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Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, June 8, 2007 7:04 AM

Good Morning Tom and Company!

Well not much on the go. I got the garden planted. the place cleaned up and we finally set sail yesterday.

Tom: Those GP38's have been in dire need of paint for the last five or six years. Makes you wonder what's under the hood?

We'll be out until July 4th when we will be back in Halifax. I have about four or five MR kit's to build including a Erie Steam Shovel so at least I will be busy in my off time.

Later Gents

Fergie

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If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007  

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 8, 2007 7:32 AM

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G'day Gents!

Friday has arrived, signaling the final work day (for many) with the promise of a great weekend looming. Why not begin your day with a hot mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee along with pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery??? Consider a selection from our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast while you're at it! Thumbs Up [tup]

Severe weather predicted for the night didn't materialize - HOO-RAY, YAA-HOO! It's overcast ‘n raining lightly with temps expected to drop throughout the morning and then some lovely weather predicted for the weekend. Thumbs Up [tup]

Spent nearly 2 hours speaking with trolleyMAN Rob yesterday by fone . . . he called me! He's alive, working 6 days, promoted to store assistant manager, and sounding like the man we all have come to know and miss ‘round here. He passed his regards to one ‘n all and hopes to get back to a degree of regularity by the FALL!! Then of course that won't last long as the Christmas season will jump up to bite him in the caboose and the cycle begins again. Anyway, I hope we'll see him stop by now ‘n then (I've encouraged him to at least "pop" in once ‘n awhile) - but I'm afraid we've lost him as a "regular." I've given him an "Indefinite Leave of Absence," so we'll see what develops . . .

So, we now are in the "hunt" for a Chief Chef (again!) Chef [C=:-)] or perhaps an Assistant . . .

 

Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

 

Mike at 8:27 AM Thursday - June 7th: URLs from Silent Mike - and a round! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

CM3 Shane at 12:56 PM Thursday - June 7th: "Say the magic woid and the duck will come down . . . ." <Groucho> Good to see ya again and as always, a witticism here ‘n there interspersed with some fine "stuff" to enlighten, ed-u-mah-kate and enjoy! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Didn't know about Yogi's pop . . . books look mighty tempting, however, I'm sooooooo far behind in my reading that the more I take on, the behinder I get! <groan> <grin>

I'm not so sure the condition of those CN locos can all be attributed to the environment. Fergie has been keeping an eye out for these kinds of things from both sides of the harbor (harboUr) and has told me CN has cut back on "routine" maintenance over the years, so much so that paint jobs are now at the bottom of the list, if on it at all. <grim>

With two major rivers within a few miles of "anything" ‘round these parts, that river boat could have easily been transported from downtown by rail or on a flatbed truck . . . The question I have is how in the world did "they" land that DC47A where it is now?? <grin>

Thanx for the quarters, round ‘n conversation! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Pete at 6:06 PM Thursday - June 7th: As it turned out, YOURS was the FINAL Post for the day! Wow!! [wow] Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill, eh Question [?] Nevertheless, good to see ya and appreciate the time ‘n effort to keep up with the dialogue and so forth! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

I wouldn't get TOO encouraged regarding the attendees at the 3rd Annual "Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in Chicago 2008 ‘til it gets down to "weeks" rather than months. Been there, done that before and all it gets is disappointment at this early stage. HOWEVER, it is good to see the INTEREST emerging for our get together . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

If what West Coast S Dave provided some weeks back holds true, my guess is he's back Stateside by now and reacquainting himself with loved ones ‘n friends. May be awhile before he finds the time to twiddle away the hours in the Ether. I have hope that he'll return, when the timing is right! Thumbs Up [tup]

Regarding those empty sidings in the CN yard in Halifax: I recall when there was nothing but freight cars on those tracks - so much that you couldn't see the scenery beyond them. As Fergie told us, there appears to be "something" going on with CN and a cut back on the numbers of freights being assembled in Halifax. Even those we know in Bedford have told us that the numbers of passing trains has great diminished which is a mixed blessing. For the area it's a loss of revenue, for the residents it's peace ‘n quiet without the rude awakening of the horns that blare in the night!

The port has lost shipping which in turn creates the situation faced by CN to cut back. The other side of that coin is the shipping industry has been complaining about how long it takes to get their containerized freight from the port to locations throughout North America by way of Halifax and CN. Watchcagonnado, eh Question [?]

Now, now - let's not get too DOWN about a pay raise! After all, how long has it been since you became a "staff" member?? Hmmmmm - perhaps I'll let you have Rob's "scooper" for the upstairs tub. It IS a tad larger . . . <grin>

 

Fergie at 7:04 AM today - June 8th: Hey, Mate - what a treat! A message from far away at sea!! Wow!! [wow] Good of you to swing by and appreciate your thinking of us . . . .

Gardens, model trains, riding real train, cold beer (sorry, Brits!), puppy dogs 'n pretty gals! That's what this life is all about, eh Question [?] Nooooooooo, say some. <grin>

Yeah, I knew about the CN "stuff" from our conversation a few years back when you provided that great tour of the Terry Fox (Canadian Coast Guard vessel) . . . those locos are a blemish on the landscape, fer sure, fer sure! Thumbs Down [tdn]

Next time in, have "one" on me!

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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, June 8, 2007 8:01 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox.

Sox win!  Old Shill took a no hitter into the bottom of the 9th b4 it got broken up on what was, at least, a clean base hit.  Ortiz's HR in the early innings held up.  I'm the kind of fan that likes low scoring games, but 1-0 is cutting it a bit too thin.  The Bostons go to Arizona this weekend for interleague activities against the Diamondbacks.  Real baseball - pitchers hit.

I watched the Cards and Reds on TV last night.  Also, I am sure they removed all sharp objects from the Dodgers clubhouse as well - what a meltdown that was (sorry Cap!)    

Fergie stopped by.  I had a similar question re those GP38s.  My first thought was that there had been a fire, but then seeing so many of them...deferred maintenance is the enemy. 

Pete - Many trains here used to switch cars in an out en route; especially sleepers.  Check out the end of this post for an example.

The NY setouts were, IIRC, the last ones operating here.  They were usually 10/6 cars. 

My favorite ATK runs before they changed everything around used to be 66 and 67 ("Night Owl,") and 48-448/449-49 ("Lake Shore") because of the work they did en route.  The last time I rode the "Lake Shore" was on a Chicago-Boston-Chicago turn.  Did Business Class between Boston and Albany and rode sleeper on the Chicago-Albany leg.  It worked out o.k., but it was not the same as a through sleeper.  At least they still had the diner, which is more than I can say for 50/51. 

OSP - I understand what you mean about decline in harbors.  Boston and New York are two more that come to mind, the latter especially.  I am sure Lars will back us up on our musings here.   

More pictures.  The StL IM&S brought to mind that the most recent Classic Trains had a fine piece on MP 4-6-0s, many of which had strange ancestries and histories.

So let's put some MP material up for your consideration.  This is from 1932. Yes, Boris, it was in the east wing and thank you for holding the lantern so I could find the folder.

ST. LOUIS TO SOUTHWEST

"SUNSHINE SPECIAL"

 

1

"Sunshine Special"

6:30 p.m. (St. Louis) (SU)

3:15 a.m. Little Rock (MO)

7:00 a.m. Texarkana

9:15 a.m. (Longview Jct.)

9:00 p.m. (Big Spring)

8:55 a.m. (El Paso) (TU)

 

9:25 a.m. (Longview Jct.)

12:01 p.m. (Palestine)

 

 

 

12:05 p.m. (Palestine)

 

 

 

 

10:00 p.m. (San Antonio)

 

 

 

 

 

1:15p.m. (Ft. Worth)

 

 

7:50 a.m. (Los Angeles) (WE) - via SP

 

11:45 a.m. (Palestine)

4:00 p.m. (Houston)

5:45 p.m. (Galveston)

4:20 a.m. (Corpus Christi) (TU)

7:55 a.m. (Brownsville) (TU)

7:50 p.m. (San Antonio)

2:00 a.m. (Laredo) (TU)

8:30 a.m. (Monterrey) (TU) - via NdeM

8:45 a.m. (Mexico City) (WE) - via NdeM

8:45 a.m. (Mission) (TU)

St. Louis - Los Angeles Sleeping Car: 10 sections/2 compartments/ drawing room to SP Train 1 @ El Paso

St. Louis - El Paso Sleeping Car: 12 sections/ drawing room/ compartment

St. Louis -San Antonio and Mission Sleeping Car: 12 sections/ drawing room/ compartment; SAU&G Train 215 San Antonio - Odem; then to GC&L Train 15-13

St. Louis - New Orleans Sleeping Car: 12 sections/drawing room; from Little Rock in Train 101

St. Louis - Shreveport Sleeping Car: 12 sections/drawing room via L&A from Hope

St. Louis - Mexico City Sleeping Car: 10 sections/2 compartments/drawing room

St. Louis - Houston and Galveston Sleeping Car: 10 sections/2 compartments/ drawing room

Little Rock - Shreveport Sleeping Car: 12 sections/drawing room/compartment

via L&A from Hope

San Antonio - Laredo Sleeping Car: 12 sections/drawing room

Houston - Corpus Christi Sleeping Car: 12 sections/drawing room

San Antonio - Corpus Christi Sleeping Car: 12 sections/drawing room via SP, November - December; via MP, January - March

San Antonio - Brownsville Sleeping Car: 12 sections/drawing room

San Antonio - Mexico City Sleeping Car: 10 sections/observation

Houston - Brownsville Sleeping Car: 10 sections/observation

De Luxe Parlor Observation (Shower, valet, fountain, lounge, radio): Sr. Louis - El Paso - Los Angeles

Café Lounge Observation: Longview Jct. - San Antonio

Café Lounge Observation: Palestine - Houston

Dining Car

Dining Car: Hope - Shreveport

Reclining Seat Chair Cars and coaches

I amy be running a bit late on Monday, ues and Friday of next week; but will do my best to make an appearance.

work safe

 

 

 

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 8, 2007 9:06 AM

G'day Gents!

