Looks like a lot of today's real railroad yards of by-gone days.
Just viewed the lastest pictures of your "progress", as it were. It is at times like these that I think of my favorite quote by Edgar "KB" Montrose:
"You need DYNAMITE, Red. And lots of it!"
I have figured out what is wrong with my brain! On the left side nothing works right, and on the right side there is nothing left!
Not only are screws better in alot of ways .... but did'nt they make the job of teardown a whole lot easier and no damage to your wood . Even if the one side is all knarley from scenery leftovers ... it can be flipped over for a whole new clean wood start . The use of screws makes for alot of savings and no hammering = rip and tear to disassemble . I advised all here to use them .. plus if you want to really clean that plywood of leftovers ... grab a hand held belt sander with heavy grit and knock that crap off with ease . They're a lil bit more on initial investment but they put alot more bucks back in your pocket by not having to buy new wood ... which only goes up in price ... when you can reuse wood !
Timboy......how much more deconstruction is left to do?
Jack.
IF IT WON'T COME LOOSE BY TAPPING ON IT, DON'T TRY TO FORCE IT. USE A BIGGER HAMMER.
Oh cripes, FlyerBoy has now invaded the HO forums with this scandalous behavior.
Like RockIsland52, I cannot bear to view this desecration on this forum, let alone the other forums.
Next thing you know, he will be posting on the Garden Railways Forum.
Rich
Alton Junction
I totally agree ... the basic fundamentals are the same in layout buiding .... but as you stated ... an inside and outside layout are two different worlds altogether ... but as far as scenery and buildings go I agree again ... same results just different scale / sizes . No ... I'll pass on the wood scraps .... LOL ... I'll probably end up with a bunch here ... thanks for the offer though . You had a great layout and have been there and tried that and know what to do and what not for the best results ... keep up the postings ... as they say a picture is worth a thousand words and so much easier for folks to see instead of trying to imagine without them . When I switched from HO to O scale I was only going to collect engines ... then added cars to collect ... I never thought I'd build another layout ... but guess what ... here I go again . My first train was an American Flyer .... I can still see it in my mind roaring around my huge track .... I was a kid but had over 40 + cars and about all the accessories .... bought by working on farms for about 50 cents and hour but availability of components were not there a few years ago .... NO EBAY . My dad sold it all when I was'nt looking ... broke my heart .... oh well ... maybe it was hard times and he needed the money .
Timboy Guys: I have been complaining a lot recently about how hard it is to tear down some of the mountains, etc. I built over the past five years. Tonight I felt compelled to take some pics of yet another scenic experiment that I had tried. This one was covering supports with old bedsheet pieces dipped into a plaster slurry.
Guys: I have been complaining a lot recently about how hard it is to tear down some of the mountains, etc. I built over the past five years. Tonight I felt compelled to take some pics of yet another scenic experiment that I had tried. This one was covering supports with old bedsheet pieces dipped into a plaster slurry.
Bedsheets, eh? For years I have used plaster soaked paper towels, built up over crumpled newspaper. (The newspaper is removed from underneath after the plaster hardens.) The resulting terrain is sturdy but tears down easily. And your comment that the scenery sections can be reused is quite accurate. When I tore down my second-to-last layout, I salvaged a large section of paper-towel-plaster scenery that I was able to incorporate directly into it's successor layout. Just add more plaster around the edges!
I also find it interesting that you are already incorporating ideas in the construction of your next layout that are deliberately designed to make it easier to deconstruct...
Timboy.....I remain in a state of shock and sadness at the passing of your old layout with all of that hand crafted scenicing, a funk which can only be cured by the signs of rebirth in your new layout.
Jack
RockIsland52 Timboy.....I remain in a state of shock and sadness at the passing of your old layout with all of that hand crafted scenicing, a funk which can only be cured by the signs of rebirth in your new layout. Jack
Timboy,
RockIsland52 is obviously suffering tremendously. Can't you stop destroying things for a few minutes and reassure him?
For me the fun in model railroading is the opportunity to create something new. Like you Tim Boy I have created and torn down many a layout. But the next one is always an improvement on the last. Your de-construction photos are great, they remind me of the decayed Rock Island yards at the Quad cities in Illinois.
I torn down my layout last year because I am getting ready to move. But the next one is already in the planning stages. For me I am going to try a module type around the wall layout. Something new I am trying at my son's place on his layout is the use of foam sheets for scenery. We have foam under the tracks as well as using the foam for vertical elevations. If we want a river we carved out a river, we needed an road underpass we cut out an underpass. I have done the hard shell scenery in the past but I like the ease of using foam. Good luck on your next layout
Most of the "FOAM" information I received came from the pages of Classic Toy Trains, But when I was at a local train show a vendor was selling foam sculpting hot wire tools and they had a instructional DVD with it. I will send you the information this week end since all of that stuff is over at my son's house.
Timboy Update on my progress: I'm trying to eliminate or at least minimize the number of legs I'll use on the front of my shelves and still have good support. To that end, I'm experimenting with brackets made out of plywood. I posted pics and details on my blog at: http://timmysamericanflyertrains.blogspot.com/
Update on my progress: I'm trying to eliminate or at least minimize the number of legs I'll use on the front of my shelves and still have good support. To that end, I'm experimenting with brackets made out of plywood. I posted pics and details on my blog at:
http://timmysamericanflyertrains.blogspot.com/
I are impressed. Relative to your comment about needing to pass electrical wiring: My understanding is that most of the compression/tension stresses will be concentrated along the edges of the plywood member. For that reason it should be perfectly acceptable to take a hole-saw and drill out a 2 or 3 inch opening dead smack in the middle of the web. It's done all the time with engineered wooden I-beams, and it supposedly does not affect the strength. As long as it in the middle, and not near the edges.
Timboy I have completed the first 20 feet of my new benchwork. Whew! See pics and details at my blog site at: http://timmysamericanflyertrains.blogspot.com/ -Timboy
I have completed the first 20 feet of my new benchwork. Whew! See pics and details at my blog site at: http://timmysamericanflyertrains.blogspot.com/
-Timboy
Sometimes, I get the feeling that you tore down your old layout some time ago and then recently completed your new layout. At this point, you are merely feeding us the deconstruction and reconstruction photos a little at a time.
Is this what you are doing, you little devil?
Otherwise, where are you finding the time to make so much progress so fast? You are remarkable !
Timboy I appologize if I left anyone out of the party. -Timboy
I appologize if I left anyone out of the party.
Nice going Timmy, you totally snubbed Sturgeon-Phish, the Leader of the Pack !
Timboy Rich Hot Rain: Who? I don't see any contribution by Mr. Fish to this thread, although his input is certainly welcome. -Timboy
Rich Hot Rain: Who? I don't see any contribution by Mr. Fish to this thread, although his input is certainly welcome.
Trust me, Boy Tim, he is lurking.
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