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Version 5 of The CB&Q in Wyoming

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, July 3, 2022 9:41 PM

Hi Mark,

The operating session looks like it was a lot of fun. Well done.

Dave

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Posted by tankertoad135 on Monday, July 4, 2022 2:08 PM

Mark,

Your monthly and annual updates were absolutely fantastic.  Your ability to plan and carry out your layout plans are something we should all aspire to!Cowboy

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Posted by Pruitt on Sunday, July 10, 2022 6:53 PM

Thanks Dave, tankertoad135!

10 July 2022

Since my last photo update of 14 June (wow! Nearly a month ago!) I've continued working on scenery between Casper and into the south end of Wind River Canyon.

I patched that cut-away spot above the rock face:

And went on to add some more rock castings. These will all be blended together with additional plaster, then stain and paints:

I continued brushing on a layer of hydrocal over the plaster cloth in the canyon, getting to this point on 18 June:

I can't go further right now because the plaster cloth that's still exposed is only one layer. I'll add a second layer when I get more cloth, then continue brushing on the hydrocal.

Wyoming has a lot of sagebrush, so it was about time I started to figure out how to make it. Going on a suggestion from someone on another forum, I bought a small block of florist foam ($1.99 at Hobby Lobby) and ground it up in a blender (orange juice is going to taste funny for awhile!):

I cut a tiny length of sisal twine, glued the threads together at the base, and dipped it into a Hunterline weathering solution to make the branches of the sagebrush:

Then I sprayed it with Super 77 adhesive and dipped it in the bag of ground up florist foam. The leaves were a bit glittery, so I sprayed the bush with Dullcote and propped it up on the layout to see how it looked. Pardon the slightly blurry look in the photo - the camera focused on the blue tape behind the sagebrush:

Not terrible I think, but there's room for improvement. It should look more like the sagebrush in the foreground here:

But hey, it's a start. 

To get a sense of how much I need, here's a zoomed-out shot of the Powder River / Wind River Canyon section of the layout. The red circle is where that sagebrush is:

Boy, I need a whole more of this stuff!!!

The last week I've been focusing on coating the area between Casper and Shobon, including the Powder River siding area, with plaster in preparation for ground cover (and sagebrush):

The areas nearest the roundhouse are still wet. The color from one batch to the next doesn't match exactly, but this will all be covered with tile grout dirt, spotty prairie grass and other scattered foliage, plus lots (and lots and LOTS) of sagebrush, so the differences in the plaster colors shouldn't be noticeable.

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Posted by pt714 on Monday, July 11, 2022 6:07 PM

Great update, Mark. I'm enjoying dropping in here from time to time and watching everything take shape.

Pruitt

Boy, I need a whole more of this stuff!!!

I model southern CO, where sagebrush also abounds. I've tried a bunch of sagebrush techniques, and like the sisal rope (it's great for huge WY brush, I think I first saw it as an O scale technique.) The approach that has fit my needs best so far for smaller brush came from Rob Spangler-- as I remember it, he used 3M grey scrubbing pads that were cut up, pulled and teased apart to make the branch structure, then Super 77 and a sprinkle of the right sage-color ground foam. That might be a good way to make a lot of brush quickly, so you can get that vast expanse covered!

 

Phil

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, July 19, 2022 9:07 AM

Thanks Phil!

I checked out Rob's approach to sagebrush. I'm going to give it a try.

19 July 2022

I just posted a video on how I added wifi to my layout:

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, July 19, 2022 11:18 PM

Pruitt
I just posted a video on how I added wifi to my layout:

Hi Mark,

That was a very interesting and well done video. Thank you.

I do have one small question. Why are the left and right marker lights on the caboose controlled separately? I have always assumed that both lights would show the same indication. Am I wrong?

Thanks,

Dave

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 7:40 AM

Mark, thank you for convincing me to never add Wi-Fi on my iPhone to run my trains. Bow

I should mention that I am a graduate of the Sheldon School of Model Railroading. Laugh

Rich

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:26 AM

hon30critter
Hi Mark,

That was a very interesting and well done video. Thank you.

I do have one small question. Why are the left and right marker lights on the caboose controlled separately? I have always assumed that both lights would show the same indication. Am I wrong?

Thanks,

Dave

Thanks Dave.

Both markers do show the same indication. The Light It will only drive one LED per output, so it takes two outputs, which by default are functions 1 and 2. The outputs can be remapped to a different function number, but as far as I know both outputs cannot be mapped to the same function. So each marker is activated by a different function.

richhotrain
Mark, thank you for convincing me to never add Wi-Fi on my iPhone to run my trains.

Rich, I don't particularly like running trains with my phone either. But for less than the price of one radio throttle (Cab06er), I have the capability to connect four wireless throttles that are more reliable (in terms of reception and transmission) than the radio units. Pretty much everybody who might come over to operate will have a smart phone, so they're all carrying throttles in their pockets, whether they know it or not.

For the future I plan to purchase at least one of the TCS UWT-50's for use at home and at the club.

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, July 23, 2022 7:04 AM

Pruitt
Both markers do show the same indication. The Light It will only drive one LED per output, so it takes two outputs, which by default are functions 1 and 2. The outputs can be remapped to a different function number, but as far as I know both outputs cannot be mapped to the same function. So each marker is activated by a different function.

I have to say that I find it a bit disappointing that the Light It can only handle a single LED per output. LEDs do not draw a lot of power so I will suggest politely that they need to up their game (no criticism of your use of the module intended).