Continuing on with a bit of "normalcy" - here's another Nostalgia piece from awhile ago! 

 


PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #39

Initially Posted on Page 184 of the original Thread . . .


Here's something to enjoy regarding the Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR) in a 1949 advertisement from my private collection:



The New BROADWAY LIMITED


NEW YORK - CHICAGO

Now in Service


THE NEWLY-EQUIPPED Broadway Limited presents completely new conception of travel . . . with new styling, appointments, riding ease and beauty . . . more comforts and conveniences than ever before, representing the finest that modern design and engineering can offer.

Beautiful new Lounge and Observation Cars . . . attractive new Dining Cars . . . distinctively new, all-room sleeping cars . . . plus the Broadway Limited's traditional hospitality - all for your personal travel pleasure! WE invite you to make a reservation for your next trip.

 

 

NEW MID-TRAIN LOUNGE AND OBSERVATION LOUNGE CAR - Richly appointed for leisure. Magazines, buffets.

 

NEW MASTER DINING CAR - Attractively furnished and decorated. Enjoy delicious food . . . meticulous service. Entire car reserved for dining.

 

ROOMETTES for one. Full-length bed, wardrobe, complete toilet facilities.

 

DUPLEX ROOMS for one person. Full length bed becomes comfortable divan during day. Toilet facilities.

 

COMPARTMENTS for two. Sofa-seat and lounge chair. Lower and upper beds. Wardrobe, enclosed toilet annex.

 

BEDROOMS - for one or two - in three new styles. Lower and upper beds, wardrobe, enclosed toilet annex.

 

DRAWING ROOMS for three. Sofa-seat and lounge chairs . . . three beds. Wardrobe, enclosed toilet annex.




PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD






Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 8, 2007 11:01 AM

G'day Gents!

 

The final Pix from Day Two: Friday - May 25th, 2007 - VIA Rail to Halifax, NS from Montreal, QC . . .

 

Arrival Halifax!

 

VIA Rail's Ocean w/Renaissance consist arrives Halifax

 

We made it!

 

 

Tom & "Our" Renaissance bedroom car

 

VIA Rail's F40PHs get an inspection at Halifax

 

Spiderman has a dirty face!

 

See ya tomorrow for the return trip!

 

Halifax station from trackside

 

Interior of Halifax VIA Rail station

 

Tribute to VIA Rail Remembrance Train of 2005 - "The Year of the Veteran"

 

To be continued . . .

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 8, 2007 3:07 PM

G'day Gents!

 

Continuing with MORE Pix from the 2nd Annual "Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis:

Saturday - May 19, 2007  

 

The St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO)

(more detailed descriptions <for many> previously provided by Eric ‘n Doug)

 

Wabash S Mogul 2-6-0 #573. Built in Rhode Island (1889).

 

Eric checking out #573

 

Hey Pete! This is where they keep the cold beer! <grin>

 

What's a railway museum without at least ONE RDC, eh Question [?]

Massachusetts Bay Area Transportation Authority #54 - RDC1; originally built for Canadian Pacific Railway by the Budd Company.

 

MoPac Caboose #13889. Built by MoPac (1980).

 

More later . . .

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, June 8, 2007 3:51 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Batham's please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

FERGIE Good to hear from you aboard shipThumbs Up [tup]. Have a safe voyage and look forward to hearing from you again soon.Yeah!! [yeah]

CM3 Many thanks for the info on switching out and that wonderful MP Sunshine Special schedule from 1932Thumbs Up [tup] So many destinations from St Louis on the one trainWow!! [wow]. I guess in 1932 it would be all steam hauled with steam doing the switching moves as wellQuestion [?]. It would be interesting to see what different types of locos were involved hauling, say the St Louis to Mexico City car. To have traveled in the De-Luxe Parlor Observation car must have been quite an experience.Yeah!! [yeah]

Talking of train splitting reminded of, before the Carstairs to Edinburgh line was electrified there were trains that were diesel hauled from Liverpool and Manchester which were joined at Preston to be electric hauled through Carlisle to Carstairs where the train was split again. The portion from Manchester, that contained the refreshment car, carried on behind the electric loco to Glasgow while a diesel backed on for the Edinburgh portion. In the opposite direction the Edinburgh portion ran through Carstairs station to wait for the Glasgow part to run in, the diesel then reversed the Edinburgh cars onto the rest of the train. It was a pleasure to watch this operation as the shunters who connected the train were very good at the lob and the train was on its way very quickly.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] Unfortunately not like some specials I have been on where a loco change as taken ages. Thumbs Down [tdn]

TOM Yes the storms did not reach here etherThumbs Up [tup] and quite a cool down today as well.Approve [^]

Glad you have heard from ROB and he is doing well although very busyThumbs Up [tup] .It will be great if Rob can call in the bar as he is very much missed.Yeah!! [yeah]

It does seem sad about the freight in Halifax, I guess from what you say, the less there is the more they have to charge on the ones that still run to pay for the track etc. Another thing I suppose is a lot more cargo comes from Asia today and they use the west coast ports. Unfortunately in Britain there would be houses or other buildings on the disused sidings very quickly.Thumbs Down [tdn]

Thanks for the PRR Broadway Limited Nostalgia from 1949Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] indeed a golden age for American rail travel.Yeah!! [yeah]

Enjoyed the photos of our arrival in HalifaxThumbs Up [tup], sorry about my arm in the last photo.Oops [oops]

Great photos at St Louis MOTWow!! [wow]Thumbs Up [tup] poor old Wabash #573 Sad [:(]lets hope that the 112 year old loco can be restored to her former glory one dayYeah!! [yeah], at least she is still in existence.Approve [^]

Great spotting the RDC in the undergrowth, an ex CP one at that.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

Cold beer on the AerotrainShock [:O] I wonder if the high noise levels, as said in the sign, were the cans rolling aboutBig Smile [:D].

They have done a great job on that MO-PAC cabooseThumbs Up [tup], it looks better than brand newWow!! [wow]Yeah!! [yeah].

We shall be out most of the day tomorrow and I am not sure what time I shall be back so I will post some pics.

Another Round please RUTH and the SteakDinner [dinner] later so I have enough energy to stock the barYeah!! [yeah], (and to lift the bigger dipper)Approve [^]Smile [:)]

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Posted by marthastrainyard on Friday, June 8, 2007 8:09 PM

Bow [bow]Good Evening everybody present!

Leon, Ill have a pint of Holden's, and a round for everybody present. And since I am here in time for pizza, let's have a Hawaiian pizza, please!

How ‘bout them dar DUCKS! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom, you had mentioned renaming the arena to the Aflack Pond. Anything "Pond" would be great right now. Honda took it over and it is the "Honda Arena"; no more "Pond" in there and no more "Mighty" in the team name since Disney sold it all off. Banged Head [banghead]

Thank you for all the recognition of Svenska Flaggans Dag!

I liked your pictures from the St. Louis Museum of Transport. It seems to be a real Transport museum, boats, planes and trains. A couple of them stand out in my mind: The Laclede Christy is such a neat little machine. Almost wish I could have one in my back yard. The Chicago & Illinois Midland #551 is another engine that just shows power and grace in my mind. I have always liked the 2-8-4 (and the 4-8-4) because of that.

That rusty ol' Wabash Mogul #573 in the background looks interesting. There seems to be a number of old, rusty engines on that track. Are they waiting for restoration, or are they spare parts?

Maybe the C-47 was dropped by parachute? You know, Dumbo drop. Whistling [:-^]

The link to the railroad history of the U.S. is really great! Thank you for that little gem! It did mention Ellicott and I thought I had seen and read about it when I visited the B&O museum in Baltimore many years ago. Can you imagine losing $20,000 200 years ago? That Mr. Stevens must have been a man on means b eing able to come back after that. Oops [oops]

You say a bunk is a bunk, but what I was wondering is if there is a noticeable difference in the size of the beds in the Budd cars and in the Ren cars. It may not be as big of a difference as I read in that other article about the canal boats on rail. A bookcase as a bed, huh? The overhead storage is the same problem Amtrak has. But there it is the Superliner that has the smaller and the Viewliner that has the bigger storage.

I tried to learn Morse code once, but I didn't spend enough time with it, so I never got anywhere. I still remember letter "e" though Wink [;)]

Looking at that picture of the harbor at Halifax and all the merchant ships getting ready for a convoy across the Atlantic, I wonder how nervous many of the sailors were. The German Wolf Packs were waiting for them and I guess the loss rate was pretty high at times. Those sailors were true heroes in my mind! Bow [bow]

I saw earlier that you had a Southern Horoscope! So I'm a bunch of Grits, huh? I guess I will have to get enough courage to try a serving one of these days. My Father-In-Law grew up on that thing in Florida and he hates it; that's all I have heard about it.

You posted ads for both 20th Century Limited and Broadway Limited. What train used the tracks that Amtrak's Lakeshore Limited uses today? Question [?] The Broadway Limited advertises that the entire diner is reserved for dining, what did it used to be? Do they mean that half of the car was a kitchen and that this train has a separate kitchen car?

I like the pictures from your trip. The landscape up there remind me a lot of south-central Sweden in many ways. But I bet it gets colder in Canada than it does in Sweden in the winter. You said the Canadian shippers had complained about the slow freight movement on rail. I think I remember reading in the Trains magazine in the early 80's that a normal transcontinental box car traveled with an average speed of 7 mph. If I remember right, no wonder shippers complain! Thumbs Down [tdn]

 

Doug, I will try to stick around for a while. I think you have made me go to Barnes & Noble again! I think I need to pick up that Horseshoe Curve book; it just sound too interesting to pass up! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Eric, I'm glad you got your citizenship 10 years ago. Congratulations! I am still waiting for mine. The process that should have taken 18 months has now taken over 3 years, and there is still no sign of any progress! I guess that birthday of mine 6 years ago "changed everything" or so they want to make us believe. SoapBox [soapbox]

Yes, 1967, that's it. I think September 3rd, or 4th was the big Sunday. I drove the 360 miles up to Stockholm that day and it was an experience! Wow!! [wow]

I haven't been on a sleeper train in Sweden for years, so I don't know if there are any direct cars anymore. There used to be a "blue car" the CIWL sleeper from Stockholm to the continent and I was lucky when I could get a bed in that car. I found those beds much more comfortable that the regular beds.

