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Posted by BobbyDing on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 12:53 AM
I'm late to add my 2 cents, but....

Cute, Attractive and Affordable. Love them. Certainly a shot in the arm for O scale, as these would make really great holiday starter sets. Bravo to RMT. Their size makes them kind of like characatures of the real thing, but done with class. Are they available direct from RMT only? if not I think the LHS would do well to stock up on these for the holidays. As they could then sell track and xformer with them.

I'll be buying a few for sure. A small steamer would be cool. Hope they leave just enough space to add some electronics later (whistle and/or Command).

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Posted by 1688torpedo on Saturday, May 6, 2006 8:41 PM
Dave- If Walter made a Boxcar with a Picture of BB on it advertising the "Star Horse Dog Food Company" I sure would buy it for the fun of it.[:D][:o)][8D][;)] Take Care & remember " May the Horse be with you"[;)][:P][:o)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 6, 2006 1:47 PM
"I never received any promotional materials from them after that. And their website always seems to be lagging what's actually available. "
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I'm sure that's true, but I would rather see things stay as they are rather than see Walter be forced by expenses to raise his prices. His is a very small operation--just a couple of folks, I believe--and my guess is that product quality and price is enough to assure that the word gets spread to a decent degree.

Not knowing how Walter views or operates his business, I nevertheless imagine he's probably pretty darn happy with the way things have been going these past few years. I assume that there's a bit of a learning curve involved, and that BEEPs in some liveries, for example, sell a whole lot better than BEEPs in other liveries, but offering a large variety of BEEPs lets him see, in actual dollars-and-cents terms, just where he might go with subsequent products such as the BEEFs and PEEPs, or anything else he might plan.

I just check his website from time to time to see what's offered, but most of all I learn about his new products by regularly reading the various forums because as soon as something is announced, either Walter himself or one of his customers lets the whole O gauge world know about it in short order.

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Posted by palallin on Friday, May 5, 2006 2:39 PM
0-4-4-0 - The BABYBOY (being articulated, it has to have a multisyllabic name [;)] )

20' VandeCamp's boxcar - the BEEN

1-truck,1-cylinder Shay - the SHEEP

1 truck Heisler - the HEEP

1 truck Climax - the CHEEP (or the CLIP)

1 vat wine barrel car - the WEEP

Inexspensive boxcab (like a Rat) - the MOUSE

BEEP-like version of the GE U-boat - the U-DINGHY


I think I need to rest now. . . .
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Posted by jimhaleyscomet on Friday, May 5, 2006 1:37 PM
Boxcab engine.......Boxx.

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Posted by pbjwilson on Thursday, May 4, 2006 7:57 PM
Flat car with mini submarine - the Deep

Mini milk car - the Teet

Neil Young and Crazy Horse car - the Beat
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 4, 2006 7:16 PM
I guess that every manufacturer out there knows I would buy a good number of boxcab locomotives like the old Lionel 520 because I've harped enough about it in the past, dating back a good number of years. Just to make it clear: I'm talking about simple and affordable boxcabs, not the higher-end stuff ("Rats" and the like) that has been offered by several manufacturers in recent years.

The 520 was, of course, one of the least expensive locomotives Lionel ever cataloged (and closest to a genuine prototype), and I would expect any modern rendition to be faithful to the low price example it set, although certainly nowhere near the $9.95 tag that the original Lionel version carried.

Ideally, of course, a newer 520-like boxcab would have window inserts, lights, metal pantograph, and a can motor, and in the best of all worlds it would even have electro-couplers so it could actually perform realistic switching moves. But I'm also realistic enough to recognize that the remote couplers might not be a feasible feature on a modest-priced item, so that's a trade-off I would be willing to accept to keep the overall price low.

I have two of the original 520s that are both in pretty darn good shape, although one has a repro pantograph. Both of the little growlers I have run well, and even though they're the cheapest of the cheap, I still like them as well as any of my far more costly locomotives.

