LGB Amfleet cars

[Bucksco]

I was saving these but this might be an appropriate time to sneak a peek-



























Enjoy!

[emipapa]

Very nice Jack. It is nice to see that LGB just continues with it's usual quality.
Ron

[RhB_HJ]

Many of us are looking forward to seeing the actual production models. [;)][:)][;)]

[Bucksco]

These are actual production models- unpainted.

[vsmith]

Very nice, they just SCREAM for a cab-car though! If LGB is smart, after releasing these they should quickly issue a cab-car as well, otherwise some smart enterprising fellow is gonna produce a conversion kit and sell a mess of them.

Now if we can just get someone to release an F40

[Bucksco]

Way ahead of you partner! [;)]

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bucksco

These are actual production models- unpainted.
[:)][:)][:)][:D][:D][:D][:)][:)][:)]

Hi Jack,

What I mean is: ready for delivery and review. [;)]

Even I will buy one, if only to have some fun measuring and comparing to the prototype. [;)][:)][;)]
"G1.5 rules!" [;)][:D][;)][;)]

[Bucksco]

I'll have fun running mine![;)][;)][;)]

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bucksco

I'll have fun running mine![;)][;)][;)]

Good for you!

They don't fit my RhB anymore than the LGB 31510 RhB EW IV would.

But I'll have great fun doing the review, despite it being a serious endeavour. [:)][:)][:)]

[vsmith]

I wonder what a P42 and a string of these would look like in Santa Fe Warbonnet or UP yellow colors.

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

I wonder what a P42 and a string of these would look like in Santa Fe Warbonnet or UP yellow colors.

Yeah!

Or CP gray and maroon with script lettering.[:p][:D][:D] To go with the F7 scheme. [:I][:I]

[Bucksco]

Or my personal favorite:

[Anonymous]

HJ;

your so.....well......[}:)][B)][8][:o)]

(at least I get your drift) [:p]

Have Fun: Jeff [8D]

[kstrong]

Jack--very nice. LGB's doing some great stuff in 1:29, even though y'all won't put it on the box. One criticism--the wheels are too small. Is LGB going to provide proper wheels for these cars (ie 36" diameter without the axle ends sticking out?) When you compare your shots to the banana yellow car above, that's the one thing that jumps out at me as being "wrong." I can't help but to think y'all have some wheels sitting on the shelf somewhere that would be much more in scale. (And yes, I'm using "scale" and "LGB" in the same sentence.)

Later,

K

[johnandjulie13]

Jack:

I"m with you. As long as they look good, I will look forward to running them, not measuring them.

Regards,

John O

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by johnandjulie13

Jack:

I"m with you. As long as they look good, I will look forward to running them, not measuring them.

Regards,

John O

John,

Not a problem![;)][:)][:)][;)]

BTW I like that picture in your sig, looks just like an LGB engine ( unless you click on it and it displays in the proper proportions); not quite like the prototype but you can still tell it's a steam engine. [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

[Bucksco]

The fishing song

(Frere Jaques)

Let's go fishing,

Let's go fishing,

At the Lake,

Oh it's great,

Early in the morning,

Hope the fish aren't snoring,

Hurry don't be late,

We're fishing at the lake.

[johnandjulie13]

Hello HJ:

First off, I like your website, you have done a nice job with the site layout. I look forward to seeing it updated. Second, I am wondering why you appear to be so focused on the actual dimensions of models that are produced?

I am glad you like the Pennsy turbine picture. I also like the picture. Whether the picture is distorted or not makes no difference to me. It also makes no difference to me that my MTH model of that engine is or isn't prototypically accurate. I think it looks cool, so I like running it on my track. I also like running my PRR mikado on my LGB track. Am I being foolish for running a non-prototypical model? That is what you seem to be intimating.

Regards,

John O

[Bucksco]

>>Tell us Jack, what scale are these going to be?



......of course.

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by johnandjulie13

Hello HJ:

First off, I like your website, you have done a nice job with the site layout. I look forward to seeing it updated. Second, I am wondering why you appear to be so focused on the actual dimensions of models that are produced?