Technically I am not retiring, just "pretiring" on 12/31/2007. I get a severance package if I leave, so I will try to live off of that money until it is time to retire. We'll see how it works. But we stop working on the same day, what a coincidence! Smile [:)]

I didn't realize that all cars had to have magnetic brakes if they go over 160 kmh (100 mph). No wonder it gets expensive and that there aren't any trains going faster than that. I wondered where that speed limit that is painted on the cars came from, now I know. Thank you.

 

Thank you for the Stockholm picture, Mike. That's from the Baltic Exhibition way back when but some of the buildings are still standing to this day. I recognized one little brick building in the far left background. It was built be the Skåne brick industry and it is still there today. All of these buildings were/are on the island of Djurgåden ("Animal Farm") Smile [:)] in Stockholm.

That Marlyn Rich must have been a gutsy gal. Imagine hanging from a helicopter like that and take a ride! No thanks, not for me!

 

Pete, as I mentioned, it wasn't until last year the June 6 became a holiday. They had to trade another holiday for it, and I heard rumors that "they" regret the trade. The traded a holiday always on a Monday for June 6 which will fall on Saturdays and Sundays, so over a few years they have lost a day off.

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, June 9, 2007 2:24 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, Saturday morning, how about a juicy Filet Mignon with lots of mushroom! 

Missed last night, so it took some time tonight to catch up. Time well spent, though!

Tom –  What a dream, dreaming you are awake all night!Mischief [:-,] Sleeping, but still awake! I guess I am lucky, it takes less than one minute for me to fall asleep after I turn off the light.

July 4th was a perfect day for my ceremony to become a citizen!! They showed me on the news that evening on our local CBS station! What surprises me is that so many have dual citizenships. That is not right from my point of view.

Thanks for the picture of Bedford Basin!Thumbs Up [tup] I have seen it before but it is always interesting to see all those ships getting ready to sail for a dangerous voyage across the Atlantic Ocean.

I saw I missed Dave’s birthday May 27.Oops [oops] I hope he is okay and back home by now. Do you know?Question [?]

NYC’s King-Size Diner, with a separate kitchen car,would have been nice to try!Yeah!! [yeah] PRR had a master Dioning Car, but not with a separate kitchen car.

More intersting pictures from Halifax!Thumbs Up [tup] Those locos, 4720, 4721, 4730, and 4774 certainly need a new paint job! They look terrible. Nice to see your pictures from the Rendezvous!!  I missed to get a good picture of that streetcar, #10.Grumpy [|(]

I also missed those old locomotives behind the Aerotrain! I never saw there was several of them. Sigh [sigh]

The Spider Man locomotive obviously took you all the way from Montreal to Halifax!? How far is it? Question [?]

Good to hear that Rob is okay! Smile [:)]

How did they land that DC47 where it is now? With a high grade of precision!Yeah!! [yeah]

About the 3rd Rendezvous, I’ll be there!Wink [;)]

Mike –  Thanks for the links!!Thumbs Up [tup] When I saw the picture from Stockholm (The Art and Industrial Fair of 1897) I did not believe it was from Stockholm. But it is. The tall building in the center of the picture was a temporary, wooden structure, was almost 300 feet high.

A picture of king Gustav II Adolf of Sweden! He was killed in a battle in Germany November 6, 1632. Sweden was then involved in the 30 year War in Europe.

I like those pictures of the Hell Gate Bridge!Yeah!! [yeah]

CM3 –  I found some info about ALCO’s Hi-Ad trucks, see link.

http://www.greenbayroute.com/hiad.htm

Interesting design to eliminate the weight transfer. Thanks for the info!Thumbs Up [tup]

I found this picture I took last December. I think this is a similar design, a FB 3 truck.



“Combat Loaded” sounds like an interesting book!Thumbs Up [tup] I’ll check this weekend if the book store has it so I can have a closer look at it.

My brain is obviously dead. First I couldn’t read the Sunshine Special timetable at all, but finally things are getting in place. It took from Sunday evening til Wednesday morning to travel by train from St. Louis to Mexico City.

Pete –  Thanks for the congratulations!Thumbs Up [tup]

It was kind of strange to switch to right-hand traffic but I got used to it in a very short period of time. I don’t think UK will ever change.Smile [:)] Double track rail lines in Sweden are built to handle left-hand and/or right-hand traffic. It doesn’t matter. Usually it is left-hand traffic, but quite often you have two trains running side by side in the same direction or you have trains running right-hand traffic. It is very flexible.

I don’t think the US railroads painted the coupling roads silver. As far as I know that paint is just a protection against rust on locomotives on static display.Smile [:)]

Fergie –  Hope to hear from you again soon! Maybe we will be lucky to see some pictures of those models when you get back?! Wink [;)]

Per –  It took me about eleven months from when I applied until I became a citizen. Not too bad. I hope you will have your citizenship soon! Three years is a loooong time!

I don’t know if I mentioned that my employer wants me to work part time for another year after my retirement and if we can agree I will work 50 % until the end of 2008. That is when my wife retires. Working 50% will give me much more time than today to do things I really want to do, like chasing gir... hmm, trains.

I think there are very few direct cars (if any) to the rest of Europe from Stockholm today. Except for trains to Copenhagen and Oslo.

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 9, 2007 7:56 AM

ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!

at "Our" Place!

We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!


Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

. . . June 10th thru 16th: Beyond The Fringe (1963) Starring: Dudley Moore, Alan Bennett, Jonathan MillerPeter Cook - and - Windtalkers (2002) Starring: Nicolas Cage, Adam Beach, Peter Stormare, Noah Emmerich & Mark Ruffalo. SHORT: The Three Stooges - All The World's A Stooge (1941).

 

Beyond The Fringe (1963)

PLOT SUMMARY:

Before The Daily Show, before Saturday Night Live, even before Monty Python, there was Beyond the Fringe-the 1960s West End and Broadway hit revue that reinvented comedy. While another Fab Four was revolutionizing music, Alan Bennett, Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, and Jonathan Miller were giving birth to the British satire boom. With nothing but their brilliant writing and inspired performances, they created side-splitting comedy that held nothing and no one sacred. In the process, the four performers became international stars. It was long thought that no filmed record of the original cast existed, until this gem was discovered in a producer's vault. A 1964 gala farewell performance in London, it features the troupe's classic sketches, including "Man Bites God," "Aftermyth of War," and "One Leg Too Few."  

from: amazon.com

 

 

Windtalkers (2002)

Having earned Hollywood's respect with blockbusters like Face/Off and Mission: Impossible 2, Hong Kong action master John Woo lends his signature style to serious World War II action in Windtalkers. Recognizing the long-forgotten contribution of Navajo "code talkers," whose use of an unbreakable Navajo-language radio code was instrumental in defeating the Japanese, the film serves as an admirable tribute to those Native American heroes. Unfortunately, it falls short of importance with its standard-issue story about a battle-scarred sergeant (Nicolas Cage) assigned to protect a code-talker (Adam Beach, from Smoke Signals), with unspoken orders to kill him if Japanese capture is imminent. This allows for an involving drama of hard-won friendship, but cardboard supporting characters suffer in the shadow of nonstop action that's as repetitious as it is technically impressive. Windtalkers is best appreciated as a more substantial vehicle for Woo's trademark ballet of bullets. --Jeff Shannon

From: amazon.com

 

 

SHORT: All The World's A Stooge (1941)


PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly

Lotta Bullion distresses her husband Ajax with her new plan to take in war refugees. Ajax, already suffering from a toothache, goes to the dentist and mistakes three brainless janitors as dentists. After a successful (if unusual) tooth-pulling, the Stooges escape and take refuge in Ajax's car, where he immediately disguises them as children and introduces them to his wife as the new refugees. In the end, however, it is Ajax chasing them out again... with a large ax.

from: threestooges.net

 

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 9, 2007 9:40 AM

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents!

Another Saturday and I have a feeling things are going to be rather QUIET

Zzz [zzz] 'round the premises today . . . ACKNOWLEDGMENTS will be provided on Monday as has been the practice - UNLESS things pick up considerably of course! Appreciate the visits by CM3 Shane, Pete, Per 'n Eric - especially the "heads up" on planned absences or late arrivals. That ALWAYS helps in keeping the "flow" somewhat orchestrated . . Shane 'n Wolfman!! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

We've been providing MANY, MANY Pix lately at the bar on days OTHER THAN Saturdays - and that practice is going to CHANGE once all of the Rendezvous 'n Canada Rail trip fotos get Posted. The idea is to encourage DIALOGUE AT THE BAR with Pix as SUPPLEMENTAL to the chat. So, let's keep that in mind as we plod along . . . Not to worry though, there are zillions of Rendezvous 'n Canada trip fotos left! <grin>

Going back a bit in time, here's a Post from May 18th, 2005 (my B'day!) on Page 13 of the original Thread . . . Most appropriate for ENCORE! Saturday . . .

Canadian Rail Journey, Part II

On Sunday, May 8th, 2005 (Mother's Day and VE Day) I set out on my solo round trip from Halifax, Nova Scotia to Ottawa, Ontario via Montreal, Quebec. Arriving at VIA Rail's Halifax Station in a torrential downpour, the line up for Easterly Class sleepers had just begun.

I noticed a rather large group of people all wearing name tags and my first thought was, "Oh no, a tourist group!" Experiences from past journeys have not all been that pleasant when encountering some of these organized rail trips and I hope this would be different. It was.

