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New Railway
Posted by jhsimpson62 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:06 AM

Having relocated to S. Carolina, I am in the process of building another Garden Railway. Hopefully in the next couple of days, I will have figured out how to post pictures to show my progress. I had started a layout in Pa. Had the track work finished but was in need of plants when we decided to move south. So far we have cleared the lot, built some dried stacked stone walls to help with the elevations changes and laid out the track and walk ways. The boss keeps bringing plants home to be dug in so actual track work is going slow. Once I actually wired it up and checked to make sure the engine would pull the grades. No real plan, I sort of just go with what feels right at the time. Will work on the pictures.

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:04 PM
Have figured out posting pictures (I think). Here are a few and will try to impove in the future.
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 9:27 AM
Wow, thats a lot of room! I had to squeeze the turnip for land for my layout.

   Have fun with your trains

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 2:13 PM
Sometimes I think I bit more off than I should have. In Pa I had 22 x 28 plot. Down here its 80 x 70 x 36 x 88'. On the bright side - that much less to mow grass on. Crusher finds for the walkways and ballast to arrive tomorrow. That will keep me busy for a while
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 3, 2006 2:25 AM
I wish I had that much land - you are lucky !
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, August 3, 2006 6:45 PM
After deciding to move south, one of the criteria was sufficient backyard for a nice size garden railroad. It took a while, but even the real estate agent finially got the hint we were serious when we said we wanted to see the yard before going in the house. I'm sure it will serve its purpose -- Keeping me busy in my retirement.
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 5:33 PM
Just a quick up-date on the progress of the railroad. Still no name, have to work on that. Completed the walkways. Also finished laying the track for two sidings. Next comes diging in and ballasting the track. Up north I used "washer fines" with great success. Here in SC this becomes Sand with very few stone chips.  Will this work? If not what else could be used? Once I get some tack ballasted I'll post some more pictures.  JHS
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Posted by skeenapac on Friday, August 11, 2006 6:24 PM
Something that is available almost everywhere is "chicken grit", crushed granite used in chicken runs. It makes fairly decent ballast, and usually comes in 4 sizes. Try No. 2....... seriously.

James http://railway.skeenapacific.ca

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:50 AM
James, Thanks for the information on "chicken grit". I have heard it mentioned before, but never went looking for it or seen it used. Today should be a good day to see if I can find some (It was raining pretty hard when I woke up this morning, so its too muddy to start digging in the track. I'm in a pretty rural area so I should be able to find what I'm looking for. Enjoyed your web page. Nice work and thanks again for sharing. Jack
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:10 AM
horticultural grit is a good sustitute - a bit bigger but avaliable from garden centres
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:18 AM
Thanks for the tip on horticultural grit. Never heard of it, but will look for it. Jack
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:46 AM

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:28 PM
Nice start! I'll bet the red dirt day in and day out has been an adjustment in it's self! If you model the PRR than you'll have to import some brown stuffBig Smile [:D] 
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:27 PM
Matt, Yes it took a while to get used to the red dirt. Worse is dragging it all over the house. One day we'll have some ground cover. Not planning on modeling the Pennsy, but do have a Pennsy 4-8-0 and some passengers cars. Expect I'll get rid of the markings and use what ever name I come up with for my rr. Want to get another Shay or a Climax ( maybe both, thats what I ran in PA)
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:08 PM

Have made some more progress. Dug out about 80 feet of roadbed and filled it with tamped crushed stones. Put track back in place. Although not shown in these new pictures, have laid the ballast in about 25 foot. After some rain showers over night it seems to be holding. now about another 200 ft to go, then on to the trustles. New pictures are located here:

http://www.helping-friends.us/sj/smilin_jack001.htm

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Posted by Takasaki Matt on Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:29 PM

I don't envy you doing all that digging.

Keep us posted on developments please.

