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QUOTE: Originally posted by Chessie7 Poll: If you used a CAD computer program to design a layout, which one was it? Perhaps CAD RAIL, or 3rd Planet... Let me know which one you used! Thanks.
QUOTE: Originally posted by burt olinger I use AUTODESK 2000 BUT HAD TO DESIGN MY OWN COMPONENTS.
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith Same here, Autocadd 2000i, same thing with components (track, switches, etc.).
QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier TurboCad 3.0, have to design own components
Originally posted by Chessie7 Thanks! Where did you get AUTODESK? Pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but what do you mean that you "had to design my own componets"?[i] You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. Having used CAD which allows virtual tracklaying to see what will fit and what won't; and being able to try different arrangements to MAKE something fit, makes one appreciate the effort that must have gone into trackplanning in pre-computer times. Sometimes i really hate this silly machine, but wouln't be without it! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 1:31 PM Originally posted by Chessie7 Thanks! Where did you get AUTODESK? Pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but what do you mean that you "had to design my own componets"?[i] You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. Having used CAD which allows virtual tracklaying to see what will fit and what won't; and being able to try different arrangements to MAKE something fit, makes one appreciate the effort that must have gone into trackplanning in pre-computer times. Sometimes i really hate this silly machine, but wouln't be without it! Reply Edit jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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[i] You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. Having used CAD which allows virtual tracklaying to see what will fit and what won't; and being able to try different arrangements to MAKE something fit, makes one appreciate the effort that must have gone into trackplanning in pre-computer times. Sometimes i really hate this silly machine, but wouln't be without it! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 1:31 PM Originally posted by Chessie7 Thanks! Where did you get AUTODESK? Pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but what do you mean that you "had to design my own componets"?[i] You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. Having used CAD which allows virtual tracklaying to see what will fit and what won't; and being able to try different arrangements to MAKE something fit, makes one appreciate the effort that must have gone into trackplanning in pre-computer times. Sometimes i really hate this silly machine, but wouln't be without it! Reply Edit jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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Originally posted by Chessie7 Thanks! Where did you get AUTODESK? Pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but what do you mean that you "had to design my own componets"?[i] You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. Having used CAD which allows virtual tracklaying to see what will fit and what won't; and being able to try different arrangements to MAKE something fit, makes one appreciate the effort that must have gone into trackplanning in pre-computer times. Sometimes i really hate this silly machine, but wouln't be without it! Reply Edit jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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[i] You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. Having used CAD which allows virtual tracklaying to see what will fit and what won't; and being able to try different arrangements to MAKE something fit, makes one appreciate the effort that must have gone into trackplanning in pre-computer times. Sometimes i really hate this silly machine, but wouln't be without it! Reply Edit jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply jwfoise Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: NE Ohio 26 posts Posted by jwfoise on Monday, August 18, 2003 5:00 PM RR Track Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! 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QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration.
QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in 'library' of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration. I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken Yes; if the mfg doesn't provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails. Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is 'fixed' by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout. Reply Edit preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply preceng Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Pittsburgh, PA 208 posts Posted by preceng on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:00 PM Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00 I have not used other software. For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks. ALSO: Benchwork (table) designs for 4'x8' w/ 2'x3' wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More. If you ask, I will supply Good Luck Allan B. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:49 PM I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0 You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package. I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the "things" around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase. A CAD package allows you to use "layers" that you can turn "on" and "off" so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors). I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther's turntable and roundhouse. I'm happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale. Quick CAD 8 comes with a great "CAD for Dummies" type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before. Note that you can't get the "virtual view" of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn't interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually. -Bryan Reply Edit 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
QUOTE: Originally posted by ken_heaps I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download. Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out? Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return... Thanks, Ken