It didn't take long for me to discern the pronunciation of certain words that only people who reside in the St. Louis, MO, USA area can appreciate. The group turned out to be comprised of people from my community and those adjacent to it. The tour director had been my three children's math teacher in high school and before I realized it, it was "old home week" at the Halifax Station. This particular fellow and I have traveled aboard the same trains, but never as part of his group. He does a good job at ensuring that all goes well, without the intrusiveness experienced with other groups.

On this day, Train #15, the all BUDD consist of 11 cars (1 baggage car, 2 coaches, one Skyline dome car, one dining car, 5 Chateau series sleepers and the Evangeline Park Car (observation dome with 2 lounges and 4 bedrooms) awaited us. Heading up the train were two F40PH's, numbered 6441 and 6405 respectively. The train was booked full, including the coaches. There was talk of adding another coach at Moncton, NB, however, that didn't occur as one wasn't available.

The rain had been falling since Saturday morning and this was monsoon-like. Heading northward towards Truro, the water on either side of the right-of-way was running fast and at times appeared to be very, very close to the roadbed. Sitting in the Park Car dome, the vantage point was sufficient enough to determine the impact of the storm on the country side. Several crossings had police cars blocking them, lights flashing, probably because of roadways under water.

By the time the train wound its way through the great scenery between Truro and Amherst (last stop in Nova Scotia) the rain began to let up. Our arrival in Moncton was only long enough for me to dash out into the rain, take some photo's and get back aboard for the continuation of the journey. One of my new-found friends from a community not far from where I live, accompanied me and we got more than a few chuckles from the employees all huddled beneath this or that wondering who these "Yay hoos" were with their cameras! Been there, done that before and will undoubtedly do it again! With a refueled train at the ready, the remainder of the trip was enjoyable - as always.

The dining car was jammed for the evening meal - at least a 15 minute wait for a table. Good to see, in that many of my previous trips witnessed near empty situations, even though the trains were rather full. Somehow this all didn't equate - fewer menu selections, higher prices equals greater demand? Huh? Another delightful meal, some great dinner table chit chat over a couple of Keith's Pale Ale, then back to the dome. Ahhhhhhh.

Couldn't handle much more beyond Campbellton, so it was time to hit the sack. I had a single (Roomette) on this journey in the Chateau Brule bedroom car adjacent to the Evangeline Park observation dome car. This single was an "upper," in that the step down could be a ‘killer' if one forgot it was there! Happens .... Amazing how every bit of space is wisely planned for ......... a good night's sleep interrupted only by my curiousness to take a look through the wide window now and then. Some snow on the ground between western New Brunswick and eastern Quebec.

Morning on the "Ocean" began very early for me. I arose at 4 AM - and decided to sit in the Evangeline Park's dome until our stop at Charny station. While this stop has existed for decades, the feature stop for the "Ocean" was at a place on the south bank of the St. Lawrence Seaway, directly across from Quebec City called Levis. When on the eastbound, the train sat for about 20 minutes, which gave the passengers an incredible view of the ramparts and lights of Quebec City - just wonderful. The westbound got in a bit early (as with Charny), so most times I slept through that ..... About five years ago, the tracks were sold and removed for Condominiums (or so the story goes) and the Levis station faded into history. The ferry connection between Levis and Quebec City lost much of its charm insofar as passenger train travelers were concerned.

At Charny on the westbound, the train backs in, whereas it is the opposite heading east. Took a few minutes to breath in the chilly morning air - chat a bit with crew and just enjoy the beginning of yet another great morning with VIA Rail.

I must say that those continental breakfasts in the Bullet Lounge of the Park Car was sorely missed on this day. I'm a "pill taker" in my advancing age and without something of substance to go with them, the experience can be rather unpleasant. Fortunately, "Joanne," our attendant, noticed my discomfort and immediately provided me with a few packages of cookies to go with the complimentary juices, coffee, tea and hot chocolate in the Park Car. She's a "sweetheart" for sure - an "old timer" from our traveling days aboard the "Atlantic," which used to run between Montreal and Halifax, but took a more southerly route through Maine. A story for another day .......

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 9, 2007 10:29 AM

Good morning Tom and crew. I just had breakfast on the road, so I'll wait until it's OK to buy a beer. Been doing a little more scouring the immediate area earlier today for activities and sights for the 2008 Rendezvous, which took me to East Troy to see the East Troy Electric Railroad Museum.

The sign out front reads:

East Troy Railroad. Wisconsin's last interurban line. The East Troy Railroad is the last vestige of Wisconsin's once broad network of interurban railways. Concentrated in the southeastern quarter of the state, this network once totaled approximately 385 miles of track. Most of the interurban railway mileage in Wisconsin was built between 1890 and 1910; the last interurban passenger in the state was carried in 1963 by The North Shore Line, formerly a part of the Milwaukee Electric Railway & Light Company, carried passengers between East Troy and Milwaukee from 1907 until 1939. Since 1939 the six mile line has existed as a railroad freight connection for the village of East Troy.

Unfortunately for me today, most of the cars owned by the museum are stored indoors and off-site. Here is the little bit that was there early this morning

I happened to run into one of their volunteers, who said that they had recently been experiencing some vandalism. Vandalism makes it necessary to store their stuff, so that even when the museum opens for operation later in the morning, you only get to see the operating equipment. Crummy deal for everyone and I have no other pictures of equipment to share, as I had to get home before the museum even opened. Maybe another day, or maybe we might want to make this a stop for the Rendezvous.

There has actually been some talk about firing-up the electrical generating equipment in this building, as it all is still there, but I guess this brings up noise issues, and the substation itself is located in a residential neighborhood.

The website for this museum is: http://www.easttroyrr.org/

Maybe we have time to visit, and maybe we won't. At least one of our days will be spent in Chicago, and another at the IRM and probably one more local RR place, possibly this one.

Before leaving, (and then returning later with a more inclusive post) here's a picture I took in Springfield Wisconsin, on the way to East Troy that I thought was interesting. This mailbox is at least three feet long and 1 foot tall!

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 9, 2007 1:34 PM

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents!

Pix from Day Three: Saturday - May 26th, 2007 - Halifax, Nova Scotia

 

VIA Rail Station, Halifax, Nova Scotia

 

VIA Rail Station &"Our" Hotel

 

The immediate vicinity of the Rail Station & Hotel

 

"Our" hotel - room faced the park

 

One of several statues - this one is in tribute to Edward Cornwallis, founder of Halifax

 

To be continued . . . .

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, June 9, 2007 2:20 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Cindy my deAH - drinks on the house - the Larsman has returned! Boris ring the bell! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] I'll take a double ‘hit' of JD on the rocks if you please and put this fifty aside for a round later on . . . the change is YOURS my deAH! <grin>

Greetings from a library in the outskirts of Sacramento, California - Yeah, a library! Finally couldn't take anymore of the isolation and told the Mrs. that I'd be back when I got back!

This has been a nightmarish several weeks - all was fine in the Keys, but once the decision was made to come west, as Cap'n Tom would say <arrrgggghhhh> <double arrrrgggghhhh>! Thumbs Down [tdn] Far too much personal crap to get into, but ain't no way this is gonaa happen again - at least not where I'm concerned.

So, I've spent the past 3 hours - yes 3 hours - checking out what's what and I must say I'm impressed. Super impressed. (Also super impressed with "Connie" who has so graciously allowed me to remain online . . .) Surely appears to me that in spite of the diminished resources at the bar, the place is humming along quite nicely just like a well tuned engine. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

The Rendezvous pix from the guys (Tom - Doug 'n Eric) have brought me to near-tears. Really! I wanted so much to be there with you guys and thought for awhile it was going to happen. Then events pretty much overtook me - getting the mother-in-law taken care of - the trips to the Keys - purchasing the house - this Censored [censored] trip, and so forth.

Surely looks like Cap'n Tom put together one heckuva slate of events for youse guys and it makes me happy ‘n sad at the same time. Happy for YOU - sad for ME! <groan. <double groan> Not jealous - not envious, just very sorry that this year didn't work out. Won't even begin to talk about 2008 - the way things are going in my life, I may be on the dark side of the moon by then. <groan> HOWEVER, Tom, please add me to the email list for planning the next one, ok??

So the Wolfman ‘n the Cap'n survived one another in Canada, eh??? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Figured you'd have a blast and hope all the plans went well - weather too. Nothing ticks me off more than to orchestrate such an adventure only to have uncooperative weather. <boo> <hiss> Anyway, I have "this image" of you two trying to order a brew in French and winding up with something far different! <laff laff> Really looking forward to the pix from the Canadian RR museum! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Some truly fine shots thus far of the trip to Halifax  . . . really looking forward to the rest of ‘em. Fergie looks pretty much the sailor and I know I've viewed his mug before. Maybe a ways back though . . . Looks like a sailor to me! <grin> Must've been a "hoot" to see him again, huh??

I gather the Canadian brew must've been up to Pete's high standards, as I haven't noticed any complaints! <grin>

My intent with this appearance is to let youse guys know that I'm still around, but just unable to communicate to my liking. The set-up where we're staying is archaic when it comes to computing. Fortunately they at least have email that isn't tied to a on-line configuration. Don't even ask me to explain that! Anyway, when it works I've been able to get some messages out - nothing in though. Figure that out yourselves!

Expect to be leaving here next week - home by the weekend and hopefully back with the guys (and Ruth) shortly thereafter! Have faith gents, I haven't deserted the ship! I think the Mrs. has figured out that she's taxed me to the absolute breaking point this time . . . love her dearly, but families are something else to reckon with. <grimace 'n groan>

Best regards to all who have tried their best to keep the bar ship shape. Looks like Shane has been ever present in his Monday thru Friday slot - Pete taking up the 6 days per week in the mid to late afternoons - Eric being the night owl and a new fellow - Per -  (haven't we "met" once before??), who has provided some really great epistles (as Cap'n Tom calls ‘em). Oh yes, DL has been in ‘n out - so things appear to have been steady as she goes, huh???