Bow [bow]

 

Matthew Foster Takasaki Light Railway http://www.freewebs.com/mjhfoster/
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, August 21, 2006 6:05 AM
Matt, Actually digging is the easy part. Its the tamping the roadbed and packing the ballast in thats the hard part. Getting harder on the knees all the time, but we will keep at it.
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:34 AM

Before heading to the train lot for the mornings session, I thought a quick up-date might be iln order. Another 80' or so of track bed has be dug and stones tamped in place. No ballast laid yet as I'm still debating what to use. My road bed is laid with larger stones than planned (leftovers from walkways which was larger than wanted but worked out fine) I have screened some and used it as ballast, but after a really hard rain I'm not happy with the way it washed out. I think "chicken grit" is next to be tried. Mean while I still have some larger stone to lay some more track bed. Sometime next week they will be seeding a new lawn so access to the train lot will have to wait till it germinates. Jack

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Posted by Camaro1967 on Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:00 AM

JH,

Go to a local cement block plant, and ask them if they will sell you the gravel that they make cement blocks out of.  That is what I am using now. It has some dust, and some real nice sized rough gravel. I use it to build grades, then sift it to get the fines out, and make a good ballast.  The fines make great roads.

Paul

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Monday, August 28, 2006 6:14 AM
Thanks Paul, I'll check it out. Right know I'm going to finish all the road beds, then I'l do the ballasting and build and install the trustles. Jack
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:32 AM

Should anyone want to see the article which appeared in the local newspaper yesterday go to:  http://www.helping-friends.us/sj/senecanews082906_a.htm and http://www.helping-friends.us/sj/senecanews082906_b.htm  you can see it was a slow news day.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:24 PM

Cool article,  I was in the local paper today. Her's the article. charlie

 

 

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Posted by ttrigg on Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:37 AM
 Camaro1967 wrote:

JH, 

Go to a local cement block plant, and ask them if they will sell you the gravel that they make cement blocks out of. 



Another thing to look at is their waste pile.  Most block plants (at least the ones I've gone to) have a "cull" pile located just outside their fenceline.  These are the blocks that are too cracked, etc. to sell as "seconds".  I've picked up quite a number for a nickle each, and on occasion, when the plant manager is in a good mood, for free.  These bolks are very good building the "subframe" for a mountain structure that will be covered by dirt and rocks anyway. 

Tom Trigg

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:38 PM
Thanks for sending the article. So far I've found one garden railwayer in the area as a result of the one on my GRR. Have been hearing rumors about one being, but no one knew for sure where or who. Jack
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:41 PM
Camaro1967: Thanks for the tip. I'll be looking for some block to build up a water feature. Jack
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:39 AM

Construction on the railroad was halted for the last two weeks in order to install a new lawn around it. We now have green grass and construction can commence once again. Only managed about 10 ft of roadbed since last update. Been busy keeping lawn watered. Next to come is some sort of shelter to house my electronic equipment. Before seeding I ran Electric to the lot along with water for drip system and future water feature. Not sure what to use for equipment, but I imagine I'll have to construct something to ensure water tightness. Want something that everything can stay in and be secured when not in use. Any ideas?

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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, September 28, 2006 4:49 PM
No new pictures, but I just realized its been two weeks since my last up-date. Been busy building trestle bents. Have completed a dozen or so and cut some more lumber down to size for some more. I figure I'll end up with about 275 before its over. Tomorrow's project will be to dig some post holes and install  the housing for the electrical equipment and start wiring some things up so I can finish working on the road beds. Will keep you posted.
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:43 AM
Finally some progress! The new pictures show a box I installed to hold the electrical equipment. Its a "dock box" (at least here by the lakes), is lockable and most important, stays dry. Also shown is the water supply. Electricity is ran and connected as shown in the third photo. The wire running out of the ground fault recepticle feeds another double recepticle, so I have six in all. Also as shown in the first new picture, I have completed, and have started to install some of the trestle bents. This will take you to the pictures.
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Posted by Mike Dorsch CJ&M r.r. on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:02 PM
Wow thats one awsome railroad that you got there . I thought I had a lot of work to do when I started mine . Looks like yours should keep you busy for many , many years to come . Great job so far , have fun !
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Posted by jhsimpson62 on Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:00 PM
Yes, when moving south the goal was to build a railroad. This will be one of those projects that is never finished. Once the track work is finished then the fun will begin. Don't really mind the track work, but it seems to take forever. Have gotten some more trestles bents installed and some more made and ready to install. I'm using composit decking trim for the bases and it was too windy to cut some more today. Jack

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