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Posted by jonadel on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:24 AM

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And BTW people can and do go over the top on pets pouring out cash to keep them alive but coming off the farm there is a limit and a place where you teach you kids the rightness and kindness in putting an animal down. That is never easy but sometimes it is best and a very good life lesson.

Truer words have never been spoken.  Anyone who has ever owned a pet knows that they do become a part of the family and it's hard to let go but reality has to be part of the equation, especially when it comes to expenses.

DougDG --  we are spending a week in your old stomping grounds of Grand County, the views are simply amazing, I never tire of the sheer beauty.

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:08 AM

Greetings Again, Y'all,

SJ.......shopping with Granny.  I can just picture your joy and excitement.....NOT!  Whistling

Roy.....have you gotten at least enough precipitation over the past few months to mitigate the danger you had of your foundation cracking?  Hope you get over the crud, not fun.  Angel

JoeyD........I can certainly relate to your frustration with the Trainworld purchase.  I am going through the same thing with a furniture purchase (damaged in transit, returned to factory before delivery to me, re-ordered) saga that began November 17.  This stuff is my Christmas present to my wife, no less, and she searched for two years to find just the right stuff!  Up front it was:   "In stock, ships in 7-10 business days, you will have your furniture in your home no later than 12/13/12."   In my case, the $ was paid via bank card up front.  Furniture or no, I will have the charges disputed/reversed this weekend, within my bank's terms, conditions, protections, and disputes window. 

After a lot of BS on the other end, was told yesterday the replacement shipment on the reordered furniture finally would be shipped by tomorrow.  The furniture company will discover sometime next week they have been "unpaid," then things should start popping.  BTW, I am dealing directly with the furniture company's (useless) Corporate Sales Manager by direct dial phone and email re this fiasco.  The President of that outfit is next on my hit list.  I WILL get my wife's furniture but I WILL NOT be hung out to dry $-wise.  This time around they will be paid upon satisfactory delivery and installation. Bang Head

BOC.......ya gotta love it when the wifey is pushing for your hearing test.  Mine insisted my hearing was shot and that I have it fully tested.  A full blown audio test (in a sound booth) showed my hearing overall is in the "better than average" for-my-age range in all but one octave. "Read the results and weep, dear!" Now if she would just consider for a moment that she can't be 1-2 rooms away, mumbling in a low voice, facing the other direction, with the TV on and water running in the kitchen as the source of this alleged "deafness" I must have...... Laugh  Even my kids tell her the same thing.  It goes in one (of her) ears and out the other.  She actually thinks I may be ignoring her!!!! Whistling  Perish the thought!!!  ME?????? 

DougDG.....I for one are glad you got checked out by your Doc on this crud thing.  Better safe than sorry.  I sure am glad that we have flu shots.  Problem is, read on CNN and then heard on the local news there is a huge national spike in the incidence of flu right now, and the peak flu season has yet to arrive. Thumbs UpAngel  Chief.....hope you got checked out as well.  Same goes for Rich and many others.

Jeffrey......quack quack quack.  It must be nice to be able to do some fishing right from your front door. Laugh  Hope today finds you feeling a whole lot better too. Angel

8n........I usually make all of my deposits and withdrawals at an ATM.  I get photocopies of the deposited checks right on my receipt along with account balance before and after.  The transaction appears on my (available on-line) running statement immediately.  Driving to my bank and then standing in line for the next available teller is not my cup of tea.  My closest walk-in bank is two miles away while the closest ATM a half mile.  My walk-in bank has a big sign asking folks to get off their cell phones while transacting business, a request that is ignored by the folks too busy yakking and texting to pay any attention to such courtesies.  They should send those inconsiderate knuckleheads right back to the end of the line "to learn 'em"  but won't.  Same is true at the grocery store at checkout.  Drives me nuts. Bang Head

Lehigh......how are your "all nighters" coming along?  I remember those far too well.  Working and going to school sure can take a lot out of you.  Keep up the good studies and hard work!!!!  Thumbs Up 

KEV.....re dogs and pets, things were a whole lot different than 5-6 decades ago when you and I were kids. had a stay at home mother who made sure the dogs were taken care of....by the kids.  There were no such thing as dog nutrition, formal training, or the advanced level of veterinarian care we see today.  While I agree strongly with you that some (too many) folks beat a dead horse from a medical perspective (old age, cancers, etc), a torn ACL, diabetes, allergies, bloat, a treatable heart condition, a broken hip/leg, or an eye ulceration which essentially used to go untreated (or dealt with using humane euthanasia) are now considered bread and butter treatable, $$$ notwithstanding. 

