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www.wholesaletrains.com- does anybody have any information on them?
Posted by SantaFe158 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:00 PM
My dad and I are looking to replace two worn out (older plastic versions) trucks on our Bachmann Two truck shay and are looking at buying some here. My dad's hesitant about giving them his credit card number to them without any information. I have never bought anything from here and would like any reports I can get on them.
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Posted by PJM20 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:33 PM

I have heard they are a good outfit, but I have no buying experience with them. Have fun with your shay. - Peter

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Posted by SantaFe158 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:45 PM
Thanks for the help, the shay is kept at my grandpas house since his collection is all G scale, and mine here is all o scale lionel. It's one of my favorite locomotives, I just added "sound" meaning a chuff sound torn out of one of the Bachmann 4-6-0's which is nice, but a few weeks ago, I noticed a truck was coming loose and so while I had it torn apart to tighten it up, I noticed one of the screws that hold the wheels on was missing and the plastic bushing inside the wheel was worn down to practically nothing, so it's time to replace it with a diecast one. Plus the thing is heavy to begin with, I can't imagine the weight with Diecast trucks.
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Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:46 PM

I've never purchased anything from them but Trainworld has what you are looking at. I have purchased things from trainworld before and everything was fine. Trainworld also seems to ship fast.

http://www.trainworldonline.com/catalog/category/detail.php?id=1600&find_section=566

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Posted by SantaFe158 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:49 PM
How are the shipping costs at trainworld? I've heard they're high at wholesaletrains.com. I know my grandfather has bought stuff at Trainworld before, and it's also a very well known company, but there's also a $20 difference in cost.
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Posted by SantaFe158 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 2:51 PM
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My dad and I are looking to replace two worn out (older plastic versions) trucks on our Bachmann Two truck shay and are looking at buying some here. My dad's hesitant about giving them his credit card number to them without any information. I have never bought anything from here and would like any reports I can get on them.
BTW, a video of the Locomotive running can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Js7FsyqJk It still runs ok, but I'd rather have a good part on it.
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Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 3:16 PM

At Trainworld the minimum shipping cost is $13.

http://www.trainworldonline.com/Policies.php

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Posted by Valleycrest RR on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 4:42 PM

I went to their store in Horseheads, NY once and bought a few things. They seem like nice people.

They have a medium selection in the store. They have a lot more online.

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 4:44 PM

I've purchased items from wholesaletrains.com aka Lantz's Train Shop in Horseheads, New York, on a couple of occasions and had no problems with them.  Shipping is fast if the item(s) are in stock.

Some users on this forum have reported problems with what they considered to be excessive shipping charges, so I would try to verify what those are going to be before placing an order.

IIRC the main complaint was that they offer no options on shipping method and use only FedEx or UPS because they are reportedly just across the street from the shipper's offices.

For my Bachmann 2-truck Shay, I ordered parts directly from Bachmann.

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Posted by SantaFe158 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:08 PM
cacole
For my Bachmann 2-truck Shay, I ordered parts directly from Bachmann.
I looked into buying the parts from bachmann, the parts department told me it would be $100 and I'm pretty certain that that was for a single truck, I'd rather replace both for $40 more. For the pair from bachmann it would be $275
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Posted by ttrigg on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 6:19 PM

Credit card purchases: If you are looking for better security with internet purchases, especially the first few times with a particular vendor, here is a hint for total identity protection. Most vendors will hold your shopping basket for a few days. If your purchase (include shipping) is under $100, go to your favorite local store, there at the checkout register you will find "Gift Credit Cards." I get mine at Wally-World all the time. If someone "steals the identity" of that transaction then they will not know who you are now anything else about you. The card automatically "dies" when it is all spent. Wally-World has a site where you can track purchases on these disposable credit cards, after my purchase has cleared, I write down the remaining money on the card and then go to Wally-World and take cash in that amount out of the card. It may be a cumbersome process but nobody can get to my credit cards.

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Posted by PJM20 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 7:54 PM

I see we have our own "Q" - Bond: "You're cleverer than you look." Q: "Still, better than looking cleverer than you are." - Wikipedia, Big Smile - Peter

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Posted by Mt Beenak on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 10:00 PM
When I bought my die-cast trucks Bachmann only sold them as a pair, and they were around $100. I have never seen them listed singularly.

