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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:16 PM

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Well, it is now time to paint and lay down the baseic ground cover on my diorama. After that, I'll have to wait and get a lift to Target to get some white glue this weekend.

MY GOSH, I ACTUALLY DID WHAT I SAID!!! Yeah, finally got off my butt, painted the dern thing, and got turf down. Now to get some white glue so I can secure the turf down. And i actually did more, got my music crankin on my MP3 player and boom, got a small engine terminal and tiny yard down, lol. Probably won't scenic them though. Also found my woodland scenics road ruler, so now I can get the country road I wanted to add, lol.

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:17 PM

Today my Algoma Central GP7 arrived. She'll be getting patched, soon, when I get the time. She is a beauty. Compared to my SD45s the GP7 is mighty small!

 I also picked up a WC boxcar, but that's not that important!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:19 PM

That's a mighty purty Geep you got there, love that paint scheme Tongue

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Posted by WCfan on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:23 PM

The Algoma Central Scheme is one of my favorites...as long as it gets kept up! The SD40 and SD40-2s where starting to get kind of ratty by the 90s, but the Two ARC GP40s looked LOVELY!

Do you have any pictures of your work Sawyer?

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:27 PM
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Do you have any pictures of your work Sawyer?

Nope, camera batteries are starting to die, and I'm too lazy too go take them anyways. Would have to get my desk lamp in there, because the lighting is terrible. Might have some soon, I'm gonna bike up to Food Lion and get some isopropyl alchol and white glue Friday (basketball practice tommorow, and it's about a mile each way or so to the store).

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Posted by Wikious on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:42 PM

 Well, if Sawyer won't post pictures, I will!

Just a rough mock-up of the strip mall I want to build. I don't think I'll start on it just yet (no place to put it and I have a billion other things going on at the moment), but I like how it looks.


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Posted by Railfan Alex on Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:30 PM

Hey guys.

Sorry I got confused by my own comment...Dunce

Anyways, I have a few projects too.

I have 20 Autoracks and Autoparts Boxcars that I need to make boxes for. I just picked up half a dozen Banker's Boxes, and they'll do the trick, along with some foam.

Also, I've been lighting the ditch lights on my St.L&H GP9, and let me tell you, it's a pain in the ***! I've only drilled the frame, and started drilling the TINY deck mounted ditch light...

I used a Miniatures by Eric part: http://www.miniaturesbyeric.com/itm00117.htm

I'm also using tiny Jewels from whichever company, I forget right now.

So that's all for now.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:33 PM
I used those MBE ditches on Tyler's loco. I have some "Lightable" MBE CN ditchlights that I plan on using on the Lamoille Valley chops They received round ditch lights very similar to the CN style ones. I'm probably going to use Athearn light bulbs in each.., and some of Micro Scales liquid window stuff.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:21 PM

Hey everyone. Im Joe. I have a 4X8 in HO and i model NS and NJ Transit.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:34 PM

ns3010

Hey everyone. Im Joe. I have a 4X8 in HO and i model NS and NJ Transit.

Welcome to TMRP Joe, have any pics of your layout?

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:37 PM

Welcome Joe! Sign - Welcome
Do you model a certain area, or do you just model rosters (like me)?

Formanek: I would seriously get some mini bulbs from Miniatronics, I've had problems with, and many others have found that the Athearn mini bulbs on the Genesis units and the replacements burn VERY quickly. I don't have any problems with the Miniatronics mini bulbs.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:42 PM

Ah, I'm so happy right now. Kato is going to make an SD70ACe in N scale! My RR will need three.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:48 PM

My layout is still a work in progress (for way too long). I dont have any pics, but i can get some. I model the stuff that runs around me, so its a mix of stuff. Ive never given scratchbuilding a try, but im considering trying some locomotives and cars (most NJT stuff isnt modeled in HOBanged Head- ALP 44s are out of production,  and there are no models of  ALP 46s or any of the coaches although walthers made Horizin cars which are the same as the Comet IIs, a GP 40PH-2 or GP40FH would require some kitbashing.) So far i have a NJT F40PH and a NS GP50, but im going to a train show in afew weeks so im hoping i can get another locomotive or car or whatever

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:51 PM

railroadyoshi

 Tyler, I don't even see a reason to involve QNE on your railroad. QNE does not function on trackage rights and changing histories for a single freelance railroad to fit into other's schemes just doesn't make sense. QNE's entire purpose is to shorten the route to Southeastern New England from Canada connecting the former CV directly to the P&W, making the Bellows Falls to New London route inherently obsolete for through traffic. Keep your railroad to NECR connections and leave QNE be.

