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Posted by Erie1951 on Monday, December 31, 2018 11:18 AM

Masterful scenery work, Wickman! Thumbs Up I particularly like the way that you've modeled the rocks and water. Wow

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Posted by robert sylvester on Monday, December 31, 2018 10:59 AM

Wink I sure like the town in the horseshoe curve with some nice looking buildings. Sometimes I think it would be nice to live in a place like that. In fact sometimes when I am visualizing scenery, I try to think, if I would like to be in miniature and be able to walk the streets or the roads in that scene, even the houses, sitting on the front porch.

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Maybe eating at the White Castle, 

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Or the Greyhound Bus Station. I can still remember when those two places were the best places to eat.

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, February 23, 2016 9:08 PM

Hi Walt yes I made them  myself  from a mold from plaster of paris. Whenever I have pop left over I pour the extra in a wall mold so there always ready.

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Posted by HObbyguy on Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:42 PM

Wow you are blazing along!

I see you decided on stone wall abutments.  Curious- what are they made from and did you make them yourself?

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:28 PM
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Posted by wickman on Friday, February 12, 2016 11:35 PM
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Posted by wickman on Friday, February 12, 2016 11:27 PM

Dave , Henry thanks for the compliments. Henry   the goop really isn't that expensive, I tend to go through quite a bit of it although I sometimes wonder why I use it as by the  time I'm done the scene  you can  barely see the  ground goop.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, February 12, 2016 8:15 PM

Hi Lynn:

The rocks look great!.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, February 12, 2016 5:20 PM

I'm new to this thread and bowled over by your work. I'm certain I could duplicate the pile under the layout in the earlier pics.  Big Smile

I missed the recipe for your goop.  It looks a bit like the stuff they were demo'ing at Timonium a cotton product that was supposedly reusable if it dried out.  It was $$$ I thought. 

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Posted by wickman on Friday, February 12, 2016 4:54 PM

A bit more of the progress, rock  molds applied and I used a brown wash which will mark the locations that vegetation will grow. After the brown wash  I applied ground goop and some fine sand/gravel.

 

 

 

My 5  gallon supply of brown   latex paint.

 

 

Wash made  up 

 

 

The goop  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, February 7, 2016 1:17 PM
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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:10 PM
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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:53 PM
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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:09 PM

Thought I'd give an update of the couple structures I started a few years back that I finally dedicated some time to completing.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Friday, December 4, 2015 10:54 PM

Only functional as a.decoration.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, December 4, 2015 10:32 PM

I take it then that the lights are non-functional.

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Posted by wickman on Friday, December 4, 2015 10:15 PM

Thanks Dave , everything you see came with the kit.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, December 4, 2015 9:58 PM

Lynn:

The station looks really good with all the details in place.

Where did you get the lamps that are on the posts and the building, and do they work?

Thanks

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Posted by wickman on Friday, December 4, 2015 7:55 PM

Cougar Flat Station is complete... finally.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Monday, November 30, 2015 11:03 PM

Thanks Dave.Wink

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, November 30, 2015 10:57 PM

Lynn:

The station is neat if a bit unusual.

Nicely done.

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Posted by wickman on Monday, November 30, 2015 5:59 PM

Thanks Walt I will get back to the trestle when I get back to working on the layout. I'm just finishing up the train station and I need to complete a few of he other structures that will be in the wharf area.

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Posted by HObbyguy on Monday, November 30, 2015 5:21 PM

Wow Lynn you were busy while I was off the grid!  And I totally missed the trestle project while you were going at it.  My (much smaller) trestle was also built from the JV kit and I really enjoyed the build.  Sort of a cross between a craftsman kit and scratch-building, with just enough instructions to get you going.

Getting all the bents on the ground and keeping the bridge removable is challenging with a trestle since there are so many legs.  And in most of the pics I've seen the vertical poles were just driven into the ground- that's the way the one I found at the golf course last week was built.  Even with the heavy creosote coating it seems like the wood would rot away rather quickly but that bridge is still being used, so maybe not.

I would try sculptamold or some of your ground goop if it is "gooey" enough to work and still get a good hard set.  Maybe you can lay down some wax paper strips on top of the sculptamold before pressing the bridge in place, and then slide the strips out when the sculptamold is cured?  I never tried the wax paper trick with sculptamold so I would test first, but not much really sticks to it very well and I keep a roll around for this sort of thing.

