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Post pics of your Fairbanks Morse Trainmasters!
Posted by philo426 on Thursday, December 8, 2022 3:39 PM

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, December 8, 2022 5:42 PM

This isn't mine, but I've got one JUST like it!  Big Smile

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:16 PM

Nice Green instead of the Orange and Blue scheme!

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, December 8, 2022 7:00 PM

philo426

Nice Green instead of the Orange and Blue scheme!

 

Yeah, it's always puzzled me why Lionel did the Orange (properly tangerine) and Blue scheme on the 1950's produced Trainmaster since it was totally incorrect. Trainmasters were always in "Sea Green" with "Dulux Gold" striping. Lionel's people could have taken a short ride to Jersey City to see for themselves!  

However, the initial deliveries of FM's 1500 horsepower roadswitchers to the Jersey Central were in blue with orange stripes!  Here's one of them.

http://archives.anthraciterailroads.org/view_image.php?photoID=40

A little Trainmaster lore, Jersey Central crews ALWAYS tried to run Trainmasters short-hood forward whenever possible, and it usually was.  The reason being if a Trainmaster was run long-hood forward diesel exhaust fumes would drift into the cab nauseating the crews! 

Anyway, I got trainshow "Right-time, right-place!" lucky with that TM, and I didn't pay anywhere near $395.95 for it!  

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Posted by Dave45681 on Monday, December 12, 2022 11:15 AM

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Yeah, it's always puzzled me why Lionel did the Orange (properly tangerine) and Blue scheme on the 1950's produced Trainmaster since it was totally incorrect.

 

I don't know if I've ever read/heard something of this sort in the past to make me think this (so I'm just thinking out loud here, not claiming this to necessarily be historical fact), but I half wonder if Lionel picked that paint scheme due to it being close to the Orange and Blue of the company colors.

It's not like they made an Orange and Blue Santa Fe or NYC F3 ;).  But I could see given the choices, they might have picked the colors correct for the road name, but not that particular engine for this reason.

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, December 12, 2022 1:06 PM

Plus it is a Pretty Striking paint scheme that could attract buyers ,like the Red and silver Sante Fe Warbonnet scheme  

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, December 12, 2022 1:34 PM

It is a little over the top ,so I went on the Bay and found a beater Lackawanna body that had been poorly repainted  Stripped it down and painted it for my NYC scheme...

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, December 12, 2022 3:59 PM

philo426

Plus it is a Pretty Striking paint scheme that could attract buyers ,like the Red and silver Sante Fe Warbonnet scheme  

 

That's as good an explanation as any.  The tangerine and blue scheme WAS pretty striking on the Jersey Central's F3's, but it didn't hold up well.

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Posted by pennytrains on Monday, December 12, 2022 6:50 PM

I've read that when asked about the bright shiny unrealistic enameled paint schemes of his products, Joshua Cowen answered ..."do you know who actually BUYS Lionel Trains?  It's the women.  The mothers, aunts, sisters of the boy who go to the stores and do the shopping.  And women buy on color."

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, December 12, 2022 9:47 PM

pennytrains
Joshua Cowen answered ..."do you know who actually BUYS Lionel Trains?  It's the women. 

I guess there was something to that.  As the saying goes "Nothing succeeds like success."

(Unless it was the "Lady Lionel," but that's another story!)

Anyone else out there got a Trainmaster?  And it doesn't have to be a Lionel, at least as far as I'm concerned.

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, December 12, 2022 10:07 PM

I have noticed that when I post something up,the only replies I get are from Penny or Flint! what's up with that?

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 7:17 AM

philo426

It is a little over the top ,so I went on the Bay and found a beater Lackawanna body that had been poorly repainted  Stripped it down and painted it for my NYC scheme...

 

Do we know when the model appeared? Is it possible that the model was started before the CNJ trainmasters were delivered, but after the order was announced? That was the problem with the Hornby Dublo "Deltic" model, which went into production before the real locomotives appeared and had a quite different paint scheme.

It also occurs to me that the CNJ model might have been able to use the paint masks of the black and yellow VGN scheme.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 7:58 AM

philo426

I have noticed that when I post something up,the only replies I get are from Penny or Flint! what's up with that?

 

Well either nobody's paying attention or they're just shy.  There's 346 views so somebody's  looking in.  

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 8:09 AM

Yes it is strange!

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 8:15 AM

M636C
It also occurs to me that the CNJ model might have been able to use the paint masks of the black and yellow VGN scheme.

