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Posted by 4kitties on Friday, November 5, 2004 1:56 PM
Algonquin, I can hear my set's sleigh bell just fine, and I hope I always will be able to. Somehow I think model railroaders in general and especially toy train fans are much more likely to be able to hear it all their lives.[:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 5, 2004 1:03 PM
For those who found it I say what great luck and count your blessings! :)
In the last week I've tried to help a couple of friends, who've seen the raolirs and wanted to get oen for the family tree, find a set. Well... Nada. Zilch zip.
All that seems to be available are the few sets on eBay and one or two dealers (like Charles RO) who're offering them at sky high, well over MSRP prices.
Prices that have both friends not even remotely interested now (for a closet queen - meaning it comes out once a year at Christmas time) and they say February , when more is supposely arriving from overseas, will be too late.
IMO Lionel blew thier chance at some really good sales numbers by not having enough on hand to meet the demand.

All IMO of course...

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Posted by Algonquin on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 12:14 PM
Lionel added a sleigh bell to the set. That was a nice surprise as it was not identified in the catalog as included in the set. I am curious, did anyone get a sleigh bell that was broken, i. e., that makes no sound. Mine sounds great. A good sign for this coming Christmas?

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Posted by cheapclassics on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 11:04 AM
have to agree about the whistle. It is gone on mine as well. Other than that, this is a wonderful set. The passenger cars have dual pickups for flicker-free lighting, and the Berkshire navigates the Fastrack switch with out a problem. The CW-80 is smooth, and the individual boxes for the cars and engine are nice as well. Just be careful picking up the set box as the dealer told me it weighs 32 pounds. This is one nice set.

Keep on training,

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Posted by Algonquin on Monday, November 1, 2004 10:55 AM
I picked up my Polar Express Set Saturday. When I unpacked it the whistle was intact but it looked very small. We ran it for about a half-hour on our layout. When I shut it down, I noticed that the whistle was gone. It had broken off right at the connection to the boiler. I am not sure how it came off. Other than that, the train set worked very nicely and my kids and I enjoy it. The air whistle is a standard classic from previous years. All the cars have lights and the silouettes in the windows reflect the story. The engine ran smooth with its can motor and electronic reverse unit. The locomotive also contains a smoke unit.

My Dealer indicated that all the production of these units by Lionel have been sold out to dealers.He is selling them fast and expects to be sold out well before Christmas. I would imagine that sales for these sets will pick-up following the release of the movie next week.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:52 PM
It's on the shelves at your grocery store now. [:)]


Would this be considered the Official "Training" Food for up and coming engineers? [:D]

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Posted by 4kitties on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:46 AM
I would agree with the diagnosis of reversed motor leads if the engine started off in reverse from a power-off reset. But it starts in neutral and then goes into reverse. So I will contact Lionel and find out whether they think I have a problem that the warranty should cover. Actually I wouldn't mind power-up in neutral and then sequence to forward, like MTH does.

Thanks for everyone' replies! [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:57 AM
Hey Ya'll

I am sorry that that has happened. Yesterday, Tom Hanks and Robert Zemikas were on Opra talking about the movie "The Polar Express". Opra was invited to the premeire and she absolutley loved it. They held up the Polar Express set from Lionel and showed it to the crowd. I was watching it with my Grandma, who was very impressed by the look of the Lionel set. Belive it or not, She called Lionel afetr the show and ordered a set for herself to go around her Christmas tree.

This exited me, not only because of the set, but she would have her own train to run around her tree. The only other time she had a train aropund her tree was when I lent her my battery operated Thomas the Tank enigne with Annie and Clarabel to go around her treewhen I was 5.

My parets have placed an order for a set (don't tell them I know) for me as a christmas present. I heared them on the phone last night with Lionel. They are supposed to ship it to my local Lionel store and they will hold it until Christams Eve. I told my parents thats what I wanted in epember and told them they better order it beacuse they were going fast. They knew it too. They asked me "If you did get a train for chrstmas, would you want it in the box or running aroudnd the tree christmas morning. I chose the tree of course.