Special hello to Doug ‘n Rob too! Sorry to see that youse guys are no longer able to keep up with the flow, however, it sure is nice to know you're still around! Thumbs Up [tup]

 I should ask, anyone heard from my "bookend" BK lately?? I sent several emails with no responses. Even called him three times - once from the Keys and twice from here. All I got was an answering machine. Hate to think the worst, but perhaps . . .

I'm going to provide some ENCORE! book covers - just to remain within the spirit of this day and to let youse guys know I haven't forgotten HOW!

Cindy my deAH, drinks on the Larsman, Boris ring the ding and get out those treats for the crittAHS - a bucket of ice cubes for Frostbite - a tray of seeds for Awk - a saucer of brine for Tex and a LARGE jar of pickled pig's feet for Boris!! Thumbs Up [tup]

ENCORE book covers for ENCORE! Saturday Yeah!! [yeah]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, June 9, 2007 3:58 PM

Good afternoon Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Hello Ruth! What happened? You're smiling and singing, I could hear you from the outside?! Ohh, Manager Lars is back? No, I don't have time to stay, just want to drop some pictures before I am going to the post office. Tell the guys I'll be back later!

 

Saturday is the day for pictures so I thought I should post some randomly picked ones.

The Trainwreck saloon, a great place to eat and drink!

 

Some locos and cars at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation.

 

I thought I missed to take a picture of this streetcar, but here it is, #10.

 

Ghosts in one of the Barretts Tunnels!

 

Halifax? If so I wonder what Amtrak is doing there?

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, June 9, 2007 5:07 PM

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents!

SPECIAL RECOGNITION for the return of our Manager, the Larsman! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

Also good to see the Pix 'n chat from Doug 'n Eric! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

MORE Pix from the 2nd Annual "Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis:

Saturday - May 19, 2007  

The St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO)

(more detailed descriptions <for many> previously provided by Eric ‘n Doug)

 

Northern Pacific Caboose #1082

 

Doug checking out the rolling stock!

 

Georgia Railroad 0-6-0 #724. Built by Baldwin (1896)

 

U.S. Army Gas Turbine (experimental) 1-B-1. Built in Davenport (1954)

 

St. Louis Water Division #1 SRD B. Built by Whitcomb (1924)

 

Milwaukee Road EP2 Class - #E2. 1B+D+D+B1. Built by GE (1919

That's "Stealthy" Pete!

 

More on Monday - Enjoy the Weekend! Thumbs Up [tup] . . .

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:56 PM

Time to drop a message in the slot for Monday morning. I had planned to post this last night but other things had to be taken care of. 

Tom – Received your mail, thank you!Thumbs Up [tup] Will mail the CDs tomorrow, Monday. Sent the ones for Pete and Doug yesterday.

Beyond the Fringe! Never heard about that one before but I certainly would love to see it! I love British humor!Big Smile [:D] Wind Talkers is another movie I want to see. A visit to the Emporium is a must this week! Very good movies!Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks for posting your Journey report again!Thumbs Up [tup] New for me! Most enjoyable and interesting! I guess your trip was even better because of the people you met on the train. Or should I say, at the station before entering the train!

A good looking cab in front of the VIA Rail Station in Halifax!!Yeah!! [yeah] I guess I could get used to live there with that Mac Store supplying me with whatever I might need! Nice pictures!Thumbs Up [tup]

Seeing your pictures from the Museum of Transportation makes me understand I have to go back there one day. So much to see. It takes time, but it is so interesting to see the real thing. How did you manage to catch “Stealthy” Pete on a picture?Wow!! [wow]

Doug –  East Troy, my friends in Baraboo, WI, told me something about that museum several years ago and at that time I decided I have to go there sometime. Next year sounds great to me. Too bad if they have to store their equipment so you can’t see it though. Maybe they will find a solution soon. Interesting website. I have bookmarked it. Thumbs Up [tup]

Nice pictures.Thumbs Up [tup] I think they should use that substation. It should hav a pretty good muffler.

A good size mailbox! Must be hooked up to Internet! Built in spam filter!!

Lars –  Good to hear from you again!!!Smile [:)] We have missed you and Ruth has missed you (a lot)! But now she is smiling, laughing and singing all the time!! Hope you can make it to the Rendezvous next year. Doug is already planning and looking around.

Thanks for the book covers!Thumbs Up [tup]  All those interesting books! I am still waitning to hit the Powerball Jackpot. One day...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]


Once upon a time...

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 11, 2007 7:27 AM

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A smile to begin the week!

The similarities between my father and me are different.

(A Yogi-ism!)

G'day Gents!

A new week for all and a work-week start for many - Monday is here once again! Hope y'all enjoyed the weekend and found the time for some RnR with those deserving your company! Yeah!! [yeah]

Time for a mugga Joe, fresh pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! C'mon, what are ya waitin' for?!?! <grin>

Here's a SPECIAL THANX to the guyz who take the time ‘n make the effort to keep Da Boss apprised of planned absences! Really appreciate the "heads up" for it helps a lot in my knowing when to "jump in" to keep the forward momentum at the bar . . . Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

We've been providing MANY, MANY Pix lately at the bar on days OTHER THAN Saturdays - and that practice is going to CHANGE once all of the Rendezvous 'n Canada Rail trip fotos get Posted. The idea is to encourage DIALOGUE AT THE BAR with Pix as SUPPLEMENTAL to the chat. So, let's keep that in mind as we plod along . . . Not to worry though, there are zillions of Rendezvous 'n Canada trip fotos left! <grin>

 

Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

 

CM3 Shane at 8:01 AM Friday - June 8th: Doom ‘n despair in the Red Bird's club house? I'm not so sure. Given the enormous salaries these characters draw, what's to be gloomy about?!?! Nah - win some, lose some and others are rained out. In baseball there's always a tomorrow - unless it's game 7 of the World Series! <grin>

I haven't been back "east"in some time so to read that Boston ‘n New York harbors ain't what they used to be is rather disturbing. Then I stop ‘n think about WHO we are trading with by sea and it hits me like a brick - China, Korea ‘n Japan are west coast shippers. Hmmmm, rocket science? I doubt it! <grin>

Really, really enjoyed that 1932 spread on the MoPac - don't know what it is about train schedules and consists, but I usually spend far more time staring into the words than necessary - just envisioning what those trains must have looked like, etc.  Well done and most appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Wonder what the situation was like back in those days once the trains crossed the southern border. I'd heard of all kinds of "things" going on, but all anecdotal. I've never traveled by train in Mexico, but have been far into the country by air ‘n sea - and not for pleasure . . . stories for the 3rd Annual Rendezvous in Chicago, perhaps. Thumbs Up [tup]

In case you are unaware, now that trolleyMAN Rob is oh-fish-ul-lee out as a "regular" - YOU are now the "holder" of the title, "Bar fly with the most continuous longevity on the stool!" Hmmmmm, perhaps that needs some reworking . . . <grin> I'll get Boris to wordsmith it a bit . . . <uh oh>

Many thanx for the quarters, round, "heads up" and your continuing association with us! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Pete at 3:51 PM Friday - June 8th: Didn't take you too long to pick up on the "larger dipper," ehQuestion [?] And here I thought it was dedication to the bar ‘n clientele . . . <grin>

My guess is that Rob will appear once he figures out that we truly do miss him ‘round the joint. He's got this notion that to participate means to do so fully - read every word, check out every detail and so forth. There have been and are others who feel the same way. That's most admirable - but it just can't be done with other constraints on one's time. So, maybe an Email from you - and others - to assure him that a visit now ‘n then would mean a lot - to all of us. Thumbs Up [tup]

I think you hit the nail on the head - as you usually do - with the comments on the port situation in Halifax. Shipping is far more active on the west coast as Canada's sea trade is also heavily focused on the Asian nations. It's a Censored [censored] shame to see the port of Halifax diminished so - especially since I can trace my recollections back to 1957 . . .

Rounds appreciated along with the visit! Enjoy the weekend and if you cannot make it in today - we KNOW you'll not forget us on Monday! That's the difference between those who truly give a Rat's Patoot and others who haven't made up their minds! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Per at 8:09 PM Friday - June 8th: A fine Post with all kinds of commentary to pour through! Thumbs Up [tup] Let me address just a few things I picked up on . . .

My error - AFLECK should be AFLEC <quack quack> from the TV commercial. And I also knew about the "dropping" of the "mighty" once Disney exited the ownership. I'm a hockey fan, fer sure, fer sure. BUT having said that - I'm totally exasperated with the NHL and the way it operates. Hockey shouldn't be in southern California, Phoenix, Florida, and places HOT. Sorry, but that's my take on it. The league is far too watered down and perhaps it's just my dinosaur-tar pit mentality showing, but I liked it far, far better when there were 6 teams in each conference - period. I recall the 6 team league of years past - Boston - Chicago - Detroit - New York - Montreal and Toronto, but figured they needed more teams. Then they expanded in 1967 with these teams: California Seals (Oakland) - LA Kings - Minnesota North Stars - Philadelphia Flyers - Pittsburgh Penguins and St. Louis Blues. Ah, the good ole daze! <grin>

That #573 at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation is in horrible condition and awaits only MONEY to get her back t

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 11, 2007 7:56 AM

G'day Gents!

Here's something just a tad different for the bar - a copy of a Post from "my other Thread" put forth by barndad Doug yesterday (Sunday) . . . . thought there'd be some interested in this fine spate of Pix as I don't believe we've seen 'em at the bar!

 

Here's my humble collection of pix for the St. Louis MOT MoPac caboose.

 

 

The history and use of the cabose is that it became widespread after the Civil War (1861-1865), with an estimated 2,500 in use by 1870. In 1900 there were 17,605 being used in the US. It was the conductor's office and the crew's home when away from their home station.

