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What did you do with your Dream-Plan-Build DVD?

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Posted by douginut on Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:35 PM
What Dream, Plan Build DVD, I didnt get one.

(feeling left out)

Doug, in Utah
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Posted by twhite on Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:22 PM
I liked it, though I was a little surprised at the marketing ploy--I have this thing about unsolicited material from ANYONE. At any rate, I'm keeping it, but at $25 a pop for future DVD's, I'm going to be very selective about the ones that I decide on. But I think the DVD's very well done, and there were certainly several segments on scenery that I know I'll benefit from.
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Posted by Rotorranch on Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:39 PM
If any of y'all don't want you FREE, UNSOLICETED DVD, send it on to another modeler!

I, for one, would like to see it. I don't subscribe to MR, but buy issues that interest me.

Rotor

 Jake: How often does the train go by? Elwood: So often you won't even notice ...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 14, 2005 2:23 AM
QUOTE: it's going to fade into obscurity right along with slot car racing.


Joe, Slot cars are alive and well and now in several scales. There are several magazines ,1/2 dozen forums and a ton of very well done Slot layouts out there.The Ebay market is rampant with not only the old, but the new and unique as well as custom products.
Slots are far from being gone!!!
Like you, my interest in trains made me blink. I was amazed at what was out there and improvements made since the 70's.
You wont believe what Parma's done with slot controllers :)
The hobby has some organization to it also and even includes sanctioned Slot drag strips.
Far from Dead Joe.......I hope one day you re-explore the world as I did. Its a nice break from trains on rare occassion for me.
http://www.slotcarplace.com/
Thats a good place to start if your interested Joe.
Sometimes we run em slow(trains) then there are times for speed and Slots with Magnatraction Fly!!!!! [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 14, 2005 6:32 PM
I liked the dvd. Ive been modeling for a few years but their are some things I still can learn. I'm not interested in paying 25 dollars per dvd though, on my buget that's a little steep. I would be willing to pay 20 although that would cut into my modeling budget.
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Posted by knewsom on Friday, October 14, 2005 6:35 PM
Where does it say that future DVD's are $25? I could not find anything that told me the price of future DVD's.
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Posted by jfugate on Friday, October 14, 2005 10:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Tileguy
Joe, Slot cars are alive and well and now in several scales. There are several magazines ,1/2 dozen forums and a ton of very well done Slot layouts out there.The Ebay market is rampant with not only the old, but the new and unique as well as custom products.
Slots are far from being gone!!!


So slots have not died completely ... but it is a more obscure hobby than it was during it's hey-day in the 1960s.

One advantage of our internet age is it's literally now possible to hook up with people anywhere in the *world* that share your interest. The internet has probably given the slot car hobby a real shot in the arm, sounds like.

If the internet and modern media like the DVD are exploited to their fullest, then I expect that to likewise give a real shot in the arm to the flagging model railroad hobby.

The Dream-Plan-Build DVD from Kalmbach is a step in the right direction, so I applaud it. Anything to get more video media out there covering hobby subjects is the right thing to be doing, if you ask me.

Joe Fugate Modeling the 1980s SP Siskiyou Line in southern Oregon

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Posted by trainchris on Friday, October 14, 2005 11:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by knewsom

Where does it say that future DVD's are $25? I could not find anything that told me the price of future DVD's.


I liked the DVD so I called the 800 # on the flyer that came with it to find out how much the next DVD would be. They told me also $25 big bucks. I like the DVD's and it was nice to see the hands on things But I still do not have a layout started and I need the money for that right now. If the price went down some I think I would get more.
For the people here that did not get this heres the # call it and maybe you can get a copy for your self. Customer Service 800-339-0964 Hours Mon.- Fri, 7:30 am - 5:30 pm CST I hope this helps and was OK for me to post the info?
Chris. PRR
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Posted by aussiesteve on Saturday, October 15, 2005 4:02 AM
They are not sending them outside the US[V][:(][banghead][censored][banghead][tdn]
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Posted by wcb4soorr on Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:17 AM
We receive a stack of unsolicited mail 1" to 2" thick each day. That doesn't include the unwanted mail (bills!!). My wife has even bought a paper shreader she placed next to the mail/bills sorting table. She shreads all the credit card offers, mortgage offers, or anything that may have our private info in it that she doesn't want in the trash. When I received the DVD in the mail, and realized that it wasn't a mistake but a deliberate marketing ploy, steam came from my ears! I opened the box, found the return address label, checked the box saying I didn't want and wrote in big letters "DO NOT SEND ME UNSOLICITED ITEMS AGAIN!" It was back in the mailbox ten minutes after I found it. After reading the above responses I think I made a mistake. I should have just thrown it out. By returning it, I just gave them a chance to send to it to someone else who didn"t want unsolicited junk mail. The next time they send me unwanted junk mail, I will return it but with a letter cancelling my MR subscription.
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Posted by MJ4562 on Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:25 PM
I think they tried to cram too much onto one DVD and ended up not covering anything in adequate detail. When I read the list of topics covered I thought it was for the entire DVD series not the first disc. The sample DVD was like the workshop/information desk column from MR. I'd be more interested in the series if it was like a GMR/MRP on DVD--meaning more in-depth coverage. As an aside those locomotive graphics/sounds between articles are really annoying.

As a person that always reports errors made by cashiers/organizations (in my favor), I feel no obligation and no guilt for accepting the DVD and not sending the $9.00. No one ever has an obligation to pay for or return something mailed to them unsolicited. They know this full well. The DVD is their compensation to me for taking the time to listen to their sales pitch.

I also find it rather amusing that they ask you to mail it back if you dont want it. I'm sure it costs them more for the postage and handling than the <10 cents the DVD cost.
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Posted by jfugate on Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:11 PM
Boy, I am amazed at how nasty negative some of you are at this DVD effort by Kalmbach.

My friends send me mail unsolicited. I consider the folks at Model Railroader to be my friends, so if they send me something unsolicited, then I'll take a look at it. Sheesh.

And as to level of detail, video is always a balancing act. You can only cram a max of about 120 minutes of material onto a DVD, depending on the rendering quality level you opt for. If you opt for a higher quality image, then you'll only be able to get 60-90 minutes.

If you go for more detail, then you won't have as much variety, and we'd be seeing posts that people got bored and there wasn't enough variety.

Whoever said it was right ... "you can't please all the people all the time".

Joe Fugate Modeling the 1980s SP Siskiyou Line in southern Oregon

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