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Posted by RhB_HJ on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 11:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bluebonnet - 71

Hans,

I would like to hear you and everones input as to any and everything to add to the Phase I.
Even Rene, if she has cought up with paper work by now [;)] or she might be searching for a screen saver of the Falls [:D]


William,

It's a-coming.

The next step will be the elevations and basic contours - I'm sure you have a bobcat to move dirt around[;)][:D] - together with the water features, bridges and any straight tunnels I decide would look good and not be a maintenance pain.

On moving dirt: it would help to have some sketch of what the lay of the land is. The less dirt to be moved, the better; bobcat or no bobcat.

I'm in the process of upgrading one of the office 'puters which means I'll be super busy towards the end of the week with moving things from here to there. Thank heavens for LANs!
And I'm keeping my fingers crossed that "Mr.Murphy" will amuse himself elsewhere!

End of next week will be structures, towns, industries etc. etc. together with the access ways.
Being as a standard road - country variety - is a bit more than 8" wide, using a road network with strategically positioned parking lots and such would be handy for access. What do you think?

On the structures etc. bit I'm planning on doing the layout in sections starting from the top. At least that way things will show in the drawing. [2c][2c]
Cheers HJ http://www.rhb-grischun.ca/ http://www.easternmountainmodels.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by John Busby

Hi iandor
Don't think he will like sandgroper territory much iether[:D]


I get my sand wholesale @ 25.00 a semi truck bed full with little to no clay.
Landscapers edge, he has hauled for me the past 3 yrs. Good guy.
And again if any wants plant help just ask. Will need you hardness zone and will see what I can come up with.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bman36

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bluebonnet - 71

Brain,

I have 10 acres.

Don't want to leave it there until things are more secure. Later eh...Brian.


[}:)] Landmines? [;)][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RhB_HJ

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bluebonnet - 71

Hans,

I would like to hear you and everones input as to any and everything to add to the Phase I.
Even Rene, if she has cought up with paper work by now [;)] or she might be searching for a screen saver of the Falls [:D]


The next step will be the elevations and basic contours - I'm sure you have a bobcat to move dirt around[;)][:D] - together with the water features, bridges and any straight tunnels I decide would look good and not be a maintenance pain.

On moving dirt: it would help to have some sketch of what the lay of the land is. The less dirt to be moved, the better; bobcat or no bobcat.


No Bobcat, I have a Case on tracks, like a Cat.
While back that area was leveled by box blade and is very high land with a difference to the sides which I will post and send you pictures via email.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RhB_HJ

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bluebonnet - 71

Hans,

I would like to hear you and everones input as to any and everything to add to the Phase I.
Even Rene, if she has cought up with paper work by now [;)] or she might be searching for a screen saver of the Falls [:D]

End of next week will be structures, towns, industries etc. etc. together with the access ways.
Being as a standard road - country variety - is a bit more than 8" wide, using a road network with strategically positioned parking lots and such would be handy for access. What do you think?

On the structures etc. bit I'm planning on doing the layout in sections starting from the top. At least that way things will show in the drawing. [2c][2c]


That sounds cool, like to see what others could come up with also.
I am the type of boss that ask his workers there thoughts. With that being said now you know why I am so open to suggestions.

And Hans, I WILL get those digital photos in AM.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 1:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bluebonnet - 71

QUOTE: Originally posted by RhB_HJ

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bluebonnet - 71

Hans,

I would like to hear you and everones input as to any and everything to add to the Phase I.
Even Rene, if she has cought up with paper work by now [;)] or she might be searching for a screen saver of the Falls [:D]

End of next week will be structures, towns, industries etc. etc. together with the access ways.
Being as a standard road - country variety - is a bit more than 8" wide, using a road network with strategically positioned parking lots and such would be handy for access. What do you think?

On the structures etc. bit I'm planning on doing the layout in sections starting from the top. At least that way things will show in the drawing. [2c][2c]

And Hans, I WILL get those digital photos in AM.


Well photos are up and RhB_HJ has a copy. http://santafetx.tripod.com/
Did this in the rain [:(] I was soooo happy to do that....lol
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 2:06 AM
Nice pics Bluebonnet, intricate is the word I'm looking for I think.
Cheers,
Kim
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 2:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kimbrit

Nice pics Bluebonnet, intricate is the word I'm looking for I think.
Cheers,
Kim
[tup]


Thanks Kim, I am working on it ......slowly
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Posted by jmozz on Thursday, July 8, 2004 7:23 AM
Bluebonnet wow ,wow, you must be going crazy with everything going on nice pics. did you make the tanks yourself jmozz
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 8:15 PM
Hans Hans where are you mate, I didn't mean it all is forgiven.

