G'day Gents!
Now Arriving on Track Number Two
Electric Trains at Christmastime
#1 - Lionel & American Flyer Catalogs
1948 Lionel Catalog
1951 Lionel Catalog
1952 Lionel Catalog
1948 A.C. Gilbert Catalog
1949 American Flyer Catalog
1950 American Flyer Catalog
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Enjoy!
Tom
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Ruth my deAH, a mugga Joe with a jolt to start the day ‘n some goodies from the pastry case! That should hold me ‘til later on when we dine in the Suite <ooooooooops> - I mean when we share a bag lunch.
Boris it's feedin' time for the crittAHs, so let's get a move on . . . and of course that small jar of PPF is for you when done! Don't forget to take Artie out back for his field mouse! <ugh>
A round of cheer for the gang - I see we've got some holiday egg nog in the ‘fridge - so let's put some Navy Rum in it ‘n spread the cheer! Change is for you my deAH!
Sorry Bossman that this post is a bit on the early side, but I've gotta get a move one. The Mrs. has a round of doc's appointments 'n Lord knows I bettAH be READY when she is. <grimmace> <grin> The Sgt. Mrs. doesn't like to be kept waiting . . . <no, no, no>
I see Cap'n Tom has begun the Christmas season with electric trains for our optional toy & model trains gala on Wednesday. Great idea - but stole my thundAH! Yeah, I had a bunch of ‘stuff' prepared - so if any are duplicates - so be it. <Got that Pete!?!?!>
Great to learn that Eric is back with us, if not permanently at least we know he's up ‘n about the decks. Had a shipmate with gall stones evacuated to a Coast Guard cuttAH who had a doc on board way back when. The guy was screaming in agony, so I "feel your pain." Not really - but you've got my understanding ‘n hope that you'll get this chapter of your life behind you in short ordAH! Have a nog on me, mate!
A fine offering from Fergie out on the briny deep . . . pretty interesting background on your RR, the MESS. Enjoyed reading it - thanks! Have a nog on me, mate!
Rob has been in with a couple of more offerings - which helps a bunch at this sometimes quiet, sometimes not Watering Hole by the Wayside. All the talk of belly buttons - errrrrrrrrr, ‘scuse me - I mean NAVAL things makes me wondAH how come YOU didn't go into the Canadian Navy Seems you've got a bettAH than average understanding ‘n appreciation for things military. Just wonderin' . . . I've begun the paperwork to get you enrolled in Molly's school for wayward young men! <grin>
Ok - on to my Wednesday submission for Toy & Model Trains Day! ‘tis the season to be jolly - so here it comes!
American Flyer Catalogs
1938
1939
1940
1941
1944
Until the next time!
Lars
Salutations Tom and fellow brethren....
Just thought that I stop by in between my to buy you chaps a few rounds....
Barkeep....may I please have a large Gin & Tonic....would you mind to top up the chaps as well with whatever they're having.....the usual cigars to go as well, thanks...keep the change.
Been more or less sleepwalking the last couple of day, most likely to be doing that for a few more, did a 10 hour shift Monday to Tuesday and a 12 hour one to today.... 167 and 180 tonnes resp. of booze, beers etc. going out.... Unfortunately I don't see "our" place on our list of deliveries, maybe something that we can work out.... :lol:
Just thought that I'd show my face.... and to top up the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer. $$$$
Great posts and pics lads!
Paus for thought....
"The first call to breakfast was under way before 15 nosed out of Snowqualmie Tunnel and dropped down the forrested mountains to Seattle, the oily smell of the train boiler and galley stoves blocking out the aroma of pine lining the mist-filled canyons."
"Until 1927 the Olympian's observation was elegant in dark mahogany. Fans kept you cool in the summer and steam heat in open coils below the rear window toasted the car in the sub-zero winters. When the sleet and snow blew off the Bitter Roots and piled the platform high with snow, the window was a mass of condensation but steamy comfort prevailed inside.
Or, picture if you might, a muggy night in western North Dakota. The silvery ribbons of rail flash briefly into view, lit by the glow of the blood-red drumhead. A constant swirl of dust wraps itself around the edges of the car, the markers are nearly lost in hte haze.