 

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, November 29, 2015 4:12 PM

Ive been working on a train station for the wharf area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:30 PM

hon30critter

Lynn:

Is the trestle still removable or is it fixed in place?

If it is still removable then perhaps you could form bases for the 'floating' bents with sculptamold or plaster and then set the trestle back in place while the material is still wet.

If the trestle is fixed in place how about attaching a tube to the end of a white glue bottle so you can reach into the narrow spaces. White glue would take several applications to build up enough to fill the gaps. Maybe someone can suggest something thicker which would fill the gaps better.

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Thanks Dave it is removable but also wired in place but that is a good idea with the sculptamold or I can use ground goop and lift a bit on the bents or simply disconnect the rail ends and do it the easy way.Big Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:53 AM

Lynn:

Is the trestle still removable or is it fixed in place?

If it is still removable then perhaps you could form bases for the 'floating' bents with sculptamold or plaster and then set the trestle back in place while the material is still wet.

If the trestle is fixed in place how about attaching a tube to the end of a white glue bottle so you can reach into the narrow spaces. White glue would take several applications to build up enough to fill the gaps. Maybe someone can suggest something thicker which would fill the gaps better.

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Posted by wickman on Monday, October 5, 2015 10:22 PM

No prob Dave , you are quite right for the most part the bent bottoms are flush and solid but there are some that need attention,Im not quite sure how I'm going to finish them and the area off but they will be getting my full attention very soon.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, October 5, 2015 9:15 PM

Nice Lynn!

The boat shop is really well done. The weathering is very realistic.Bow

The trestle is great, however, its still floating in mid air!Smile, Wink & GrinClown. Must be a magic trestle!

Sorry, I'm not being critical at all. I'm absolutely certain that you intend to fill in the gaps below the bents once the rest of the scene is finished.

Your work is excellent.

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Posted by wickman on Monday, October 5, 2015 12:58 PM

Bit of   an update  as fall  is on us and it RR time again. These  are some pics of my accomplishments  throughout the year when time  allowed.

Boat repair I built

pics of the trestle installed and water poured  along  with waterfalls,  I also did a fresh pour  on the river above.

Walls up in wharf area 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Carnegie Falls on Thursday, February 5, 2015 10:24 AM

That's coming along nicely.  Very well done - thanks for the detailed posts and photos.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:22 PM
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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, February 4, 2015 4:26 PM

Did some work  to get the space between the sofit and rail  filled in  and found  that the plaster  cloth itself gave a pretty  good foundation to  start to build up the  terrain.  Been on holidays  in nice warm  Cuba so   here's  a bit of an update now with the process to  getting to the  plaster cloth base.

 

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Posted by wickman on Monday, January 19, 2015 5:55 PM

Last section installed until I do  the last section of benchwork.Now to decide on terrain height and trim down the fascia  where its  needed. Time to do a  cleanup and reorganize for doing some jig  saw cutting.




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Posted by wickman on Monday, January 19, 2015 2:55 PM

reklein

Thats lookin really good Wickman,Looks like you have a pretty cool collection of buildings too. I'm also liking the way you have stayed motivated and are proceeding on this big project in a timely manner.  As for myself I keep getting distracted by other modeling projects suac as ships for the past year. Bill in Idaho

 

Thanks Bill.  If it  were spring/summer my wife  and I both ride old Harley's  and we would be out on the road and not playing in the layout  room  so on my days off I plow forward. I also have an old 63 Vespa in the  shop I've been restoring thats calling for attention.Big Smile

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Posted by reklein on Monday, January 19, 2015 2:46 PM

Thats lookin really good Wickman,Looks like you have a pretty cool collection of buildings too. I'm also liking the way you have stayed motivated and are proceeding on this big project in a timely manner.  As for myself I keep getting distracted by other modeling projects suac as ships for the past year. Bill in Idaho

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Posted by wickman on Monday, January 19, 2015 12:37 PM

A  bit more done. I find  you really have  to figure things out with putting  this stuff  up, have to make sure there are no seams where there  is  any stress.I will need to add on to the bench work in  the near future so I can finish  off to the  wall. This  will be the turntable area.


