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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 30, 2007 9:13 PM

I am not a man, I am a kid with trains hahahahahaha Big Smile [:D]

A...Where are some more pictures of Lazy 8 RR?????

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Posted by John Busby on Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:38 AM
 Sweet Santa Fe wrote:

John,

 No offense taken.  I sometimes get a little defensive as this seems to be a mans hobby.  I like my Lionel train.  It doesn't hop the track, as long as I make sure nothing is in the way.  It's big and heavy.  I especially like the way that it starts, stops, and goes in reverse.  It's easy to set up, and take down when necessary.

 

Melissa 

Hi Mellissa

Mans world HA! you should have a talk to Sandy R who has done some excellent modeling

Rene works in the MRR publishing world

We had a young lady on the forum from NZ who's modeling put me to shame

I can only dream of being as good as a well known (In The UK) Modeller Doreen Andrews

My sister has a train set that I had to buy her one year so she would leave my train set alone they ended up combined as two independent railways in the same area each of us with our own but connected railways.

While maybe not that common but there are a lot of the girls involved in railway modeling more than most people think

And quite a few train drivers on the railway I work for as well.

You certainly don't need to be defencive here, your just as much part of the train crew as the rest of us and don't let any one tell you different.

Thanks for the info on the 4-4-2 might have to chase one of those one day.

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Posted by zakowitz on Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:38 PM

Hey There....

 

    There won't be any pics of the Lazy 8 fo a while....I tried to miter my thumb in the table saw

                                                :(

 

                                              Zak

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 31, 2007 7:17 PM

Zak,

Guess we will have to not even let you play with those things again!!! Wink [;)] Should see my hands, several (more than 3) cuts/gouges/slashes to my hands I have taken though the years. Luck would have it I can doctor my own wounds hope you can to, watch for infection and all the best to yeah!

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Posted by ttrigg on Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:34 PM
Zak:
Just so long as you just mitered it, and did not shorten it all will be well.  While recuperating be sure to go run the trains, maybe not play in the dirt, don't want infection as William said.

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Posted by John Busby on Monday, April 2, 2007 3:45 AM

Hi Zak

All the best for a speedy recovery.

cannot think of a humorous comment at the moment so you will just have to wait for it

regards John

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Posted by dwbeckett on Monday, April 2, 2007 7:53 AM

Hi ZAK, Me too on the speedy recovery. I Tryed to slice off my left thumb once. cut the tip of my right thumb off with a meat slicer,  tryed to cut a 4inch hole in my left knee, and burtout both lungs mixing cleaning cemicals NOT RECOMMENDED. so get well soon.  

 

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Posted by S&G Rute of the Silver River on Wednesday, April 4, 2007 4:00 PM
"Bah, its just a finger. You'll heal"  Famous words from my football coach. As my index finger points a differnt direction. And in a way he was right fingers heal suprisingly quickly. You'll be back on the lazy 8 in no time. Till then, have fun on the lazy chair!
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Posted by Tom The Brat on Wednesday, April 4, 2007 4:32 PM
Ow!
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Posted by spikejones52002 on Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:07 AM

Read the mans orginial post.

He just described what he built and was enjoying.

Immediately he received replys that he has to rebuild.

Even running an engine on level track you cause wear on your equipment.

The man just showed off what he accomplished.

I am very happy that he is enjoying running his trains.

Never once did he mention he was having a problem and needed suggestions.

AS far as my using a larger font. I do it because so as I can read it and correct any error I might type.

Sorry I am not perfect like the rest of you are.

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Posted by markperr on Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:37 PM

Zak;

First of all, sorry to hear about your thumb.  Been there, done that with my index finger on a circular saw.  Never a fun thing.

Second.  Hopefully you won't mind another opinion but since I got a chance to look at your pics I thought I'd offer a couple of suggestions.

In the case of real railroads, engineers (not the train driving type) always did their best to work with the obstructions by going around them whenever possible.  It looks like your end loops are not quite wide enough to get completely around your retaining walls.  Rather than take down and relocate your wall, why not just add a two or three foot piece of straight track in the middle of your loop. This will widen it and allow the track to go completely around the wall.

I know from experience that these wall blocks are about four and a half inches tall.  That gives your over under section about a fourteen inch clearance.  You'll never need anything approaching that height.  Even the tallest pieces of modern rolling stock in "G" scale only measure out to about ten inches in height from the top of the railhead.  I would suggest that since you are going to be running narrow gauge  equipment that you measure the vertical height of your caboose and add about an inch.  It'll most likely be the tallest item you'll own, but the inch will give you some play.  Take this measurement and make it your distance from the top of the railhead on the lower track to the bottom of whatever your bridge will be on the upper track.  This should lower your upper track significantly.

When you couple widening your end loops with lowering your center crossover, those two things alone should reduce your grade to less than three percent.  A quick calculation gives a 9" rise over 300" of run for a 3% grade.  300" is 25 ft.  That's nothing more than an eight foot circle going over itself, which looks about like what you have already.  Just widen the loops, lower the center a bit, leave the walls alone and you'll be in dandy shape.

Mark

P.S. SPIKE:  If you saw Zak's thumb about to come into contact with the moving blade of his saw, would you yell for him to watch out, or would you let him get cut because you figure he deserves to be proud of the fact that he knows how to cut wood with a power tool?  You should try and learn the difference between malicious criticism for the sake of making oneself feel better, and helpful advice, even if unsolicited, for the express purpose of preventing someone else from making the same stupid, possibly expensive or injurious, mistake that you may have made.

 

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Posted by S&G Rute of the Silver River on Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:40 PM

Dang, yall still goin on about the critism thing.

