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Bridge pedastals.
Posted by flagman46 on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:49 PM

Suggestions for forms/materials for bridge pedastals.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:03 PM

Your mention of "forms" is confusing the question.  Are you looking for information on pedestals, which support the ends of the bridge and are for expansion purposes, or are you asking about piers or abutments?

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:06 AM

The usual term for the devices that support the bridge girders on abutments and piers is, bridge shoes.  Usually, for a two-span bridge, the shoes at the abutments are the type that will allow for motion.  On the central pier the bridge will usually rest on a flat steel plate.

Multi-span bridges will have compensating shoes at one end of each span - usually the same end for all spans.

Note that the above is for steel bridges.  I don't know how wood trusses (obsolete since the late 19th century) dealt with the problem.  My one bridge that isn't steel is a concrete arch assembled, with its abutments, as a monolithic casting.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:17 AM
Do you mean abutments or piers? Abutments are the weight-bearing surfaces at each end, piers are the supports in the middle. There are lots of commercial products available. I'm partial to the Chooch ones myself. Since there are so many good commercial options available, especially for piers, that I wouldn't bother trying to scratchbuild anything. I have made abutments by taking an Atlas bridge pier, cutting off the top and the base (essentially creating an open ended box of patterned styrene), then cutting it to fit the terrain and mounting it to the terrain with Sculptamold, then modelling the bridge shoes out of styrene.

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Posted by cowman on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:52 AM

Welcome to the forums.

One  of the clubs that sponsors an annual show that I go to has a layout with a number of piers and abutments made from insulating foam (pink or blue).  Cutting with a fine saw, knife or hot wire tool will give you the shape you want.  For concrete, just paint it with an appropriate color and scribe in a few form lines if desired.  Theirs are models of stone piers.  To get the appearance of stone (or blocks), they just drew in the lines with a ball point pen, but perssed hard enough to press into the foam.  Color as desired.  Simple, uses up some of those smaller chunks of foam that are left from larger projects.

If you don't have foam around, check a construction site.  Very often hunks laying around being thrown away.  I have gotten quite a bit of useful foam that way.  Just be sure to ask, so you don't get pinched for trespassing.

Good luck,

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Posted by eaglescout on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:59 AM

Since I am always trying to save money I buy one Chooch pedastal or tunnel entrance and make a mold of it.  Then I can pour and finish as many extras as I need.  I do not sell these as that would be illegal but for my own use I think I am OK.  I am partial to the cut rock varieties and my molds preserve the detail very well.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:21 AM

The pier on the right in this photo is made out of pink foam.

I used a styrene I-Beam to form the brick lines although you can use just about anything. Pens, pencils, wide chisels, piano wire, an old wooden ruler that has the metal edge in it. Just get creative.

The cost of making this pier is what ever a scrap piece of foam and a little paint cost. I usually do tedious jobs like this while watching the hockey game, so I don't even notice I am doing it.

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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:17 AM

If you mean bridge shoes then the Walthers catalog shows nicely detailed castings from Micro Engineering and Durango Press.  The M-E shoes are a nice size.

The bridge shoes are what hold the bridge beams onto the abutment itself and allow for movement due to expansion etc.

Not shown in the Walthers catalog, but simply gorgeous brass castings, are the bridge shoes from Greenway Products.  I know Greenway has had some issues due to the health of its owner but its website indicates shipping should start again soon.   Their castings are for a rather significantly large bridge and for most purposes the Micro Engineering shoes were what I needed. 

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:29 PM

Flagman46,

Welcome To The Forums.

A whole bunch of info of bridge, abutments, piers and shoes, wood, steel and concrete:

http://www.in.gov/indot/files/bridge_chapter_01.pdf

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Posted by NP01 on Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:03 AM

I have just discovered a cheap alternative ...

Use any foam to create the firm you need. Then coat it with SmoothIt (Woodland Scenics road product). It comes out very concrete when painted with a concrete grey (also WS). 

I made a tunnel portal this way and saved me $10. I am now making a concrete bridge retaining wall. 

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