 

 

The word caboose is generally thought to come from an 18th century Dutch or French term for a small cookhouse on a ship's deck, which had a similar sound.  It is also called a way car or cabin car on some lines or certain regions. An older term was a conductor's car. In Canada it is often called a van.  In railroad slang it is called a crummy, hack or shack.

 

 

It was also the safety point at the rear of a freight train, displaying flags during the day and marker lamps at night. It allowedthe train to be observed from the rear, as crews looked for hot wheel bearings (hot boxes) or shifted loads. It lso carried tools and spare parts such as coupler knuckles and brake hoses

 

 

The cupola on the roof is  also called a lookout clerestory, observatory, monitor or dome

 

 

One of the crew was always in the  cupola while the train was moving. They would  move from side to side when the train went around curves as this was the best time to see the cars well.

 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 11, 2007 10:26 AM

G'day Gents!

MORE Pix from the 2nd Annual "Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis:

Saturday - May 19, 2007  at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO).

New York Central #113 - E Class S-2 (2-D-2). Built by ALCO-GE (1906)

 

Joplin-Pittsburgh #2003 - Propane-E. Built by Fate-Root-Heath (1936).

 

Baltimore & Ohio #50 - First non-articulated passenger diesel. Built by EMC (1935).

 

St. Louis-San Francisco (Frisco) #1621 - Decapod 2-10-0. Built by Baldwin (1926).

 

Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (Burlington Route) #9908 Silver Charger. Built by EMC (1939).

 

Union Pacific Big Boy #4006 4-8-8-4. Built by Alco (1941)

 

Big Boy #4006 <Doug's foto>

 

Doug ‘n Big Boy

 

Union Pacific tender for Big Boy #4006. Built by Alco (1941).

 

Union Pacific #90081 Rotary Snowplow. Built by UP (1966). Largest & heaviest made.

More later . . .

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Posted by marthastrainyard on Monday, June 11, 2007 10:54 AM

Good Morning everybody present!

Ruth, I will join Tom in a mugga Joe, fresh pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and a light breakfast! And why not a Tequila to rinse it all down! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom. I didn't recognize any of the movies at the theatre this week. If I find the time I'll try to drop in and watch the Windtalkers. It's a subject that interests me very much. I've seen a couple of TV programs about the code-talkers, but no the movie.

Your encore description of the old trip in Canada on board an all-Budd train was great! Thumbs Up [tup] Oh, how I wish I could have been on one of those classic trains!

I went directly from "dit" to "dit" "dit" "dit"; how's that for progress? Big Smile [:D]

Your father really experienced the war close up, didn't he? I'm glad he survived all those dangers you wrote about, what an experience! Sometimes it's good to have grown up in a "neutral" country and not having had those problems and dangers growing up. Your grand parents must have been really worried going down to the shore and looking out at the black smoke out there.

I have an attorney working on my citizenship application, but there isn't much he can do. I wrote my senator but that didn't result in anything either. With a backlog of over 9,000 applications in "name check" at the FBI, and nobody really working on them because it is not a priority, it's going to take a while. What irks me is all this talk about making it easy for the illegals to come in when there is obviously a problem tending to the applications that are already in the pipe line. Banged Head [banghead] SoapBox [soapbox]

I see the subtle difference with the dual citizenship. The U.S. does not recognize it and it is of no value here (but at least it is allowed to have it nowadays). It's the old country that may, or may not, recognize it, and it comes in handy when traveling.

I was more or less correct about Zamboni. His ice rink was in Paramount, CA, (not in Lakewood) Dunce [D)] and that's where he built his first machine. It was based on a Willy's Jeep (looked kind of funny). Traveling around the country with an ice skating daughter made me pick up a few things here and there. If I only could sort them in the correct file for later retrieval! Confused [%-)]

It is kind of strange to have hockey teams in the south, isn't it? But with the technology we have today, it is all possible and I guess NHL wants to get as much money as they can, so that's why we have the California, Texas and Florida teams. I guess the Stars couldn't be the North Stars when they moved south, could they? Question [?]

 

I'm glad you corrected me on the exhibition picture, Eric. Of course it wasn't the Baltic exhibition! That was down south in Malmo some 10 years later! Sign - Oops [#oops]

Yes, 11 months to get the citizenship would be a more normal time, but with over 9,000 applications in a backlog that isn't worked on, I see no end in sight at all. Banged Head [banghead]

What is, or where is, the Barrett Tunnels? And what did you catch on film in there? I can't make any of it out. Question [?]Question [?]

And while we are on the subject of pictures: Another mystery pic of yours; this one is from Sweden, but I have no idea where.

Good luck with the part-time chasing of whatever you decide to chase! Wink [;)]

 

It's really sad that almost all interurban lines are gone, Doug. There was a time when you apparently go travel for hundreds of miles on interubans and if you didn't mind changing trains, you could go for almost "forever", or so they say. I have only seen them in books and in museums here and there. There is one preserved car here in Plano; unfortunately resting on regular freight trucks, but the body is restored. I saw one really badly deteriorated body a little bit farther up north along the same line to Sherman.

 

Lars, yes we have met before. I was here about a year ago (or less) but then had to drop off due to too much of that 8-5 stuff. That's changing now, so I try to find some time to drop in once or twice a week to chat at the bar and show some pictures. Smile [:)]

What would we do without libraries on our trips? Question [?] They have Internet connection so we can keep up with the times, and magazines and newspapers so we can find out what's going on in the world, or state, while we are away from home. All at a very decent price: zero, zilch, nada. Can't be better, can it?

Did you see any of the Sacramento Northern (nowadays California Northern) trains while you were up there. Or, more importantly, did you have time to go to the railroad museum in Sacramento? Question [?] They have a fantastic collection of trains and memorabilia, all well worth a visit. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom has threatened to enforce the Saturday only picture posting as soon as he has posted his trip pictures, so here is my last installment, Lamy to Fullerton.

Trip report, Southwest Chief, Chicago - Fullerton.

Last time I left you in the middle of nowhere and promised to start in Lamy, NM. Well, here we are.

But before we reached Lamy we came through Las Vegas, New Mexico that is. The first time I saw that name was when driving through New Mexico over 20 years ago. It was a road sign that pointed to Las Vegas in one direction and Mora in another. It looked so strange to see a Swedish place name combined with Las Vegas like that.

The track between Las Vegas and Lamy lead us through some really step terrain and sharp curves. We were in the third car from front but could see both the engine and the last couple of cars in several curves.

No too far from Lamy we passed through this little canyon:

And then we arrived in Lamy.

When ATSF originally built the railroad they had intended

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, June 11, 2007 11:30 AM

Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffe, please; rpound for the house, and $ for the jukebox.

Just a quick stop as I am between tasks.

PRR Classs D85D diners were twin-unit cars.  They were blt. by Budd.

PRR also had separate kitchen/dornitory cars (Class D70DR), and full diners (no kitchen) Class D70CR.

Will provide more information later this week.

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 11, 2007 12:07 PM

G'day Gents!

Take a break, Ruth - I'll watch things for awhile . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I see a bit of activity this Monday (daylight) with visits from Per ‘n CM3 Shane . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Regarding the discussion involving the PRR Broadway Limited and dining cars that was initially queried by Per - I have found a few things to add to the chat:

But first to summarize with appropriate excerpts:

From Moi at 9:06 AM on June 8th - a PRR Broadway Ltd advertisement (1949).

NEW MASTER DINING CAR - Attractively furnished and decorated. Enjoy delicious food . . . meticulous service. Entire car reserved for dining.

 

From Per at 8:09 AM on June 8th

The Broadway Limited advertises that the entire diner is reserved for dining, what did it used to be? Do they mean that half of the car was a kitchen and that this train has a separate kitchen car?

 

From Moi at 7:27 AM today - June 11th

I'm hardly the aficionado when it comes to the true histories of Classic Trains and so I'll yield to others with regard to questions about the Lake Shore Limited and Broadway Limited. HOWEVER, I'd say it was the New York Central on the tracks to Chicago along the lakes - and the Broadway Limited diners were full-service diners from the get-go - with the kitchen facilities within the same car. No separate galley car that I'm aware of.

 

From CM3 Shane at 11:30 AM today - June 11th

PRR Classs D85D diners were twin-unit cars.  They were blt. by Budd.

PRR also had separate kitchen/dornitory cars (Class D70DR), and full diners (no kitchen) Class D70CR.

Will provide more information later this week.

 

Now, from Joe Welsh's Broadway Limited we find several references to dining cars. Here's one in particular for December 12, 1967:

PRR No. 4620 Dining room car <and> PRR No. 4621 Kitchen-dormitory car.
But that was far later that the 1949 ad . . . .

 

Also this margin note:

Twin-unit diners operated on the postwar Broadway Limited. Placing the kitchen and dormitory in one car allowed the creation of an elegant, full dining room in the other car. The main reason for operating a diner with two cars was to handle passenger demand more effectively; these 68-seat diners handled 20 more passengers per seating than a standard diner. John Dziobko.

 

There's much more! However, the reference to "postwar" surely would make that ad I Posted well within the parameters for 2-car diners - one a kitchen-dormitory and the other a full dining room. Soooooo, that should address the issue, eh Question [?] <phew>

Unlike the dribble 'n drivvle found elsewhere, at this bar we TRY to back up what we say and admit to mistakes - my initial guess was indeed incorrect. But it was a guess, nonetheless, eh Question [?] <grin>

 

As I indicated, I'm hardly a Classic Trains aficionado, but time permitting, do enjoy a bit of research. Shane ‘n I are alike in that the anecdotal NEVER is acceptable! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Catch y'all later . . .

