the Loewy paint scheme where the match it well, better than with Walthers NP cars. Here the Walthers should match Proto, at least I hope so since Walthers owns Proto!

I would not balk at a minimum 24" radius on any 85' passenger cars. If a car can negociate less, the cars must be too far apart or the couplers and trucks must swing so wide that the car would likely to appear to be too high off the rails. I can't see any 85' car looking good on less than about a 30" radius, and even that looks tight. 

[Union Pacific Cascade Division Model RR]

I would go for UP Budd 85' streamliner cars to go with a set of Proto UP EMD E7s that I have. I bought a Rapido UP cafe car at my LHS for less than $15 but the two colors are miles apart. I like the Rapido cars for my Intermountain NP F units in the Loewy paint scheme where the match it well, better than with Walthers NP cars. Here the Walthers should match Proto, at least I hope so since Walthers owns Proto!

I would not balk at a minimum 24" radius on any 85' passenger cars. If a car can negociate less, the cars must be too far apart or the couplers and trucks must swing so wide that the car would likely to appear to be too high off the rails. I can't see any 85' car looking good on less than about a 30" radius, and even that looks tight. 

I've found that the color will vary a slight bit even between the cars themselves. Mine are UP and I bought the cars over the period of a year. A couple have different colors which may be due just to fading. I agree that the larger the radius the better they look. My last layout had 22" radius's. The cars looked terrible. I am building a new layout with minimum 36" radius's.

[wgnrr]

I would go for UP Budd 85' streamliner cars to go with a set of Proto UP EMD E7s that I have. I bought a Rapido UP cafe car at my LHS for less than $15 but the two colors are miles apart. I like the Rapido cars for my Intermountain NP F units in the Loewy paint scheme where the match it well, better than with Walthers NP cars. Here the Walthers should match Proto, at least I hope so since Walthers owns Proto!

I would not balk at a minimum 24" radius on any 85' passenger cars. If a car can negociate less, the cars must be too far apart or the couplers and trucks must swing so wide that the car would likely to appear to be too high off the rails. I can't see any 85' car looking good on less than about a 30" radius, and even that looks tight. 

I didn't feel comfortable running my Walthers cars on a 32'' radius. They still looked pretty tight.

Phil

[Master of Big Sky Blue]

So if Walthers is doing a new batch of Budd Cars. Does that make them proud to be your

 

James

[Texas Zepher]

I would be happy if they just finished the Hiawatha set before they start "new" anything.  This is September so the last two cars of the Hiawatha are what? four and three months late respectively.