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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, October 23, 2006 6:08 AM
Made some headway this last week. The first section of trestle is completed and the roadbed leading to it is in place. Trestle bents are build of cedar and the bases of composit decking material. Will pack crusher run stones around the bases to help slow down erosion (as soon as I get to the rock quarry and get some). For the staining I am using used motor oil. It would be a whole lot easier to do before installation, but the glue don't stick to the oiled wood. Some pictures of the trustle are located here: http://www.helping-friends.us/sj/smilin_jack001.htm
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:00 PM
Nice work! I'm enjoying watching and reading about the progess. How long are the trestles? They look huge!
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:34 PM
Thanks for your interest and compliment. This trestle is just a little over 15 feet long and is made up of 29 bents. When finished the railroad will have at least two and maybe three more. Since the last post, I have finished another 40 feet of ballast. Suppose to have rain tonight and tomorrow so guess I won"t get anything done. Must get some wire and other small things. A rain day should be good for that.
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, November 2, 2006 4:51 PM
Another week and have made some nice progress. Ballast all the installed roadbed. (approx. 120 ft.). Dug another 30 ft. of roadbed and filled about 12ft. with stone. Must go get another load. Installed some of the track wiring. Had to redo the stones around the base of the trestles. They are at the low end of the garden and a hard rain washed them out. This time I mixed portland cement with the finds. Haven't had any rain since, but I think it should hold. I may have to do the same with some of the road ballast. We'll see. Next week will be a short one, since we'll be heading for Las Vegas for a long weekend with some old Navy buddies. Hopefully I'll finish the roadbed dug this week and get the track in and ballasted.
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, November 20, 2006 6:21 AM

For those of you who may have been looking for an update, I'm sorry to say there has be no progress since the last entry. Loooong weekend in Las Vegas where the only thing I got was a good old fashion cold. A couple days of rain followed by another trip. (This time to Pennsylvania for the Thanksgiving holidays). Will head back saturday and hopefully get some work in on the railroad between than and the next holiday period. Ready to ballast some track and start building the next trestle.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, December 4, 2006 6:02 AM
A little progress. Roadbed is complete from the end of trestle #1 and what will be the begining of trestle #2. This will be a station area and is now wired to allow for pausing one train there while the second complets a loop then stops while the first on leaves the station. Wiring is encased in PVC and ready to be burried. I started digging last week, but we had showers for two days. Its first on the list for this weeks work. http://www.helping-friends.us/sj/smilin_jack001.htm has a couple pictures of this area.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 4, 2006 5:47 PM

I have lost the word temporarily, for the stuff they put in concrete which was referred to as gravel but you can get it from just about any lanscaping supply place. Ie you should be able to get it from the same place you get yout fines.

Aggragate is the word and you can buy it just about anywhere. However try to get one with jsagged type surface, as smooth types are bad news, in that they will not adhere to each other properly.

Rgds Ian 

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, December 7, 2006 2:58 PM
Thanks Ian. Actually the fines are working much better than I thought they would. Just a few spots where I've added some portland cement with the finds to hold them in place where there is heavy runoff during hard rains. I'm quite lucky in that the county operates a rock quarry and their fines are really reasonably priced.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 7, 2006 9:09 PM

Fines in general are very cheap, as i think they are what is left over and what no one else wants.

We use portland cement as well but what also works for us is tile sealer, i prefer mat stuff and my wife prefers gloss.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:54 PM

Just posted a few more pictures at http://www.helping-friends.us/sj/smilin_jack002.htm These show the progress for the week. Finished geting the wiring in the conduit and the conduit in the gound. Packed the ballast around about 60 feet of track. Yesterday I started work on the second trestle. Have dug out for the stone dust base and today started laying the base and some bents. I am just placing the bents  every 5th or 6th one for now, I will fill the in after getting all the base and grading set. When all in, I'll pack stone dust mixed with some portland cement around the bases of the bents to hold them and keep water runoff from washing them out.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:39 AM
Great weather since last posting. Completed backing in stone base for Trestle #2, built and installed 53 bents. 17 more to go, along with all the bracing and the top layer of stone dust mixed with portland cement. Here is a few photos: http://www.helping-friends.us/sj/smilin_jack002.htm Will be in PA for the holidays. Everyone have a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 25, 2006 8:08 PM

You should be able to get Quarry fines from your local landscaping supplier, it is nearly the cheapest thing that comes out of a quarry and it is ideal for ballast.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:12 AM
Ian. Thanks. I go directly to the quarry and get my fines. Save the expense of the middle man. Jack
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:47 PM