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Posted by wickman on Sunday, January 18, 2015 9:56 PM

One of the two layout rooms is pretty much done.  Just need to workout how to  trim  the tops down for the terrain.Sure makes a major impact on the layout and will make it much simpler to fill in from the  edge of layout  inward.







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Posted by wickman on Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:51 AM

Did a bit more work into the corner to get the area filled in. I tried useing some new to me stuff which is called tuf coat for mold making and not really liking it as it doesn't seem to take the ws colors like the pop does. Just need to do the raods a bit more and come back with bushes and trees. I'll have to go back in a few days and try to color up the rocks a bit more. I also attempted to attach the industry spur to the turnout and found the turnout rail was way out of guage, damn loose rail, so changed out the turnout to another and all good except I need to redo the throw wire for the tortoise.








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Posted by wickman on Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:15 PM
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Posted by wickman on Friday, January 9, 2015 9:30 PM

hon30critter

Lynn:

The trestle area scenery is outstanding!

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 9, 2015 8:42 PM

Lynn:

The trestle area scenery is outstanding!

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Posted by wickman on Friday, January 9, 2015 5:09 AM

I finally  got around to filling in the area  a  bit, there will be a road going up the hill and over a bridge. Not  sure  what I'm doing  with the lower area, its a bit too flat for my liking.

 

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Friday, January 9, 2015 5:08 AM

HO60s

Great work, wish I had your creative talent.

 

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Posted by HO60s on Saturday, January 3, 2015 7:25 PM

Great work, wish I had your creative talent.

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, January 3, 2015 6:33 PM

Puttering along  with the scenery. I was hoping to pour the water but its just not practical having to get the next  area joined in first.

I also added retaining walls to the river banks  under the trestle.

This will be the next area to be joined up

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, January 1, 2015 6:38 PM

Got a bit of time in on scenery. I reached as far as I could and will have to work from the other end.
Looks like I need to spend some  time making somemore ground foam and blended debri.


 

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, December 27, 2014 1:08 PM

I mixed up a fresh batch of my ground goop  and I'm attempting to  get into  the mood of scenicing up the trestle area. 

No ground goop in  the next 2 shots  but more a  trial run with building up in layers. I also added some color to the rock work.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:17 PM

NP2626

Wow!  Lynn, how far along on this trestle were you when you started adking questions about how to build it?  You seem to be a very fast builder!  I think I took at least a month to build my trestlen which was much smaller than yours.  Great Job!  Are those plaster rock castings, or something else?

 

Thanks Mark it only took  me a couple weeks from start to finish .  All  castings are fresh plaster cast.

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Posted by NP2626 on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:47 PM

Wow!  Lynn, how far along on this trestle were you when you started adking questions about how to build it?  You seem to be a very fast builder!  I think I took at least a month to build my trestle which was much smaller than yours.  Great Job!  Are those plaster rock castings, or something else?

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 5:10 PM

Spent the last couple days moving forward on the trestle area. I  still have a very long way to  go. I layed down some ground goop for the trestle to get it seated right and saran wrapped the  bent leg footings, I sit it in place and built up where it showed a space and once it sit nice and rail was level inward I left it  in place  overnite then removed and  replace  then shook some ws dirt and ground foam on it then a shake of sifted dirt.
The rock castings will have to wait a few days before getting painted as there still holding water.

New hills added to  break the flatness.

Another mound and dirt road started

Bridge in place for the photo

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:28 PM

I got the waterfall area buttoned up pretty tight with a nice cardboard weave and started on some plaster cloth. I'll give the plaster cloth a skim of plaster when the entire area is complete.

 

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:58 PM

Glad your seeing something new Dave. I wish I had seen  somethng like this before I started, real learning curve but it is fun. 

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:33 PM

Lynn:

The trestle looks really good!

This is the first time I have seen all the intricate steps involved in both building and installing a trestle. Very educating! Thanks.

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:45 PM

I did get  started with joining  up the areas  using cardboard strips and hot glue ( ouch a few times) I'm only concerned with the trestle being supported well which it is and the rest is just for looks. I'm still not sure how I will do the outside perimeter of the benchwork  but that will have to come eventually. I may have to do it the extra heavy duty way and build the ends of the trestle and lower base out to the existing benchwork, more wood but at least it would be even  if I decide to use the hardboard. 