I am glad you like the Pennsy turbine picture. I also like the picture. Whether the picture is distorted or not makes no difference to me. It also makes no difference to me that my MTH model of that engine is or isn't prototypically accurate. I think it looks cool, so I like running it on my track. I also like running my PRR mikado on my LGB track. Am I being foolish for running a non-prototypical model? That is what you seem to be intimating.

Regards,

John O

Hi John,

The dimensional thing is very easy to explain. I've been "playing" with trains for 54 years, but the last 34 years I've been concentrating on scale model railroading. When some mfg advertises or other wise proclaims that; as an example

QUOTE: This LGB model is an authentic replica of the AMD103, as the Genesis is formally known, in Phase IV colors, and with it, you can model American passenger traffic on your layout.

then I expect that the item has a consistent, uniform scale.

The Genesis is just one example, there are many, many more in the LGB line up. Of course one could say that is strictly semantics, but as far as I know "replica" has a clear definition

QUOTE: A copy or reproduction, especially one on a scale smaller than the original.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation. All rights reserved.

Same goes for "authentic"

QUOTE: Conforming to fact and therefore worthy of trust, reliance, or belief

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation. All rights reserved.

BTW I'm glad you enjoy running your MTH or whatever else engine. No problem. [;)][:)][;)]
I have a slew of LGB rolling stock, but I choose very carefully. First because it has to fit a specific era and second my scale discrepancy tolerance is minimal. That is a direct result of modeling in HOm where the mfgs wouldn't even dream to pull the "close enough" stunts that are still quite common in Large Scale.
BTW as I understand from European sources LGB has no aversion to "borrow" a few ideas from BEMO (leading HOm mfg of RhB items). I think that is great, I just wi***hey would be a bit more attentive to what really sets the BEMO products apart: true scale! [;)][:)][;)]

[Bucksco]

“The artist who aims at perfection in everything achieves it in nothing." Eugene Delacroix


Back to interesting photos

[RhB_HJ]

"The model designer who can not replicate width, length and height in a consistent, uniform scale is an artist; namely a caricaturist" Hans-Joerg Mueller

[kstrong]

Jack,

Back to the wheels... They gonna be that small?

Later,

K

[Bucksco]

Yes- they are the production wheels.





K,
The model has much larger wheelflanges than the protoype.
If we duplicated the engineering (dimensions) of the actual prototype's wheels on the G model it would not be able to stay on the track. Sometimes the manufacturer has to compensate for running ability in a product that must preform well in the garden.

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kstrong

Jack,

Back to the wheels... They gonna be that small?

Later,

K

Kevin,

Larger wheels would mean the car rides even higher! And by the looks of it it is plenty high enough already.

On the wheel flanges, interestingly people who use Sierra Valley wheels have no problem keeping them on the tracks.
Very nice wheels with properly shaped tread, flanges and a fillet that does the job fillets on wheels are intended to do: keep things on the rail!

[kstrong]

Jack, you misunderstand. I'm not picking on the flanges. There's not a scale that doesn't benefit from them. (And while Sierra Valley wheels do roll beautifully, the discrepency between their flanges and those on most of my locomotives make switches difficult to engineer.) It's just that the standard LGB wheel scales out to around 32" in1:29, and the prototype Amfleet cars ride on 36" wheels. Flanges notwithstanding, that's a 4" difference in diameter, and is noticable when compared to the prototype. Tell me the protruding axle ends will at least be cut off.

Later,

K

[Bucksco]

Yes the Axles will be trimmed.

[tmcc man]

Jack, I think with some of the money I will get from work will go to the Genesis, and a few of the Amfleet cars. By the way, I am going to see the display in Epcot when I go to Florida

[Bucksco]

When are you going to Florida Colin?

[Anonymous]

Jack, Since RHB_HJ has been so vocal, I thought I would jump in. I own one LGB car (I own 3 -one from each 1:29 MFGer). ** large edit here, most of my large rather lengthy bash of LGB was here, I fould out today that the model I heavily critiqued was not a 55' hopper, but a 47' hopper, so my exaple of a bad scale error was wrong** But my I would prefer them to be closer to scale. I will look closely at each LGB model for accuracy before buying. (FYI, for those who had read my original post here, I found I was wrong, so I removed my error, my sincere apologies, please forgive me)