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HO Flex Track Dilema
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:58 PM
I am new to the scene & debating between code 83 & code 100 flex track for a new layout and need some advice please. I like the code 100 because it is more sturdy, the ties are even, and there are through -holes for mounting. I like the code 83 because it is more scale-realistic, however the ties are very uneven on straight sections, the spikes are more fragile, and there are only small (mounting?) depressions on the bottom side of the ties, not through holes for mounting. Also, the mounting holes are in the center (for code 100), lining up nicely with the gap between the two cork roadbed halves underneath! Should I just glue down the track & forget nailing? Are there other cautions for using code 83 (such as compatible wheel flange depths on cars, limited options for turn-outs, etc.?) Help!
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HO Flex Track Dilema
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 4, 2003 6:58 PM
I am new to the scene & debating between code 83 & code 100 flex track for a new layout and need some advice please. I like the code 100 because it is more sturdy, the ties are even, and there are through -holes for mounting. I like the code 83 because it is more scale-realistic, however the ties are very uneven on straight sections, the spikes are more fragile, and there are only small (mounting?) depressions on the bottom side of the ties, not through holes for mounting. Also, the mounting holes are in the center (for code 100), lining up nicely with the gap between the two cork roadbed halves underneath! Should I just glue down the track & forget nailing? Are there other cautions for using code 83 (such as compatible wheel flange depths on cars, limited options for turn-outs, etc.?) Help!
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Posted by Javern on Thursday, September 4, 2003 7:30 PM
with code 83 you have to even more careful with ballast as you have less clearance as compared to code 100. I glued my code 100 down with wood glue.
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Posted by Javern on Thursday, September 4, 2003 7:30 PM
with code 83 you have to even more careful with ballast as you have less clearance as compared to code 100. I glued my code 100 down with wood glue.
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Posted by tomwatkins on Thursday, September 4, 2003 9:06 PM
I use Atlas code 83 flax track, and it works well. The depressions in the ties underneath should be drilled through, giving you a centered nail hole. Be careful not to drive the nails in too far, pressing the ties down in the center. That narrows the guage slightly. Code 83 is more delicate than code 100, but not so much as to be hard to work with.
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Posted by tomwatkins on Thursday, September 4, 2003 9:06 PM
I use Atlas code 83 flax track, and it works well. The depressions in the ties underneath should be drilled through, giving you a centered nail hole. Be careful not to drive the nails in too far, pressing the ties down in the center. That narrows the guage slightly. Code 83 is more delicate than code 100, but not so much as to be hard to work with.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 5, 2003 3:35 PM
If you don't want to drill n nail it use a thin stripe of Liquid nails and tack it down with map pins (which are thumbtacks with a big plastic head) until dry. You can't ever pull and reuse the track, but don't have nails showing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 5, 2003 3:35 PM
If you don't want to drill n nail it use a thin stripe of Liquid nails and tack it down with map pins (which are thumbtacks with a big plastic head) until dry. You can't ever pull and reuse the track, but don't have nails showing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 5, 2003 4:40 PM
I also use code 100. I love realism, but when you are gazing at your (or someone elses') layout, how obvious is it that the rails are 0.017" taller?
Not me. I like not worry about my couplers dragging the ballast or some other problem due to track clearance. The only big differance I see is that the code 83 track already has brown ties (even though they still have the "plastic" look). I paint my track and ties anyway so it's not that big of deal for me. I saw that some other people mentioned mounting the track with liquid nails which is a great idea. I like to use, of all things, hot glue. The reason I like it over the other meathods is
1) It dries instantly so you can keep working
2) You can still reuse the track by sliding a razor blade under the ties and peeling of the extra glue.
3) I can buy a 100 glue sticks for $3.00 at Walmart.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 5, 2003 4:40 PM
I also use code 100. I love realism, but when you are gazing at your (or someone elses') layout, how obvious is it that the rails are 0.017" taller?
Not me. I like not worry about my couplers dragging the ballast or some other problem due to track clearance. The only big differance I see is that the code 83 track already has brown ties (even though they still have the "plastic" look). I paint my track and ties anyway so it's not that big of deal for me. I saw that some other people mentioned mounting the track with liquid nails which is a great idea. I like to use, of all things, hot glue. The reason I like it over the other meathods is
1) It dries instantly so you can keep working
2) You can still reuse the track by sliding a razor blade under the ties and peeling of the extra glue.
3) I can buy a 100 glue sticks for $3.00 at Walmart.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 2:57 PM
Hot glue? What a great idea! For most of my layout I been using wood glue for both my cork roadbed and also my track laying. Walmart , here I come.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 2:57 PM
Hot glue? What a great idea! For most of my layout I been using wood glue for both my cork roadbed and also my track laying. Walmart , here I come.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 7, 2003 12:24 PM
I used to use 100, but switched to code 83, for two reasons. First, I think it does look more realistic, but second, assuming you are going to buy Atlas turnouts which most beginners do, their 83 line is more relaible then their 100 line. If you compare their code 100 line vs code 83 turn-out line, you'll see the 83's are not only more realistic but operate more reliably then the Atlas code 100's due to the way they are made. I am speaking specifically about tyhe Atlas code 83 #505 (lefthand) and #506 (right hand) "Super Track" line. Their other code 83 turn-outs are not much better than their code 100 line.
As far as mounting track, the best adhesive I have found is Aleene's Tacky Glue (found in craft stores)---- cheap, bonds fast enough that you can keep working, neat (hot melt is often "stringy", and I have been able to easily pop track off with the careful use of a putty knife and reuse it (no way you can do that w/Liquid Nails!).
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 7, 2003 12:24 PM
I used to use 100, but switched to code 83, for two reasons. First, I think it does look more realistic, but second, assuming you are going to buy Atlas turnouts which most beginners do, their 83 line is more relaible then their 100 line. If you compare their code 100 line vs code 83 turn-out line, you'll see the 83's are not only more realistic but operate more reliably then the Atlas code 100's due to the way they are made. I am speaking specifically about tyhe Atlas code 83 #505 (lefthand) and #506 (right hand) "Super Track" line. Their other code 83 turn-outs are not much better than their code 100 line.
As far as mounting track, the best adhesive I have found is Aleene's Tacky Glue (found in craft stores)---- cheap, bonds fast enough that you can keep working, neat (hot melt is often "stringy", and I have been able to easily pop track off with the careful use of a putty knife and reuse it (no way you can do that w/Liquid Nails!).
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:22 AM
What brand is the adhesive caulk that is being used to put down track. Is it silicone bases