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, June 11, 2007 1:47 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Hello Ruth my deAH, ‘tis the Larsman back again and this time with a powerful hunger <ummmmm> AND thirst! A Lars Special hero of ham ‘n Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH with two large pickles from the barrel if you please. I'll take a tankard of Keiths and a hug from you would be nice as well! Wow!! [wow] Oh yes, treats for the crittAHs and a small jar of pickled pig's feet for our "man" Boris! A round on me and the change is YOURS! Thumbs Up [tup]

Back online today at the library -  WHY didn't I think of this earlier, huh Question [?] Just never crossed my feeble mind is the answer! <groan> Oh, I'm NOT about to divulge any "personal" info regarding "Connie" - but the gal in this place belongs in a centerfold - Popular Mechanics comes to mind! <hee hee> "Connie" is off today . . . Not to worry, Ruth - YOU are the focal point of my dalliances! Wow!! [wow] IF I were to "dally," that is! <grin>

Really enjoying the pix from you, Cap'n Tom - the Rendezvous & Canada trip! Wow!! [wow] Looks like you're doing a "solo act" these days though . . . Anyway, keep those pix coming, they surely are attention grabbers! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Per, I enjoyed your bunch of pix as well and have made that journey aboard Amtrak some years back. Our route of preference over the years has been the California Zephyr. However, after last year, we pretty much decided that would indeed be our LAST year. We go back to the times before Amtrak on that route - when it was a REAL railroad, if you know what I mean! Anyway, some nice shots! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

I see Doug has been checking out places to go 'n things to see for the Chicago Bash! Never too early, huh?? <grin> How can you go wrong in Chicago!?!? Probably gonna be a two week Rendezvous! Wow!! [wow] <grin>

Some fine Posts along the way and I appreciate the "welcome back" commentaries! Makes the old heart feel a bit warmer . . . Nice to be wanted! Thumbs Up [tup]

Hey, Per! You surely do know how to put the words together and the pix too. If you keep this up, we'll be "dubbing" you the "new" 20-fingers at the bar! A looooooong story. <grin>

Enjoyed the elaboration on the Broadway Ltd from our Cap'n . . . figured he'd not let the details slide. It's TRUE ya know, this place is far, far different than so many others in that for the most part, the guys really try to avoid the unsupported and "think" before speaking. Thumbs Up [tup]

I've been to the California State Railroad museum so many times I think the displays know ME on sight! We have relatives in this part of the country - not Sacramento proper, but close enough. I'm kinda like a few others ‘round this saloon - love trains, they just aren't an obsession <yet>!! However, my Mrs. thinks this bar IS! <uh oh>

The Mrs. has some "things" to shop for - can you believe it?? We've only been out here for nearly a month (or so it seems) so she's decided we need to squeeze MORE into our suitcases than they were manufactured to hold. Buy another suitcase? Are you kidding - we have so many at home I should open a "stand"!! <arrrrrggggghhhh> Anyway, while she's shopping, I'm doing "my thing" at the keyboard. Love it! Thumbs Up [tup] Now if I could only find a local tavern . . .

This may be my final post ‘til we get settled back home, so let me leave you with a few more book covers and another round! Thumbs Up [tup] Boris, ring it!! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's EIGHT! Ok, bossman?? <grin>

 

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by CMSTPP on Monday, June 11, 2007 2:44 PM

G-day Captain [4:-)]Tom and all present!

Tom- So I see you have taken over for awhile.Thumbs Up [tup] Ruth looked a little tired. Good to see you. Could I get a turkey sandwich along with a coffee please. Thanks!Approve [^]

Well, Its been the week of the graduations. One right after another. I have had cousins and friends graduate all over the place. But all the food was good and the parties were fun. And a lot of happy people too. So I have not been on lately due to this. But I' back and ready for some more conversations.Thumbs Up [tup] I will work my way back starting from the most recent.

Tom- Am I glad to be back after that long absence. phew....  Neat little Nostalgia on the Pennsylvania railroad. Sounds like a really nice passenger train they had there. Someday I will ride one of the Amtrak trains and see what it's like to ride the rails at 80 MPH.Thumbs Up [tup] Of course I could go over to England and enjoy trains along there too. I would like to ride the rails at 150 MPH. Now that would be fun!Wink [;)]

And some more nice pictures from the rendezvous. I am still a little amazed about how they advertise on the locomotive even when you tell me the reason behind it. I like it. It makes for a nice billboard.Big Smile [:D] I was also impressed with the Halifax train station. The interior looks pretty nice and it's good to see it being used. Thanks for all of the great photos. Ah and some more great pics of the Aero Train. But my eye strayed to the Missouri Pacific transfer caboose. I always like seeing some of those old time transfer cabooses. There are couple still wandering around the Duluth area. I hope they stay in service for a little longer.Yeah!! [yeah]

Also, thanks for the interesting story. It's always nice to meet people unexpectantly. It's happened to me before. And I know what you mean when you get a tour group on the train. Some of the time it can get quite annoying. But I'm glad everything turned out ok. Fun trips are when the memories count.Thumbs Up [tup]

Some more nice pics from the rendezvous.Thumbs Up [tup] Now I have seen some big hotels but that is on the top of the list. Plus it gets better with the train station attached to it. Also some great shots of the grounds around the hotel.Thumbs Up [tup]

Oh... Now that is a nice looking NP caboose.Thumbs Up [tup] One the more recent built cars. An all steel car. Someone spent some time and money bringing that thing back to its original form. Glad they did too, it looks great.Wow!! [wow] And the Bipolar brings up the rear. I am still surprised how nice that electric looks. But I wonder why they took the pantograph off the locomotiveQuestion [?] Does anyone know whyQuestion [?]

I have to say, you sure know how to keep this place going.Approve [^] What a nice looking interior for that transfer caboose and I am really impressed with the restoration of that NP caboose. The interior and exterior are almost flawless.Shock [:O]

CM3- Thanks for all of the info on the Sunshine Special. There are a lot of times to look at. You better know which one you want before stepping on the train.. Some neat stuff.Thumbs Up [tup]

Per- Some ducks, I like ducks, especially when there on my plate....... Did I say that..Approve [^]

Thanks for all the neat photos on you train trip.Thumbs Up [tup] It was interesting to see the end of the train on the curve. I don't think I have seen a curve quite as tight as that one. Now I wonder why they do that? In the pic, There doesn't seem to be much for hills but I can't see the rest of the land. Also a great pic of that small canyon you passed by. When I want to Arizona we saw some things that were a little strange. You would be driving along on flat land and then "poof" there would be all of these dips and crevices in the land. It's really strange.Thumbs Up [tup]
     When I saw that AT&SF boxcar on the ground it reminded me of my trip to Arizona. When we passed through New Mexico almost all of the ranches had a box car or two sitting around. And almost all of those were AT&SF. It was a fun trip. I hope to go again. WOW! Now I am really impressed with your trip. That funny looking locomotive on the flat car is Santa Fe's version of a Gas electric. All of them carried passengers and this one is quite a treat. I didn't know there was even one still around.Wow!! [wow] I will have to see what I can do to find any more info on that. I'm glad you got a picture of it.Yeah!! [yeah]

Doug- One of your pictures caught my eye. I saw a transfer caboose in the background that resembles the Milwaukee road's version of the caboose. Do you know what railroad that car use to belong tooQuestion [?] But it looks like a neat little museum, to bad vandals have been doing there business on the cars. But if they want it to stop, keeping them stored inside would be a good idea.

Eric- You have a picture of a locomotive truck, is that under an FP45/ F45? But they are the EMD later style of truck that run under most of the SD series, excluding a few like the SD40-2. But the SD45s and FP/ F45 all ran with that style of truck under them. Now if I could only remember the name of that style of truck?   

 Also some really nice pics from the St. Louis Museum of transportation. They certainly have a lot of stuff in your first photo. Plus I can see a Business car hiding behind an Alco. But by the looks of the business car with the one window boarded up, I'm thinking its going to need some work. But one item in that picture doesn'

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Posted by CMSTPP on Monday, June 11, 2007 3:01 PM

G-day Captain [4:-)] Tom and all present!

Thanks, Tom, But I'm good for now. But get a round for the guys.

Okay I admit it, I almost forgot about our manager who puts in his fine share of posts to keep this place rolling. I always enjoy coming in and seeing all the book covers he has provided for all to see. Some of the books look really good and others I have never even heard of. But thanks for sharing them.

Just a small piece on the Santa Fe's M190 "Doodle Bug" Gas electric!

Doodlebug 1.jpg

Picture from: http://www.pbase.com/intermodal/image/75899624 Picture by:Brian Kreimendahl.

Doodlebug 2.jpg

Picture from: http://www.pbase.com/intermodal/m190_doodlebug Picture by:Brian Kreimendahl

I was actually quite surprised to learn that this doesn't have any compartments for passengers. To me it looks like a mail car.

I couldn't seem to find much info on this locomotive so maybe someone knows more about?

Happy railroadingLaugh [(-D]

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 11, 2007 4:30 PM

G'day Gents!

Continuing on with Pix from Day Three: Saturday - May 26th, 2007 - Halifax, Nova Scotia

A place to pick up snacks!

 

When in Canada, I ALWAYS grab a cuppa Joe at Tim's! <grin>

 

CN heavyweight coach at Pier 21

 

Halifax's Pier 21

 

Fergie ‘n Pete

 

Fergie ‘n Tom

 

To be continued . . .

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, June 11, 2007 6:33 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Holden's Mild please RUTH. I see you are looking a lot happier since we have heard from LARS.Yeah!! [yeah]

PER I think ‘grits' must be an acquired taste. I have tried them once and I'm afraid that is all I want too. Thumbs Down [tdn] One of my British friends was in New Orleans for a time and he could not get on with them ether. The bride quite likes them though.

That sounds a good place to have the train club with a bar near by. In Rugby,England I used to go to the monthly ‘Steam Club', which was held in the upstairs room of a bar. It was mainly slides of steam locos and I quite miss it sometimes, we used to get some well-known names in British Railway photography. With some having colour slides of BR steam from the 1950 and 60s.

I don't know if there are any British bus makers left now perhaps DL can let me know if there are any now.Question [?]

