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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Sunday, June 13, 2021 11:25 PM

As long as I posted the #2679 with the Baby Ruth herald, let me add the #2679 with the candy bar graphic.

Here they are together.

Their lineage obviously shows that they use the same Ives body with different graphics and different couplers.

I think I'm doomed. Confused

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Posted by pennytrains on Monday, June 7, 2021 6:06 PM

It always surprised me though that Lionel chose not to use the Ives stockcar.  Maybe they didn't want to do the cut-outs?

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Monday, June 7, 2021 10:27 AM

Remember a number of entries back when I posted a photo of the #1679 Ives/Lionel transition box car?

 

I was commenting on the amount of mileage that Lionel got out of the acquisition of the Ives tinplate line.  Look what happened.

It appears that I have started down a slippery slope.

1679  

Another 1679, note the coupler and trucks

and here is the 2679

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:02 PM

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But my own version of the "Beast of the East" remains!

You saved the Blockbuster!  Outstanding!

I'm still looking.  Didn't find one at the last show but I DID get the Dreyfuss, so I can't complain.

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Posted by pennytrains on Thursday, June 3, 2021 5:55 PM

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Penny, Do you suppose that a previous owner swapped out the trucks? I feel sad when I think that you had to downsize your collection so drastically. Will your new dwelling place allow you to have some space to follow your hobby? At least you have photos and the amazing videos that you produced. I know that until I get a new layout up and running (tentatively named the Arrowhead Division of American Flyer Lines) I will miss the Blueboard Central Division of American Flyer Lines. At least I have photos.

No doubt the trucks had been swapped.  If it had been done at Lionel to sell of prewar equipment after 1946, it would have had bar-end trucks.  But I'm also guessing it was done at a Lionel Service Station because whoever did it, did a very good job:

Wherever I end up living I kept a lot of goodies to have fun with.  I kept this little resto I did:

I kept my 259:

I'll still be running Standard Gauge:

Kept all my street lamps and these glitter trees too:

Kept this little beauty too:

But the plane, the brick viaduct and the board itself are gone.

But my own version of the "Beast of the East" remains!

And it will run under this tree around these Plasticville buildings:

So, I'm going back to my roots and I guess you could say I'll be "specializing".  Wink

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:02 PM

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1682's aint' s'posed ta have staple end trucks!  Laugh 

Penny,

Do you suppose that a previous owner swapped out the trucks?

I feel sad when I think that you had to downsize your collection so drastically. Will your new dwelling place allow you to have some space to follow your hobby?  At least you have photos and the amazing videos that you produced. I know that until I get a new layout up and running (tentatively named the Arrowhead Division of American Flyer Lines) I will miss the Blueboard Central Division of American Flyer Lines.   

At least I have photos.

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Posted by pennytrains on Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:19 PM

This one got sold:

1682's aint' s'posed ta have staple end trucks!  Laugh

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 12:43 PM

Here is a comparison shot of the 16XX freight cars from the Ives/Lionel transition era. On the top we have the Lionel versions and on the bottom the Ives versions.  As mentioned in the posts above the stock car was not carried over from the Ives line to the Lionel line. 

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Posted by JonEddy on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:24 PM

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Well done Jon! Its nice to see that there are still some treasures to be found out there. Thanks for posting your newest finds.  At the rate you are acquiring tinplate trains you are well on your way to becoming a Titan of Tinplate. 

Thanks! I got really lucky to find these in such good shape! Here is a link to a video of the engine after I rewired it and fixed the R\C function.

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Posted by JonEddy on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:10 PM

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:43 AM

Well done Jon!

Its nice to see that there are still some treasures to be found out there. Thanks for posting your newest finds.  At the rate you are acquiring tinplate trains you are well on your way to becoming a Titan of Tinplate

Bow

 

The next car in the Lionel/Ives transition 16XX freight cars is the #1682 Caboose

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, May 24, 2021 9:43 PM

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BONANZA!  Big SmileThumbs Up

 

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Posted by pennytrains on Sunday, May 23, 2021 5:57 PM

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Posted by JonEddy on Saturday, May 22, 2021 10:42 PM

I haven't posted here in a bit but I just had to share this on the forum. I lucked into a couple of Wide Gauge Flyers this weekend. I answered an ad on FB Marketplace for a nice looking 4021 deluxe caboose and a 4022 machine car. I asked the seller if she had any other Flyer items but got no reply. When I got there she had the Ives transition 4694 and golden state tender on the table next to the cars! Then she told me she had a boxed set which I soon found out was this beautiful Brigadier set with an extra car, all in the individual boxes and in beautiful shape! The 4644 R\C needs some rewiring before it will run but the 4694 started right up. Have a great weekend!

