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I used to occasionally run a train or two at a club that used a Wangrow system, so I'll try to answer. Hopefully someone will be able to confirm or correct...
For the power supply, you should always use a supply with an amp capacity of what the system is rated for. Wangrow made 5 and (8? 10?) amp systems, so you'd need a 5 or an (8? 10?) amp supply, as appropriate. This is so the booster's overload protection will cut out properly in case of a short. With a lower-rated power supply, that booster may simmer itself to death instead of turning off it's output.
For the reversing section outputs, I believe the answer would be "Yes". A turntable bridge is like any other reversing section.
HTH,Steve
I thought that the complete system would have come with a power supply, at least when Wangrow was supplying it. Maybe not! In any case, I'm not sure what you mean about the low end NCE power supply. If you mean the one that comes with the Power Cab (2-1/2 amp?plug in thing), I don't know the answer. However, if you are talking about the 5 amp power supply, I think that should work.
Regarding your other question, I don't know. However, the System One manual should probably address that question. as I recall, that manual was rather extensive and informative. If you did not get the manual when you made your purchase, there used to be an on-line resource that had a copy of the manual. I tried to open that today, and got a "file is damaged and cannot be repaired" message. I did send an email to the "contact me" person asking if the problem was at his end. In any case, go to www.allpointsnorthmrrc.org and look under the technical information link. The System One manual is listed there. maybe you will have better luck opening it then I did.
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modelmaker51 wrote:You could also contact NCE directly, as they took over the company and renamed it NCE.
Actually, that's not quite correct. NCE and Wangrow existed as separate companies, but shared some development and production of their respective DCC systems. That's the reason for the strong family resemblence.
Later, they apparently had a falling out and broke off that business relationship. Wangrow remained in the DCC business, but the company seemed to be on the decline. Don Wangrow's family ran the company for a short time after his death, and from what I understand, they later sold it off.
I guess NCE is who they could have sold it to, but I never heard that was the case. In any event, NCE isn't a renamed version of the Wangrow company.
Steve
NCE was honoring repairs on System One's for about a year after Wangrow's family sold the business, and some parts of NCE products are compatible with System One. From what I've heard, there is still an authorized repair facility in Illinois somewhere near Park Ridge where System One's originated from.
The P515 power supply was what I had in mind to power up with..I would think that 5 amps would be enough.
The turntable polarity is what I'm most concerned with. The PSR01 is a dual power station/reverse block controller with two track terminals...what I'm trying to find out is can this baby handle the turntable duties on the track 2 terminals while the rest of the layout runs on track 1.
It should work OK the way that you want it to. Since each track circuit is protected by a circuit breaker, try it and see.
NCE was the company that originally built the System-One electronics for Wangrow. I am almost sure that if you gave NCE a call, they could answer your questions for sure and even provide service if you needed it. It might be worth calling them anyway, just to see, in case you needed repair work later on.
Elmer.
The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.
(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.
I have a large layout that operates on Sys1 DCC with 4 dual boosters. I bought the Wangrow System One about 24 years ago. The Sys1 has proven to be bullet proof. Although it has been enhanced with additional NCE Power Pro throttles. I have a back up NCE command station, just in case, if the Sys1 ever goes south.
The answer to both of your questions is a qualified yes. I assume you have a dual booster set. I would not recommend the low end NCE power supply for this booster, for the current detection reasons already offered. You will need a 16 to 18 volt AC source rated at least 5 to 10 amps for a dual booster set. Each breaker in the dual set is set at 5 amps. NCE'[s single power supply at 5 Amps would be your safest bet.
Wangrow also offered a 10 amp Booster single version for O & G scales. I built my own power supplies at a slightly higher current capability, but added breakers to the power supplies at 5 amps for each output. If you have a single Wangrow booster, you still want a 5 amp power supply.
I had a Wangrow Sys 1 back in 1995 when I switched from a Lenz DCC system. The Sys 1 command station cannot be upgraded with newer software that now exists.Also the handsets especially the big 01 version are not repairable as some parts in them no longer exist. The 04 and 05 cab boxes and handset layout is the same between Sys 1 and NCE as Jim Scorse the owner of NCE was involved in the design work for Sys 1 before NCE existed. The Sys 1 boosters can be used with current NCE systems. In fact I still have 3 of the 4 original dual 5 amp models in service. I would recommend a newer NCE system for the long haul. I don't believe a new NCE cab 06 will work with a Sys 1 command station. ----------- Ken McCorry