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Lift Out Sections
Posted by rlb51 on Monday, January 23, 2023 11:46 AM

I'd appreciate any advice on building a lift out section that would be higher than the rest of the layout. Thanks!

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, January 23, 2023 3:29 PM

Wecome aboard!  Welcome

How big a lift-off?  How high should it be above the rest of the layout?  What is your construction method and type of benchmark and subroadbed?

I have a number of lift-offs, mostly small ones for access to underground tracks.  I have one large one.  My bench work is ordinary wood framework.  The large lift-off is a section of pink foam, which is strong enough to provide a single piece of lift-off with roads, structures and scenery.  I designed my track plan to have no tracks on the lift-off. 

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Posted by selector on Monday, January 23, 2023 5:32 PM

I have only ever had one, and it worked really well.  It wasn't heavy, a big plus, but it was rigid and robust.  

It should be set upon four metal screws, and the 'feet' of the bridge should also be metal, maybe cabinet braces.  This way, you can get excellent alignment as things shift over time, or seasonally, and the two touching metals on four corners will power the bridge rails at one or both ends.

You build it and get the screw heights adjusted into the supporting 'abutments' so that the rails across the gaps meet at grade. You can use pieces of framing shims to get lateral alignment, or use angled pieces of metal or wood in a sleeve that the bridge ends slide into.

The metal 'shoes' get soldered feeders that split and run up to the rails if there are twinned tracks.  The screws have the bared ends of wire feeders that are fed from the nearby bus wrapped around their threaded shanks.

This may sound a little hap-hazard, but the wrapped wire arrangement worked flawlessly on three separate bridge arrangements of mine so far, for a total of 14 years.

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:54 AM

I'm not sure this is on-topic to your posting.  I assume we are talking about lift outs which give access to portions of the layout which are not easily accessed from the aisle.  From a purely visual standpoint (as opposed to a practical standpoint) because even with the best disguises the edges of the lift out are usually somewhat visisble, the best ones I have seen avoided having straight edges, but had rounded edges, more like a big, well, sombrero.  I think the mind's eye sees perfect straight edges as man-made and hence obtrusive.  

Dave Nelson

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:37 AM

What type of lift out?   And why higher than the rest of the layout?
shane

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:07 PM

Sorry.  I noticed you're in New Member Purgatory.  You are being moderated, which is why posts aren't showing up.  This, too, shall pass.  The mods are doing a good job of keeping trolls under their bridges, so be patient.  This happens to every new member.  You are not selected for Super Double-secret Probation.

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Posted by NScale4x8 on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 9:00 PM

Lift out section

Lift out section

Other lift out section

Lift out section

I just started adding grass and sidewalks to the lift out sections today, so please overlook the mess.

More information at https://nscale4by8.github.io/nscale4x8/Scenery/liftOutSections/liftOut.html

https://nscale4by8.github.io/nscale4x8/

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 9:39 PM

rlb51

I'd appreciate any advice on building a lift out section that would be higher than the rest of the layout. Thanks!

 
If it's higher than the rest of the layout, I'm guessing that no track is needed on the lift-out.
I have two lift-outs at the entry door to my layout...
 
...but the upper one connects only to dead-end tracks for staging and/or storage.
 
There are similar tracks below the upper one, but the lower lift-out is used mainly for continuous running on the lower level of the layout.
 
Wayne
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Posted by TrainzLuvr on Friday, January 27, 2023 8:08 PM

If you have the height, then build it into a door frame like so using simple drawer slides (NOT the soft close ones) inside the door jambs:

This raises high enough for most people under 6 ft, and a nod under for those above 6 ft. Benchwork was at 54" off the floor in this case but depending on the drawer slides used, you can have it go to any height.

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