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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:25 AM

I try to avoid adding 4 wheel cars to the collection.  I like the realism of 8 wheel cars. ( Smile, Wink & Grin What a joke, this is tinplate we are talking about.)  However every once in a while a 4 wheel car sneaks its way in.  Such is the case with this No. 803 hopper by Lionel.

Here it is with its cousin the No. 653  8 wheel hopper.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 9:09 AM

Here are examples of the #129 - #132  passenger cars in orange by Ives.

As many collectors know it can be difficult to collect complete sets in pre war tinplate.  I have found this to be true when collecting Ives. In this case I have found the 4 cars with brass journals from different sources.

I like the Ives #1122 steam engine, which can be very difficult to find in good condition. So in order to make up a set to run I added a #25 Ives tender that was paired with the #1122 and substituted a #423 steam engine from American Flyer that has a few modifications.

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EDIT:

On closer examination I realize that the photos of the "set" are missing a car.  It should have the

No. 129 Saratoga

No. 130  Buffet

No. 131 Baggage - Express

 and the No. 132 Observation.

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Posted by JonEddy on Monday, December 7, 2020 9:29 PM

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it's so dang heavy a kid would drop and break it or thier foot.

 

Break the locomotive?  Doubtful.  Break the foot?  Undoubtedly!  Big Smile

 

True, my dad used to ride around on the floor on his wide gauge engine when he was a few years old. They're tough engines!

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Posted by pennytrains on Monday, December 7, 2020 7:05 PM

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it's so dang heavy a kid would drop and break it or thier foot.

Break the locomotive?  Doubtful.  Break the foot?  Undoubtedly!  Big Smile

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Posted by JonEddy on Monday, December 7, 2020 10:01 AM

Flintlock76

I got to handle one of those last year.  THIS one seemed to weigh as much as an M-1 Garand!  How did kids ever pick one of those things up?

 

Maybe that is one of the reasons you don't find too many in nice shape,  it's so dang heavy a kid would drop and break it or thier foot. Wink

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, December 7, 2020 9:56 AM

Northwoods Flyer

#4696 Wide Gauge Brass Piper Locomotive and Tender by American Flyer

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I got to handle one of those last year.  THIS one seemed to weigh as much as an M-1 Garand!  How did kids ever pick one of those things up?

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Posted by JonEddy on Monday, December 7, 2020 9:41 AM

I love the Brass Piper, it maybe my favorite Flyer wide gauge engine. Someday I will find one! I did find a restored 263e with what appears to be original 263w tender. The tender has a couple of holes drilled in the frame that are not original but other than that looks in great shape. I just need to rewire the tender and clean it up just a little. Big Smile

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Monday, December 7, 2020 9:06 AM

#4696 Wide Gauge Brass Piper Locomotive and Tender by American Flyer

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Sunday, December 6, 2020 11:49 AM

Here is a vignette of the recent acquisitions and posting from Marx.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, December 5, 2020 3:29 PM

Thanks Northwoods!

As one who's been a student of history and collector of historic artifacts for years let me tell you, the best  of those artifacts are the ones that grab you and pull you back into their own era, and sometimes before you even realize they're doing it! 

They all don't do that, but that 226e sure did!

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:22 AM

Today we have the #620 spotlight car by Lionel

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:15 AM

Flintlock76
 

...  First off, it was a lot bigger than I thought it would be,....  Secondly, in an odd way I could almost feel  the power of American pre-war industry by holding that toy. ....   Amazing, toy train and American history wrapped up in one package.  In a real way, there's a lot more to toy trains than the trains themselves.

Flintlock,

You have pretty well summed up my fascination with collecting pre war trains. They preserve the history of industry, the political climate of the world, the social structure of our country and the family during the time of their manufacture. Add to all of that the "thrill of the hunt" , the camaraderie with other collectors and a sense of nostalgia and you have the reasons that I have been at this collecting hobby for 30+ years.