ERIC Thanks for the info on the painted coupling rods on American steam locomotivesThumbs Up [tup]. I was quite pleased the rods on 60010 in Delson museum were not paintedApprove [^], they were had a heavy coat of grease to stop the rust.

Reading about the Alco Hi-Ad trucks reminded me about them saying why the British pacifics were prone to slipping on starting, with a heavy train, was due to weight transfer from the driving wheels to the trailing truck. I wonder if the American railroads had a method of preventing this with their steam locomotives.Question [?] Of course the American locomotives were a lot heavyer than the British ones.

Many thanks for the photos.Thumbs Up [tup]I see one of the VIA locomotives #6425 was one of the actual locos Tom and I had to Halifax.

I guess the photo with the rails in the undergrowth were taken in SwedenQuestion [?]

DOUG Many thanks for the photos, info and the link to the East Troy Electric RailroadApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. They look to have some great equipment and a good photo gallery on their siteYeah!! [yeah]. It is such a pity they suffer from vandalism,Sad [:(] it seems a worldwide problem nowadaysDisapprove [V]Thumbs Down [tdn]. I see they run ‘Brew Trains', although I don't know why I would I notice this in the link.Whistling [:-^] Having some real ale served aboard a vintage car sounds a great idea to me.Approve [^]

Loved the mailbox.Smile [:)]

LARS Great to see you in the bar again.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] As you say we are ticking along but we sure have missed you.Yeah!! [yeah]

The Bride and I are most probably heading out to California later in the year and we hope to stop at Sacramento as I have heard there is a large railroad museum there.

Yes we were very lucky with the weather both at the Rendezvous and in for the most part in Canada and both were indeed a wonderful timeApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. We did raise our glasses to you at the Train Wreck during the Rendezvous.Yeah!! [yeah]

Great to see the book covers again.Thumbs Up [tup]

HOORAY for Connie.Bow [bow]

TOM The ‘Windtalkers' is another film I would like to see, and it seems that the ‘Beyond the Fringe' recording was lucky to survive. I believe that ‘Fringe' was the forerunner on another satire TV show called ‘ That was the week that was' (or TW3 as it was known as) I wonder if you have heard of that showQuestion [?]. I have seen clips of that show. And, of course the Stooges.

Very much enjoyed the Canadian Rail Journey part II encoreThumbs Up [tup], great meeting a group from St Louis on the Ocean, so far away from the city. I went back and read parts III and IV from the old thread, great reading and enjoyed the photos too.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] Two Budd trains in Halifax Wow!! [wow]when now it is all RenaissanceSigh [sigh]. Noticed while looking back at the posts there was one where NICK was teaching BORIS English.Smile [:)]

Many thanks for the photos from St Louis, and the ones Doug posted on the other threadThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. It just looks like Doug is about to take Big Boy # 4006 off shed and on to Cheyenne.Yeah!! [yeah]

 I see in the link you have to be a ‘Legal Alien, for 5 years before one can become a U.S. Citizen so a bit of a while for me then.

It think we have talked about it before but that certainly is a sobering thought seeing the smoke of a torpedoed ship on the horizon and not knowing if a loved one was safe or not.

Well TOM I am having a real problem with the puter todayBanged Head<div style=

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Posted by marthastrainyard on Monday, June 11, 2007 8:24 PM

Good Evening everybody present!

Leon, please a pint of your best dark ale and a round for everyone present!

 

Tom. Thank you for all the work on the dining/kitchen cars. It was a very interesting reading! Imagine that they had separate kitchen cars. It can not have been easy on the waiters, having to walk between cars with a fully loaded tray in hand. But I guess the track was better in those days than what it is now.

When James wrote his comment about tour groups on trains, I came to think about the one time I was part of a tour group on Amtrak. A wine society I used to belong to had been up in Napa Valley and we were taking the Amtrak back to Los Angeles. The conductor had tried very hard to keep one car open for us and he finally got all the other passengers out of that car when he told them that there will be a few people coming on board in Martinez. He wasn’t sure if “they came from the prison, or not” but he just wanted to let the passengers know. Apparently there was a rush to get out of that car before the train stopped in Martinez!

 

Lars, oh yes I know what you mean about a real railroad. I just wish I had taken the opportunity to ride the City Of San Francisco back in 1967 when I had the chance, but I wasn’t sure if I would have enough money, so I took the bus instead from San Francisco to New York. As it turned out, there had been enough money.

You just HAVE to give me a hint about that “20-fingers” at the bar thing!

You only need to buy one more suitcase. It’s the “Mary Poppins” type case. It may be a bit hard to find, though, but once you get it, that’s the only suitcase you will ever need ;-)

 

James, I’m not really sure about why those sharp curves were there either. It may just be that the grade would have been too steep but it didn’t feel like it. I came through this lava field in Arizona. One of the Interstates goes right through it. It is one of the weirdest things I have seen. All of a sudden there is all this lava on both sides of the road instead of the flat landscape that was just before and again, right after. But it is a large field, so there must have been one heck of an volcano there at one time, or maybe all of it just seeped out of the ground.

I can’t believe you found another set of pictures of the same Doodlebug. That guy must have been there about the same time I passed by. The units are on the same flat cars parked on the same track! Imagine that the bug had come back to Albuquerque! I remember reading in the Trains magazine many years ago when ATSF emptied their roundhouse in Albuquerque and sent a lot of equipment out around the country. Now part of it is coming back, how about that?

Here are a couple of more pictures I took as we rode past:

 

This was not a passenger trailing unit, more like a mail or baggage unit.

I like duck too. It’s just too bad it cooks down to almost nothing when all the fat drips away. But what’s left, is really tasty!

 

I’ve always thought of grits the way you look at it, Peter, and that’s why I haven’t tried it. I was forced into trying Vegemite once while “down under” and that’s also one of those acquired tastes, so once was enough for me.

It’s not really a bar at the train club, just a coffee house with beer and wine. But they have a decent selection of beer so I’m OK with it. I have seen signs for a new place in the same building, though, so who knows, maybe one of these days I’ll pay them a visit.

 

That’s it for today and maybe for a longer time. I am off to Madrid on Saturday and to California after that. If there is time later this week, I pop in again, otherwise I see y’all towards the end of the month.

 

Take care

Per in Plano Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:49 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, coffee and a cheese Danish! That's all, thank you!

A lot of activities here this Monday! Getting busy again!

Tom –  I am sorry to say I forgot to bring your CDs to work today, so I could not mail them as planned.Grumpy [|(] Now they are in my briefcase and will be mailed tomorrow, Tuesday!

You mentioned the bus you bought for your S-scale layout. I have checked that catalog I talked about, but they do not have anything for the S-scale.Sigh [sigh] I will check further.

846 miles, just right for a train ride!! Thanks for the info!Thumbs Up [tup]

I was told that dual citizenship was not allowed, which I did not consider being a problem since I think that it is wrong having two citizenships. At that time the old country did not allow dual citizenship either, but they changed that 6-7 years ago. And that was for the most stupid reason. I’ll tell you another day.

I certainly hope West Coast Dave is safely at home now. Maybe I should show some SP pictures?Smile [:)]

You are right about Cindy working Saturdays, but I guess you never saw Ruth, did you?Mischief [:-,] I guess she was there beacuse Manager Lars had been there and she was too happy to remember to go home again!! She just forgot she wasn’t on duty!Confused [%-)]

About the photo from Sunday, it is from the old country. I will have more info on it in a few days. I took it back in 1968, 39 years ago.

Thanks for “borrowing” Doug’s pictures from your other thread!Thumbs Up [tup]

Looking at your pictures from the Museum of Transportation I have to repeat myself, I need to go back one day. I missed a lot of things. Like the New York Central #113, Joplin-Pittsburgh #2003 and Baltimore & Ohio #50. Thanks for the nice pictures!!Thumbs Up [tup]

I see that you also have info on those PRR diners!Thumbs Up [tup]

More pictures from Halifax!Thumbs Up [tup] I memorized that name, Tim Horton’s for future use! Is Tim’s nationwide or a more local chain?Question [?]

Per –  How could you forget the Arizona hockey team, the Coyotes?Wink [;)]

Info about the Barrets Tunnels on this picture.

 

Inside the tunnel you can see a steam locomotive, less the boiler and cab, sitting on a flat car. The arrows are pointing at the rails on the flat car and the third arrow is pointing at a wheel.



The picture I posted is from Linköping, Sweden. I took it 1968 and it shows the remains of  the narrow gauge MÖJ. I will come back to this later this week.

Thanks for the rest of your report from your almost cross country trip!!Thumbs Up [tup] Very enjoyable and nice pictures. Most interesting picture are the ones of that Santa Fe diesel on the flat car!

CM3 –  Thanks for the info on those diners, etc.Thumbs Up [tup] That made me curious and I will do some research myself. Looking forward to more info from you though!Smile [:)] I saw that Tom found something too.

Lars –  Why don’t you take a picture of that gal, Connie? I always like to see pictures of centerfold gals! Ruth is kind of concerned though.Mischief [:-,]

More nice book covers!Thumbs Up [tup] The last one, Southern Pacific Historic Diesels, made it on my list over books to look for!

James –  That truck is under a FP45. As far as I know that truck is called FB 3.

St. Louis Museum of Transportation has a lot of stuff to check out! It will take more than one day to see it all. Smile [:)]

What’s in the tunnel is shown above. “Half” a steam engine on a flat car! What is behind it I don't know.

The Santa Fe M190 is something different! I tried to find more info tonight but was succesful. I’ll check my books to see what I can find. Thanks for the pictures.Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete –  You don’t know if there are any British bus makers left? How about Leyland? They must still be around. Question [?]

You are right!!Yeah!! [yeah] That photo was taken in Sweden 39 years ago in the city of Linköping (I used to live there in the early 70’s). I will come back later this week to that narrow gauge railroad that was once upon a time.

If you are married to an American citizen you can become a citizen after three years! Or, at least, apply for citizenship after three years.Wink [;)]

 

 

Eric

 

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