Up ahead a moan from a deep throated Hudson splits the night air, the call for Buffalo Springs. A blurb of light to the left, a fleeting glimpse of the agent, lantern in hand, darting for the flying mail sack, sliding to rest in the dry earth. Then again, only the clack of the wheel, the swirl of the dust as the Olympian roars on with its morning date with lightnings of Zeus."
"Usually the train paused at Haugan on flag during the second call to dinner. Sun glinted across white table tops, reflected onto ivory walls and green carpets. Shaded deck lamps glowed in dark corners. Silently scenery began to slip by the wide windows. You could feel the upgrade. For 14 miles the train turned, twisted and squealed around horseshoe curves, constantly sailing out over spindly trestles on the way over St. Paul Pass. Any wonder third call to dinner was late the second day out!"
From: Steam, Steel & Limiteds.
Good afternoon Ruth , yes tis I the world champion mudwrestler Ms. Throttlebottom gave me a pass because I survived two rounds with Hilda in the jello tank ( though I played dead for much of the second round , she does less damage that way ) Mind you she said that she will give me a passing grade , so long as I wear the cap today while I drink my beer. Speaking of which I think I need a couple Keith's to get teh taste of teh jello pit out of my mouth , the memories of it.... well I hope the Mentor villiage mental hospital has a few appointments open.
Tom-great to chat with you as always, hopefully your "puppy" didn't take you down to many dark alley's. I enjoyed the re-rolls of the old toy train cat's.Not to worry on the up comming saturday's I will unveil some of those photo's for the wider group.
Lars-I'm to big and stupid and I don't swim well, so I choose to support the navy from the shore. It was something I did flirt with when I finished High-school , but at that time our navy was undergoing a major down-sizing ( not that it could get much smaller ) To old to survive "basic" now , so I'll be a loving supporter and Jr navy historian.I see that you added a couple of catalouges of your own from the larsmobile, much enjoyed sir
Jan-An interesting poem ? or music lyric ? If the later somehow I could see the Python boys doing it up right.
Eric-Glad to hear that you are still with us.If you would like we can have the Keith's set up in a bedside drip for you.I think I would lay off the rump steak,espeacially if Boris was the creator of it.
Rob
Okay Ruth I think another Keith's is required this hat Ms Molly has me wearing is hurting "me head." I know these have been posted before but here's a few old layout photo's for one 'n' all seeing as how today is the optional hobby day
enjoy Rob
Always a good day at the bar when we get the quality from Postings such as those from Lars 'n Jan 'n Rob! The nog is on the house - ring it Boris!
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #30
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 148, Oct 27th, 2005 on the Original Thread>
Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway (C&O)
Chesapeake & Ohio (C&O)
Headquarters: Richmond, VA
Mileage in 1950:
5,343 (including ferries)
Locomotives in 1963:
Steam: 3 (fireless "cookers")
Diesel: 1,053
Rolling stock in 1963:
Freight cars: 92,992
Principal routes in 1950:
Chicago-Cincinnati, OH-Ashland, KY-Staunton, VA-Newport News, VA
Gordonsville, VA-Washington, DC
Clifton Forge-Richmond VA
Ashland-Louisville, KY
Limeville (Ashland)-Columbus, OH-Toledo, OH
Columbus-Pomeroy, OH
Catlettsburg (Ashland)-Elkhorn City, KY
Ronceverte-Durbin & Bartow, WV
Chicago-Grand Rapids, MI-Detroit, MI-St. Thomas, ON-Buffalo & Niagra Falls, NY
Grand Rapids-Petoskey & Bay View, MI
Erieau, ON-Ludington, MI
Ludington-Milwaukee & Manitowoc & Kewaunee, WI (ferry routes to each from Ludington)
Toledo-Bay City, MI
Port Huron-Bay City-Elmdale, MI
Passenger trains of note:
George Washington (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)
F.F.V. (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)
Sportsman (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Detroit)
Pere Marquettes (Detroit-Grand Rapids; Chicago-Grand Rapids & Muskegon; Detroit-Saginaw, MI)
Resort Special (Chicago-Petoskey; later, Washington-White Sulphur Springs, WV)
Some drumheads of the C&O:
Afternoon again. Okay Ruth I'll partake in one of those "nogs"Maybe some extra octane in it as well to dispell the cold round my parts -10C and dropping
Tom-loved the C&O ifno and the drumheads. I'm guessing that will warm the cockles of Shanes heart , likely won't disappoint the manager either.
