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40th Street Yards of the Chicago and North Western Railroad

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40th Street Yards of the Chicago and North Western Railroad
Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 6:36 AM
Where exactly was the 40th Street yard located in Chicago?  Was it south or west of the old CNW downtown station?

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Posted by easyaces on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 8:40 AM
If I remember correctly they were south and just a bit west of downtown.
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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 8:52 PM
THe 40th st yard sounds like something adjacent to the old Stock Yards. If I remember correctly, almost every road had some kind of connection to them. There may have been plenty of Manufacturing Districts built nearby. The 40th st name puts the yard nearly 40 blocks south of Madison Avenue, the center or zero line. Most streets north of there have names, not numbers.
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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, September 6, 2007 6:13 AM
The reason that I ask is because I live in the Chicago area but cannot pinpoint the location of the old 40th street yard used by the C&NW.  The July 2003 issue of Trains magazine has a map of Chicago rail lines in the 1950s that references a 40th Street yard west of the downtown area but east of the Proviso yard which the C&NW used as well.  Can anyone pinpoint the 40th street yard used by the C&NW?

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:27 AM

My increasingly unreliable memory suggests that this yard was sometimes called the Potato Yard and you might want to search for information about it using that term.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:00 PM
 richhotrain wrote:
Where exactly was the 40th Street yard located in Chicago?  Was it south or west of the old CNW downtown station?


I am past Chicago . . . . . . . . . . and that's what I usually do when I get in the vicinity, I drive past Chicago! That is unfortunate because I know that Chicago has immense railfan capacity. Maybe one of these days I will be able to stop; after the 1976 fiasco I don't think that the NMRA will ever go back there for an annual convention but they are going to Milwaukee in 1910 and I think that I will take a few days then and look around. 

Yards occupy immensely valuable real estate and year after year they get more and more valuable; in many cases railroads discovered that their yards were sitting on property worth considerably more as industrial property than as railroad property. I'll bet you dollars-to-donuts that if you look in the vicinity of the Northwestern and 40th Street you will find an industrial complex and that, my friend, is the 40th Street yard.

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Posted by chutton01 on Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:56 PM

Well, this recent (2007? pdf) rail map of the Chicagoland, courtesy of the Indiana Railroad, indicates the C&NW 40th St yard is alive (now under UP, of course), seeming directly west of the loop (and on the line heading directly west from the lakefront), and (as you stated), east of Proviso yard - indeed, very roughly in the middle of the two.
I recommend skipping to google earth and try to get a fix on the current area using the rail map pdf as a guide.

Edit: Well, near as I can figure, this is the 40th St. yard in Chicago:
Google Satellite.
I won't freak out if I need to be corrected.

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Posted by chutton01 on Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:01 PM
Oops, I guess editing a post doesn't bump anything...Oh well.
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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, September 6, 2007 11:09 PM

Thanks, everyone. 

Chutton01, thanks for the satellite link.

The 40th Street yard is west of downtown at Pulaski Road which is 4000 West.  That's probably why the reference to 40th Street, although in Chicago 40th Street would normally be a reference to 4000 South.

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Posted by CHARLES E KINZER on Sunday, August 23, 2015 8:59 PM

What is now Pulaski Road was indeed 40th Street, but the north/south 40th street, as can be seen on old enough Chicago maps.  The various numbered north/south streets eventually got names.  It is understandable how this could be confused with the numbered east/west streets many of which still exist as only numbers today.  Well, it confused people in the past, too, according to this from http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/1427.html (it is also an example that once something is named on a railroad, that name stays etched in stone forever.): 

"Fight for 40th Street
 

In 1913, as part of an effort to eliminate duplicate street names, the city council named the West Side 40th Street after Peter Crawford, an early Cicero Township landowner. In 1933, Mayor Edward Kelly sought to consolidate his ties to Polish voters by renaming Crawford Avenue to honor Count Casimir Pulaski, a Polish hero of the American Revolutionary War. Business owners at the intersection of Crawford and Madison, one of the city's major shopping districts, protested. Pulaski's supporters countered that such objections masked anti-Polish prejudice. Crawford's proponents obtained a temporary injunction against the change, but in April 1935, the Illinois Supreme Court upheld the city council's right to select street names.

Crawford's backers did not give up. Angry residents tore down “Pulaski Road” signs, and the Postal Service continued to deliver mail addressed to Crawford Avenue. In 1937, Illinois passed a law that the city council must change a street name on the request of owners of 60 percent of its frontage. So in 1938 some property owners submitted petitions for the restoration of the name Crawford Avenue to Pulaski Road, while others asked that Haussen Court, which was less than two blocks long, be renamed for Crawford. Neither petition had enough signatures to require city action.  Here is the story from http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/1427.html : 

"In 1949, owners of businesses along Pulaski Road filed a final round of petitions for Crawford. Although these signatures were valid, the city council refused to act. Property owners sued city officials for dereliction of duty. The second Crawford Avenue lawsuit culminated in 1952, when the Illinois Supreme Court ruled in favor of the name Pulaski.

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