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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:04 PM

Is it me  or is this the way a crazy person figures things out? Tempted to get  some grocery  bags stuffed with  crumpled paper for support and  stuff them under the paper and  start putting down plaster cloth.

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:30 PM

With the bent supports in place and bridge  roughly in place I 'm going to see  if I can tie  the ends of the bench  work into the scene. As you can see I also removed  the bottom diagonal braces, looked too goofy for me. Will add sway braces when  I get somemore wood.
Bridge sitting in place

I used  card stock  to give a rough in  for the hill over the bent supports. white glue and staples.

Bridge back in place for test fit. Just enough clearance under the bents to  add plaster cloth and  build up  a bit.

And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom  base.

 

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:30 PM

Thanks Bear

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:55 AM

That's one fine looking trestle bridge. Thumbs Up

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Posted by wickman on Monday, December 15, 2014 6:15 PM

Cut out the roadbed for a trial  fit and once the  mainline was lined up and fit nicely I started on  the bent pillars.

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:25 PM

Was up late last nite  and  pretty  much got  the trestle  complete. I'm  still undecided on whether I will add sway braces. Also attempted  to even pickup a nbw and needless  to  say my mobility skills and sight are nothing  what  they use to be. May  attempt to  cut the trestle into  the existing roadbed today  to at least  have that part done and  have the trestle removeable for  scene work.

 

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:56 AM

hon30critter

Very impressive!

Don't drop it when you turn it right side up!Smile, Wink & GrinClownLaughLaughLaugh

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:49 AM

Very impressive!

Don't drop it when you turn it right side up!Smile, Wink & GrinClownLaughLaughLaugh

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:01 AM

Just have to finish  off supports.

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, December 13, 2014 10:07 PM

Moving right along with  the trestle, four days off so I should be able to finish this off  I hope.

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Posted by wickman on Friday, December 12, 2014 4:40 AM

hon30critter

Lynn:

Thank you for sharing all of the trestle construction details. I have a similar project in my future. This has been very educational.

Dave

 

Your quite welcome Dave, its my pleasure and has also been very educational for myself.Big Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, December 12, 2014 3:25 AM

Lynn:

Thank you for sharing all of the trestle construction details. I have a similar project in my future. This has been very educational.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:39 PM

And the fun begins

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:37 PM

Trial fit for bent over river,  this won't work need  to  do some trimming.I hate math.

Rail was attched  to stringers using pliobond and weighted down, left  it for 48 hours.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:01 AM

Thanks Rob  kinda sounded good to  me as well and the instructions really don't say much.

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Posted by wp8thsub on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:10 PM

wickman
Any advice once I go  to  install the bents? Perhaps start in the middle or end ?  Glue one bent checking  for straightness then the next and  the supports maybe?

Assuming the kit instructions don't suggest a sequence, that sounds reasonable.  Pick a spot and work from there.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:49 PM

EmbarrassedIf its  just aesthetics issue I can handle that, Im real good  at hiding stuff. Embarrassed

Any advice once I go  to  install the bents? Perhaps start in the middle or end ?  Glue one bent checking  for straightness then the next and  the supports maybe?

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Posted by wp8thsub on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:44 AM

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So your saying when I centre the bents on the seams of the stringers the outside bent caps will line up as obviously I  will  be trying to line up every 2 inches which is the length of each stringer where as the outside bent will sit on a seam and the inside of the bent will not sit on the seam? Hopefully this doesn't cause any issues as long as the track rail is over the inside\outside rail and the bent caps line up ok. Unfortuneatly it was last  nite at 3am when I set the rail on the stringers permanently so no adjustments can be made.

Yup that's it.  This is an aesthetic issue for an HO scale trestle more than a structural one.  Hopefully it will be hard to notice once you have everything installed.

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:44 PM

wp8thsub
 
wickman

 

 

I see an issue with the stringers, but it may be too late to correct.  It appears you cut the pieces for the inside of the curve the same length as those for the outside.  As a result, the joints for the inside stringers will not fall atop a bent like the outside ones will.  I didn't mention the need for the the two lengths in my advice on the other thread, so to the extent I may have sowed confusion on the point - my bad.  I was figuring the kit instructions and/or plans would have shown the joints.