Was glad to hear Dad (you) could throw his not-insignificant experience and expertise into the duaghter's vehicle purchase, pre-owned or otherwise.  I told my son that the wise man uses all of his resources when entering uncharted waters, no sense in the both of us making all of the mistakes I did through trial and error.  That (his first car purchase) drew my son much closer to me......he got to participate in the research, my mechanic's once over, and then sit there, shut up, listen, and learn while I handled the negotiations.  He was totally shocked when I got pre-purchase repairs done by the dealer on his prospevctive car without a price change (below blue book) and then his financing from the same dealer, with no co-signing (he had inadequate credit history) at the tail end of the deal.  We had fun together on that one. Thumbs Up

BTW.......that Lionel link you provided me did not bear any fruit.  The engine and the set was an uncatalogued, limited run.  I punched in several different descriptives in the search engine for the manuals, including set number and the cab numbers, no luck.  Thanks anyway for the link as it will be very useful in the future!!! Thumbs Up

Chief........did I actually read that right, that you are actually relaxing a bit?  Now THAT is a first.  What is your Doc doing for your crud?  Get well!!! Angel

Rich.......was thinking of you, Mr. MOPAR, last night while watching Velocity TV's "Desert Wrecks," I think.  A 1971 Dodge Challenger resto and a Superbird thrown in for good measure.  Also featured was a brandy new SRT Hemi Challenger in black. Thumbs Up  Hope most of your crud has dissipated as well. Angel 

BO........John Lennon(?) once said life is what happens to you when you were busy doing other things, or something of that nature.  Retirement is the time to make up for lost time on the many important things that had to be satisficed earlier along the road.

DougM........a Murphy bed?  Laugh  Your advice and that of JoeyD, an under-the-bed layout for Brent's Christina, is great!!!!  JoeyD actually posted pictures of his boy's UTB layout project, impressive stuff.. When space was an issue for my family, my Dad actually mounted and hinged one entire side of a framed 4' x 8' train board/layout to a wall in our basement and proceeded to glue, nail, or screw everything down permanently.  At that size and weight, it took two six year olds on opposite ends (me and a friend) about 30 seconds to swing the board up into position and then drop/lock the opposite side support legs in place.  Plug in the mounted transformer and we were set to go!!!!  My Mom foolishly figured that this set-up would provide her space to save a lot of junk.  But I was always remiss on the back end of things, returning the train board to its former flat against the wall, out-of-the-way position when I was done playing. WhistlingSmile, Wink & Grin 

Later, gang.

Jack

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Posted by KRM on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:41 AM

RockIsland52

 BTW.......that Lionel link you provided did not bear any fruit.  The engine and the set was an uncatalogued, limited run.  I pucnched in several different descriptives in the search engine, including set number and the cab numbers, no luck.  Thanks anyway for the link as it will be very useful in the future!!! Thumbs Up

 

 Jack, Send me more information like what type of engine it is the part number of it and anything else you can and I will look for you. Kind of got some sort of gut action going on today keeping me close to home. If you know what I mean. Tongue Tied

A lot of times on that Lionel site it will not list what you have but you can find it under another road name. Usually the first release of that style of the Loco. Also I will look for a parts breakdown that may also show you what you need. My dash 8 40C NS would not show but I found it under The Dash 8 U.P. engine. Same guts different road name. it should have something in there seeing it is a 2008

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Posted by dougdagrump on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:41 AM

Jon,

When Jack was commenting on the brightness of the stars after the rains came thru reminded me of the time the Better Half and I spent up there. On those bitter cold dry as a popcorn toot nites at 9500' elevation it was almost as though you could reach out and touch the stars.