 

"P.S. SPIKE:  If you saw Zak's thumb about to come into contact with the moving blade of his saw, would you yell for him to watch out, or would you let him get cut because you figure he deserves to be proud of the fact that he knows how to cut wood with a power tool?  You should try and learn the difference between malicious criticism for the sake of making oneself feel better, and helpful advice, even if unsolicited, for the express purpose of preventing someone else from making the same stupid, possibly expensive or injurious, mistake that you may have made."

He's right you know, though.

And spike I can't tipe well ither but its how I have always been and its stuck. Just keep doin what you need to do, and remember this is soposto be FUN!  Wink [;)]

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Posted by el-capitan on Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:56 PM

 spikejones52002 wrote:
I do it because so as I can read it and correct any error I might type.

Does anyone else see the irony here?

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Posted by altterrain on Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:46 PM

Well, he did not say anything about good grammar! Evil [}:)]

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Posted by spikejones52002 on Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:28 AM

You are absolutely Right Chicken Little.

Everyone is in Danger. Some one is enjoying what he built.

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Posted by markperr on Monday, April 16, 2007 12:57 PM
Disapprove [V]Some people just don't get it.Disapprove [V]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 16, 2007 1:55 PM
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Posted by MTCarpenter on Monday, April 16, 2007 2:47 PM

I stuck my pinky in a table router once.  Luckily the fence was a custom one made to route off very small amounts of plastic, so in turn the hole where the blade comes out between the fence was very, very small.  I had a very bad cut/gash that messed with the nail a bit, but was small enough that it didn't need stitches.

And that's all I got.  Oh, cool layout BTW!  Keep at it.  There is a ton of good into on this site to learn from.  Hope your finger gets better soon and when you get a moment, post some more pics!! 

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Posted by zakowitz on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:12 AM

Hi Everyone!

   The numb thumb is coming along. I hope to have some more pictures up in the next couple of weeks for you guys to comment on. I brought in a load p/u load of rough sand for the roadbed, but the time needed to tamp the right of way and lay track has not presented itself. Thanks again for all of your comments and suggestions.

                                                 Later,

 

                                                     Zak

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:43 AM

Hay Zak galde to hear thumb is doing better! Not great weather we are having here either. Hey, you get my email?

 

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Posted by Tom The Brat on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:01 AM

I fell off a 40 ft ladder once.

Good thing I was on the first rung. I could have been hurt!

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Posted by dwbeckett on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:28 AM
 Tom The Brat wrote:

I fell off a 40 ft ladder once.

Good thing I was on the first rung. I could have been hurt!

After reading some of your post's I think you may have landed on your headSign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]

 

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Posted by S&G Rute of the Silver River on Friday, April 20, 2007 9:43 AM

Glad your healing.

Tom the Brat, thats so good I mght just borrow that one.

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Posted by zakowitz on Monday, April 23, 2007 12:55 AM

Hello Folks,

    I fianally have some more photos to share with you guys of our railroad.  We finished one garden circle today and tamped and laid track on the lower straight of way between the circles.  I will finish the western circle next weekend, and then hopefully get started on the trestle build. Man, there is lot of bending over in positions I haven't been in for a long time involved with this hobby! You guys wanted more pictures so here you go. I encourage your comments. Pros or cons.....It all goes to making this hobby more fun for all of us...

                              Zak

PS...oh yeay the pics....almost forgot  http://www.flickr.com/photos/7392037@N05/

 

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Posted by John Busby on Monday, April 23, 2007 3:56 AM

Hi Zak

Looking good the hard work pays off latter when you have both a nice garden and a railway to enjoy

I see you have a set of points that seems a good move for adding some operational interest. as the wallet and time allows.

The up round and over the bridge reminds me of a picture of the Darjeeling railway a little Bit

Have you thought of putting a station (depot I think in US speak) on the outside of the curve up top where its level and a lone house in the middle of the loop just a daft thought.

regards John

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, April 23, 2007 9:48 AM

Zack

That looks great! You'll be happier with the gentler grades. Johns right, next step is to add some switches for some spurs, and maybe add a couple industries on them, at the least adding a passing siding on the base. Anyway if your happy with it, then just keep it as is and have fun with it!

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Posted by el-capitan on Monday, April 23, 2007 10:03 AM
looks great. I think that moving the track to the inside of the bricks makes all the difference. I'm looking forward to more pics when you get them

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 23, 2007 10:23 AM

Zak,

Looks dang great!!! Can you tell the difference in the engine moving up the grade?

Just a well.......suggestion?...uh, did see on the cribbing and noticed the holes abit big and would like to suggest landscape fabric behind it or rock, why you ask??? Might have a heavy down pour could cause a wash out that could go through it.

But just wait till a good shower and check it.

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Posted by zakowitz on Monday, April 23, 2007 12:56 PM

Howdy Again....

     Yeah the cribbing is much to large....I am going to replace it....will show you guys the result later next week.  Yep Toad,  the engine works fine on the grade...lugs a little...but does not almost come to a complete stop any longer....

                                           Zak

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Posted by ttrigg on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:32 AM
Zak:

Glad to see you've been busy, and apparently the thumb is healing.  Otherwise I'm sure Mom would have halted construction.  Looks to me like you have conquered the problem with the grade elevations in a most excellent manner.  I'm interested about how you plan on supporting the "high line", will it be built up with stone? or one massive bridge? or a combination?

I would like to echo the thoughts of John and Vic, "looking good".  

As far as the cribbing goes, I've seen some in real life that was 8x12's x 16 ft.  That one was at the base of a rock cliff retaining all the falling rock in Colorado.  I think the Toad has a good idea about putting landscaping fabric behind the cribbing.  Unless you do not like the look and really want to go smaller, I would say use what you have and put something behind to hold back the dirt.

Tom Trigg

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