 

Thanks Rob I see what you mean I think. So your saying when I centre the bents on the seams of the stringers the outside bent caps will line up as obviously I  will  be trying to line up every 2 inches which is the length of each stringer where as the outside bent will sit on a seam and the inside of the bent will not sit on the seam? Hopefully this doesn't cause any issues as long as the track rail is over the inside\outside rail and the bent caps line up ok. Unfortuneatly it was last  nite at 3am when I set the rail on the stringers permanently so no adjustments can be made.

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Posted by wp8thsub on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:14 PM

wickman

I see an issue with the stringers, but it may be too late to correct.  It appears you cut the pieces for the inside of the curve the same length as those for the outside.  As a result, the joints for the inside stringers will not fall atop a bent like the outside ones will.  I didn't mention the need for the the two lengths in my advice on the other thread, so to the extent I may have sowed confusion on the point - my bad.  I was figuring the kit instructions and/or plans would have shown the joints.

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Posted by wickman on Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:45 PM
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Posted by wickman on Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:58 AM

I also received a supply of ME bridge flex track in the mail. I think it may be time to finish up the bents and start on the stringers. 

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:55 AM

I'm still working on  getting the bents  spacing figured out,  I've got it down to  2- 2.5 inches apart for the most part. May have to make somemore and perhaps shorten  a couple of the longest ones. I find this process is like structure positioning, you have to keep repositioning until it feels right.

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:15 PM
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Posted by wickman on Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:38 PM

Thanks everyone for the comments. I'll be doing an update on progress in next  couple of days.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, November 27, 2014 4:49 PM

Now no offence but some of you methods seem a bit odd but your outcome is spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by bing&kathy on Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:31 PM

mobilman44

Hi,

May I offer a suggestion............

I have a window similar to the one in the pics.   I replaced the white mini blinds with light blue ones, and painted in the backdrop to blend into the window ledge, etc.

It proved to be a good thing to do, and you might want to consider it. 

 

Another suggestion is to paint the backdrop onto the blinds. Even done halfway decent most people won't notice it versus a chunk of missing background.

 

P.S. Hope you have given some thought as to how to replace/repair the furnace and water heater.My 2 Cents

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Posted by Mario1 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:23 PM

Hi Lynn

Just checked out the thread. WOW Man! Its coming along very nicely. You got a lot of real estate. Nice work keep the pics coming.

Mario

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Posted by wickman on Friday, November 14, 2014 1:50 PM
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Posted by wickman on Monday, November 10, 2014 2:14 PM

double post

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:52 AM

I've been working  on the little community in the corner, we all know we have to work back to front. I think I will need to make some fences and work on a better game plan for parking  area.

I also tried my hand at making a new water form for the waterfalls. Took a few  days but it did cure clear. I had made up 3 strips so I'll have  to peel off another strip and tuck it under the upper level strip and try my hand at some white dry brushing.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:26 PM

Transformed the gorge using ground goop, poly fiber, and a bunch of sticks twigs and ground up leaves oh ya and ground foam.Can even see the river bottom again. I'll be fixing up the waterfalls real soon.




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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:56 PM

I've been plugging along in one particular corner and outward from it as it is a deep corner and as we all know we need to build from back to front. Bridges are removed and my vision of a small town on the hill is perhaps starting to get some where.










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Posted by wickman on Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:53 AM

Joe I never get offeneded so no worries. The main line has been tested extensively for hours and hours and adjusted as needed. I've tested with very small steamers to fairly larger steamers, I had thought steamers would be the bearer of bad track but it was one specific deisel that really showed a couple bad switches that I had to fix. The missing ties will be trimmed down and slid under the rails and in place as I go. I  tend not to ballast for at least a year after track has been in place. Scenery is done from the back to front obviously and the area I'm in must be completed before the bridges can be left in place. Branch lines and industry spurs come last as I try to figure out where specifically the structures will go. For me this is a very large layout and because I'm not retired and work 4 and 4 I don't go full steam ahead like many folks as well in the summer months we ride motorcycles.