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Posted by Greg Elmassian on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:12 AM

I have purchased from Wholesale Trains. I would have no problem giving them my CC and that's how I purchased my products.

I had a problem with a particular purchase, and at the time I was not happy with the outcome.

Years later I mentioned this on an Internet forum and Gary Lantz came on the forum and rectified my problem. 

I took this as a very professional and honorable thing to do. The problem I had was with an employee who is no longer with the company, and I am impressed with their willing and speedy correction to a problem so old.

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Posted by grandpopswalt on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:54 AM

ttrigg

Credit card purchases: If you are looking for better security with internet purchases, especially the first few times with a particular vendor, here is a hint for total identity protection. Most vendors will hold your shopping basket for a few days. If your purchase (include shipping) is under $100, go to your favorite local store, there at the checkout register you will find "Gift Credit Cards." I get mine at Wally-World all the time. If someone "steals the identity" of that transaction then they will not know who you are now anything else about you. The card automatically "dies" when it is all spent. Wally-World has a site where you can track purchases on these disposable credit cards, after my purchase has cleared, I write down the remaining money on the card and then go to Wally-World and take cash in that amount out of the card. It may be a cumbersome process but nobody can get to my credit cards.

 

 

Tom,

 

That's a good idea. Another approach is to get a credit card with a very low credit limit. You can use that card when dealing with a seller that you're not comfortable with. The worst that can happen is they get your name and that card's info.

 

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Posted by powlee on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 8:43 AM
I would recommend Wholesale Trains, have purchased many spare parts and rolling stock over the years. Always use a credit card on the internet, have to, I live in the UK. Phone calls can be expensive.

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Posted by lownote on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:26 AM

 They are not my favorite retailer, but i have used them and still do. They are sometimes great, if they have the item in stock. My main issue with them is they are happy to sell you things they don't actually have in stock. You pay, and then....nothing. Eventually the item arrives, but they give you no info whatsoever on when. Case in point, I have two USAT motor blocks on order. It's been more than a month, and I still have no idea at all when they will or won't arrive.

Also I once bought a USAT loco from them that arrived, brand new in the box, with the infamous "cracked axles." Wholesaletrains would do nothing for me, I had to send it directly back to USAT. 

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Posted by DennisB on Thursday, August 5, 2010 6:50 AM

I am from Canada and have spent some serious coin thru Wholesale Trains. Good service prompt delivery and no credit card problems. Regards, Dennis.

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Posted by simisal on Thursday, August 5, 2010 10:55 PM

I have purchased items from them at different times and was happy with both price and service. I have used my credit card without a problem but if your not sure you can use pay pal (ebay) for your purchase. You can generate a one time card for the purchase if you want.

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Posted by jmiller3v on Sunday, August 8, 2010 1:47 PM

 I use Wholesale Trains - so far so good.

 Only suggestions - figure out a way to give updates, since I have yet to figure out when the package is going to ship.

And of course, some clue on shipping costs up front.

Other than that, I will continue to use them on a regular basis.

 

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Posted by commander on Friday, August 13, 2010 3:42 PM

This post is as of 8-13-2010, regarding Wholesale Trains.  I have used them several times because of the best prices on the items I wanted to purchase.  No problems with security or credit card use. 

That being said, like many of the posts prior to this one, they have two problems... 1) Very high shipping costs compared to the overall order, and 2) availability & backorders without any indications of total expected back in stock dates. 

In the case of my current order of one railcar and 10 Kaydee 831's ordered on 8-2-2010, they sent the railcar by UPS on 8-10 and then sent the couplers by FexEX on 8-13.  The single order totaled $133.39 but the split shipment cost me $29.62 in total shipping.  That's about 23% of the total purchase amount... which is, as others have said..."excessive".   Many of the internet merchants do not charge the customer additional shipping for merchant decisions to split orders or back orders to complete an intitial single purchase order.  Likewise, many merchants know thier inventories and will advise you if someting will need to be backordered.  I think that future orders for my needs, will be placed with merchants which can both tell you what is in stock, and if spliting the purchase orders are necessary, not charge the customer for excessive additional shipping, or at least in the intital order allow you to tell them to not ship until the order is complete.  I suppose that could have been done for Wholesale Trains in the "comments section", but I did not have the back order knowledge until after placing the order. 

