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New layout. Please let me hear your suggestions.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 8:59 AM
2 problems, Yard seems like an afterthought in the plan, no A/D tracks, and no drill track, if your gonna switch the yard your gonna need a proper set up, and you cant do it in your space, perhaps build the yard has a module that extends off the layout? You wouldnt need more then say, four feet of 12'' shelf to make a proper yard.

The turn table is crammed in, it would be wiser to rethink its position, or get rid of it altogether, engines have to make power moves on the mainline to get to their trains in the yard, and thats just not prototypical.

Rethink the yard and the engine terminal, maybe add some staging tracks?
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Posted by grandeman on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 8:43 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dtbowyer

With a little shifting on the bottom half to connect the track, you could take the industry cut in half by grande man's view block and have a loads in/empties out operation (coal mine/power plant). Adds a nice operational option.

Overall, looks great. Should be a lot of fun to operate!

David



David, are you talking about a thru the backdrop industry? If so, he'd need to keep track elevation closely in mind on each side of the backdrop. That would be easy to do with a foam base though. Great idea! That would add alot to the operations.
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Posted by dtbowyer on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 12:24 AM
With a little shifting on the bottom half to connect the track, you could take the industry cut in half by grande man's view block and have a loads in/empties out operation (coal mine/power plant). Adds a nice operational option.

Overall, looks great. Should be a lot of fun to operate!

David
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 8:32 PM

Ok, here's the latest layout.
I added some of the suggestions from you guys.
How's that?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 12:45 PM
grande man,
thanks for the picture. I like your suggestions a lot. So far I'd been thinking 2D.
I was hesitant to use foam board, but that would clearly help to change elevations.
Since 3rd Planit allows me to change elevations, I'll be able to look at that in 3D as
well to get an idea.

Texas Zepher,
you're right. I took the double slip out and put in another cross-over from track #2 to #3,
further to the left. I also moved the #1 to #2 cross-over further to the right. Thanks!

little grande man,
good idea. I have a 3 stall roundhouse, but 2 more tracks below that would be good.
Thanks!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 9:53 AM
You might want to add some extra tracks coming off of your turntable. You could probably fit two more. That way you could keep more engines on the layout at once.
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, July 3, 2005 11:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Kyle S.
I am redesigning my 3x6 N scale layout with Peco c55 track and turnouts.
I think I finally got a plan that I can use, but I sure would like to hear your
suggestions for improvements, if any.

I don't understand the purpose of the cross through with double slip from the outside to third track in the center of the bottom? Seems to me like a simple crossover on each end would be better and leave more room on each "siding".
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Posted by grandeman on Sunday, July 3, 2005 8:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Kyle S.

I like your idea. Is there any chance that you could take the layout plan, draw
in your suggestions and post it here or email it to me? That would make it much
easier to visualize it.
I sure like the idea of having 2 towns on different elevations.
Thanks!


Not a problem!

Keep in mind that, if possible, inclines are best begun and ended on straight track. If you have to do them in a curve it can be made to work but requires some "fiddling" at times. Elevation change above and below track level (as well as the track itself) really adds visual appeal to a RR. Here's a few changes I made that you might consider. Maybe someone else can add to them. Have fun building!


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 3, 2005 8:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by selector

It looks fine to me, quite compact and interesting. I see no obvious problems, and think that you must have either some experience or guidance in this...?

What do you have planned for the big open space near left centre, where those two spurs dead-end?

I'm glad you like it.
My first layout was based on the Atlas Expanded Double Track Loop on a 3x5
layout, which is by now unrecognizable.
I modified that original layout with some help I found in another forum and finally
came up with this layout. Since I already streched my layout by another foot, it has
to be that compact to allow the operations I have in mind.

I'm planning on putting a small downtown scene into the open space on the left
hand side. I'm still working on putting all the pieces into my CAD simulation.
That does take time, but beats last minute changes on the real thing.. [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 3, 2005 8:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by oleirish

I like it,now same design in H.O.I wonder what the width and length would be?OH sorry just thinking!![^][bow]Real nice work[(-D][:-,]
JIM

I'm glad you like it!
Just crunch the numbers for N vs HO scale size.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 3, 2005 8:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by grande man

Looks good. Will you have access all the way around? If so, you could relocate the industrial spur by the turntable a little and have a double sided backdrop diagonally across the layout. This would give you two separate towns (or a town and an industry) and break up the "going in a circle" look. You could use WS risers in the curves to climb to one town and decend to the other. If the whole works was on two inch foam board, valleys, rivers and such would be easy to accomplish.

I like your idea. Is there any chance that you could take the layout plan, draw
in your suggestions and post it here or email it to me? That would make it much
easier to visualize it.
I sure like the idea of having 2 towns on different elevations.
Thanks!
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Posted by selector on Sunday, July 3, 2005 8:24 PM
It looks fine to me, quite compact and interesting. I see no obvious problems, and think that you must have either some experience or guidance in this...?

What do you have planned for the big open space near left centre, where those two spurs dead-end?
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Posted by oleirish on Sunday, July 3, 2005 7:31 PM
I like it,now same design in H.O.I wonder what the width and length would be?OH sorry just thinking!![^][bow]Real nice work[(-D][:-,]
JIM
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Posted by grandeman on Sunday, July 3, 2005 7:28 PM
Looks good. Will you have access all the way around? If so, you could relocate the industrial spur by the turntable a little and have a double sided backdrop diagonally across the layout. This would give you two separate towns (or a town and an industry) and break up the "going in a circle" look. You could use WS risers in the curves to climb to one town and decend to the other. If the whole works was on two inch foam board, valleys, rivers and such would be easy to accomplish.
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New layout. Please let me hear your suggestions.
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 3, 2005 6:18 PM
Hi, guys!

I am redesigning my 3x6 N scale layout with Peco c55 track and turnouts.
I think I finally got a plan that I can use, but I sure would like to hear your
suggestions for improvements, if any.

Thanks!


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