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:22 AM

dominic c

It looks like you have a big project ahead of yourself. But I'm sorry if you get offended, but looking at your track, it's hard to believe that all your engines run perfectly well. It looks to me that your track is not completey done. What about the missing ties? You have incomplete branches to your switches.What happens after ballasting? It seems more work has to go into your trackwork. I'm in that group that thinks the track has to be completely done and engines are happy in every direction before I can concentrate on scenery

Joe C

 

I saw nothing mentioned about poor running track. Track can bad but look good, I have the end of a curved bridge that look crooked, it was an optical illusion because of the way it was soldered and then the runng sides were filed.

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Posted by dominic c on Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:11 AM

It looks like you have a big project ahead of yourself. But I'm sorry if you get offended, but looking at your track, it's hard to believe that all your engines run perfectly well. It looks to me that your track is not completey done. What about the missing ties? You have incomplete branches to your switches.What happens after ballasting? It seems more work has to go into your trackwork. I'm in that group that thinks the track has to be completely done and engines are happy in every direction before I can concentrate on scenery

Joe C

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:27 PM


Four ingredients measured at 1 cup  each of celluclay ( paper mache),  vermiculite, paint and 1/2 cup white glue. I did mine in a much larger batch  to fill the bucket.


All ingredients in pail

Mix to smooth consistency

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:27 PM

Thanks Dave winter is coming.

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:26 PM

Lynn:

The bridges look really good!

Lots of progress on the layout too. Well done.

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, October 18, 2014 7:22 PM

After getting the track reworked and tested again I started reworking the corner where there will be a small bit of structures. Please excuse the mess as its a on going work in progress.
 Random pics.

 

I got an excellent clearance price for this plaster cloth from curry's. I picked up a number of cans.

Pulled out the 5 gallon pail of paint I havent used for quite a few years for making my ground goop concoction.

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Posted by wickman on Monday, October 6, 2014 4:34 PM

mobilman44

Hi,

May I offer a suggestion............

I have a window similar to the one in the pics.   I replaced the white mini blinds with light blue ones, and painted in the backdrop to blend into the window ledge, etc.

It proved to be a good thing to do, and you might want to consider it. 

 

Thnaks for the suggestion.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Monday, October 6, 2014 5:31 AM

Hi,

May I offer a suggestion............

I have a window similar to the one in the pics.   I replaced the white mini blinds with light blue ones, and painted in the backdrop to blend into the window ledge, etc.

It proved to be a good thing to do, and you might want to consider it. 

ENJOY  !

 

Mobilman44

 

Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central 

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Posted by wickman on Sunday, October 5, 2014 6:53 PM

Puttering along like a  slow chicken with his head cut off I managed to get the jmri talking to the digitrax command station, finished off some feeder drops to the buss, and did some cleanup programming in the ds64's. jmri doesnt lie with what is not right so got some board addresses worked out. As well I finally got the ds64 board mounted off the benchwork out of the way, just have to shorten and  reattach the wires to each ds64.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, October 2, 2014 1:07 PM

I managed to get two bridges built and  installed. Cleanup time  and back  to finishing wiring a couple more tortoise switches and onto track cleaning.

 

I  also had to cookie cut a  new incline to the dioramma base as the turnout  just wasn't lining up nicely. As  well the tunnel portals are in much better positioning.

 

 

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Posted by wickman on Friday, September 26, 2014 3:06 AM

Santa Fe all the way!
Nice work, I'll be following your progress. Suggestion, Sky Blue craft foam board is pretty cheap and I think if you used it to cover the windows it would look nice. Also you can easily make them removable. Keep up the good work!!
 

Thats actually not a bad idea with the blue foam board and I just happen to have a few sheets kicking around. Will have  to see,

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Posted by wickman on Friday, September 26, 2014 3:05 AM

hon30critter

Very accurate work! It probably took longer to build the jig than it will to build the bridge using it. Don't take me wrong - I'm not critizing the use of the jig.

Dave

 

Your quite correct Dave, the second bottom went together in literally 15 minutes and the second side went together  like nothing. I did  enjoy  making  the  jig  though and  using MEK with  the styrene   made things  move along sooooo much  faster.

