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From Planning to Building

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Posted by bogp40 on Monday, July 15, 2013 5:56 AM

aflyer

Matthew,

I am thinking the same same thing it will be easier to roll a coat of latex on everything before assembly, and you are right it would look a lot better.  I also was thinking about glueing the roadbed down and thinking it might stick better on the bare wood, so no decision yet, I will keep reading what others are doing. 

Thank you,

Aflyer

 If you're gluing roadbed down, it will bond better to bare wood, but you're not joining cabinetry here, the yellow glue will still hold to paint as well as the prefered DAP caulking. only difference is caulk will allow for any minor changes and remains slightly flexible @ the joint. Some feel that caulking can even slightly isolate a bit of the sound transmission as well.

The Club is    www.ssmrc.org     It is almost a warehouse, a 50' x 200' building Navy bomb assy building.

Modeling B&O- Chessie  Bob K.  www.ssmrc.org

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Posted by AltoonaRailroader on Monday, July 15, 2013 12:52 PM

Totally loving the S Gauge stuff. I have an American flyer set that was my fathers that I would love to build a layout for. i'll be watching this post very closely to see how you make out. Are you going to be able to get all of the S supplies you're going to need?  Are you going to be able to modernize the old AF stuff to make it function properly?

Thanks, keep up the good work.

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Posted by aflyer on Monday, July 15, 2013 8:00 PM

Matthew,

Hi, knowing the dap will stick to painted sub roadbed is a big help, I probably should go ahead and do some base painting before getting into assembly.

I am guessing a need a small pile of bricks or something similar to hold the track in place while the DAP caulk sets up. I haven't gone to buy any yet, so haven't read the specs, does that stuff setup quickly, overnight or some where in between?

Wow, your club, your building and your layout all sound amazing.  Thank you for sharing your we-site very informative.  The layout photos show a real high quality product. 

Aflyer

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Posted by aflyer on Monday, July 15, 2013 8:09 PM

Altoona,

S Gauge is alive and well! Lionel is making several products for S, there is American Models, MTH has a nice start on cars and diesel engines with more coming in 2014. And many more I can't think of at the moment.

I run a whole roster of old AF steam engines and they run like clocks, I also have some diesels that run great too.  I have never had any serious problems with any of the 50 year old American Flyer stuff and at our club we run the old steamers for hours and hours with virtually no breakdowns.

If you are into eBay at all, do a search on American flyer, it will bring up 4-5,000 items for sale at any given time.  You don't need to buy anything or even setup an account to do searches.

I am glad to hear you are thinking of building a layout and the folks on these forums are ready and willing to help you get setup and running those old trains again.

Thank you for your compliment,

Aflyer

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Posted by aflyer on Saturday, August 3, 2013 10:17 PM

Hi all, a little more progress in the last week or so. I have posted pictures below, I now have all the sub roadbed cut, and the track is roughly cut and fit in place.  The photos start on the short, 12 foot leg, and continue around to the longer, 16' leg.  No bridges built yet, and I will probably just build a sub roadbed for each of the four tracks and build the bridges later.

I have decided to go with a farm scene and placed a barn, house, and a siding for the cattle pen and the milk car.  I will add maybe a field, a pasture, and a garden, and maybe a farm pond. Comments always welcome.

Tomorrow I will take it all apart and start the real assembly on the lower level.  I still need to level and square up some of the benchwork.  I plan to glue down the road bed and start wiring track feeders to the bus. 

 The outer most curve leads to a bridge over the ravine connecting to the loop shown above. The two sidings are there to service unknown industries.  The farm was originally going to be here, but this area seemed to cramped.

The upper level on this loop is only sitting on 2.5 inch blocks, when permanently   placed it will be 5 inches above the base level.


The Yard.


The turntable fits between the lead track and the roundhouse, and I have a water tank, but will add more work track coming off the turntable. On the lower lever will be the AF 799 passenger station.

All comments and help welcomed, and thank you for looking

Aflyer

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Posted by aflyer on Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:35 PM

Not a very exciting day workign on the railroad, but I did make some progress. The lower level sub roadbed is mostly attached to the benchwork for the short loop.   

Not a very exciting but necessary job,  I cleaned a bunch of track, and began the task of soldering the feeder wires.  I went with a 14 gauge bus as I  had shared earlier and based on lots of input I decided to go with 20 ga. solid feeders. And you are correct, this is much easier to solder to the track.  

I found the red and white easily in a twisted pair from Lowe's it was 20/2 Bell wire.  The green and black was harder to find so I ended up at Radio shack and got a couple of 25 foot  spool so I could get started.

Attached is a photo of some sample sections with the feeders soldered, and a couple after I put the track back in the roadbed.

Thanks for looking.

Aflyer 

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Posted by HObbyguy on Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:11 PM

I may not be qualified to give advice but its great to watch your progress especially since we both got started around the same time.  Just letting you know I am following along.

Hey, I am using the same red/white twisted bell wire from Lowe's for my feeders.  But I ended up ordering a bunch of wire for everything else from All Electronics.  Local electrical supplies seem to be very limited these days.

Huntington Junction - Freelance based on the B&O and C&O in coal country before the merger...  doing it my way.  Now working on phase 3.      - Walt

For photos and more:  http://www.wkhobbies.com/model-railroad/

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Posted by aflyer on Monday, August 19, 2013 5:21 PM

Walt,

Thanks for following along, and commenting on my posts.

Thanks for the tip on All Electronics, I'll go check them out.

Aflyer

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Posted by kix66 on Monday, August 19, 2013 8:57 PM

Great soldering job!  Looks like a professional's work.

Following along,

Kix66

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Posted by stebbycentral on Friday, March 28, 2014 6:39 PM

Aflyer,

I'ts been 6 months and not a peep out of you.  How about some progress pictures?

I have figured out what is wrong with my brain!  On the left side nothing works right, and on the right side there is nothing left!

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Posted by aflyer on Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:36 AM

stebbycentral,

Wow, it sure has been along time. My apologies for not sharign all my progress with you, oh but wait, I haven't really made any progress.

I actually have done a little bit of work, but not very much.  I will take a couple of pics, and do a follow post ovewr the next few days.

I retired in July 2014, and that is when I really got busy, I have no idea where the time goes.

Aflyer

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