Jack how can you say that, the quarry is so far away what about the extra cost of petrol (gas)

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:00 PM
Ian, The quarry is less than 5 miles from the train lot, so gas is no problem. Jack
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Sunday, January 7, 2007 6:48 AM
Now that the Holidays are over, work has continued on the railway. Upon return from Pennsylvania, I found over 15 feet of packed crusher fines washed out. Must have had some really hard rains. After repacking it, I've finished the bents for trestle #2 and yesterday packed crusher fines with portland cement around all the basses. That should eliminate future wash outs. Today is to bring hard rains, so I should find out. Sorry, I never thought to take pictures of washouts till I was finishing up yesterday. Tomorrow if it isn't too muddy, I hope to start installing the side bracing and top rails for the trestle. Will post some pictures when finished.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 7, 2007 5:55 PM

I am really sorry about you losing some of your soil. I also get heavy rains from time to time and i use cement powder (not concrete) mixed with the fines in strategic places, to stop this a bit. We also use stone sealer on the fines to hold them in place; as well we intermix stones with the fines etc.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 1:24 PM
Ian. More of pain in the neck than anything. Spent half a day redoing and than mixed some portland cement with the fines. Shouldn't have any more. I'm trying to use a mixture of portland cemnent and fines along the sides of my track bed and ballast where the possibility of washouts exist. I'll look for stone sealer and give it a try. Jack
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Posted by underworld on Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:32 PM

jhsimpson62  Do you have any more recent photos?

 

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, January 15, 2007 5:25 AM
underworld. I' affraid I've been a little laxed in the picture taking. While I was waiting for the trestle bents to dry out from a downpour, I started laying the next section of track bed(approx 30 feet). That is now ready to be ballast and the bents ready for the side bracing. In the mean time a friend clearing a piece of land found some nice rocks, so I have been hauling them for the future mountain/waterfall. After a load of rock this morning I hope to get the bracing on the trestle bents and take a few pictures for posting. Jack
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Posted by Train 284 on Monday, January 15, 2007 11:38 AM
WOW! Thats all I can say!     
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, January 15, 2007 4:40 PM
Thanks Matt. Nothing like a verbal pat on the back to keep a guy going. Jack
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, January 15, 2007 6:28 PM
As promised this morning, here are some new pictures. Didn't get the bracing on the bents. By the time I got them measured and cut, it started drizzeling. I did manage to get another load of rocks (future mountain).
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Posted by underworld on Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:03 PM

jhsimpson62 Looking forward to seeing the work!

 

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:08 PM
Another week and a little more progress. Here are a few pictures. I had two different overviews, but somehow I managed to post the same one twice and deleted the pictures from the camera. Also had one of the trestle which now has the side bracing attached. It got lost so I'll take another next time. Hopefully by than I have the top rail attached and it will be finished. I did get another 30 or so feet of track ballasted and installed a basic bridge crossing an area where rain water runs.
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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Monday, January 29, 2007 11:19 PM
Looking good! That is one nice, large layout, and a heck of a long trestle!
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:58 PM
Thanks Ray.Building the trestle was a lot easier than hauling rocks and dirt to level out the train lot. There will be at least one more trestle about the same length and maybe a shorter one. Have to have something to keep me busy. Jack
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Posted by tlnibert on Friday, February 9, 2007 6:29 AM

My layout has set idle for a couple years and in two months I'll start a rebuild.  I've used 13 tons of crusher fines so far for ballast.  I will need several more tons to reballast.  Over time rain and wind has spread the ballast and it will be shoved back in place, and cement added to the mix to lock it in place.  I used Aristo Craft 5 foot straights and 20 ft curves. I had to used 6 pieces of 13 ft curve around a peach tree. The layout will be run with 3 connections using a TE with 3 receivers.  More connections will be made if we find it necessary.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Friday, February 9, 2007 6:53 AM
Tom, sounds as though you have a real project on your hands. I haven't used nearly as much crusher fines.  About 7 or 8 tons. Most of which was used on the pathways. I've mad a change, which will eliminate a trustle (or maybe 2) but requires moving a lot of dirt. About a third of the way there and have moved 20 wheel barrows full already. Since most of my track has been laid, its impossible to it anyway but by hand. When finished, I'll post before and after photos. If the weather holds, hopefully within a week.  Jack
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 9, 2007 6:15 PM

This all sounds like too much hard work and not enough play. "Remember all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy".

Rgds Ian

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