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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Friday, September 26, 2014 12:40 AM
Nice work, I'll be following your progress. Suggestion, Sky Blue craft foam board is pretty cheap and I think if you used it to cover the windows it would look nice. Also you can easily make them removable. Keep up the good work!!
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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:26 PM

Very accurate work! It probably took longer to build the jig than it will to build the bridge using it. Don't take me wrong - I'm not critizing the use of the jig.

Dave

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:10 PM

I got a jig made up for the two bridges I  need.  The bridges will be 17 inches end to end and sides with   be 2  inches high.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:13 PM

I  got another  bridge setup and now need to build two bridges for the lower tracks. Itching  to  run a train again.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:05 PM

Found some time to get the two  bridges  installed, took a bit to  get the track to flow nicely. I decided to go with mounting the bridges off the roadbed and  go the cosmetic route with abutments.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:38 PM

hon30critter

Lynn:

I didn't see an answer to your question about Bill's use of triangles so I thought I would try to clarify what he meant.

In the first picture of your Sept. 11 post you can see where the benchwork makes a 90 degree turn to the left. There is a track running very close to the edge of the benchwork right at the 90 degree bend. I believe what Bill was suggesting was to put a triangular piece of plywood with fascia in that corner so that the fascia makes two 45 degree turns instead of the single 90 degree turn. That allows space for a little more foreground scenery and avoids the appearance that the track is coming perilously close to the edge of the layout. He suggested that the square sides of the triangle could be 8" to 12" long but you can use whatever size suits you.

By the way, your changes to the bridge/tunnel setup look much better IMHO.

Dave

 

Thanks Dave I had  figured out what he was talking about and actually added the corners to my trackplan  and  to the to do  list.Big Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:09 PM

Lynn:

I didn't see an answer to your question about Bill's use of triangles so I thought I would try to clarify what he meant.

In the first picture of your Sept. 11 post you can see where the benchwork makes a 90 degree turn to the left. There is a track running very close to the edge of the benchwork right at the 90 degree bend. I believe what Bill was suggesting was to put a triangular piece of plywood with fascia in that corner so that the fascia makes two 45 degree turns instead of the single 90 degree turn. That allows space for a little more foreground scenery and avoids the appearance that the track is coming perilously close to the edge of the layout. He suggested that the square sides of the triangle could be 8" to 12" long but you can use whatever size suits you.

By the way, your changes to the bridge/tunnel setup look much better IMHO.

Dave

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:30 PM

First thing  you will notice I updated the trackplan  to keep things in order.I  fixed up the track so the track above the  tunnel  no longer has a portal  below a bridge end, I  did this by moving  the upper rail back and the tunnel rail  forward and also had to move the  switches a bit.
I've been making slow progress on the layout,  I didnt like the way the two  bridge were over  the tunnel entrances  so had to take apart what I had as you can see in the before  pics  and  fix things up.

Before pics, you can see the bridge/tunnel  issue.

The  left hand bridge

These are pics at the present  state with track reworked and  tunnel area not closed in yet , working to  get the bridges some abutments made up.

I  also got the mountains moved upward to where there in  a better position. Quite a bit  of plaster cloth work completed  as well. Added two new tracks  to goto the two diorammas, the  diorammas are raised and will be backfilled.

Thanks for looking.

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Posted by wickman on Saturday, July 12, 2014 11:05 AM

mobilman44

Hi,

You have done some beautiful work there, and a lot of it.   Very, very nice!

May I offer a suggestion............   on my "fill the room layout" I put in triangles of plywood on all the inside corners.  They range from 8x8 inches to 12x12 inches.   This has done two things........it allows for a more sweeping curve (be it rail or road), and it softens up the harsh corner. 

After figuring out the size of the triangle, I then put 1x4 fascia boards on the edges, and then fastened to the existing benchwork.   The result is super strong, and IMO made a very nice difference.

Hope to see more pics as you progress!

 

Bill

 

Thanks   for the suggestion Bill,  the reason I post  here is  to get  suggestions and  hope to  get  many many more. Unfortunately I'm not  exactly  clear on  what you  mean.?

Thanks

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Posted by mobilman44 on Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:47 AM

Hi,

You have done some beautiful work there, and a lot of it.   Very, very nice!