But I don't want to load Walter up with new ideas. He's taking things in deliberate and measured steps, and that's the way he should continue doing it, given the uncertainties of today's market. I'll be delighted when the BEEFs and PEEPs are available, and that will be good enough for me for a while. I'm planning to buy several B&O BEEFs and a bunch of the PEEPs when they're available--at least for a start--and then will wait to see what additional liveries are offered.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 4, 2006 5:26 PM
The BEEF appears to use the same four-wheel power chassis as the BEEP.

The BEEP, while not prototypical, has always looked at least plausible to me, something that could have existed had EMD chosen to make such a small switcher. The BEEF looks like something that should have existed, possibly EMD's answer to the Buddliner--half an engine, designed to pull a short passenger train.

I've suggested to Walter that he may want to make a boxcab shell to fit on his four-wheel power chassis. The boxcab mold could have an interchangeable roof so that it could be made as a boxcab electric (like the Lionel 520 of yore) (are you listening, Allan Miller?) or as an early boxcab diesel (something that has not been done by mainstream O-gauge manufacturers). I'll leave it to others to suggest clever monosyllabic names for these.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:42 AM
Ok,so when are we going to see some midget steam engines. Something like a minature Challenger would be nice. Easter
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Posted by phillyreading on Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:40 AM
Don't know what RMT will make next but the Rail Diesel Car is a good runner and very nicely done, I just got one for my layout. For about $75.00 with shipping I have a very good RDC Budd car, and it will pull two other unpowered passenger cars.
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Posted by jimhaleyscomet on Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:28 AM
For homemakers (like me) he could make the "sweep". Come to think of it that name would also work for a track cleaner car.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:01 AM
Does this mean that somebody will make O Scale Box Cars compressed to 20' and 25' long to match the lengths of the BEEF and the BEEP?

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Posted by 3railguy on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 11:10 PM
I was hoping they would squish a big boy into an 0-2-2-0
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Posted by FJ and G on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 8:26 PM
BB the beagle would like the name Beef Bone.[:D][:D][:D][:D]



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Posted by pbjwilson on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 8:12 PM
Originally posted by jaabat

What would Walter call half a GG1?

A Gpoint5?

A GEEF?

A Ghalf?

[/A nicely done 44 tonner would probably do ok as well.

Jim
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Posted by pbjwilson on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 8:06 PM
How about a track cleaning car - the Sweep

Halloween special - the Creep

Foul language sounds - the Bleep

For women only - the Streep (Meryl Streep)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 6:46 PM
I don't know how Walter keeps his prices so low, but I'm sure glad that he does! He has made it possible for me to have a half-dozen BEEPs and a couple of BUDDYs, and I can sure see a bunch of BEEFs and PEEPs in my future.

I've always been a big fan of small locomotives in general, and critters in particular, so I'm kind of a captive and willing market for the things Walter makes, along with some of those great Plymouth switchers from the now-defunct K-Line, Dockside switchers from Lionel, and other such products.
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Posted by FJ and G on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 6:20 PM
Jim says: "I wonder how does Walter manufacture and sell Beeps below $70 when no one else seems to do it below $100 and stay in business?"

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Yeah, makes me feel like a chump. G scale has had similar price offerings on critter locos for that price. Chump, chump, chump.[banghead][banghead]
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Posted by jimhaleyscomet on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 5:33 PM
You can also extend a wire into the plastic frog from the center rail. I did this on 027 switches (used a solder iron to just barely melt the wire into the frog) and it worked well. I like the two beep idea. I will try that one.

I wonder how does Walter manufacture and sell Beeps below $70 when no one else seems to do it below $100 and stay in business?

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Posted by douellet on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 2:00 PM
I haven't had any problem with my Buddies or Beeps stalling on 022 switches. I have to say the Beep is the better runner of the two. I like the idea of a 44 ton style loco mounted on Beep running gear. Other small locos using the same drivetrain would also be neat. Let's hope RMT keeps coming up with neat and affordable new products. [:)]
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Posted by Craignor on Friday, April 28, 2006 7:25 PM
Mike,

The fix for running Beeps through switches is adding a second Beep.

