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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:19 AM

LOL.

I agree with you, but I am afraid that you are fighting a losing battle.

Rich

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:33 AM

AEP528

Obviously nobody uses electric stoves because they're too hard to cook on.

https://www.statista.com/chart/29082/most-common-type-of-stove-in-the-us/

Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading.

 

Those numbers are a result of availability more than choice. More recent high density housing is less likely to have been built with a gas infrastructure. Propane cannot be stored in the small backyards of town houses, etc. 

Model Railroading, the OP is moving because the cost of living where he is at is too high. Quality of life is directly related to model railroading. 

I can afford to build a 1500 sq ft model railroad partly because my Mid Atlantic basement requires no supplemental heat or a/c, has no head knocking ductwork, and my utility costs are low. 

That is one reason the OP is moving, to be able to afford model railroading.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:59 AM

BroadwayLion
Those were in the days before Home Depot.

Home Depot delivers.

mvlandsw
I've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside.

Mine is vented to the outside, and so is my microwave. Almost all new construction does not vent these to the outside, and I also find myself wondering why.

AEP528
Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading.

This thread started with political commentary, and has gotten worse. I am very surprised it has not been locked.

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Posted by NorthsideChi on Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:30 AM

mvlandsw

I've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside. That keep any combustion fumes, excess heat, and cooking odors out of the house. A hood over the stove catches only some, but not all of those.

Another thought is to use outside air for refridgeration when the temperature is appropiate.

Mark

 

Well larger ranges are but it's not an appliance you just leave on all day so emissions aren't as toxic as ambient air quality.  To steer this back to model railroading slightly, there some research done that the 3D printing I do may be harmful if it's done in a living space.  While the plastic is corn and sugar based, micro sized polymers can be inhaled and stuck in cells via the blood stream.  To date, no reports of people getting sick from 3D printing but if there's enough research to prove a long term effect, you'll start seeing warning stickers like you do on paints and solvents.  

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Posted by hbgatsf on Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:42 AM

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:45 AM

Attuvian1

 

 
York1

As far a gas stoves, certain groups will not be happy until there are vitually no open flames anywhere on earth.

 

 

 
Yup.  Then again, there's the view that the earth itself will end up a flamer.  And I'll leave it at that lest the powers that be raise an eyebrow.
 
Attuvian John 
 

Earths temp has been 7 degrees warmer in the past. Trouble is people in their studys base things on recorded history or less than 1000 years, that time is nothing when compaired to earths history and the only reason we know as much as we do is from deep ice which has come and gone many times in earth history. Do we affect the planet a little but we affect ourselfs more than temp.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:00 AM

SeeYou190

 

 
BroadwayLion
Those were in the days before Home Depot.

 

Home Depot delivers.

 

 
mvlandsw
I've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside.

 

Mine is vented to the outside, and so is my microwave. Almost all new construction does not vent these to the outside, and I also find myself wondering why.

 

 
AEP528
Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading.

 

This thread started with political commentary, and has gotten worse. I am very surprised it has not been locked.

-Kevin

 

If we can't talk about other things than trains, then the forum is truly doomed. When there used to be train shows, we did not limit the conversations to trains, same with the train clubs I belonged to or visited.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:26 AM

rrebell
If we can't talk about other things than trains, then the forum is truly doomed.

Our hosts have historically allowed off-topic discussions in the Diner, but poltics is a strictly forbidden topic even there.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:43 AM

SeeYou190
I am very surprised it has not been locked.

Makes two of us.  Maybe they've lost the ability to do so.

rrebell
Earths temp has been 7 degrees warmer in the past. Trouble is people in their studys base things on recorded history or less than 1000 years, that time is nothing when compaired to earths history and the only reason we know as much as we do is from deep ice which has come and gone many times in earth history.

Only instead of changing slowly over time, geologically speaking, it is changing quickly (again geologically speaking) and evidence showing direct correlation to the kick off of the industrial revolution.  By the way, another not that long ago study concluded we would actually have worse greenhouse gas emissions if everyone relied on horse and buggy as opposed to automobiles.  May or may not have been a skewed study.  Overpopulation may be the issue nobody wants to talk about.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, January 12, 2023 12:29 PM

SeeYou190
Personally, I could never live in one of those communities, with their 1/10 acre lots and driveways too short for a pickup truck.

126' from the garage to the road for me.

 

My wife's good friend lives three doors away, but she always drives over when she visits.

We rarely lock the doors at our house or cars. B&Es do not happen as the thieves are too lazy to come this far, we all leave our lawn tractors, pressure washers, and other equipment out in the yard for six months then put it away when the weather turns. I have not heard that any neighbour has had something stolen.

Do you want a big train room? I sold my 45-year-old 2000sqft house on a small lot in the city and bought a 5 year-old 4000sqft with a 1200 sqft garage on acres for the same price out in the stix. 

I have water in the creek across the street if needed and breakfast, lunch, and dinner are often asleep on the front lawn if the grocery stores run out of food. The wife grows fresh veggies all summer long and the neighbours give us fresh eggs and veggies as well.

The only reason I bought the house was to have room to do the things I wanted, including a trainroom, however, not being surrounded by noise and obnoxious people means the city is a non-starter for me after experiencing such peace and quiet.

Want a lot more bang for the buck, move out of the rat pit to the country.

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, January 12, 2023 12:36 PM

BATMAN
Move out of the rat pit to the country.

Well, I certainly do not think I live in a "Rat Pit" as you described.

The rural area is a non-starter for me, sorry. The disadvantages are way too many.

It is a nice place to visit, but it gets old very quickly. There is a lot more to life than being able to kill your own meat and graze for berries.

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, January 12, 2023 12:38 PM

Water Level Route
Overpopulation may be the issue nobody wants to talk about.

Yes

Brent

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Posted by hbgatsf on Thursday, January 12, 2023 12:48 PM

SeeYou190

Our hosts have historically allowed off-topic discussions in the Diner, but poltics is a strictly forbidden topic even there.

-Kevin

 

Where is the diner?

Rick

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