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, May 21, 2021 3:38 PM

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A peacock roofed 1679 (or is irt a 2679?) is one of the first tinplate cars I actively sought.  Needless to say it survived my downsizing and remains in my collection.  Big Smile

Penny,

I'm glad to hear that your tinplate car with a very long heritage will be staying in your collection.  Thanks too for reminding me about the 2679.  I will have to go looking for my example.  It just shows how well used that body style was.

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Posted by pennytrains on Thursday, May 20, 2021 7:13 PM

A peacock roofed 1679 (or is irt a 2679?) is one of the first tinplate cars I actively sought.  Needless to say it survived my downsizing and remains in my collection.  Big Smile

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Thursday, May 20, 2021 1:57 PM

It is amazing how much mileage that Lionel got out of the Ives designed box car #1679.

I just acquired a 4th version of the #1679. This one is also in the Lionel livery and advertising Baby Ruth candy bars.

 

The family grows.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:31 AM

Here is the Ives 1679 and two of the Lionel versions using the same body and number.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:24 AM

Welcome Hoffman,

I assume that you are referring to one of the early postings in this thread. What color Lionel 600 series car do you have?

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Posted by Hoffman on Monday, April 26, 2021 11:20 PM

I am not a collector of the 600-series Lionel but I have one of these cars - I have always loved the color combo on this since I was a teenager (30 years ago) and finally found one in a box of stuff at a yard sale.  Not in superb shape, but reasonable.

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Posted by JonEddy on Tuesday, April 13, 2021 2:35 PM

This is my first Lionel standard gauge engine and tender. A beautiful 400e and 400t. I figured go big or go homeBig Smile. The only blemmish is the frame has been pinned just behind the 400e emblem on the boiler and a few small paint chips. Now I need to save up for some 200 rolling stock Wink

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Monday, April 12, 2021 9:48 AM

Jon,

Nice Marx tin accessory.  I always enjoy adding tinplate accessories from other manufacturers to the tinplate empire.

Here is another tinplate car from Ives that Lionel did not carry over into their line.  It is interesting that they didn't carry over the stock cars in either of their transition sets featuring Ives cars.

1678 Stock car

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Posted by JonEddy on Thursday, April 1, 2021 1:31 PM

Not a train accessory but 100% tinplate, here is a cool Marx Sky Flyer wind up toy circa 1937 I saw in a recent online auction. I thought it would go well with my wide gauge Flyers and in the near future will find a permanent place on my layout. It does work when you wind the plane the propeller turns as should but I'm not sure about the balance. If anyone has info on it I'd appreciate it.

   Thanks,

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Sunday, March 21, 2021 9:48 AM

1680 Tank car in Ives and Lionel Livery

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Monday, March 8, 2021 1:07 PM

There are also other freight cars that were produced in the Lionel/Ives transition era.

Lets start with the #1677 in Ives and Lionel livery.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, March 5, 2021 9:05 PM

Putting the two transition era sets together in a comparison shot we have Lionel on the upper track and Ives on the lower track.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:47 PM

In this number range of cars in the Lionel/Ives transition era there is one car that Lionel did not duplicate in its own livery, although they did use the Lionel coupler on the Ives branded car.

This is the Ives 1708 cattle car.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Sunday, February 21, 2021 12:08 PM

Jon,

Yes the #2640 cars are lighted.  At least mine are.

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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, February 19, 2021 4:46 PM

Northwoods, are these cars lighted? The Lionel 2640 and 2641, that is. I have a set of them but no lights or pickups are installed.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 10:59 AM

Fife,

They are handsome looking cars.  I like the fact that Lionel used the cars and graphics for a while.  Its too bad that they never came with Ives couplers.

Here are the cabooses from the Lionel/Ives transition era.

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