If the Feds haven't banned them yet rent a couple of snowmobiles and go for a nice long ride or guided tour up into the national forest. At one time it was a nice ride up into Rocky Mountain National Park even though you were restricted to following Trail Ridge Road.

Safe travels my friend.

P.S. When are you guys going to be out this way again ?

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Posted by wrconstruction on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:56 AM

LAZ, yes thats the name i could for the life of me think of it. I still wouldn't want to be in front of one

Rock, you STILL didnt get your funriture?     I know I posted about how people complain etc eailier this month, but you my friend, have a RIGHT to be screaming and yelling. 

I would be P)SSED

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Posted by SPMan on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:23 PM

8N, Belated condolences on the loss of your kitty.  I missed the post too.  We had one that lived 20 years and it was hard when she died.  She grew up with my kids.

Jack, we had dogs growing up but none of them ever saw a vet.  However, I think most of them were killed by cars, horses or whatever before they reached old age.

V8, they have some of those mechanical music players at the Nethercutt Automobile Muesem in Sylmar I think.  They have band organs and even one that featured two violins playing a duet by themselves.  Of course they also have the big Wurlitzer Organ which plays automatically.

Yesterday, my MTH class J N&W 4-8-4 decided to break a spring on the lead truck.  It keeps pressure on the lead wheels so they don't jump off.  The truck is fastened in two places.  One at the pivot point and the other from the front on an arm that swings with the truck.  The spring is shaped like a pyramid with the small end near the top and big end against the top of the truck.  Will try the local hobby shop but will probably have to call MTH for the part.  Looks like an easy fix if I can find the right kind of spring.

Laz, I think you have better luck fishing than hunting.

Have a good day all,

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:25 PM

Goofed off all morning after getting back from taking Finn and Lucy to groomer.  8N, sorry for your loss.  They are family.  So sad.

Wonderful sunny and warm day.  High 60's outside.

Now to vacuum before Wifey gets home.  Then some Box work.  

Have a good one. 

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Posted by wrconstruction on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:31 PM

 

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:47 PM

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Jeffrey......quack quack quack.  It must be nice to be able to do some fishing right from your front door. Laugh  Hope today finds you feeling a whole lot better too. Angel

Yep! Great weather if you're a duck! My invitation still stands. Anybody wanting rain water come and get it. We got plenty to go around and then some! BYORB (bring your own rain barrel). As for fishing, I don't even own a fishing pole.

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It's noon here now. A nice 62° and very wet. No heavy rain yet. The rain gauge reading from yesterday read full. That's seven inches!Indifferent I emptied it before signing off last night. I read it again a little while ago. Three inches from last night and this morning. That's ten inches so far and more on the way.Crying One of my neighbors is putting in a big order of lumber. Either he's working on his cabin or he's getting ready to engage in ark building.BlindfoldLaugh

I got the cab off of the AS16. It was stuck on there pretty good and I was considering cutting it off. However a bit of prying with a small screwdriver popped it loose. The next step will be to cut a piece of card stock to fill the space in the shell formerly occupied by the cab. More on that later maybe.



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Posted by KRM on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:12 PM

wrconstruction

 

 

Ryan. ????? YOU ARE the polar opposite of RIJack.  Laugh

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:45 PM

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Lehigh......how are your "all nighters" coming along?  I remember those far too well.  Working and going to school sure can take a lot out of you.  Keep up the good studies and hard work!!!!  Thumbs Up 

I have a feeling that it won't be any better when I start going to Penn Tech this fall, but as far as difficulty, I hope that it isn't that much greater. I do well in my Trig and Physics courses, so I'm not worried about them.

I am, however, worried about English and how I will do in that field, but I guess that I just need to wait and find out.

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:48 PM

wrconstruction
Rock, you STILL didnt get your funriture?     I know I posted about how people complain etc eailier this month, but you my friend, have a RIGHT to be screaming and yelling. 