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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, December 4, 2020 10:25 PM

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About a year ago I was lucky enough to handle a 226e the owner was dropping off at the local train shop for some repair work.  To say I was awestruck by the experience was putting it mildly.  First off, it was a lot bigger than I thought it would be, photos don't do it justice.  Secondly, in an odd way I could almost feel  the power of American pre-war industry by holding that toy.  Toy indeed, it seemed to weigh as much an an M-1 Carbine!   

And soon that power would be unleashed on the Axis.  Amazing, toy train and American history wrapped up in one package.  In a real way, there's a lot more to toy trains than the trains themselves.

 

It is definitely heavier than I expected and the craftsmanship of that time blows me away!

 

Northwoods, I will definitely be videoing the comet set headed by the 226e along with a few other sets I have acquired this year under the Christmas tree. I won't have an elaborate layout but they will get to stretch thier drive wheels. Wink

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, December 4, 2020 11:30 AM

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I got the 226e and tender

About a year ago I was lucky enough to handle a 226e the owner was dropping off at the local train shop for some repair work.  To say I was awestruck by the experience was putting it mildly.  First off, it was a lot bigger than I thought it would be, photos don't do it justice.  Secondly, in an odd way I could almost feel  the power of American pre-war industry by holding that toy.  Toy indeed, it seemed to weigh as much an an M-1 Carbine!   

And soon that power would be unleashed on the Axis.  Amazing, toy train and American history wrapped up in one package.  In a real way, there's a lot more to toy trains than the trains themselves.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, December 4, 2020 9:45 AM

Here are some examples of the #3261 by Ives.   1929 - 1930

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, December 4, 2020 9:40 AM

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Gift  Can you imagine being lucky enough to find that beauty under the tree?  Gift

 

Penny,

I have often wondered what the scene was like when items in my collection were received by their original owners.  I have a feeling it didn't matter what their original cost was, I'm sure their original owners were delighted.

Jon,

The 226 looks great heading up those cars.  Please post some photos when you have them running around the tree.

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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, December 4, 2020 8:27 AM

I got the 226e and tender I mentioned earlier to pull my Comet set until I can find a 263 and tender. The tender is a late version with the white heat stamp instead of silver but I think it looks great with the cars. I can't wait to get her running on some track. Big Smile

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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, December 4, 2020 8:22 AM

That is a beautiful set!

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Posted by pennytrains on Thursday, December 3, 2020 6:54 PM

Gift  Can you imagine being lucky enough to find that beauty under the tree?  Gift

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:47 AM

Set #1469   Frontier Town   by American Flyer

This set did not come to me with all of the components.  I assembled them over 20 years of collecting.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Wednesday, December 2, 2020 9:42 AM

#550 New York Central Wrecker by Marx.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:04 AM

JonEddy

 

 

Beautiful set in beautiful condition Jon.  They will look splendid being pulled by a 226E.

My set is the 6xx series cars.

My Lionel offering for today is the #659 Dump Car.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, November 30, 2020 4:41 PM

Great find!  Well done!

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Posted by JonEddy on Monday, November 30, 2020 1:58 PM

I don't have much  Lionel tinplate but I did acquire these beauties from a train shop near me. Unfortunately they didn't have the matching engine but I couldn't pass up this consist in this nice of shape. Prewar O-gauge two-tone blue Lionel pullman car 2613 x 2, Observation car 2614, and Baggage car 2615. I plan on running them with a nice 226e until I can find a suitable two tone 263e and tender.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Monday, November 30, 2020 10:46 AM

#3260 by Ives

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Sunday, November 29, 2020 12:31 PM

#417 Locomotive by American Flyer     1939

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Saturday, November 28, 2020 10:04 AM

#412 Gantry Crane - New York Central by Marx

Ready to play.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, November 27, 2020 9:54 AM

#657 Caboose by Lionel

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Posted by pennytrains on Thursday, November 26, 2020 6:41 PM

And to you too!  Dinner

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Thursday, November 26, 2020 10:37 AM

#3252 by Ives

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