 

True, I probably shouldn't mess with other people's freelanced histories either... Whistling

 

Jordan, that's a nice looking Geep! Is that a P2K?

Welcome to Joe as well!Sign - Welcome Always nice to have another member!

Sawyer, are you planning on having the SD70ACe's be painted for NS (does NS even have any?) or your freelanced road?

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Posted by nap on Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:04 PM

does anyone know the best way to paint tunnels? the paint will not stick to the inside walls of it.Sigh im using styrefoam.

some times i dont know what im doing, like now.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:56 PM

 You might try using regular latex house paint, like the kind you'd paint your home walls with. That sticks to styrafoam great.

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:04 PM

Tyler, thanks. Yes it is a new run P2K GP7, so hopefully I don't need to worry about cracked gears! Also, NS does have SD70ACes, but they are the DC version, so they are called SD70M-2s.

Welcome Joe to TMRP! Take a look around, post pictures of your work. Pictures are always welcomed!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:21 PM

TrainManTy

Sawyer, are you planning on having the SD70ACe's be painted for NS (does NS even have any?) or your freelanced road?

The AAT. I've been reading in Trains magazine about all the other shortlines getting new power, so here's my story:

The U23Bs have been serving well, but with the EPA's new emmision requirments (exempt for shortlines though, I tihnk, IDK), and the rise in gas prices (a few months ago, ok, not now, where you can find it under $2), the AAT realized their U23Bs weren't making as much money. So they went to SC, GA, and the EPA, and got money from each to purchase new, EPA tier-2 requirment meeting locos. And looking around, they decided on the SD70ACe. So they bought three new ones, numbered 1,2, and 3, m.u.ed a GP9 to each, moved the U23Bs to smaller jobs, moved the GP9s to smaller jobs, and so on. The only locos that kept their jobs were the two high-hood GP38-2s for extras and the GP15-1 as the plant switcher for Savannah Soda Co. They recieved them just before gas prices plummeted, but they are helping so much, they'll have hauled enough to pay themselves off in no time.

There are 12 trains along our line daily, and 6 at night. So, we'll call the sets #1, #2, & #3. The trains are three soda co. frieghts, from Augusta-Aiken, then back, three times in the day. That's for set #3. #2 and #3 both haul opposing road freights 3 times daily and 3 times nightly. The GP9s are on there for 2 reasons. #1, to provide a cab looking forward so the SD70ACes don't have to be turned, and #2, to provide an extra boost at the beginning to get the train moving quicker.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:31 PM

 That's what I thought, Jordan. NS is wierd about the DC traction, high hoods, and 4000 HP...Whistling

Sawyer, That's an interesting proposal to MU the GP9s to SD70ACe's. The only thing I would be worried about is that AC and DC locos don't work so well together, as they are very different traction methods and they come up to speed differently.  I read about that in an article on the Yukon and White Pass, except they were reffering to the differance between a Bombodier DL 535 and an Alco RSD39/GE Class 90.

This might not make a difference with mainline locos though, as they're built to MU with each other and have matched speeds...

All this is the prototype though, the models will be fine...

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:37 PM

TrainManTy

Sawyer, That's an interesting proposal to MU the GP9s to SD70ACe's. The only thing I would be worried about is that AC and DC locos don't work so well together, as they are very different traction methods and they come up to speed differently.  I read about that in an article on the Yukon and White Pass, except they were reffering to the differance between a Bombodier DL 535 and an Alco RSD39/GE Class 90.

This might not make a difference with mainline locos though, as they're built to MU with each other and have matched speeds...

All this is the prototype though, the models will be fine...

Oh well, lol, these GP9s are due for rebuilds anyways, they still have their gear from the 1950s (for the "prototype"). So, the three for mainline work were rebuilt w/ lower horsepower engines and AC traction systems, but kept externally the same, to preserve history.

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:45 PM

Tyler, but you need to admit, NS/SOU/NW was a pretty cool RR. I mean, a SD45 running long hood forward, now that's pretty cool!