I would be P)SSED

Ryan

Ryan......my years in corporate America have taught me that being in the right doesn't help.  Screaming and yelling doesn't help.  Justifiably taking my anger and frustration out on someone doesn't help either, whether it was their (personal) fault or not.  I lose this way, don't get what I want or need.  Letting emotioms get the better of me doesn't work well face-to-face.  Not via telephone.  Not via email. 

Staying on them like white on rice and regurgitating back exactly what they advertise, what they said, and then what they did (or didn't do), including days, dates, and times and specifics, without being anything more than direct and professional and very persistant.....that works for me. 

Dealing with a decision maker works for me.  Escalating matters up the chain of command, or just the mention of this possible cause/effect.....that works for me. "To whom in your organization do I need to talk to in order to make this happen?" 

Timely but rabid follow- up works for me.  Email confirmations of what was discussed and what was committed works for me.  First name, last name, title.  They KNOW I must be documenting my case.  They KNOW the other shoe may drop.  They KNOW I am not going away.  I wear them down and burn them out and keep pressing.  Even if they just feel compelled to satisfy me just to get rid of me........because I am chewing up all of their time.

THAT BEING SAID........IT HAS NOT WORKED THIS TIME!!!!  Not yet.  Bang HeadBang HeadBang Head  

Now many here on the POT might say I should simply cancel the order, get the charges reversed, and just walk away from this.  That it is not worth this ridiculous amount of overkill and time.  That I should not accept this putrid level of service.  That I, the customer, deserve far better.  That I can and should take my business elsewhere, where my $ and my business is better appreciated.

The fact of the matter is that I cannot cancel this order and go elsewhere.  For two years my wife has wanted these exact pieces of furniture, right down to the color and dimensions.  She is the world's greatest shopper, store or internet.  For two years she has searched high and low, and this is the only company that has exactly what she wants.  I promised her I would get her this Christmas present, and when things went South I then assured her that she would get exactly what she wanted, come hell or high water.  Both are at my doorstep.  I somewhat put myself in this pickle.

My Dad used to say that something is only worth the price you had to pay to get it......but he was talking about something far more important in life than furniture or money.  I can afford to stand on principal in this matter and make it happen, if it will make my wife happy.  She is worth it.  

Jack

PS:  Bo......this type of fun stuff  is what you can do with some of your spare time in retirement. Whistling  

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Posted by KRM on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:26 PM

RockIsland52

wrconstruction
Rock, you STILL didnt get your funriture?     I know I posted about how people complain etc eailier this month, but you my friend, have a RIGHT to be screaming and yelling. 

I would be P)SSED

Ryan

 Timely but rabid follow- up works for me.  Email confirmations of what was discussed and what was committed works for me.  First name, last name, title.  They KNOW I must be documenting my case.  They KNOW the other shoe may drop.  They KNOW I am not going away.  I wear them down and burn them out and keep pressing.  Even if they just feel compelled to satisfy me just to get rid of me........because I am chewing up all of their time.

THAT BEING SAID........IT HAS NOT WORKED THIS TIME!!!!  Not yet.  Bang HeadBang HeadBang Head  

Jack, one  make that two questions? Is this stuff coming from south of the MD line where time value and travel has a whole different meaning?? Does Chief work the PR end of the firm? Smile, Wink & Grin 

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Posted by wrconstruction on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:32 PM

KRM

wrconstruction

 

 

Ryan. YOU ARE the polar opposite of RIJack.  Laugh

 

Not sure what happened there? My warehouse Rodent Control Technician toook the day off and was on my desk being "cute" I tried to post some pics of him, but nothing, not even the text showed up?  I'll retry tonight from the house. 

I figured all us sick uns could use a good chuckle.  And leave it to the cat, they do some strange stuff, always seemingly at the right time. 

speaking of cats, i have been seeing more and more cats hit by cars.  I know this is un avoidable at times, but it always reminds me of mine that I have had to pick up, peel off the roadway.  they were some ones pet / friend.   Then theres the ones no one ever "claims"

By my house on the mountian, theres a blind "S" curve where a mother cat got hit, then her kittens went to see why mommy wasn't comming, then they got hit, and I had to see this every day to and from work for weeks. There was no safe way to get them even off the road way.  talk about just feeling sick.....

any way sorry for all the dead cat disussion.