Nick

P:S: Opra said you should go ahead and order your tickets in advance because people would be lined up to see it, and when they are sold out, you can walst (spelling) right in in front of every body trying t get a ticket and waiting to see the movie. I've already got mine!!



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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:38 AM
i think the manufacturer(s) should supply an extra (spare) bell or whistle!![:)]

why not???

i have only one modern train purchase and it's a k-line switcher. in the box were three (3) bells {i am sure it was a packing mistake} but that bell will probably NEVER break because i have the spares. (see murphy's law)

4 kitties, sorry about your luck with the new train.
i cant wait to take my kids to see the movie this winter.
the oldest is only 4yrs but i think she's probably ready for the big screen [;)][:)]
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Posted by Kooljock1 on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:58 AM
Other than perhaps a few Dept. 56 houses, the set is complete right out of the box. You can even set the FasTrack up on the carpet, or on the Christmas Tree skirt, and it will be fine.

Remember the CW-80 transformer gives you accesspry voltage posts, so give her something to hook up!

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Posted by BR60103 on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:38 PM
I've ordered one for my wife for Christmas.
What extra features does it have? I didn't know about the whistle. Anything I might have to get extra?

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:31 PM
I guess when I go to pick mine up, I'll try it out on the dealer's test track. Thanks for the head's up.

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Posted by 3railguy on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:19 PM
daan is probably right about the motor wires reversed. If you trace the two motor leads (wires), they should be connected with wire nuts somewhere. Carefully loosen the wirenuts, flip flop the leads, retwist leads, and reattach nuts
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:50 PM
Sorry to hear your Polar Express quality was not where it should be. I keep waiting for the day that the add - on whistle breaks off my locomotive as well. Perhaps there will be a plentiful source of replacement ones at the parts houses for years to come.
The problem that I had with my set was that the whistle in the tender sounded like a dying cow. After several attemps at repair I eventually had to turn the complete whistle around 180 degrees. After that that change everything works fine.
The thing that worries me is if there are little problems popping up here and there with QC issues now, how many parents outside of the hobby buy this set (at full MSRP and beyond) for thier children and experience similar problems? And how many will then forget model trains completely?
It's nice to see a model train besides Thomas have the potential to become main stream, but if every one out of four sets has a problem, how big of a black eye will it be for Lionel?
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Posted by Bob Keller on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:27 PM
We've had a Polar Express for about two months and it has run perfectly. It even took a header off a table in the photo studio - the bell broke off -but the engine continued to run just fine.

Due to the mass market potential of this set, we've sort of broken with tradition and actually have a review of the set in News & Notes of our January 2005 issue. Our sister mag, Trains, has a feature about the 1225 in their January issue, too.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:36 PM
I posted this just the other day on another topic: I have a pair of MTH Genesises that I have not yet converted to e-units. They have a jumper on the circuit board that can be moved to select the default direction after being off for a while. You may be able to find such a thing on your locomotive too.

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Posted by daan on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:05 PM
If it is an electronic reversing unit using DC can motors, the wires are probably mounted the wrong way. Electronic E-units only switch the + and - on the can motor, so they don't have to switch between coils or brushes. The whole way of switching directions is much easier when using a can motor, and things like this are easy to "repair".. Though it should be running the way you want it right out of the factory..
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Posted by 4kitties on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:03 AM
...the locomotive doesn't sequence properly. When I start it up from a power-off reset state it comes up in neutral. When I hit the direction button it goes into reverse. I've tried this numerous times, and it's repeatable. It never starts up in forward like the owner's manual states it should. Any thoughts?

I was disappointed that the ornamental whistle broke off of the boiler the first evening I had the set. My impression is that this isn't a set for children, or at least the small details won't hold up to normal play.

Other than these minor issues (and they're more a nuisance than anything) I'm happy. This is the first train set I've had the pleasure of opening since I bought my Lionel HO set in 1967, and it was fun to unwrap each piece. It looks good, and I had a blast last night hooking the 1225 up to my string of holiday freight cars and running it on my big layout. It walked away with 10 cars like they weren't there, and did it smoothly and quietly.

Incidentally, the CT-80 transformer works fine and seems well made enough. Time will tell whether it's one of the troublesome ones. I will assume the best for now.

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