The second Beep pushes the first through the switch fast enough to prevent the first one from shifting into neutral.

I use Realtrax 0-72 switches and had the same problem as you. I emailed Walter about a fix, and he recommmeded the second Beep as a fix. It sounded like slick salesmanship, but it worked for me![:)]

Try it.
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Posted by msacco on Friday, April 28, 2006 4:38 PM
I don't know, I also think they look strange. I think the beep was better pulled off. These beefs are strangely compressed IMHO.
I must have an early Beef because, I really don't like the way mine runs. Stalls or balks on my 022 switches. Is there a remedy for this anyway.

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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, April 28, 2006 6:37 AM
If in fact the BEEF IS new tooling, then perhaps in the future he could offer some replicas of little switchers that once existed, like the first tiny diesel with drivers. Now that would be pretty exciting to see. I think then that he could capture the whimsical as well as the unwhimsicals. [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 6:35 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

Strasburg RR
The whole place is a bit distracting....what with the quality of the train and the steam engines and all.

Here is a link to pictures. One of the pictures has a watermark date of 1978 one 1998 and one 2002 so maybe it really has been a while since you visited.http://www.northeast.railfan.net/strasburg.html


Thanks for posting this link. I get there about once a month, but it IS hard keeping track of all they now have. In June '04 I had the privilage of riding in the cab of #475 during a run. Joe
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 4:04 AM
SAlthough it's true that Walter's BEEPs and BUDDY's had their origins based, in large part, on existing molds, I don't think that can be said of the BEEFs and PEEPs, which apparently are made with new tooling. At least I sure don't recall previous commercially made O gauge products created in those styles.

So I wouldn't count Walter out in regard to other innovative products that may be offered in the future (but probably not in the near future since I imagine he's pretty well occupied with getting the two new products out--and sold--now).

I have no idea what he might be thinking about for the longer-term future, but he's done a pretty good job, to date, in tickling folks fancy with the neat little products he has offered to this point.

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Posted by artyoung on Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:15 PM
I love my BEEP and am looking forward to the PEEPS. I wouldn't expect a 44 ton from Walter, since his pricing depends on using existing dies. BUT : does anybody else remember the old AHM "O" scale 0-8-0 kits ? Plastic-bodied steamers, not great pullers(back then, but motors have really improved since). I remember some fantastic kit-bashed Mallets shown in MR and the old OSR magazines. Would anybody consider a D-I-Y loco today ?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:20 PM
Alan those shorty ore cars are great. They actually are models of very common 19th century ore cars. They would be a great start for Lionel/K-line to begin a 19th century line or at least frieght for the Generals. I love mine and wish I could find more.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:08 PM
That Plymouth from K-Line in Strasburg livery is one item I'm certainly going to hang onto, since we're not likely to see it again in the near future. I guess I must have eight or ten different K-Line Plymouths--one of the nicer lower-end locomotives they ever produced. The matching sets of ore cars are darn nice, too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:01 PM
Strasburg RR has had a Plymouth since the begining. One was thier very first engine, It ran the first passenger runs and now stay in a supporting role in the background. They actually have two Plymouths #1 and #2. They also have a 44 tonner and 2 gas electrics. As a rule they try not to use them to haul passengers but the gas cars go out in the off season. I would not be surprised if you missed it. The whole place is a bit distracting....what with the quality of the train and the steam engines and all.

Here is a link to pictures. One of the pictures has a watermark date of 1978 one 1998 and one 2002 so maybe it really has been a while since you visited.http://www.northeast.railfan.net/strasburg.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:50 PM
I don't think you'll have to wait long before Walter comes out with some western roadnames. He likely elected to stay with some relatively simple paint schemes in the initial run (in roadnames that enjoy a good deal of popularity in the larger eastern market). But give the history of the BEEPs, the BEEFs will also be available in a rainbow of liveries in due time, and they may sell even better than the BEEPs.

Walter has found himself a very nice little niche here--maybe not so little, in fact.

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