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Steam era branchline - to turn or not to turn?

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Posted by FowlmereRR on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:12 AM

Thanks everyone for the very useful information. I think I'll try to incorporate an Armstrong turntable if I can, because I like seeing turntables in operation, but if not then at least a run-around so that the engine can run tender first at the right end at least!

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:09 AM

Although it wasn't unheard of for a steam engine to work backwards on a branch line that didn't have a turntable or other turning facility at the end of the line, it was much less common than it would be for a line served by a diesel. In fact, many of the early diesel purchases were specifically for serving a branchline so that a turntable could be eliminated. (For example, EMD's BL-1 and BL-2 engines, BL stood for "Branch Line", and were an attempt to modify the FT diesel to serve branch lines, switch yards etc.)

 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:02 AM

mlehman
On many roads, engines assigned to service that included reverse running would often be equipped with rear headlights, sometimes even a pilot, on the rear of the tender. Tenders would sometimes have coal pocket extensions that were narrow enough that the engineer could see past them easily when backing.

As a fun fact some times the head brakeman would ride on the tender deck and watch things and signal  the engineer if there was a need.

I've seen photos of cabooses with headlights mounted on the roof and combines that had a headlight mounted either off center or center..I suppose the brakeman would ride on the platform protecting the shove.

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Posted by Mike Kieran on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:53 AM

And also how much money the financiers of the rail line were willing to spend.

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:53 AM

Bob,

In New England, there was a bit more of a tendency to use Forney's or other style tank engines, so your regional flavor is working in your favor if you want to use that as a solution for motive power.

On many roads, engines assigned to service that included reverse running would often be equipped with rear headlights, sometimes even a pilot, on the rear of the tender. Tenders would sometimes have coal pocket extensions that were narrow enough that the engineer could see past them easily when backing.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:42 AM

Bob,It would depend on the branch some had a wye,some a armstrong turntable and others nothing.

A branch could have been built as a second thought to appease the local or state government  or may have started life as a locally backed  short line to give a community rail access and this short line was bought by a larger road and could have all the trimmings line a one or two stall engine house,turntable a water tank and coal tipple..

Another thing is as traffic died on the branch railroads would take track out of service since there was no traffic left beyond a small town or mile post, some times a flood would damage or destroy a bridge and the railroad elected not to repair or replace the bridge.

So,it wasn't uncommon for a steam engine to return tender first on some branch lines..

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Steam era branchline - to turn or not to turn?
Posted by FowlmereRR on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:40 AM

Hi - hoping to tap in to the wealth of knowledge here to help plan my 1920's New England layout.

I wonder what was most common practice on small branch lines when a local would run to the end of the line and have to return. Would all branch lines have turning facilities, or did locos make return runs tender-first as routine? I won't have room for a turning loop or a wye on my shelf layout, but a small turntable would fit. Would that have been the norm in such cases?

Thanks,

Bob

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