Good guess Peter, and that could very well be the case.

Historically the Jersey Central purchased their first Trainmasters in 1954 and then another batch in 1956 for a total of 13 and they were always in the Sea Green with Dulux Gold striping.  Lionel's JC Trainmaster came out in 1956 and was only made for one year. 

I've just read an article on the post-war Lionel GG1 and what a hassle it was for Lionel to do the "cats whisker" striping on the model, so maybe to save themselves the trouble prototypically striping a JC Trainmaster model they just went with the striking tangerine and blue paint scheme?  I don't think we'll ever know at this point.

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Posted by pennytrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 6:53 PM

Don't have a Trainmaster.  But I've always liked the Virginian in blue and yellow.  Which is odd considering blue and orange is my favorite color.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 9:15 PM

The blue and yellow (University of Michigan grads would call it blue and MAIZE!) on the Virginian Trainmaster does work well on the model! 

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Posted by smokey1 on Wednesday, December 14, 2022 12:26 AM

pennytrains

Don't have a Trainmaster.  But I've always liked the Virginian in blue and yellow.  Which is odd considering blue and orange is my favorite color. 

well, technically Orange is just an enrichment color of yellow. (yellow and red mixed correct?)  Big Smile

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Posted by smokey1 on Wednesday, December 14, 2022 12:28 AM

I have both the yellow & blue and the yellow & black. just don't have pics at the moment, and there not easily obtainable. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, December 14, 2022 8:35 AM

smokey1

I have both the yellow & blue and the yellow & black. just don't have pics at the moment, and there not easily obtainable. 

 

Hey, just do what I do and link some examples.  Here you go.

https://www.tandem-associates.com/lionel/lionel_trains_2331_diesel.htm

Works for me.

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Posted by pennytrains on Wednesday, December 14, 2022 6:56 PM

Flintlock76

The blue and yellow (University of Michigan grads would call it blue and MAIZE!) on the Virginian Trainmaster does work well on the model! 

 

In Ohio mentioning either Michigan college can result in an outbreak of fight songs and choruses of Hang on Sloopy!  Laugh

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Posted by smokey1 on Thursday, December 15, 2022 2:22 AM

Flintlock76
smokey1

I d to pull them out and take pics of all four of themhave both the yellow & blue and the yellow & black. just don't have pics at the moment, and there not easily obtainable. 

 

 

 

Hey, just do what I do and link some examples.  Here you go.

https://www.tandem-associates.com/lionel/lionel_trains_2331_diesel.htm

Works for me. 

I just need to pull them out and take pics of them all.

I have 2 under the train table in their boxes, and one on a display shelf between two train sets, and one in another room I use for storage. Then need to find somewhere to set them up. Probably should think of selling them. They are Williams and the power units I have installed TMCC and I think coil couplers. 

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, December 15, 2022 5:15 AM

Being a Buckeye myself ,those are true thoughts!Really stings that Ohio State lost to Michigan the last 2 seasons!

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Posted by smokey1 on Sunday, December 18, 2022 5:25 PM

well here are my four Williams trainmasters, 2 power and 2 dummy units

 

 the numbers 60 & 75 have ERR TMCC added the other two are the dummy units

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, December 18, 2022 8:34 PM

Very cool!

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, December 18, 2022 9:43 PM

Nice Smokey!  And it looks like you ran them through the washing machine so they'd be nice and shiny clean for their portraits!  Wink

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, December 18, 2022 10:29 PM

I have a Lackawanna, 2321. Price was reasonable.

Guy showed up in the driveway and handed it to me.

Then asked if I wanted the rest. Rolling stock (two milk cars with platform included) and two milk crates of 031 track and a dozen 022 and 042 switches, plus buildings. Bumpers, couple of handcars and 50 trolleys.

I found another shell, repainting to NP demonstrator because everything else is NP. Put the Lackawanna in the box, on a shelf.

Always wanted one, but unwilling to pay the price. Oh, and no cracked screwholes.

 

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, December 18, 2022 10:45 PM

Sounds like you did well!

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Posted by arkady on Monday, January 9, 2023 1:47 PM

I have the Lionel RDG TrainMaster, but I'm working on it at the moment, so this isn't the optimum time for a photo.

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Posted by smokey1 on Monday, January 9, 2023 2:19 PM

Flintlock76

Nice Smokey!  And it looks like you ran them through the washing machine so they'd be nice and shiny clean for their portraits!  Wink

 

They have not seen much time out of there boxes

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