 

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Posted by LawsonFarmsRR on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:36 PM

Jack - what is "stomach attachment procedure" on a dog?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:48 PM

LV,

      After high school, staying up all night with books becomes the norm.  Pulled many all nighters at home and in labs while I was working toward my degree.  I was the opposite of you though with Trig, College Algebra, and Calculus.Black Eye Just stay focused and you'll get through fine.

8n,

       Sorry to hear about your cat.

Jack,

         Regarding the furniture snafu, angry calls/emails to the right people work IMO.Wink  Went through this type of thing with my latest tuner.  Without going into too much detail, one calm followed by a later more heated phone call to the dealer at fault who was being slow and shady, two calls to the credit card co., and one heated email to said dealer's manufacturer got results.  Not how i like to do things but I don't screw around when it comes to $$ to bad customer service.

 

Got the 726 in already from Granbury, TX.Big Smile  Very, very nice example.Thumbs Up  So much so that I just spent nearly double what the 726 cost to get an equally clean 2426W tender.Surprise

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Posted by KRM on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:51 PM

wrconstruction

KRM

wrconstruction

 

 

Ryan. YOU ARE the polar opposite of RIJack.  Laugh

 

Not sure what happened there? My warehouse Rodent Control Technician toook the day off and was on my desk being "cute" I tried to post some pics of him, but nothing, not even the text showed up?  I'll retry tonight from the house. 

I figured all us sick uns could use a good chuckle.  And leave it to the cat, they do some strange stuff, always seemingly at the right time. 

  

Ryan,

I thought it was a good post. Short and no point. Whistling

 Pat I am glad you asked that question but not sure I even want to know.

 Talk about the good life.

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:05 PM

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wrconstruction

 

Ryan. YOU ARE the polar opposite of RIJack.  Laugh

KEV.........after (the length of) what I just posted to Ryan, there surely can be no doubt.  Hopefully Ryan doesn't have any customers like me.  Laugh

Regarding finding an owner's manual for my steamer I got from Santa. 

It is an all die-cast 4-4-2 steam engine (Atlantic?) and only came as part of set #30097, the Dr. Pepper "Doc Express."  A freight set.  The numbers on the sides of the engine cab are 10-2-4.  Absolutely no other identifying numbers or ID plates on the cab, the front boiler plate, or underneath.  The pilot truck up front has "Made In China" stamped on it. 

The single traction tire in question is mounted on the left rear (geared) drive wheel and the wheel is grooved to envelope the tire side to side, to keep it in place on the drive wheel.  None of the other drivers have such an indentation, so I assume this engine only came with the single traction tire.  I did receive a sealed plastic bag with a spare traction tire an a bottle of Lionel smoke fluid.  Probably more standard 4-4-2 stuff from the time. 

The only place I could find a write-up or reference to the engine/set by Googling on the net was on Ebay.  The seller of the engine available on Ebay wrote:  "Custom train set" and "not individually boxed from the factory." And......."This (engine) is (from) a custom, limited edition train set manufactured exclusively for Dr. Pepper in August of 2008.  It is only 1 of 1,276 produced worldwide.  The Certificate of Authenticity from Lionel is incuded (with this engine); numbered 988 of 1,276."  

The die cast boiler is primarily black with a silver nose (stack surround and boiler plate) while the cab in the rear is maroon in color.....Dr. Pepper color scheme I presume.  I am assuming the engine is nothing more than a standard die cast 4-4-2 with different paint.  Has the smoke (no fan) and the old whistling tender.  Mounted underneath the cab in the back (left side) are two tiny black plastic push/pull switches which are probably to freeze the e-unit and to turn the smoke element on and off.....again, probably standard 4-4-2 fare for the time.      

My train shop has promised to look for my certificate and the missing owner's manual but thus far has not found them.  

