Is it me or is this the way a crazy person figures things out? Tempted to get some grocery bags stuffed with crumpled paper for support and stuff them under the paper and start putting down plaster cloth.
Lynn
Present Layout progress
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With the bent supports in place and bridge roughly in place I 'm going to see if I can tie the ends of the bench work into the scene. As you can see I also removed the bottom diagonal braces, looked too goofy for me. Will add sway braces when I get somemore wood.Bridge sitting in place I used card stock to give a rough in for the hill over the bent supports. white glue and staples. Bridge back in place for test fit. Just enough clearance under the bents to add plaster cloth and build up a bit. And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
I used card stock to give a rough in for the hill over the bent supports. white glue and staples. Bridge back in place for test fit. Just enough clearance under the bents to add plaster cloth and build up a bit. And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
Bridge back in place for test fit. Just enough clearance under the bents to add plaster cloth and build up a bit. And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
And now the fun begins to try to tie the benchwork into the scene, I also raised the bottom base.
Thanks Bear
That's one fine looking trestle bridge.
Cheers, the Bear.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Cut out the roadbed for a trial fit and once the mainline was lined up and fit nicely I started on the bent pillars.
Was up late last nite and pretty much got the trestle complete. I'm still undecided on whether I will add sway braces. Also attempted to even pickup a nbw and needless to say my mobility skills and sight are nothing what they use to be. May attempt to cut the trestle into the existing roadbed today to at least have that part done and have the trestle removeable for scene work.
hon30critter Very impressive! Don't drop it when you turn it right side up! Dave
Very impressive!
Don't drop it when you turn it right side up!
Dave
Thanks Dave. Funny thing when carried it upstairs to work on in our spare room it darn near slipped right out of my hands. Its getting some weight to it. Should be able to finish it tomorrow depending whether I decide to put my self through the torture of adding nbws or not. Also need to decide if I'm putting cross braces.
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Just have to finish off supports.
Moving right along with the trestle, four days off so I should be able to finish this off I hope.
hon30critter Lynn: Thank you for sharing all of the trestle construction details. I have a similar project in my future. This has been very educational. Dave
Lynn:
Thank you for sharing all of the trestle construction details. I have a similar project in my future. This has been very educational.
Your quite welcome Dave, its my pleasure and has also been very educational for myself.
And the fun begins
Trial fit for bent over river, this won't work need to do some trimming.I hate math. Rail was attched to stringers using pliobond and weighted down, left it for 48 hours.
Rail was attched to stringers using pliobond and weighted down, left it for 48 hours.
Thanks Rob kinda sounded good to me as well and the instructions really don't say much.
wickmanAny advice once I go to install the bents? Perhaps start in the middle or end ? Glue one bent checking for straightness then the next and the supports maybe?
Assuming the kit instructions don't suggest a sequence, that sounds reasonable. Pick a spot and work from there.
Rob Spangler
If its just aesthetics issue I can handle that, Im real good at hiding stuff.
Any advice once I go to install the bents? Perhaps start in the middle or end ? Glue one bent checking for straightness then the next and the supports maybe?
wickmanSo your saying when I centre the bents on the seams of the stringers the outside bent caps will line up as obviously I will be trying to line up every 2 inches which is the length of each stringer where as the outside bent will sit on a seam and the inside of the bent will not sit on the seam? Hopefully this doesn't cause any issues as long as the track rail is over the inside\outside rail and the bent caps line up ok. Unfortuneatly it was last nite at 3am when I set the rail on the stringers permanently so no adjustments can be made.
Yup that's it. This is an aesthetic issue for an HO scale trestle more than a structural one. Hopefully it will be hard to notice once you have everything installed.
wp8thsub wickman I see an issue with the stringers, but it may be too late to correct. It appears you cut the pieces for the inside of the curve the same length as those for the outside. As a result, the joints for the inside stringers will not fall atop a bent like the outside ones will. I didn't mention the need for the the two lengths in my advice on the other thread, so to the extent I may have sowed confusion on the point - my bad. I was figuring the kit instructions and/or plans would have shown the joints.
wickman
I see an issue with the stringers, but it may be too late to correct. It appears you cut the pieces for the inside of the curve the same length as those for the outside. As a result, the joints for the inside stringers will not fall atop a bent like the outside ones will. I didn't mention the need for the the two lengths in my advice on the other thread, so to the extent I may have sowed confusion on the point - my bad. I was figuring the kit instructions and/or plans would have shown the joints.
Thanks Rob I see what you mean I think. So your saying when I centre the bents on the seams of the stringers the outside bent caps will line up as obviously I will be trying to line up every 2 inches which is the length of each stringer where as the outside bent will sit on a seam and the inside of the bent will not sit on the seam? Hopefully this doesn't cause any issues as long as the track rail is over the inside\outside rail and the bent caps line up ok. Unfortuneatly it was last nite at 3am when I set the rail on the stringers permanently so no adjustments can be made.