A couple classic ads to brighten up the afternoon a bit.
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; cofee, please (to go - again), round for the house and $ for the jukebox. First snow of the season today - sure was interesting this a.m. Anyway, just another quick stop and then tomorrow I will try and unpile some of the posts that I need to look at. Apppreciate everybody's patience.
work safe
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH on this rather chilly day.
ROB Glad you liked the photos from ExpoRail. Have you heard anything about the museum being extended.
Yes there were a few ships in Halifax Harbour, as you can see we had some fine weather. Do you visit the Citadel while you were in Halifax.
Many thanks for the Classic steam #39 on the Canadian Northern. A new line that tried to compete with two other lines for the same traffic. It must have been a great deal of money for a line that only lasted 2 decades.
Two rounds with Hilda I'm impressed.
That is a great model layout, like the bridge in the last photo, and thanks for the classic Canadian National ads.
ERIC Hope the Doc today can give you some medicine that will do the trick, it will be great to have you back at full speed at the bar.
Was your photo taken at Chicago.
LARS Hmmmmm.Now you see it, now you don't, with the book cover.
Looks like Rob is joining BORIS and I at Molly Throttlebottoms yes we are being kept back another year.
The more model railroad catalogs the better as far as I am concerned and a good selection today. That is a great photo on the 1940 Gilbert one. I have a comment about the American Flyer one in Toms reply.
The Roar of the Rails looks a good magazine; I wonder how often it came out. I bet there werea lot of youngsters got a love of the railroads and a love of reading from such magazines. I remember a comic called the Wizard from England, although it was called a comic it was mainly stories and there used to be railway stories in it, I wonder if ALLAN remembers it. Anyway I sometimes wonder what the kids of today learn from those video games.
Dinner in the suite, I'm lucky to get a moldy sarnie in BORIS's shed.
JAN that is a lot of booze and beer it certainly should be a good Hogmany this year.
Many thanks for the great description of travel on the Olympian. I can see why you like that book.
TOM After the Keith's and the Clancy's I had forgotten about the details of our schedule sorry.
That was a bit of good fortune to meet the gentleman on the Ocean and be able to share some great times together. I think there is a natural bond between people who have served in the military and amongst sailors, which those of us who have not served cannot know. After my father retired, a friend from a couple of houses away would come round and have a talk most days, when they ran out of conversation it would turn to Royal Marines (which dad's friend was in) versus Royal Navy. But always out of mutual respect.
That is very detail link you provided for me. Did you notice the link in it to the Merchant Seaman of WWII, I will return to the link again, thanks for finding it for me.
Yes # 4563 does look a bit narrow in that photo, still the camera, or the operator, was playing up that day. I have had another go at putting your photos on a disc and was successful this time; of course after I had done it I had to check them in Slideshow. They really are great photos when viewed on the full screen, a great memento of a great trip. I can see myself ‘borrowing' a few for the bar if I may like this one.
A drivers eye view from the cab of A4 No 60010 at ExpoRail, although I doubt if the driver on the East Coast Main Line saw trolleys like the ones on the left.
Great catalogs to start the new Electric Trains at Christmas Time th
Good evening Leon another Keith's this evening if you will sir.
Pete-To answer your question, no I haven't heard of them expanding the museum more , I don't know which way they would go , I suppose though that there is still quite a bit of real estate for them to expand into. A fine shot from the cab as well. We did indeed go to teh Citadel , it is worth the visit. We also went to the Marine Museum of The Atlantic and the Admiralty House Museum. We took a walk in Point Pleasant Park and found a couple of teh old fortifications that are hidden in there that were built to defend Halifax harbour. Oddley enough the one Fort Ogilvie was of interest as it's my wifes maiden name ( minus the fort bit )When we were out in Cape Breton we did the Louisberg Fortress tour as well , also a well worth the visit location ( set a day aside for it though it's that big ! )You did have some good weather by the looks of the shots and the other pictures of Tom's that I have looked at. Here's a couple from our brief tour de Halifax.
The marine survey vessel Acadia , Lone survivor of the 1917 Halifax explosion,now part of teh Marine Museum's collection.
The dome at the end of our train. Taken at Halifax station.