My shop apparently got the set in (on consignment) and broke it up for sale, placing the stuff in one of the display cases.  My daughter and son only bought the engine, tender, one (of 2) boxcars, and the matching caboose.  I ran back and bought the other matching boxcar and the matching tank car to complete the set consist.  The set also came with a PowerMax transformer and a loop of FasTrak, but I wasn't interested in buying that stuff and didn't ask about it.

Hopefully this is enough info. to at least find a similar 4-4-2 freight set from back when it was released (2008) where the owner's manual would be the same for the engine.

I am going to go back to the link you sent me and start looking at Lionel catalogues to see what I can find on similar 4-4-2s.  Perhaps my train shop is looking for a Dr. Pepper set of instructions when in fact it might have come with a manual from another 4-4-2 set.

RT........fyi, one knucklehead working at the train shop apparently threw out the set box.  The the shop owner told me he was angry about that as he knows folks like to get the boxes the trains came in.  I know how you like to have your original boxes. Smile, Wink & Grin      

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:43 PM

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Jack - what is "stomach attachment procedure" on a dog?

Pat

Pat.....it is called a surgical gastropexy. The vet surgically tacks the stomach walls to the dog's proximate tissue.  The elective procedure can be done through an endoscope or through a small incision.  Cost about $500-$600, less if done at the same time the dog is inder anesthesia for the castration/spaying.

There are two types of bloat in dogs.  Simple bloat (intestinal tract or stomach blockage......think bowel obstruction) and torsion bloat (stomach twists) is more common in certain large breed dogs and in dogs with deep chests.  Dogs that eat too much in one meal or eat too fast are also prone to simple bloat.  My Doberman is considered particularly at risk for torsion bloat, the more lethal type.....he's both large and deep chested.  No known cause, and the gastropexy surgery is the only pre-emptive way to mitigate the risk.  

The purpose of the gastropexy procedure is to reduce or eliminate the possibility of what is called "torsion bloat" which is lethal in a matter of an hour or two of onset.  With torsion bloat, the entire stomach for some unknown reason twists inside the dog, the blood supply to the stomach is cut off, and necrosis (tissue death) sets right in affecting the stomach and/or intestines.  The belly distends, and in many cases blood flow to the dog's heart is seriously compromised.  One has only an hour or two between the onset of the symptoms and death. 

Immediate surgical intervention is required to save the dog.  Cost for the torsion bloat surgery is between $4K and $5K with the prices rising from there if necrotic tissue has to be removed/excised and/or the necrotic intestines need to be resected and the good tissue ends reattached.  If sepsis occurs, just as in humans, the dog may be history.

Why did I elect to have the gastropexy done?  The $400 spent having it done during Maximus' nuetering seemed like short money versus a possible bout down the road with torsion bloat and the possible $4,000+ of surgery, with no guarantees on the latter..  My wife and I know at least five folks with whom we train who have lost their large breed dogs the past year to torsion bloat.   

The animal control officer in Newtown Ct. where the school massacre occured.....he lost his Doberman a few days after the shooting to torsion bloat.  His dog was a littermate to our trainers dog!!!!  So for me the gastropexy surgery was an insurance policy of sorts.

Jack

PS:  Sorry if my description of this stuff was not clear.  I am not a vet.  Big Smile

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Posted by wrconstruction on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:04 PM

This guy took the day off from rodent control at my warehouse.  here he is camped out on my desk

What A LIFE

This guy below showed up at my house, came in the cat door and never left He was a bag of bones at that time, now he my layout helper. he resides in the MTH bridge box. When I am out dragging logs off the mountain, he runs along side the tractor like a dog. Not scared of anything

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Posted by dougdagrump on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:06 PM

Jack, I found the perfect gift for Maximus for next Christmas or his b'day, whichever is soonest:

http://www.lionel.com/CustomerService/ReplacementParts/index.cfm?doAction=productPartFilter&number=6938667t01&productID=80c47cac-2552-4308-b762-ae058eb34cdd

Laugh

This one is more to the point though:

http://www.lionel.com/media/servicedocuments/73-0097-250.pdf

Later !

