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Agricultural vs Industrial: A new controversy?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 7:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tangerine-jack

Interesting point, Ben. I wonder how many garden RRs evolve in a prototypical manner ie. starting out sparse or "agricultural" then evolving as our personal finances increase into a more "industrial" flavor. Mine seems to be doing just that as my new addition is almost exclusively modern-urban, and the Old Line is very much a cheesy tourist trap (you should see how much I charge for drinks!). I'll check back on this topic after my short hiatus and see what got stirred up.[oX)]


I would like to see your "modern urban" section.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 7:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bennysrr

It started in the rural areas with the trains going through, to move the live stock , the stock yards started along the tracks, then grain elevators move their . so now you have industry and agricultural working together., and you still need trains to move the economy . [2c] Ben


Mine is Agricultural becuase of the garden aspect. Stoctyards will be forthcoming. I would love grain elevators. Marty and Bman seem to have the best I have thus far seen. If you have some on your layout, please let me in on it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 7:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tangerine-jack

ARGHHH! Not another controversy!

Well, not being one to miss an opportunity to shoot off my mouth, or stick my foot in it for that matter, I will weigh in with this:
Rural is easier because it utilzes most of the natural environment we are in by virtue of being outdoors. Industrial requires a lot of structures which are subject to the depravations of that said environment. HOWEVER: a rural only RR has no purpose with out some industry to justify it's existance.

My solution (and since this is to be another controversy I will say it's the correct and superior solution) is to have your RR a rural tourist line. You have industry (tourism) in a rural environment, with your choice of structures representing any industry you happen to want along the way that the tourist would enjoy looking at, and if desired, a town to provide the tourist a place to spend thier money.

Ok, y'all, let's do it!!!![:D][:D][:D][oX)]


OK, I promise, this will be the last controversy thread in a long while. I, however, must admit that I have had a good time reading all the posts. I, again however, don't want to cause so much friction to the friendships herein by making posts based on "political forum" formulae.

I have considered building some industrial structures our of earthenware clay and backing them in a kiln. So long as the walls aren't too think it will bake just fine and it will last. What would y'all think of this? is it possible or too difficult? I made some Revolutionary War chess figures out of this material and they seemed just fine.

I have played witht he tourism angle, it think a railroad's primary goal should be to haul things, thus my rail line will serve two functions- Tourism/commuter Passenger and agricultural frieght. The Induatrial will come later as I develop methods to build the structures.






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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 4:01 PM
Having thought long and hard ,my garden is going to slowly turn into a tram (trolley for the US ) line.I'll keep the mainline for the children (and me) but I like the idea of a limited inter village tram service (after all,it takes a while to walk up the garden for a beer ).The children can run the main line and I will sneak in with my trams and steal their passengers!!
The added advantage of running trams is that I have to scratchbuild them all.Keeps me amused in the winter months.
I maybe an oddity but sometimes I enjoy the buiding more than the running.
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Posted by tangerine-jack on Friday, October 29, 2004 3:07 PM
Interesting point, Ben. I wonder how many garden RRs evolve in a prototypical manner ie. starting out sparse or "agricultural" then evolving as our personal finances increase into a more "industrial" flavor. Mine seems to be doing just that as my new addition is almost exclusively modern-urban, and the Old Line is very much a cheesy tourist trap (you should see how much I charge for drinks!). I'll check back on this topic after my short hiatus and see what got stirred up.[oX)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 2:18 PM
It started in the rural areas with the trains going through, to move the live stock , the stock yards started along the tracks, then grain elevators move their . so now you have industry and agricultural working together., and you still need trains to move the economy . [2c] Ben
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Posted by tangerine-jack on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:38 PM
ARGHHH! Not another controversy!

Well, not being one to miss an opportunity to shoot off my mouth, or stick my foot in it for that matter, I will weigh in with this:
Rural is easier because it utilzes most of the natural environment we are in by virtue of being outdoors. Industrial requires a lot of structures which are subject to the depravations of that said environment. HOWEVER: a rural only RR has no purpose with out some industry to justify it's existance.

My solution (and since this is to be another controversy I will say it's the correct and superior solution) is to have your RR a rural tourist line. You have industry (tourism) in a rural environment, with your choice of structures representing any industry you happen to want along the way that the tourist would enjoy looking at, and if desired, a town to provide the tourist a place to spend thier money.

Ok, y'all, let's do it!!!![:D][:D][:D][oX)]

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Agricultural vs Industrial: A new controversy?
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:23 PM
After the sucesses of the last post I made (over 100 replies in a week! Wow, thanks guys and gals. We covered alot of ground!) I thought I would try a less "in your face" topic.

I have noticed, and you too if you have visited the admittedly limited work I have done on my website, that my style and culture of my layout is Agricultural. I like the "small town" rural look since that is the land of my upbringing. This aside, in one of my photographs I accidentally caught a gas meter in the background. I then began to ponder an industrial section.

In the modeling of your layout (i.e. prototypes) do you like to model rural or urban railroads?

Is there a favoring of rural layouts in large scale?

Is it because only rural structures are offered? Or is it that rural is easier? Or is it the Gardening aspect of it that is the true culprit!?

Is an industrial motiff too ugly, or too expensive?

Debate Topic:

Resolved: That most model railroads in Large Scale have a rural style and that industrial scenes are more cumbersome than rural ones.

Have at it my fine friends!

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