Couple new ones form me.
CSX boxcar:
And a caboose. I patched over its NW lettering w/ Micorsclae red decal film, then lettered it w/ Microscale Gothick Block White lattering. You can barely see the number though, which is perfect. Here's a before (I will weather that hopper soon):
After. One side was messed up after the first coat of semi-gloss, so the good side will always be facing out towards the viewer when it's in use on my layout:
good side:
Bad side (it doesn't look AS bad in person):
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Building a protolanced industrial park layout
Thats the spirit! Do what ever you feel like. If you like it thats what matters. No need to listen to a self proclaimed 'god' who poo-poos others with no real reasoning and has too much viberant red in his rust.
jeffrey-wimberly Sir Madog My first attempt at weathering a caboose ended up in a total loss of the car - This is my second attempt - not yet completely finished, but, IMHO, already presentable: That looks pretty good to me. I'm not a master at weathering and don't claim to be. I just do what looks good to me. I'm not out to impress the masters and the self-appointed 'experts'. Here's the RBOX I did using just a few very simple techniques.
Sir Madog My first attempt at weathering a caboose ended up in a total loss of the car - This is my second attempt - not yet completely finished, but, IMHO, already presentable:
My first attempt at weathering a caboose ended up in a total loss of the car -
This is my second attempt - not yet completely finished, but, IMHO, already presentable:
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Thanks Aggro. I have nothing but respect for your fine work and try to learn from it as much as I can. Keep it up.
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Aggro:
Your weathering still amazes me--to me, it looks EXACTLY as it's supposed to.
Okay, at the risk of being asked to leave the Forum permanently, here's my fleet of Yellowstones--plus one of my M-78 4-8-2's--painted, lightly weathered and decalled. The one pulling the reefer train is 'fresh from the shop'. The Yuba River Sub is a 'good housekeeper', but I still like a little grime and grit.
Tom
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AggroJonesThats the spirit! Do what ever you feel like. If you like it thats what matters. No need to listen to a self proclaimed 'god' who poo-poos others with no real reasoning and has too much viberant red in his rust.
Just what shade of red is, "viberant"?
If that's what the gods use, I gotta get me some.
i think someone else called me that but whatever... better than being a self proclaimed "misunderstood genius" hey there, delbert... or is it dilbert? and there's always a reason...
if you have something to say you can PM me... rather than talking to someone else that is just trying to show off his weathering... let's be big boys now...
later
jeremy
I wouldn't expect more from you jeremy. Real names have what to do with weathering? So I know Tims, Davids, and Eds...so? Aggro is a college nickname that has nothing to do with you.
To no ones suprise you're just showing how low you are.
Why PM? You sit there insulting me out in the open. I can 'critique' too.
Well, after watching all the back and forth in the last day or two I think there a few things worth noting.
First off, I hope Neutrino, Aggro and Robby would all agree that best place to start any weathering project is not at the workbench, but instead is in front of your computer searching the many websites of RR photos for pictures of the car you plan on weathering. If you're fortunate you'll find the exact car number of the project car. At the very least find pictures of similar cars - the same type and paint job of the project car. Use these pictures to help guide you as you work on your weathering project. You may not choose to match the weathering in the picture gash for gash, but you'll end up with something that looks better than just sitting down at the workbench and going at it blindly.
The other thing that is obvious is that this is an area of the hobby that people want to know more about and to learn. IMO, the best way to learn and to improve one's skills is to share with others what you've done and to receive fair and honest feedback about what is good and bad about it. Giving "Attaboys" and "Excellent Work" to everything that is posted does no one any good. Giving false compliments to the poster of a project doesn't help them improve their skills. It actually works to make the person complacent.
This thread has the potential to be a place for people to learn methods, techniques, materials and processes that will produce some of the fine weathered cars being shown in this thread. But for that to be the case people posting pictures should be willing to accept the feedback provided. People reading the thread should feel free to provide comments about what is posted - what they like or don't like; what looks good or bad where improvement is needed or not needed.
Since Mr. Wimberly has said that he "don't give a darn" about what people say about his RBOX car, we'll use it as an example.
jeffrey-wimberlyThat looks pretty good to me. I'm not a master at weathering and don't claim to be. I just do what looks good to me. I'm not out to impress the masters and the self-appointed 'experts'. Here's the RBOX I did using just a few very simple techniques.