Bents are all made up all 19 of them or actually 20 as one will be built in above the river. I used a couple sections of construction paper to trace the rail heads for the stringers to be glued together on. Bents hanging where they be posions for the trestle.
I used a couple sections of construction paper to trace the rail heads for the stringers to be glued together on. Bents hanging where they be posions for the trestle.
Bents hanging where they be posions for the trestle.
I also received a supply of ME bridge flex track in the mail. I think it may be time to finish up the bents and start on the stringers.
I'm still working on getting the bents spacing figured out, I've got it down to 2- 2.5 inches apart for the most part. May have to make somemore and perhaps shorten a couple of the longest ones. I find this process is like structure positioning, you have to keep repositioning until it feels right.
Here's a bit of an update of where I've been and where I'm heading.First off the scenery is mostly done in the rear upper bridge areas so I was able to reinstall the bridges clean the track and run trains again. I then moved onto another leg of the layout and mounted the dioramma and river and will begin with the curved trestle scene which will have a waterfall dropping off the river and down to a pool, the river will flow through the trestle bents. The trestle will be about 2.5 feet across with the longest bent being about 13 inches long.You can see where I added wood where need for joining scenery using 1x4s or whatever was suitable. I also added ( probably overbuilt) a 2 teir upper and lower for the trestle bents and water down lower, of course I can't do much in this area until trestle is ready to install, suggestion accepted. So for now I have a very sturdy work area. This is the jig I made up for building the bents for the jv models 2016 curved trestle. I've did 4 bents so far, not complete but there are 4. And the strip wood stained. Although I really didn't realize the 2016 kit was meant to have one bent missing to widen the bent distance for a rail or I guess river this is what I plan to do. My instruction don't include the portion where there a gap to be built in I will have to figure that part out.
I then moved onto another leg of the layout and mounted the dioramma and river and will begin with the curved trestle scene which will have a waterfall dropping off the river and down to a pool, the river will flow through the trestle bents. The trestle will be about 2.5 feet across with the longest bent being about 13 inches long.You can see where I added wood where need for joining scenery using 1x4s or whatever was suitable. I also added ( probably overbuilt) a 2 teir upper and lower for the trestle bents and water down lower, of course I can't do much in this area until trestle is ready to install, suggestion accepted. So for now I have a very sturdy work area. This is the jig I made up for building the bents for the jv models 2016 curved trestle. I've did 4 bents so far, not complete but there are 4. And the strip wood stained. Although I really didn't realize the 2016 kit was meant to have one bent missing to widen the bent distance for a rail or I guess river this is what I plan to do. My instruction don't include the portion where there a gap to be built in I will have to figure that part out.
I also added ( probably overbuilt) a 2 teir upper and lower for the trestle bents and water down lower, of course I can't do much in this area until trestle is ready to install, suggestion accepted. So for now I have a very sturdy work area. This is the jig I made up for building the bents for the jv models 2016 curved trestle. I've did 4 bents so far, not complete but there are 4. And the strip wood stained. Although I really didn't realize the 2016 kit was meant to have one bent missing to widen the bent distance for a rail or I guess river this is what I plan to do. My instruction don't include the portion where there a gap to be built in I will have to figure that part out.
This is the jig I made up for building the bents for the jv models 2016 curved trestle. I've did 4 bents so far, not complete but there are 4. And the strip wood stained. Although I really didn't realize the 2016 kit was meant to have one bent missing to widen the bent distance for a rail or I guess river this is what I plan to do. My instruction don't include the portion where there a gap to be built in I will have to figure that part out.
Thanks everyone for the comments. I'll be doing an update on progress in next couple of days.
Now no offence but some of you methods seem a bit odd but your outcome is spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!
mobilman44 Hi, May I offer a suggestion............ I have a window similar to the one in the pics. I replaced the white mini blinds with light blue ones, and painted in the backdrop to blend into the window ledge, etc. It proved to be a good thing to do, and you might want to consider it.
Hi,
May I offer a suggestion............
I have a window similar to the one in the pics. I replaced the white mini blinds with light blue ones, and painted in the backdrop to blend into the window ledge, etc.
It proved to be a good thing to do, and you might want to consider it.
P.S. Hope you have given some thought as to how to replace/repair the furnace and water heater.
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Hi Lynn
Just checked out the thread. WOW Man! Its coming along very nicely. You got a lot of real estate. Nice work keep the pics coming.
Mario
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Some more progress made.
Rear hill pretty much complete.
Worked on a few more areas, can't put upper bridges back until the areas are finished being mucked up.
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