scales and manufacturers

[TonyWalsham]

Jack,
What is with this "G" Gauge thing.
There is no such gauge as " G" Gauge.
It is # 1 Gauge and has been for over 100 years. Ever since Maerklin invented it.

Or, is it LGB trying to re-invent the wheel? So to speak.

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bucksco

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P.S. - Didn't get a chance to fini***yping this before someone took a shot at me ![;)]

Poor Jack![;)][:D][:D][:D]

Didn't you know we have a "Scale and Manufacturers topic" alarm system at the office and the production shop; it's tuned to many of the Large Scale fora in both English and German.
If I had known that you were about to post I would have held off. At least I hit your general "tenor" pretty accurately.

BTW you really need to speak with the "Vaterhaus", on their website they still prominently feature:

QUOTE: LGB is big. The letters "LGB" stand for "Lehmann Gross Bahn" or "Lehmann's Big Train." LGB trains are G-scale (generally 1:22.5) - four times larger than conventional HO-scale trains (1:87).

Direct quote from http://www.lgb.de/english/was_ist_lgb/was_ist_lgb.asp

I added the Italics so it is either to see what LGB Germany (aka EPL) mentions on this score.
Personally I have no problem with 1:22.5 scale, I just wi***hat LGB would adhere to it more often. Especially when it comes to RhB items.[;)][;)][:)][:D] 1:22.5 would be a perfect fit!

PS the C2012 has arrived, but it will be next week before I get to measuring. Since this topic is perfect for a little illustration of the "problem", I will gladly post a drawing and the table for all the different measurements. It will be interesting to see how many different scales are combined in that one coach. [;)][;)][:)][;)]

[Bucksco]

Richard,
At the risk of being ripped to shreds for posting this you might want to check out this pdf:
http://www.lgb.de/pdf/GChartDE.pdf
And before everybody out there jumps all over me about scale fidelity I need to point out the fact that LGB does not claim to produce a particular "scale". We manufacture a program of "G" gauge trains that can all interact well with each other within that program. In other words if you run LGB trains with LGB trains they will all look and perform well together -functionally and esthetically.
This is not everybody's cup of tea (as you will see from the responses that are posted in reaction to my post!).
LGB is "G" gauge-45mm.

P.S. - Didn't get a chance to fini***yping this before someone took a shot at me ![;)]

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Kellis

Wow, this looks like more of a headache then a hobby lol...

I feel so lost...

Well, I returned my bachmann engine now I guess I am looking for a new one..

It looks like LGB is what I have to stick with if I want to keep it in scale... I was thinking of switching but I kinda like this old Pola building I have and it would be a shame to waste that $120

Rich,

Yep, you stick with LGB and you will be "well served" in the "Scale" department.
Of all the manufacturers, LGB is the least likely to tell you what scale (as in "a specific ratio to the prototype") it is. If you want to find out you need to buy an item and measure it, compare it to the prototype and then you know. When you do that with North American models, please let us in on the nitty gritty.[;)][;)][:D]

BTW LGB is also the mfg with the most number of scales in the product line-up. They are so versatile, they have no problem incorporating three and more different scales in the same item. The more features you measure the more different scales you will find.
But it all looks "good" together i.e. from the Maine two-footers to large modern hoppers it all fits into the same cubic space or cross section (more or less).

If Jack Lynch joins the discussion he will likely tell you that it all fits "G Scale" or "G Gauge" (depends on the day of the week[;)][:p][;)]) and that LGB is a TOY manufacturer.
Soooooo if you aspire to be a garden model railroader, choose carefully.[;)][;)][:D]

[Anonymous]

Wow, this looks like more of a headache then a hobby lol...

I feel so lost...

Well, I returned my bachmann engine now I guess I am looking for a new one..

It looks like LGB is what I have to stick with if I want to keep it in scale... I was thinking of switching but I kinda like this old Pola building I have and it would be a shame to waste that $120

[Curmudgeon]

Oh, boy.
First, they don't care.
They sell all they make.
Like a Warbonnet GP-9.

Anyway, older USA, 1:22.5 (LGB Clones)
Newer, 1:29, including locos.

Bachmann- Big Hauler, all rolling stock less V-dump, 1:22.5.
Most Spectrum engines, 1:20.

LGB- Suitable For Large Scale.

Aristo- Basically 1:29, Classic 1:24.

Delton is 1:24.

Lionel mostly 1:32. (the older, small freight cars is anybodies guess).

MDC, 1:32, except what's not (like the caboose is 1:24).

Mikey is 1:32.

I don't think it's quite as important than revealing the specific prototype so we can figure it out on our own.

TOC

[tangerine-jack]

I wish I had better news for you, but this battle has been raging for a long time. As Keith said, it would be easier if the manufacturer would TELL US WHAT FRIGGIN' SCALE IT IS!!!! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!! MANUFACTURERS"??? ARE YOU LISTENING????

[folkestonekeith]

some manufacturers make models in different scales - what I think is most important is that all manufacturers clearly state in their catalogues, websites and adverts what scale is used for each model.....a simple solution one would think......

[Anonymous]

Did anybody make a list of which company makes what size?

Because such a thing would be very useful... I just realised how big of a different 1:20.3 and 1:22.5 is (atleast I think it is 22.5, whatever lineol used to make...)

I think I am going to go 22.5, since I have 4 cars and 1 building that is such size. So knowing what to buy from where would be a big help.

Thanks,
Richard