In my cabooses I use a circuit designed by Mark R which delivers constant lighting to the marker lights as well as a light inside the conductor's cubicle. The lights are controlled by a magnetic latching reed switch.

Here is the wiring diagram:

The fact that the capacitor is rated lower than the track voltage doesn't matter, but you can use a higher voltage capacitor if you choose. The reed switch is optional. You could use a manual switch. In fact, finding the latching magnetic reed switches may prove to be rather difficult given the age of the technology.

I'm not suggesting that you change your methodology, but my option may prove interesting for some viewers.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, August 3, 2022 8:10 PM

3 August 2022

I just uploaded my latest layout update video:

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, August 4, 2022 4:40 AM

Roof1 by Bear, on Flickr

 

Nicely done, Mark. I’m not sure if you were going for subtlety, but if you were, you’ve nailed it.Thumbs UpThumbs Up
Thanks for Her-in-Doors and my monthly CB & Q fix.
 
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, August 4, 2022 10:32 AM

Hi Mark,

Another interesting video! The pallet company looks good! I don't envy your having to make so much sage brush, but you have a great work ethic so I'm sure it won't take you long.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by Pruitt on Sunday, August 7, 2022 9:09 PM

Thanks Bear, Dave! I was afraid the roof looked too garish. "Subtle" never crossed my mind.

7 August 2022

The past few days I've spent ripping two sheets of 3/4" plywood down to 3" wide strips (in a stiflingly hot garage!). and building most of the benchwork for the Worland / Greybull peninsula.

There's one small section left to add in the foreground, plus a couple more legs. Tomorrow, maybe.

I also have spent a couple hours adding static grass in a small area just west of Casper. This is only the first layer. Yet to coe are low bushes, weeds and sagebrush. Hopefully it get more realistic as I go.

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:03 PM

16 August 2022

The last nine days have seen some progress on the layout, notably on the Worland / Greybull peninsula.

On the 8th I finished the benchwork by adding the last section (nearest the camera). Now it's ready for some subroadbed and track!

On the 14th I carved subroadbed out of a couple of sheets of 1/2" plywood and began test fitting them flat on the benchwork.

I was going to begin building the subroadbed for Worland, but common sense prevailed (unusual in my train room!) and I began working on the Cody branch first, which will be located underneath Worland and Greybull. 

On the 15th I connected all the subroadbed pieces together and began raising the line to the proper elevations. In the following photo, in the far distance (the curve to the right to nowhere), the line dives under Greybull and Worland (coming towards the camera) with just under 4" of clearance. It descends on a 2 1/4% grade all around the peninsula.

Today I finished the subroadbed underneath Worland and through the tunback curve.

My track plan has Powell (the first town on the Cody branch out of Frannie) on a deck below Powder River, but depending on how the clearances look I may move it to under Greybull instead. I think the clearance to Greybull will be too low to work well, but we'll see how it looks once I have the Worland to Greybull turnback curve in place.

After the benchwork was finished but before I started the subroadbed I paused for a few days to build this tank car kit from Intermountain Railway. This was a series of special kits manufactured for the NMRA's Rocky Mountain Regoin back in 2002. I "inherited" five of the kits from someone who decided they weren't going to use them. This is the first one, all weathered and ready to go. Looks like that baby has a few miles on it!

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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, September 3, 2022 10:55 PM

3 September 2022

I posted this month's layout update:

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:16 PM

Hi Mark,

Your videos continue to hold my interest. I look forward to them every month!

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:49 AM
Thanks again Mark for the update. Always good to see progress, besides Her-in-Doors finds your presentation style very presentable. I agree and not just because I have too to keep in her good books!!
 
Cheers, the Bear.Smile
 
MOCX by Bear, on Flickr

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:55 AM

Finally a decent looking shirt, but I would expect no less from the Casper Division Public Relations Manager.  Smile, Wink & Grin

With all due respect to a few other forum members with outstanding layouts, yours surpasses all the others in my personal view. The construction of the layout, its sheer size, and the video updates all combine to capture my interest like no other.

If the forum were presenting awards for Outstanding Layout, yours would get my vote. I hope that you never actually finish the layout because I would miss your video updates. I bet your buddy Dave is shaking in his boots as your layout progresses. 

Rich

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Posted by tankertoad135 on Sunday, September 4, 2022 1:15 PM

Another outstanding video Mr. Pruitt!!  You continue to astound me with your dedicated approach to layout construction and ensuring quality in your work.  Your videos are a definite motivation for others of us regarding how to plan and build a model railroad!! Bow

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, September 5, 2022 10:52 PM

Thanks Dave, Rich (partially) and Don!

Bear, I'll be reporting your family to the EPA, so they can keep an eye on any US relatives.

Rich, don't get used to it - next month I'll be back to the same old grungy clothes I usually wear. Thanks for the very kind words otherwise Cool! After the comments from you and Don, my ego is threatening to explode like an overinflated balloon!

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, September 6, 2022 7:16 AM

pt714

I model southern CO, where sagebrush also abounds. I've tried a bunch of sagebrush techniques, and like the sisal rope (it's great for huge WY brush, I think I first saw it as an O scale technique.) The approach that has fit my needs best so far for smaller brush came from Rob Spangler-- as I remember it, he used 3M grey scrubbing pads that were cut up, pulled and teased apart to make the branch structure, then Super 77 and a sprinkle of the right sage-color ground foam. That might be a good way to make a lot of brush quickly, so you can get that vast expanse covered!

Phil

Same here except western CO into eastern Utah:

Rio Grande.  The Action Road  - Focus 1977-1983

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