Looking at this car there is so much with it that is not right. For this forum and this thread to really be a place where people can learn something these pics could serve as an example where things could be done differently and achieve more realistic results. Undoubtedly there will be those that feel that anybody that posts a pic deserve an "attaboy" no matter how good or bad the weathering is. But for this thread to be more than just an "attaboy" parade people need to accept feedback and criticism and need to be free to provide fair, considerate and hopefully constructive criticism.
Well, off the soapbox now and if the sun cooperates maybe I'll have a chance to take some pictures outside and post them here this weekend.
Last time I checked the Post was SHOW US YOUR WEATHERED MODELS not WEATHERED MODELS Critique or summat.
Jeremy sounds like a fellow who is more interested in marking territory as THE ALL KNOWING ONE. Sir, can you please back off and let people do what this post intended? You want to critique set up another thread. Sheesh.
Another thing to consider--if critiquing a work one had better know what the person has done right as well as wrong. Tell the person what they are doing right--so that they then know where their strengths are and how they can IMPROVE what is already there. All that there appears to be right now is kvetching and whining about how certain people promote "Atta boy--isms"
Let's try to imagine the possibility of not falling into being boors-----
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I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...
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Expand picture and look closely to see weathered model inside of red circle...
San Dimas Southern slideshow
Margaritaman Expand picture and look closely to see weathered model inside of red circle...
Margaritaman:
I think the refrigerator car at the loading dock of a toilet company somehow sums it all up, don't you? CLEVER!
Excellent texture on the structure! Is it scratchbuilt?
AggroJonesI wouldn't expect more from you jeremy. Real names have what to do with weathering? So I know Tims, Davids, and Eds...so? Aggro is a college nickname that has nothing to do with you. To no ones suprise you're just showing how low you are. Why PM? You sit there insulting me out in the open. I can 'critique' too.
then you had to show your obvious displeasure at my comment... you opened the door... my response was my opinion of your work... period... is that insulting to you? is no one allowed to have and express an opinion in here? am i supposed to think you are the greatest simply because you have some talent?... i said that you do the same techniques in the same order with much the same outcome time after time... am i wrong aggro? is that nothing that i haven't said to you before? is that nothing that no one else has ever said to you before? i also said that what you did, you did well... you act as if i said something horrible, to me i am simply stating my opinion... why does that hurt your feelings?
how low i am? why? because i actually respond to you in kind when you have posted a jab at me... i'm not talking junk about you to other forum members am i? i am not making character judgements of you...
you are welcome to critique anything i do at any time you like aggro... anything i have posted here or at any other site is fair game... it always has been...
blownout cylinderLast time I checked the Post was SHOW US YOUR WEATHERED MODELS not WEATHERED MODELS Critique or summat. Jeremy sounds like a fellow who is more interested in marking territory as THE ALL KNOWING ONE. Sir, can you please back off and let people do what this post intended? You want to critique set up another thread. Sheesh. Another thing to consider--if critiquing a work one had better know what the person has done right as well as wrong. Tell the person what they are doing right--so that they then know where their strengths are and how they can IMPROVE what is already there. All that there appears to be right now is kvetching and whining about how certain people promote "Atta boy--isms" Let's try to imagine the possibility of not falling into being boors-----
uh, i think i have done two critiques here... one someone said to find something wrong with what he did... and i did point out what he did right... the second asked me to... and i pointed out what i thought he got right as well as what i didn't like...
i'm not in the business of just posting random critiques wherever i see fit... in fact i will not unless one is asked for... conversely, i won't just drop atta-boys if that is all someone seems to want... how is that not fair?
the whole point is that i love weathering and i love to see people show off their work and learn and grow... part of that is having your work objectively looked at by someone who knows what they are talking about and can constructively explain how to improve your methods and your techniques... am i a know-it-all? far from it and i'm sorry if that is how i come off to you... some people do not like to be told how to do something differently and that is fine...
if you want to just show off your models that's fine... if you don't care what anyone thinks of your work that's fine too, but why even post them? if you want someone to look at your models and objectively explain to you what could be improved, that's great...
so, maybe you should back off and have the facts correct before you feel like pigeon-holing me as something i am not nor have i exhibited here...