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Posted by wrconstruction on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:07 PM

If you want to see bigger pics my www.flickr.com account is public  account name is ZeroExport

all my layout pics are on there as well

Ryan

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:41 PM

Earlier today I was doing some work on a Bachmann GP40 shell and just out of curiosity plopped it down on the Stewart/Athearn/Proto AS16 drive I've been playing around with and came up with this smooth running creature. It looks like a Bachmann from the wrong side of the shop but runs smoother and quieter than my newest Atlas. Now what to do with it? This thing is just an experimental accident! It's obviously not an AS16 and it's very obviously not a GP40. What would one call this spawn of the warped mind of Dr Frankendiesel? I'm at a total loss! I look at it and my mind just goes blank.



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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 5:04 PM

Looks like I'm gonna be ducking for cover yet again. Another big thunder-boomer is coming in. This one looks and sounds thoroughly vile! Hope to be back later.

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Posted by sir james I on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 5:56 PM

It's 47 degrees and yes the snow is melting. I can see grass again. I didn't get much done today but stayed busy. No train news except some plans for our club meet on Saturday night. Banilla will be ready for the thingy crew...S.J.

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Posted by wrmcclellan on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:01 PM

Evening all!

LAZ LAZ LAZ LAZ  !!! RED ALERT !!!

You are falling behind in your mission! Report today on major brand beers that have declined in sales over 50% in the last 5 years !!!

  1. Michelob -72%
  2. Michelob Lite -66%
  3. Bud Select -60%
  4. Milwaukee’s Best -57%
  5. Old Milwaukee -53%   Crying

 Ya gotta step it up man or you gonna be lookin for a NEW BREW!

Still suffering with the CRUD!

Jack - for me the rain is too little too late.. But still have to keep the foundation wet as best as possible. We finally got over 2 inches of soaking rain since late last night. If the low pressure cell had tracked just 200 miles further east much of the rain would have missed us. East of us got a lot of rain. We need another 10-15 inches or so of slow soaking rain to replenish the deep ground water.

Have a great evening all!

Regards, Roy

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Posted by cheapclassics on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:28 PM

Good evening all,

IIABSDISEI after the morning rain and the temps got to 50 today.  Feeling much better today.  Decided it may be ginger snaps that could be causing the problem.  Regarding the Chief's comments about a certain American football game played at the college level Monday night, I might remind him that Alabama is nowhere close to North Carolina, whom he failed to mention won the equivalent title in Women's soccer (after a real playoff, no less) and that a team from the great Hoosier state (IU) won the men's title (again after a real playoff).  I also find it interesting there are football (soccer) championships for both genders at the college level while the contest the Chief was referrring to featured only the guys.   Hmmmmm!!!  Quiet day at work and at least the outdoor decorations are down at home.  Not much else going on.  TBIL and I can drive.  I hope everyone has a good day.

Keep on training,

Mike C. from Indiana

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Posted by KRM on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:36 PM

dougdagrump

Jack, I found the perfect gift for Maximus for next Christmas or his b'day, whichever is soonest:

http://www.lionel.com/CustomerService/ReplacementParts/index.cfm?doAction=productPartFilter&number=6938667t01&productID=80c47cac-2552-4308-b762-ae058eb34cdd

Laugh

This one is more to the point though:

http://www.lionel.com/media/servicedocuments/73-0097-250.pdf

Later !

 WOW you are the man Doug Danota

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 Well Jack I tried and I was close. Tongue Tied

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Posted by KRM on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:41 PM

wrmcclellan

Evening all!

LAZ LAZ LAZ LAZ  !!! RED ALERT !!!

You are falling behind in your mission! Report today on major brand beers that have declined in sales over 50% in the last 5 years !!!

  1.  Milwaukee’s Best "Light" -57% Surprise Say it is not so!!! Crying Sad Ashamed $12.39 for a 30 pack.
  2. Old Milwaukee -53%   Crying

  

 Something for those of you that don't drink.  Smile, Wink & Grin

http://now.msn.com/good-pets-gone-bad-photos

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