Unfortunatly this was as close to the Dome as we got on our trip on the Ocean. To make a long story short. We booked months ahead for our trip. We took the train all the way from Brantford to Montreal, where we boarded the Ocean for Halifax. I didn't book the tickets through the central VIA website or call centre. The one day when we were at teh Brantford train station visiting the hobby shop that is attached , we stopped in to the ticket desk to get an updated scheduale and ask about the trip. The agent was helpful and said that he could book us right through then and there so we did. Being the "Scot " that I am we discussed the various fare class options, and since we are young ( and stupid apparently )we booked the cheapest seats we could comfort class. we figured that we are young so we could deal with one night in coach as opposed to a comfort sleeper or easterly clas sleeper ticket. We did ask the agent several times that, if we took the coach seating would we have access to the dinning car(s) and the dome. we were told that yes we would be, but that we would have to pay for teh food in the dinning car ( apparently the sleeper classes the food prices are included ).
Fast forward to train day , the first leg to toronto went well, we statyed on that train as it turned into the Toronto to Montreal train we were riding on . A minor delay near Kingston put us in Montreal long enough to pee then line up upstairs to go right back down and board the Ocean. Since we left the friday before the Augest long weekend the train was overbooked so they had to add a second service car and extra sleeper and this delayed departure about half an hour , not to bad , we grabbed a coffee settled into our coffin like coach seats on the "rennaisance death coaches" and questioned our sanity when the kids satrted running up and down the asiles. When we asked the car manager how the dinning car service worked once we were underway,she told us that we didn't get there usasge since we were coach and that the "cart" would be along shortly or we could go back to the service car and get a hotdog or soup and watch teh Mr Bean movie that was currently being played, same response for the Dome, apparently we were second class coach and the dome was off limits to us.
Suffice to say, we tried to see if we could pay up to a bedroom ( which apparently can be done even after you are on the train ) but they were full and over booked to the point that a couple of teh sleeper class people were bumped upto the remaining easterly class accomadations due to the over booking.Sleeping in a renasance coach well lets just say does not reeally happen,I'm sure that the Marquis de Saud designed those seats ( even sitting upright in them was less than comfortable ) no leg room no padding etc etc.
We did manage to lose consciousness for a while because at seven in the morning teh train pulled into Matepedia and added an extra coach to pick up the waiting fares at stations up the line. At some point in the night , we had a four hour delay as a freight train broke down infront of us on the single track, and Moncton had to send rescue engines down for us. That and our second engine broke down and was swapped out at Sackville another 45 minute delay for that.We made time up after that but our 4:30pm Halifax arival time ended up being a 7:45 arrival time. They did give us free Pizza on the train and 50% off the next train ride for everyone aboard due to the lateness, but it did put a downer on our plans. I had arranged for a rental car to be ready and waiting for us at the Hertz in the Halifax station. Unfortunatly they close at 5:30 so we missed our cary almost two hours. It was there in the lot, but no personel to unlock the gate and set us up with the keys.Lisa the good train mamager that took over for the She Nazi I originally delt with felt so bad that she got Karl the station agent to try and help us out. He called around the other Hertz at the airport and several other rental places for us, unfortunatly the friday before teh long weekend no cars were available.he did get a hold of teh station hertz guy and had him hold onto teh car until teh morning for us and they paid our cab fare to our hotel in Dartmouth and the return back in teh morning the next day to get our car.This put our ferry trip to the Rock behind scheduale as we were supposed to leave on the 1pm, but we didn't get our car till 9am sat morning instead of the night before.It worked out though I was able to call the ferry company and change our leaving and return booking to and from Newfoundland so we ended up doing teh Halifax half of our trip first. All in all it did work out in the end, but one heck of a snafu to start it all up.
In closing I enjoyed most of the Ocean, If I ever do it again I will go with a bedroom to avoid the unpleasantness we did incur. You can't do anything about line problems that delay things, but I felt that alot of the other stuff needn't have happened.I would go again, I don't think Heather would though. time will tell.
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, I’ll have a ham sandwich tonight! No, no, coffee, please!Kind of rough day today, but I am satisfied after getting some good advice and help from our family doctor. Smart guy! Tom – You are right, nothing works like a cold Keith’s on a digestive system that is in distress! That will keep things moving! The aerial shot? I am sure you know exactly where it was taken! Even Pete seems to know! Making up for abscences once I retire? That is only 15 days away!!!! Very nice Lionel catalog covers! Those were the days!C&O, a very classic railroad in my mind! Some nice drumheads!Lars – Gall stones are no fun at all. I got a new, better surgeon today so I am looking forward to get things straightened out as soon as possible. My regular doctor helped me. Thanks for the nog! My favorite beverage this time of the year! Very nice catalog covers! Almost all of them from WW II.