eloggerblownout cylinderLast time I checked the Post was SHOW US YOUR WEATHERED MODELS not WEATHERED MODELS Critique or summat. Jeremy sounds like a fellow who is more interested in marking territory as THE ALL KNOWING ONE. Sir, can you please back off and let people do what this post intended? You want to critique set up another thread. Sheesh. Another thing to consider--if critiquing a work one had better know what the person has done right as well as wrong. Tell the person what they are doing right--so that they then know where their strengths are and how they can IMPROVE what is already there. All that there appears to be right now is kvetching and whining about how certain people promote "Atta boy--isms" Let's try to imagine the possibility of not falling into being boors----- uh, i think i have done two critiques here... one someone said to find something wrong with what he did... and i did point out what he did right... the second asked me to... and i pointed out what i thought he got right as well as what i didn't like... i'm not in the business of just posting random critiques wherever i see fit... in fact i will not unless one is asked for... conversely, i won't just drop atta-boys if that is all someone seems to want... how is that not fair?the whole point is that i love weathering and i love to see people show off their work and learn and grow... part of that is having your work objectively looked at by someone who knows what they are talking about and can constructively explain how to improve your methods and your techniques... am i a know-it-all? far from it and i'm sorry if that is how i come off to you... some people do not like to be told how to do something differently and that is fine... if you want to just show off your models that's fine... if you don't care what anyone thinks of your work that's fine too, but why even post them? if you want someone to look at your models and objectively explain to you what could be improved, that's great... so, maybe you should back off and have the facts correct before you feel like pigeon-holing me as something i am not nor have i exhibited here... jeremy
"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."-Albert Einstein
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I'll sum it up quick. You and jerry are of the belief all my work looks the same. You stated it here but all dragged out with behind it. More than just 'I disagree'.
........
...just show some pictures that the point of this thread.
AggroJonesI'll sum it up quick. You and jerry are of the belief all my work looks the same. You stated it here but all dragged out with behind it. More than just 'I disagree'. ........ ...just show some pictures that the point of this thread.
Geared Steam Well since we are being critiqued, sentences start with capitol letters.
Well since we are being critiqued, sentences start with capitol letters.
you forgot the between every sentence...
twhiteMargaritaman: I think the refrigerator car at the loading dock of a toilet company somehow sums it all up, don't you? CLEVER! Tom
One of the first things you find out on the interwebs is to never open a picture that's titled;
"My beautiful wife", chances are, the outcome won't be to your liking...
As stated in another thread here. Weathering is finding a real niche and becoming more popular. MTW has been around for over five years; When Rich Divizio first decided to share his techniques and invite others to do the same, quite a few people climbed on board just to see how someone could weather a car and sell it for almost $200 on eBay. Rich got a lot of heat and controversy, but he kept on sharing and helping many of us along and many fine modelers were spawned on MTW. If you have the desire to learn and can take constructive criticism you will always grow your talents.
Not everyone has the ability to weather a car to an exacting standard, and not everyone needs to. If your standards are met and your cars look good to you then all is fine. But if you want to step things up a notch or two, you have to be able to look at your work through other peoples eyes and take to heart what is said. You may not agree, or you might find room to improve. That choice is yours. Lots of people leave right away because their feelings get hurt, like Driline.
Aggro posts at MTW and he doesn't get any slack, but he does get pats on the back too. No one over there considers themselves above anyone else. Actually some of the best modelers are newer members who have progressed rapidly into making museum quality cars. They did it with practice, trial and error and studying the prototype. The thing that Aggro never divulges is where he learned some of his techniques, just like RobbyP, who never credit MTW with all the help and tips he's received form us. That's too bad, but some people are just that way.
When I mention Museum quality, I'm not trying to sound elitist. Some of the most difficult things to weather are cars with very light weathering, not everything is a rust bucket.
Here's a fine example.
jerry you failed to mention the fact I evolved many techniques on my own and shared some of them too.
AggroJonesjerry you failed to mention the fact I evolved many techniques on my own and shared some of them too.
I did forget to thank Silver Pilot for his insightful post. Well said and true.
Before this is closed, ill put something in:
This was done with diesil soot scraped out of a exuast pipe rubbed on with a paintbrush and dust-like dirt "Tooth Brushed" on sealed with cheap hairspray. (courtsy of my sis)
As expected you respond as such. Doesn't matter. I have tutorials and helpful info around. Choose not to acknowledge it.
nik .n Before this is closed, ill put something in: This was done with diesil soot scraped out of a exuast pipe rubbed on with a paintbrush and dust-like dirt "Tooth Brushed" on sealed with cheap hairspray. (courtsy of my sis)
The chest thumping endeth herewith.
-Crandell
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