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How To Build Realistic HO-Scale Pine Trees (Photo Intensive)

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Posted by MikieM on Thursday, April 21, 2022 5:06 PM

Thank you for the great tutorial.  I love having the photos along with the step by step instructions.    

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Posted by kasskaboose on Thursday, January 24, 2019 12:05 PM

Can you poke the holes using a thumbtack or even a nail?  If that won't work, what about a needle?  I think something thin works.  The balsa is thin enough tha it won't require much pressure to penetrate it.

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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:59 AM

Bob Grech used to post this kind of useful and well-illustrated tutorial pretty often here.  (I am pleased and surprised that the photo hosting for the original photos to this post is still going strong.)  Bob stopped posting for a long while, then started up again last year, but I have not seen anything of his for months.  

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:00 PM

I must have missed this one somehow. Nice looking trees Bob, impressive. Some other fine-looking trees here as well.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:47 AM

Thanks much!  What fantastic, cheap, and easy trees.  I love the thorough tutorial.  The pictures make the entire process so much easier than anything I've seen for making pine trees.

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Posted by Steven Holt on Monday, January 21, 2019 9:39 PM

Thanks for the tutoriol.

I'm going to try this for Redwoods in N scale in the next few weeks. 

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Posted by JimMac on Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:34 PM

Nice article. Thanks for posting it. Only one thing, real pine trees actually have more, not less foliage at the top as the top of the tree gets the sun. At least the pines in my backyard down east here in Maine do.

 

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Posted by OHWOW52 on Friday, December 10, 2010 8:42 AM

I can't wait to do this tree(s) for my grandson N scale layout.  It looks so realistic and it is made by hand.  Not the store bought kind.  Thank you, 

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Posted by ARTHILL on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 9:34 AM

Note of clarification, Caspia is not fern. They both work really well, but the trees look different and model different prototypes in different scales. Try the both, including different species of Caspia. You can find all the variations in craft stores, but sometimes not all the same week.

If you think you have it right, your standards are too low. my photos http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/ARTHILL/ Art
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 8:01 AM
Thanks for the clarification Bob.  Much appreciated.  I can't wait to try this method out. 

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Posted by Bob grech on Monday, July 31, 2006 9:45 PM

In response to the question of sealing the caspia fern:

I have never had to seal the fern. Some of the trees seen on my layout were built over 10 years ago and have not dried out. Most likely, this means the fern was pre-cured with some kind of preservative. However, if need be, the fern can be sealed with a light dusting of dull coat or other sealer. The only time I've had drying issues is when lichen was used. Lichen will dry out over time. Fortunetly, this material is seldom used today.  

Have Fun.... Bob.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 31, 2006 9:28 PM

I have the same question as TGG and a lot of other people who want to do this GREAT idea for pines, is the caspia already sealed, or do we have to seal it to prevent it from falling apart? If we do have to seal it, what can we use???

Editing this, I actually meant the fern, because I personnaly thought it would dry out and fall apart, thanks for the clarification :P

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 31, 2006 7:40 AM
Great tutorial Bob!  I like it :-)

My question is, do you apply anything to preserve the caspia or is it already in a preserved state when you buy it?  Once the tree is fully assembled do you spray coat it with anything to help it stay instact?  Will the caspia fall off over time?  In your experience, What's the life span of one of these caspia based trees?

They seem a great solution to my tree requirement.  I would also love to hear from all others re: their experiences with this topic.

Thanks,
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Posted by ARTHILL on Sunday, July 9, 2006 5:20 PM
Keep at it. As you discovered there is a trick to this, but a learnable trick. I started to get good ones with about the sixth one. I still don't have a great one, but good enough for Mt Sublime. Show us one when you like it.
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Posted by jacon12 on Sunday, July 9, 2006 4:39 PM
Bob and some of you fellas make this look sooooo easy. I tried it today and believe me.. you ain't gonna see it. But, it was the first one I've ever done and after fixing up Bob's photo some..