Hope everything went well for your Mrs today.
JanOlov – Nice reading! Rob – I am still around! Keith’s set up in a bedside drip? That sounds like a great idea! No, I would never let Boris make my Rumpsteak! No way! I remember those layout pictures! Very nice shots! Would be interesting to read that Grand Trunk & Grand National timetable book (?) from 1941!Interesting trip report! A lot of trouble, including the Hertz screw up. How long ago did you take that trip? CM3 – Looking foward to see you soon!Pete – The doc I was going to see today was not of any help at all. I’ve got me a another one (surgeon) that I will see next week instead. Yes, I took my photo from Sears Tower in Chicago. Can you see what track the X2000 is sitting on?Very nice model pictures! Plus the expoRail one!
Round on the house!
Eric
Greetings Tom and gentlemen....
Just thought that I'd stop by to top up the cigar box, Mr Wurlitzer and have a quick look at what has been posted before I hit the sack....
Could I have something that'll give me a good sleep please....give the lads the usual top up with cigars as well, when they show up, thanks....keep the change!
$$$$ for cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
Great posts and pics as always troops!
<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>
A MOST strange occurrence on this Thursday - I Posted the AM summary - I saw it Posted - and now it's GONE-ZO as in NOT THERE! I've had ‘em disappear between the time I pressed the "button" ‘n when it should Post - but never like this. I mean it was Posted - I read it on-line. Then when I came back an hour or so later - GONE-ZO! <geesh>
So, this one will be a very reduced summary of what I had put together . . .
As always, on this DAY BEFORE FRIDAY - join us for a refill on that mug of Joe, sample a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery while you're waiting for your <light> or <traditional> breakfast order!
Comments from the Proprietor:
Tomorrow is "The day that will live in infamy." <FDR> We refer to it as Pearl Harbor Day - Dec 7th . . . lest we forget.
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Wednesday - Dec 5th
Lars (LoveDomes) at 8:52 AM: Many thanx for the great AF covers ‘n round!
Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:28 AM ‘n 11:35 AM: Yes, I too enjoyed our chat - was a long one, fer sure, fer sure!
Pete (pwolfe) at 5:10 PM: Another Wolfman Special - very fine inclusive, informative ‘n interesting Post! Thanx for the round too . . .
Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:13 PM: Back again with a "trip" report ‘n two fine fotos from your Atlantic Canada trip this past summer.
As discussed a couple of time by fone - best I can say is "Now you know." Experience counts for something, eh
Eric (EricX2000) at 11:33 PM: Continuing better news from our Resident Desert Swede - hope things get squared away for you PDQ.
Enjoyed your inclusive Post ‘n remembered that the "mystery foto" was taken in Chicago. Yeah - the X2000 is "right over there . . . ."
Thursday - Dec 6th:
Jan (JanOlov) at 12:15 AM: Support for the bar ‘n generosit
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Nice day here today (approx 11 deg. F this a.m., snow on the ground and on the trees and some sunshine as well).
Today is Miner's Day. A century ago 362 miners perished in an explosion at Monongah, WV. The most ever in a mine disaster in U.S. history - a toast to absent friends.
I have a mound of material that I have read through and lots of folks had questions. If I let anybody out, I apologize.
Fergie provided on deck naraatives and company history. Thank you.
Lars provided mannny book covers. A lot of the C&O items reside on the shelves in the east wing. The book cover for passenger cars shows a picture of the Hot Springs mixed, IIRC. Also, very nice steam pictures as well. The MKT, TRRA and SLSF items are goo ones, too. The IT has more than a few devoted fans. Some of their power wandered rather far afield as I remember seeing some in Bluefield one time. I also enjoyed the catalog cover for Challengers of the High Iron - they just don't write copy like that anymore. We have been lucky enough to see several Giants games down here - loved last Sunday's contest. Many folks were surprised by Pitt's defeat of WV. As I told my son, "That's why they play!"
