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Glue foam down or carve first?

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Glue foam down or carve first?
Posted by PaulWhitt20 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:13 PM

Hi,

I am about to start carving the foam to make the terrain. One question is do I glue the foam to the plywood base first or carve the foam then glue it down? I am planning on covering all the plywood with 2 inch foam then cutting away the low lying land and building up the hills. The track will all be at the same level on top of the unshaped  foam.

Thanks in advance for your replies

Paul

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:34 PM

I am using one inch foam.  What I am mostly doing is laying all the roadbed and track on the foam first.  I also drew where I wanted gullies and streams with a marker and didn't glue the track down in those places.

I am carving down, and adding foam to go up.

However, in those places where I will be building a large mountain or hill, I will carve the basic shape first, then set it in place to finish it.

In the photo below, you will see the base foam.  Note that the foam forming the hills up to the bridge abutments have been carved first, then put in place.  Next the foam will be covered with ground goop and scenic'ed.

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

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Posted by tgindy on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:24 PM

"thebige61" has a start-to-finish (or, "soup-to-nuts") 10-part YouTube Series at apx. 9 minutes/video.  #1:  Model Railroad Scenery using Extruded Foam - Part 1 - HQ.

Very thorough! -- Carving-to-fit seems to be the primary preference.  Wonder if "thebige61" (Evert) participates in this forum?

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Posted by bogp40 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:08 PM

As gandydancer mentions, built up sections are easier done off the layout then tested, fit until satisfied w/ results. For those Wedding cake build ups, you can place the next layer and mark the outline (think of a topigraghical map- elevatiuon lines) this allows you to be failly close a fit as you go up in the shaping .

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Posted by cowman on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:04 PM

I put the base piece down first.  If you know where you are going to cut it completely down to the plywood, avoid putting adhesive in that area, so it will come up easily.  For your build up areas, cut the pieces to the general shape you want, finish shaping when attached.  For shaping foam I have found the small Shurform tool very useful for contouring foam.  A can of Static Guard and a shop vac are also  very handy.

If you are doing a rock cut, I suggest you use tooth picks to hold one of the sides base piece in place.  Attach the upper pieces with adhesive and shape as desired.  The reason for this is that coloring the rock face is difficult in a narrow cut.  Once you have colored the face to your satisfaction, then attach it to the layout. 

Good luck,

Richard

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:41 PM

I generally rough-cut off the layout, then install, then use a Sur-Form rasp to get the final shape.

And a shop vac to clean up afterwards.

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Posted by GP-9_Man11786 on Saturday, July 2, 2011 1:19 PM

If you're using a hot wire or hot knife, I would cut the foam outside or in a well-ventilated area. The fumes from doing this can be quite toxic from what I understand.

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Posted by ARTHILL on Saturday, July 2, 2011 3:30 PM

I cut everything on the dining room table and then place on layout as I go. Here is the table full of some of the pieces for The Superstition Mts. I carve in smaller pieces that fit together like a 3D puzzle. I carve the seams to look like crevases or layers. The Kanyon scene has about ten sections.  I found this much easier to carve and certainly easier to clean up. For large projects the layout keeps running axcept for those moments when you are test fitting a piece.

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