Sawyer, the only thing I'd be concerned about is the track around that area, and the versatility of the locomotives. The WSOR had that problem, they got 3 F45s, but the Track was too light for them. Also, remember that SD70ACes load SUPER slow at loading compared to older power, they also aren't the best for switching, so they'd be basically for road freights. That is also what happened to the WSOR F45s too, they couldn't do much. But hey, it's possible. All the regionals are getting new power, FEC, MRL, IAIS, ect. So why not yours. I think an SD70ACe and a GP9 would look cool together, I know on the WSOR F45s and GP9s looked pretty cool together.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:45 PM

WCfan
Also, NS does have SD70ACes, but they are the DC version, so they are called SD70M-2s.

 

NS just purchased some new SD70ACes- 1st new AC traction pruchased by NS.

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:54 PM

ns3010

WCfan
Also, NS does have SD70ACes, but they are the DC version, so they are called SD70M-2s.

 

NS just purchased some new SD70ACes- 1st new AC traction pruchased by NS.

Yea, I was kinda surprised when NS did that.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:07 PM
Indiana Railroads new MAC's are fweaking HOT!

 

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Posted by Wikious on Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:53 PM

 

WCfan

Tyler, but you need to admit, NS/SOU/NW was a pretty cool RR. I mean, a SD45 running long hood forward, now that's pretty cool!

Sawyer, the only thing I'd be concerned about is the track around that area, and the versatility of the locomotives. The WSOR had that problem, they got 3 F45s, but the Track was too light for them. Also, remember that SD70ACes load SUPER slow compared to older power, they also aren't the best for switching, so they'd be basically for road freights. That is also what happened to the WSOR F45s too, they couldn't do much. But hey, it's possible. All the regionals are getting new power, FEC, MRL, IAIS, ect. So why not yours. I think an SD70ACe and a GP9 would look cool together, I know on the WSOR F45s and GP9s looked pretty cool together.

You forgot the most important part- the WSOR F45's were butt ugly! Tongue

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2008 8:51 AM

WCfan

Tyler, but you need to admit, NS/SOU/NW was a pretty cool RR. I mean, a SD45 running long hood forward, now that's pretty cool!

 

Yeah, and the GE's with the huge radiators were even better!Cool

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, November 14, 2008 2:32 PM

ns3010
NS just purchased some new SD70ACes- 1st new AC traction pruchased by NS.

 

They were actually ES44ACs- my bad.

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Posted by WCfan on Friday, November 14, 2008 4:00 PM

I didn't mind the WSOR F45s; at least they had operating F45s. I don't think any RR has any F45s operating anymore. The MRL put there's in storage (Ironically those where on the WSOR!), and I thing the NYSW has there's in storage too.

Tyler, C30-7s...Big Smile

Joe, I didn't know what locomotive it was, but I know NS bought some AC locomotives. CN is also the other RR that likes to buy DC power.

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Posted by ns3010 on Friday, November 14, 2008 4:22 PM

WCfan

Joe, I didn't know what locomotive it was, but I know NS bought some AC locomotives. CN is also the other RR that likes to buy DC power.

I checked. They are GEs and they are rated at 4400hp

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, November 14, 2008 4:31 PM
WCfan

Sawyer, the only thing I'd be concerned about is the track around that area, and the versatility of the locomotives. The WSOR had that problem, they got 3 F45s, but the Track was too light for them. Also, remember that SD70ACes load SUPER slow at loading compared to older power, they also aren't the best for switching, so they'd be basically for road freights. That is also what happened to the WSOR F45s too, they couldn't do much. But hey, it's possible. All the regionals are getting new power, FEC, MRL, IAIS, ect. So why not yours. I think an SD70ACe and a GP9 would look cool together, I know on the WSOR F45s and GP9s looked pretty cool together.

Well, it's actually 20 miles between Aiken and augusta in real life too, so lol, that's convienent. Really, since nothing had been done to the rails either, I'll say the kline upgraded mainline power to. And these units are bought for the one purpose of road frieghts, that's all they'll ever be asked to do, period. The U23Bs and GP35s will handle switching, and GP9s will be yard switchers. Actually, the SD70ACes will be pulling the trains themselves, but will be rigged w/ RC devices and have a caboose behind, so when the cab is facing the cars, the crew can still be up front in the caboose, running the train at 30 MPH, lol. The SD70ACes will each have their own set train, just like in the old days, the U23Bs will have their own jobs, then the GP35s, then what GP9s weren't traded in or sold will have been 710ECO repowered internally. Great, now I have to COMPLETELY re-write the history from scratch.

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