Pete - In the Traces is Still in Print. Good luck finding it through a title search on Amazon. Type in Ted Rose and you will find it. IMHO, it's one of the best I have ever seen.
You had some questions re some of the C&O book covers that Lars sent along. Here goes.
First one is of a C&O H-8. This was a 2-6-6-6 built by Lima; a magnificent machine that never was used correctly by the railroad. The Virginian (always interested in having what their neighbor to the north had), rostered some as well.
The PM book has a BL2 on the cover
The third one shows an E8
Last, the picture of C&O 7460 is, IIRC, a photograph.
Also, thanks for sharing Alan's steam pictures.
Rob - I recall the Cartier and R&S low hoods, but it don't mean we have to like ‘em. (lol)
Your comments on the CV were thoughtful. Folks who were there at the time said that maybe there was some testing, but they also put whatever was available at the time on a train and sent it south. IOW, it was worth being beside the tracks as you never knew what was going to come along next. Glad you confirmed my memory of what went on.
Enjoyed the rerun of the ONR and work equipment material.
Canadian Northern summary was appreciated.
1941 CN tt? I found one in the box in the archives - thanks for holding the light, Boris.
BTW, we all have stories of unintended consequences of trying to save money on travel.
Jan sent along observation car pictures, and some nice narrow gauge items. I never contracted a raging case of narrow gauge fever, but they are of interest because of all the mining activity. Also enjoyed the pictures of C&O and N&W steam and the other western pictures you sent. Yes, Frostbite, I have been to Rawlins, WY.
DD1 sent some interesting material. The New Haven's FL9s are, of course, the best known diesel/third rail locomotives. Ideally the diesel was shut down and the electric took over from there. Sometimes it was a little different in practice and Grand Central could get pretty nasty at times, even though they were not supposed to run the diesels there. Metro North got many of the FL9s and I recall photographing them both on the Hudson and Harlem Lines. Amtrak got a few after that and they were r/b by MK.
Eric - Hope you are doing better,
OSP has been keeping us going. Good movies, chief. Also enjoyed the Budd ad.
"Broadway Cruising Through Metuchen?" I was there! The Broadway ran along there at a pretty good clip, but the "Congressional" was the one that I remember as really hauling it. Incidentally, for those of have not read it, Welsh's book on the Broadway (shown in OSPs post is well worth the money). Thanks also for the CP grafix classix and the AF and Lionel catalogs. Last I appreciated the C&O material (of course)
Will mail book on Saturday.
Herewith a rerun of the catalogs post I did a long time ago.
The catalogs come in November, just as they have for years. The catalogs are books that deserve serious study. The catalogs mean that Christmas is coming. The Lionel catalog is the one that gets the most attention. Its glossy pages contain enough railroad-related material to satisfy Commodore Vanderbilt and all of his vest-wearing, watch chained, cigar-smoking lackeys. Look, here's a Pennsylvania Railroad steam turbine. On the next page is a Tuscan red GG1 electric with a set of Pennsy passenger cars. My father tells me that they look just like the ones he rides to Washington. I want to go to Washington, too, and see the "Congressional Limited" as it passes along the tidal basin by the cherry blossoms - at least it does in the catalog. Here's a GP7 in red, black, and silver from the Burlington Route set against a generic picture of the heartland. Turn the page and there's some EMD switchers decorated for the Seaboard Air Line and for the Central Railroad of New Jersey. My, what we could do with a set of those. Then there are lovely F units in Santa Fe red and silver war bonnet paint and on the next page a pair of Fs for the New York Central. You can get freight or passenger sets with these. Right after that is a monstrous FM Trainmaster lettered for the fearsome, far away, Virginian. Toward the back of the book is page after page of freight cars of all types. Then there are pages of passenger cars. The very back has track, accessories, and transformers big enough to power a small city. It's pretty simple: we want it all. And why not? Christmas is, after all, a time of renewed hope and possibility.
Work safe
P.S. Will be back at it tomorrw and also next Monday, but I am going to try and do better at visiting - it's been wild the past two weeks.
Ruth my deAH, on this "good to be alive day" I'm most happy to see my favorite gal behind the bar! Set ‘em up on me - treats for the crittAHs ‘n a mugga Joe with a Jolt if you please! Boris ring the bell - ‘n the change is for YOU, young lady!