May I offer a suggestion............   on my "fill the room layout" I put in triangles of plywood on all the inside corners.  They range from 8x8 inches to 12x12 inches.   This has done two things........it allows for a more sweeping curve (be it rail or road), and it softens up the harsh corner. 

After figuring out the size of the triangle, I then put 1x4 fascia boards on the edges, and then fastened to the existing benchwork.   The result is super strong, and IMO made a very nice difference.

Hope to see more pics as you progress!

 

Bill

ENJOY  !

 

Mobilman44

 

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Posted by wickman on Friday, July 11, 2014 7:42 PM

MisterBeasley
 
Wickman asked:

Thats exactley the effect im after, an interior canal. where can i see more of your layout?

 

My photos are at http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/8165

Thanks for looking.

 

Made it through all 39 pages, you should be proud of your accomplishments. I didnt realize you could pour envirotex on foam I always though it  ate it. I really  enjoyed  the  way  you took  photos not  only  of  the  finished  scenes but  the while you were working  on  them  scenes. great job

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, July 11, 2014 6:25 AM

Wickman asked:

Thats exactley the effect im after, an interior canal. where can i see more of your layout?

My photos are at http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/8165

Thanks for looking.

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:50 PM

MisterBeasley

I built this canal to model an old mill complex.

It's not physically deep, but I used paint and tinted Envirotex to make it look that way.  I wanted to get the look of a disused waterway.  If I were to expand this scene, which I can't right now, I would add another section of the canal at a slightly different level and put in a lock where they meet.

 

Thats exactley the effect im after, an interior canal. where can i see more of your layout?

thanks alot

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:00 AM

I built this canal to model an old mill complex.

It's not physically deep, but I used paint and tinted Envirotex to make it look that way.  I wanted to get the look of a disused waterway.  If I were to expand this scene, which I can't right now, I would add another section of the canal at a slightly different level and put in a lock where they meet.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by wickman on Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:39 AM

cowman

What is the location of your layout?  As suggested, if it is in the mountains, river bottoms can be far below the tracks.  If you are running a shoreline railroad near a harbor, there might only be a few feet below the bridge.  A  pond or lake could be above the tracks, as ledge and natural terrain hold water in ponds in the mountains as well as the valley bottoms.

Good luck,

Richard

 

Thanks Richard

Yes it is a good variety if all that you described from end to end.

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Posted by cowman on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:01 PM

What is the location of your layout?  As suggested, if it is in the mountains, river bottoms can be far below the tracks.  If you are running a shoreline railroad near a harbor, there might only be a few feet below the bridge.  A  pond or lake could be above the tracks, as ledge and natural terrain hold water in ponds in the mountains as well as the valley bottoms.

Good luck,

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:54 PM

gandydancer19

Think about the rivers or streams that you have seen in your travels around different places.  Think about how fishermen access them.  15 feet seems a little far down to me.  I would go for 10 feet maybe at the most.  Of course if you are in the maountains it would be farther down in a lot of cases.

 

I did raise the low end so it has a bit more room to play with  for a water way. I kinda  thought to myself after I posted the question, man what a dumb question, end of thought lol. 

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:20 PM

Think about the rivers or streams that you have seen in your travels around different places.  Think about how fishermen access them.  15 feet seems a little far down to me.  I would go for 10 feet maybe at the most.  Of course if you are in the maountains it would be farther down in a lot of cases.

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 2:46 PM

Now that I've  posted where  I'm at I  would  like to ask this question  as it is one of my many struggles, I  want  to add slow moving deep rivers/canals not so  much to the perimeters of the layout but more to  the  interior and build up the area around them  with structures etc. To  go abouts this  should the  river bottoms be  sitting on the grid top as plywood or hardboard so to  speak at the very lowest elevation of the entire layout? Should the track bed then be  raised high enough  on its risers higher  than the level  I now have them for the most part? Would the  distance from the river bed then be  10-15 scale feet below the ground work or roadbed then everything else be build  up above that? I would also like to  add that seeing as I'm still not 100% sure  where the rivers would go as structures still have  not  found there permanent home yet if the river bottom  is to be  placed at the lowest point being the grid top would I  be  further ahead simply filling in ontop of  the grid where theres no track bed risers with some sort of base?

Thanks  all suggestions  welcome

Lynn

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