and printing it out, I can see where I went wrong. Maybe my next one will be more 'treelike' :)
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Posted by jacon12 on Saturday, July 8, 2006 11:34 AM
Bob, do you use any type glue to hold the 'limbs' in place and also do you use anything like cheap hairspray on the tree when finished?
Thanks,
Jarrell
P.s. looking back at the photos I see the wood glue so I guess that answers that part.
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Posted by ARTHILL on Saturday, July 8, 2006 9:30 AM
I use a spindle sander, the advantage being for crooked trees like Scotch Pine, I can carve the twists as I go. A 1/2 inch dowel makes a great 1/4 inch twisted trunk.
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Posted by selector on Friday, July 7, 2006 10:10 PM
If I could suggest a big time saver for those using 1/2" dowels, hold the to-be 'fat' end in one hand, and turn it under a hand-held disk sander. You'll have your taper in about four minutes, unless you are in a hurry and don't mind the slightly tarred look where the wood gets too hot.
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Posted by Bob grech on Friday, July 7, 2006 7:53 PM
Karl, Art, Chip, and Bob:

Great feed-back. Love the work you guys did with those trees! Like everyone else on this forum, I enjoy learning new techniques when it comes to Model Railroading.

Keep up the good work!
Bob...

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Posted by canazar on Friday, July 7, 2006 4:02 PM

Here are the ones I put together. I used trimmings off my orange and grapfruit trees for the turnks and used the poly-extruded foam (green cottonball stuff) with your typical over the shelf ground up foam glued on. The big thing I found that works realy well with these is after I shape install the extruded stuff, I use a lighter, very carefully mind you, to burn off and melt any little straggles. Helpt ot give it a nice shell, so to speak, and add a bit more "stiffness" The trick is to hold the lighter, or candle, about 4-6 iches above the flame. Spray with diluted glue and water, and whola! Trees.


I need to get some better pictures though....


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 7, 2006 3:37 PM
Here's a couple of my Big Boys

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Friday, July 7, 2006 1:19 PM
My best trees are not evergreen, but I'll put them up anyway. I basically use the flowers from the sedium plant. I'ts just a matter of spraying with hair spray and varying the color of the ground foam.




And this is what they look like on the layout.



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Posted by ARTHILL on Friday, July 7, 2006 12:12 PM
Great work. Thanks. I was working on a similar tutorial, but it was not this good. Now I can skip that. The only differnces I sometimes use are:
1. I start with a dowl and sand it down to a point and put bark in with a dremel tool.
2. I cut slots in the top to put more sprigs of caspia for those trees that are very full at the top.





For those who have not tried this, it is a blast, you get good trees the first time and can get great trees with practice. BG's are exceptional but not beyond any of us. (Some of his stuff is). I have found that Micheals occassionally has variations on Caspia that make fuller trees. I have also learned that putting the Caspia facing down makes a Red Pine and putting the Caspia facing up makes a better White Pine.

Show us your trees. As we look at each others we all learn. "Only God can make a tree", but we can have a blast modeling them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 7, 2006 11:12 AM
Bob, I use the same tech. but switch off between Black and Brown I/A stain, this gives some trees the dark gray-blk and some a red-brown on the bark.

When you use Aspargus fern what do you spray the fern with to keep the needles from constant sheding?

Your trees look great and excellent How-to
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 7, 2006 8:34 AM
Add my thanks to all the others.
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Posted by jacon12 on Friday, July 7, 2006 7:05 AM
Bob, this is much appreciated. I too have added the tutorial to my How To folder. Maybe before too much longer I'll start in on the scenery and this will come in mighty handy.
Jarrell
P.S. Ya can't get too photo intensive for me... :)
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Posted by Tom Bryant_MR on Friday, July 7, 2006 4:46 AM
Great. Perfect. Just enough detail and good job. I've added this to my How Too's favorites. I will need to build some of these for the Elgin patch on my layout.

Thanks for taking the time and sharing Bob.

Tom

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Posted by ukguy on Thursday, July 6, 2006 10:45 PM
just use a bigger dowel Chip, or another piece of wood, I am using 1x2 soft pine ripped down the middle and cut to 18-24" length. then just use larger limbs from the caspia, they sill look great. I'll give you a time scale per tree when I get an average but I'm guessin 30mins each.

Have fun & be safe
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Posted by ukguy on Thursday, July 6, 2006 10:42 PM
Great in depth tutorial Bob, many thanks for sharing, I am currently building about 100 trees in a similar method, and I know Arthill has had great success with the caspia twigs and balsa trunks already. Its tips like these that we all need to share, thanks for taking the time and doing it so concisely.

A caspia based hickory tree



A caspia based fir tree



Best regards,
Karl.

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