Captain Kangaroo.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 8:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jmozz

Bluebonnet wow ,wow, you must be going crazy with everything going on nice pics. did you make the tanks yourself jmozz

jmozz

No, no...those tanks are not mine. Those are Marty Cozads tanks he built. Photos are just for referance.
Other photos are from a unk. person. Just watch above pitcure if it is some one elses then credit is given[:)]
And I think it (photos) gave Bman a idea for his GRR. Which is great because it is shared info from me to all. [:D]
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by iandor

Hans Hans where are you mate, I didn't mean it all is forgiven.

Captain Kangaroo.


Ian [:)]

I was mulling it over and checking if there's really postal service between Oz and the Great White North.[:o)][:o)] Just kidding![;)][:)]

I'll send you an email on the weekend. Still puttering on the 'puter, new one get's here tomorrow and I want to have things ready which means moving A to B and B to C and so on..and so on. It's always a delight!
Cheers HJ http://www.rhb-grischun.ca/ http://www.easternmountainmodels.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 9, 2004 12:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RhB_HJ

QUOTE: Originally posted by iandor

Hans Hans where are you mate, I didn't mean it all is forgiven.

Captain Kangaroo.


Ian [:)]

I was mulling it over and checking if there's really postal service between Oz and the Great White North.[:o)][:o)] Just kidding![;)][:)]


Would it be cheaper to send to me and the send to Oz?[:o)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 2:43 AM
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:11 PM
I am lost, I have forgotten what i wanted, but if i can remember I could take a photo of it and send it by email to you Hans mate.

On to the layout, Jack Verducci reckons that turnouts, switches and points are a steady source of annoyance, i am aiming not to have too many; yet I have three and another 5 planned and i would trather not have them, but what can you do?

Regards

ian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by iandor

I am lost, I have forgotten what i wanted, but if i can remember I could take a photo of it and send it by email to you Hans mate.

On to the layout, Jack Verducci reckons that turnouts, switches and points are a steady source of annoyance, i am aiming not to have too many; yet I have three and another 5 planned and i would trather not have them, but what can you do?

Regards

ian

Well, hmmmmmm can you "fix" the annoyance? Or is the track not layed yet?
Heck, look at mine, are they going to be a annoyance to me? I don't know till I try it.
I guess I should go with 8' radi, yet I have not spoken to Hans.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:48 PM
I bet they will; have as few points as possible and any on your main line make them R3 at least and try to enter them from the trailing end. I have trouble with mine and I have bought the best and really look after them. Something you wont read in too many places; if you have any double axle boggies don't use less than R3 ; R1 is said to be too small for double axles and I have found this myself.

Rgs


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 12:34 AM
iandor

This is getting to bug me because in the Garden Railways Magazine, August - 2004 issue on back you have Aristo Craft ad. I am going to take a quote out of it burns my back side.
"The Aristo-Craft Mallet Will look great on a big layout with generous curves yet it will be at home on railroads with a 8 foot diameter curve."

So, if there going to this I might as well. But what makes me mad is some people don't have enought land as I and the company/s are totaly off there dam rocker! What's next the train can only make a R5? 10'

I guess that is why MY company is doing very well landscaping because I HEAR the customer. Not do what I want. (I know some landscapers that do what they want too)

Really I would like to see there sales (every place) of these and see just how many sold and to who, large RR or med. RR or small RR.

Next what I am I going to do when layn track, do it like the RR? Because it is R3? You know tilt the track, watch the .......I shut up..blood pressure too high
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:09 PM
Web page update http://santafetx.tripod.com/index.html [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:30 PM
Well I am sorry if you are upset at this, but tht is what is said int hat Kalmback magazine and I will find it later and quote from it verbatim and i have found what he has to say is very accurate and from experience in the field; not just a lot of blokes (guys) sitting around giving opinions.

I have two R3 electrically operated switches and I have a bit of trouble with them, not much. But the the R1, I have which is also electrially operated and it must be "driven", by that when you have a double axle bogey (truck I think) even when coming from the trailing end, the switch must be in the correct direction or else the the rolling stock will "split the switch" and this happens more often than it doesn't. This is not aimed at any manufacturer, it is just what i have found with my layout. It is not to do with curves either, as I have taken good advice and kept curves right away from my switches. I don't even understand the mechanicas of it; its just what happens and Jack Verducci said it would and I didn't read that part carefully enough or else I would never have put in an R1 switch at all.

This further enhances what i have been saying all along, less is better and just feel your way, until you are comfortable with how you are going and what you have seen with your own two eyes. As what works for one may not work for others.


Regards ian

Truly if i could do without them I would.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 4, 2004 11:28 PM
Update: http://santafetx.tripod.com/

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