Live and learn I guess...  

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Posted by lownote on Friday, August 13, 2010 6:02 PM

Yes, they give you no clue about inventory. To recap and update what I posted above: five weeks ago ordered a pair of USAT motor trucks, listed on their website as "available." No items, no news. I emailed wholesale trains last week and asked. Got a prompt reply saying "USAT Is usually fast but they have been very slow to ship." Ok. So while I'm there at their website I notice a different motor truck that would be perfect for a kitbashing project. It says "next day." I order it. That was last week--no sign of it. The website just says "this item has not yet shipped."

 

Makes me resolve not to do business with them in the future--"next day" has a really clear meaning in most of the world

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Posted by PIKO-Man on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:42 PM

 Sorry for the late reply.  I have dealt with the fine folks at Wholesale Trains (also known as Lantz's Train Shop) for many years and never heard anything bad about them.  Gary and Lisa Lantz and their crew seem to take good care of their customers.  Train World was also mentioned in another post.  They, too, are a large and reputable outfit.

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Posted by spikejones52002 on Monday, August 23, 2010 3:27 PM

I too did not like Whole sale trains policy. it has been several years now, BUT. I called to purchase something I thought would be a bargain. After they explained their policy I hung-up the phone.

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Posted by St Francis Consolidated RR on Monday, August 23, 2010 5:01 PM

     This isn't exactly answering your question about the various on-line shops, but there's an old-timer there in Philadelphia at Bachmann who is in charge of repairs and who does repairs...can't remember his name because I always call him Doc. I know you want replacements, and you won't get off the phone any time soon with him (!), but he'll get you straightened away.

     p.s.....you may want to talk to him anyway just to make sure you get the right trucks and all.

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Posted by SHINDIG on Friday, September 3, 2010 7:22 AM

VERY FAIR ON $$$$$$$. THEY KEEP A GOOD STOCK ON PARTS. WHATS BAD IS SHIPPING COST, NOT THERE FALT. DOING BIZ WITH THEM FOR YEARS.

SHINDIG

P.S SOMETIMES IT HARD GETTING PARTS DUE TO WAITING FOR THE (SLOW BOAT FROM CHINA).A LOT OF TRAIN CO HAVE CHINA MAKE OUR STUFF. I MISS STATE SIDE CO. MAKING OUR TRAINS.

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Posted by Nataraj on Saturday, September 4, 2010 3:02 AM

Yeah ive bought from them before. Great prices... even cheaper than trainworld sometimes Surprise

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Posted by DennisB on Saturday, September 4, 2010 8:03 AM

I have dealt with Trainworld and Ridge Road Station since 1997. Both offer fast shipping and you will pay for that.  I ask for what I order to be shipped by USPS. It only takes two weeks and I live in southwestern Ontario, Canada. Very reliable when it comes to using your credit card. Regards, Dennis.

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Posted by spikejones52002 on Saturday, September 4, 2010 3:46 PM

Be careful of shipping. some how U.P.S. has ties up some murchents inventory. I demanded U.S.P.S. shipping from an Outdoor supplier. I received it U.S.P.S. after U. P. S. delivered it to my local Post Office. I paid for both shipping costs.

U.P.S. is the worst for any delivery. I have a front enclosed porch. I found my M.T.H. "G" Big boy sitting for a full day by my exposed side door. One of my M.T.H. GG-1 was split open.

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Posted by skippygp123 on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 10:48 AM

I've purchased from both TrainWorld and Wholesale Trains. 

TrainWorld's shipping costs are way out of line, in my opinion.  Their prices for locomotives and cars are cheaper than the competition because they tack on higher than necessary mailing costs.  TrainWorld also tends to be out of stock on a lot of items their website shows they have.  I've stopped buying from them.  I'd rather pay a little more for the item and know that I'm getting fair mailing costs added on than to deal with TrainWorld.

I usually buy my parts from Al Kramer who goes by "ana.kramer" on ebay.  He has great prices and doesn't charge a lot for shipping.  He's more than willing to combine shipping and pack things together for you to save you $$. He stocks all kinds of things from a lot of different companies or has them "drop shipped" to you (sent directly from the factory) for a lot less than what the manufacturer's website lists.

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