Thanking all in advance
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:22 AM
What brand is the adhesive caulk that is being used to put down track. Is it silicone bases

Thanking all in advance
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:30 PM
My last layout was code 100 with nails in the holes. Didn't like the looks of the exposed nailheads so will use glue this time around but will stay with code 100. I also tune up the Atlas turnouts before installing them. There was an article a couple (or more - time goes fast when you are having fun) of years back on how to improve the Atlas turnouts. I like the idea of being able to remove and reuse the track so will choose hot glue or that Aleene's tacky glue. Will experiment on a staging yard area and see which I like.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:30 PM
My last layout was code 100 with nails in the holes. Didn't like the looks of the exposed nailheads so will use glue this time around but will stay with code 100. I also tune up the Atlas turnouts before installing them. There was an article a couple (or more - time goes fast when you are having fun) of years back on how to improve the Atlas turnouts. I like the idea of being able to remove and reuse the track so will choose hot glue or that Aleene's tacky glue. Will experiment on a staging yard area and see which I like.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:54 PM
To clarify my previous comment, I recommend Aleene's tacky glue, not hot melt. Aleene's grabs fast and holds well put you can pop off the track later if needed. Hot melt is a mess and drys too fast for a 36" long pc. of flex. And Aleene's is cheap!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:54 PM
To clarify my previous comment, I recommend Aleene's tacky glue, not hot melt. Aleene's grabs fast and holds well put you can pop off the track later if needed. Hot melt is a mess and drys too fast for a 36" long pc. of flex. And Aleene's is cheap!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 24, 2003 12:43 PM
I now pin track down with map pins and ballast. When the ballast glue dries pull the map pins and touch up any areas missed due to them. Track is now stuck down without the use of an extra adhesive or nails and can be removed with alcohol to soften up the ballast glue. Just built 2 new curve modules this way with flex track and it works great. I think I wasted my money on liquid nails and metal nails in the past. Track is even leveler this way. FRED
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 24, 2003 12:43 PM
I now pin track down with map pins and ballast. When the ballast glue dries pull the map pins and touch up any areas missed due to them. Track is now stuck down without the use of an extra adhesive or nails and can be removed with alcohol to soften up the ballast glue. Just built 2 new curve modules this way with flex track and it works great. I think I wasted my money on liquid nails and metal nails in the past. Track is even leveler this way. FRED
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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:23 PM
Do not use silicone base caulks for adhesives. Use the latex variety, it can be painted and removed from the flex if you need to recycle the track.

Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com

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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:23 PM
Do not use silicone base caulks for adhesives. Use the latex variety, it can be painted and removed from the flex if you need to recycle the track.

Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com

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Posted by preceng on Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:00 PM
I often use a product called Spray Mount, A spray can adhesive to temporarily locate the track. Art supply stores carry it. It will hold the track in place until you are happy with the alignment. It will also allow moving the track until you are happy. Then ballst and glue.
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Posted by preceng on Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:00 PM
I often use a product called Spray Mount, A spray can adhesive to temporarily locate the track. Art supply stores carry it. It will hold the track in place until you are happy with the alignment. It will also allow moving the track until you are happy. Then ballst and glue.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 9:32 AM
Hi all,

I'm using Atlas code 100 flex track and I'm new at this. How do you go about cutting and trimming the flex track? If anyone can give me an idea on how to cut the rails and how to trim the plastic rail ties so the rail joiner's will fit would be of so much help.

Thank You All, Jeff L.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 9:32 AM
Hi all,

I'm using Atlas code 100 flex track and I'm new at this. How do you go about cutting and trimming the flex track? If anyone can give me an idea on how to cut the rails and how to trim the plastic rail ties so the rail joiner's will fit would be of so much help.

Thank You All, Jeff L.
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, January 16, 2004 11:48 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamEngine

To clarify my previous comment, I recommend Aleene's tacky glue, not hot melt. Aleene's grabs fast and holds well put you can pop off the track later if needed. Hot melt is a mess and drys too fast for a 36" long pc. of flex. And Aleene's is cheap!


And is in the craft section at Wal-Mart. I recommend it too. I use to attach WS foam roadbed, would probably work with cork too. It stays slightly flexible, which helps dampen noise.
Nigel N&W in HO scale, 1950 - 1955 (..and some a bit newer too) Now in San Jose, California
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, January 16, 2004 11:48 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamEngine

To clarify my previous comment, I recommend Aleene's tacky glue, not hot melt. Aleene's grabs fast and holds well put you can pop off the track later if needed. Hot melt is a mess and drys too fast for a 36" long pc. of flex. And Aleene's is cheap!


And is in the craft section at Wal-Mart. I recommend it too. I use to attach WS foam roadbed, would probably work with cork too. It stays slightly flexible, which helps dampen noise.
Nigel N&W in HO scale, 1950 - 1955 (..and some a bit newer too) Now in San Jose, California

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