<<cough>> <<cough>> Blasphemy?

[philo426]

I too tend to turn the smoke units off if i do not have visitors.My Mth engines smoke way too much and will fill the room with smoke in a very short period of time.I have heard that you can control the smoke output with DCS but I have not jumped on that bandwagon yet.My Lionel engines do not produce as much smoke but personally I do not really care to have my locos smoke very often.As for my diesels I do not put the smoke units on very often but keep a few drops of smoke fluid in them to keep the wicks from drying out.

[palallin]

Just a note: despite what we call it, the haze in the air produced by toy train smoke units is NOT smoke. It is a fog, and whatever ill-effects it might have, it is NOT the product of combustion.

[FJ and G]

I'm running my trains outside soon so will turn up to max smoke. Just wish I had me a live O gauge steamer; may have to get one from England.

[Anonymous]

I think the only engines that should smoke are steamers. diesels would blow out black smoke and the white smoke these trains put out is not correct. I test each engine I buy and after that i only turn on the smoke units when I show them to children. I rarely use the smoke units. If you don't like the smoke turn it off. the smoke is not good to breathe in also. If there is inadequate ventalation in your train room and you run several engines with the smoke units on then you have a gas chamber. I once had 12 engines on and smoking at idle and the whole room filled up with smoke. it just floated in the air. It reminded me of a gas attack in WWI. i just wanted to see how much smoke I could produce. I opened a window and used a box fan to evacute the smoke. If you have small children they like to breathe in the smoke to see what it smells like so be carefull with them. I say no to smoke.

[dwiemer]

Have mostly postwar Lionel. A few new Lionel, K-Line, Weaver, and others, but nothing clouding the air like some of the photos on post. As it turns out, wife has asthma and after a short time, the air gets too much for her. We have a little fun with it on, then turn it off. Dennis

[cnw1995]

I remember this thread. I'm not really using the smoke units anymore...probably just what I need to breath along with the radon...

[kopeck]

I like smoke.

My starter set 8041 smokes like a bugger and I love to watch it do it's thing, my 2036 is a much better unit then the 8041 but it lacks a smoke unit so it just seems to be missing something.

Luckily it looks like I'm going to be adding a new steamer to my postwar****nal so smoke will once again puff (well, once I get a layout up and running).

K

[tmcc man]

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[tmcc man]

Love smoke, cannot get enough of it. I plan on putting better smoke units in my steamers

[nblum]

Not blasphemy, but rather a strategy for staying healthy as long as possible ;).

[Anonymous]

Stopped fooling with smoke in 1997. All smoke switches off. Lot more relaxing not having to fool with fluid, wicks,etc.

[daan]

If i run a steamer it should steam; as much as possible. If the room gets clowdy, i open the window to let fresh air in. But when you're used to the Seuthe smoke units, you really start to love the huge amounts of smoke coming out of the stack. With the seuthe units I mostly was disappointed on the amount of smoke which was put out by it.
I have plenty of other machines without smoke to use along with a steamer.

[gvdobler]

I would venture a guess that a lot of people here have never seen a large steam engine up to speed in real life. The amount of smoke they put out is incredible.
There is a movie called Sirens with Hugh Grant that has a steamer coming thhrough a ravine and it fills it up with smoke.

The point is if a picture were true to life through digital enhancement, there would be a gret deal of smoke if it were to look accurate.

As the shrink said to Goldie Hawn in the movie Overboard, "Why don't we all smoke."

[otftch]

I have asthma and find it clogs me up.
Ed

[beefmalone]

compared to the amount put out by the real thing even the smokiest o-gauger is weak so for me more is better. Now if I could just get mine to work... :)

[underworld]

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[Buckeye Riveter]

I still can't get my handcar to smoke, but I'm working on it. Now, where did I put the lighter fluid?

[underworld]

The Surgeon General says that smoking is hazardous to your engines! [:p]

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[ole1]

Smoke like a lot of other things is mostly in the nose of the beholder. For those of us who are old enough to remember the time when all the prototypes were steam the air in a railroad town as well as everything in the town was usually gray. We savor the illusion today with our modern smoke fluid in various flavors but I doubt if anyone would enjoy more than the occasional excursion ride with the real thing. We run a variety of smokers on our clubs three rail layout and most are older Lionel and Marx units with the Lionels being converted to use liquid smoke oil and most are light to moderate puffers. The visitors, especially the kids,seem to enjoy them but with a somewhat enclosed area we aim for moderation. We also tell visitors that the engines are the only thing allowed to smoke in the club room. One of the fellows has modified one of his engines so it really puts out a lot of smoke but we reserve that one for the train show we do every year at the Agribition Center(huge cattle barn) where we can really let her rip. We've tried several sents of JT's Megasteam and that seems to work pretty well although the Forrest and Stream scent is the one the HO guys call Fluffy Flowers. The're probably just jealous but like I said its all in the nose of the beholder. Ole

[Anonymous]

The newer MTH Premier Steam locomotives have a potentiometer control for the smoke volume. Those who (sadly) do not yet have DCS, can control the smoke volume manually from the pot.

As others stated above, smoke on TMCC locomotives is an "on or off" proposition.

[Anonymous]

All TMCC engines, steamers as well as diesels, can have their smoke output controlled from the remote. You can turn it on or off with the remote. I believe that's all you can do -- turn it on or off.

As far as labored chuffing is concerned, you have that option. I don't know if that affects the smoke output.

Tony

[FJ and G]

I don't smoke, but about once every month or two I enjoy a good cigar

[Anonymous]

I guess working in large power plants and generating stations all my life has given me an aversion to the smell of burnt lube or hydraulic oil. After all, that’s what train smoke really is, burnt mineral oil. So naturally, all my modern era loco’s smoke switches are turned off. Give me a postwar steamer and a bottle of Smoke Pellets and I’m a happy guy.
BillFromWayne
www.modeltrainjournal.com

[Anonymous]

Hey everyone,I'm jealous. the only way I can get my low end steamers tosmoke that much is to hold them down while I keep the juice on. I call that the boiler pressure check. Don't do it for too long though. Easter

[Anonymous]

I love smoke.

The more the better.

I too, am using JT's Megasteam, which, in combination with MTH smoke units, results in more smoke than I ever thought possible. If the room gets to clouded with it, I do shut if off until it disapates (of course I turn it on again, then).

[spankybird]

Jimbo has hit it on the head. There are several adjustment that DCS can do to change the smoke output.
1. adjusting the chuff rate will change the smoke amount. Factory defult is 2 per rev. but can be changed from 1 to 16 per rev.

2. smoke volume can be set from off, low, med (factor setting) to high.

3. when pressing labor/rev up, it will also increase the smoke output or decrease when on drift.

You also have a button on the remoke to just turn the smoke on or off.

[ChiefEagles]

TMCC diesels have off and on smoke from remote. I think they have a labored smoke for steam engines but do not own any.

[Jim Duda]

The smoke output control in DCS is GREAT! You can choose Off - Low - Med - High - Off while the loco is moving...all from your handheld controller. Further, since I control the track voltage to the TIU through a Variable channel, I can "adjust" the track voltage to anything that is available from the transformer handle. e.g., if "low" is not enough smoke and "medium" is too much, I can cut back the voltage to suit. Additionally, you can hit the Labor/Rev Up or Drift/Rev Dn to further adjust it. ...or just keep it off.

TMCC has similar controls (I think) but probably not as precise as DCS. The folks that operate at Train Shows, are the real experts at smoke control and I'd like to know how often they use it.
Obviously, Spanky uses his and can further comment...