Temps around my part of the world are in the low 20s right now - expected to get into the 30s. Not a bad day at all. Got rain ‘n more cold forecast for the weekend. Of course down in the Keys things are much bettAH, right Cap'n Tom
Gasoline is at $3.39 and has been all over the map lately . . . expect it to remain above three bucks forever.<groan>
Interesting "bit" from Da Bossman - can't figure out these forums. Surely a mystery how things "work," or bettAH put, "don't work"! Sorry that you lost your work AFTER it got posted. Man, that's strange.
All kinds of "stuff" from Rob yesterday - must've been your day off, huh Anyway, good to see you back in fine form. Trying to regain your status ‘round here as a regular Well, we'll just have to submit it to the "committee" once you show that you're serious about it.
Not trying to tick you off or anything like that - but after reading your "report" from your summertime adventure, I just gotta ask. What is wrong with you!?!!?!? I mean this was supposed to be your first time to the maritimes by train and you elected to go on the cheap?!?!?!? Absolutely don't get it, don't get it. Don't blame it on your Scottish heritage, for I know several from that part of the world who'd take issue with the aspersion. <grin> (Have some close friends not far from here with parents who moved to the U.S. from Scotland - in fact we're all members of the same Lodge . . .)
Anyway, here's how it works: whenever you get a chance to ride in a dome, take it. One nevAH knows whether that will be the ONLY time you'll have to do it. And they say youth is wasted on the young. No joke . . .
I spoke with Molly Throttlebottom and she assured me that although she "favors" you immensely, she'll cut you NO SLACK when it comes to the course you're enrolled in. Pass it or get rephrased. Pass it or wind up in the Jello Pit. Pass it or one of the H&H gals will "claim" you as their own! Good Grief Charlie Brown, what do you need - a building to fall on you Pass it!
As always, Cap'n Tom came through with yet another fine Fallen Flag for us - the Chessie is indeed a fine road to read about ‘n view. The drumheads are "way cool" ‘n it's too bad we no longer have the numbers at the bar for a "theme" day. Would've made a gudun . . . <grin>
The coalminer guy we call Shane has made it back to the bar with a "real" post this morning. Great to see your return. Believe it or not, I heard a reference to "Miner's Day" on the radio this morning . . . and this is New YAWK City . . . Anyway, it isn't a "happy day" per se, especially when considering how many have given up their lives in doing that kinda work. A toast to those who do the things necessary for us to do what we do! <klink>
Encouraging news from the desert as Eric refuses to give in to the situation. Way to go, mate! Another nog on me! And by the way, I too recalled that photo from Chicago. Steamer shot is ‘way cool' too . . .
Thanks for the well wishes for my Mrs. - got more tests tomorrow.
Pete it goes like this: YOU aren't allowed in the Penthouse Suite - neither is Eric. After what youse guyz tried to do to Ruth ‘n me some months back . . . <geesh>
I haven't done a search on that "Roar of the Rails" - but you could! One can only imagine what the kids of today are "learning" from video games ‘n the like. Hell, I already know - I watched my grandchildren go through that phase. Now, some are young adults, but you can tell that their "socialization" was far, far different from mine or my sons. Just the way it is I supposed as the generations pass us by . . . <groan>
Cap'n Tom, that was a nice "thing" you had to say about the fellow sailor you met aboard the Via train. Nice to develop friendships that way.
Pete's commentary about a bond between those of us who served in the military is oh so true. Same goes for sailors of all stripes. Once at sea and against the elements, the bond shows through when engaged in conversation - every time. Pete, not to worry, mate - you'd fit in quite well in the "circles" I run in - of course we'd not understand a thing you say <according to what I've heard!>
By the way, that's a great looking Irish train you've got there. WHEN does it get a "home" of it's own Kinda past due, isn't it
Rob, those two advertisements fit right in with the "stuff" going on ‘round here and the photos for our Toy & Model Trains Day
A quick good morning , just coffee and a number three Ruth as today is a work day.
Tom-You must be using the wrong recycled electrons to have lost a posted post ( I know Boris that statement just hurt my head as well ) That or they were made in China and have been recalled for their lead content At any rate I'll leave a couple bucks in the coal scuttle for any required usuage this afternoon and evening while I'l toiling away.
Amazing that Exporail is going to expand that much, ah to have government funding !I'm glad that you like that cut and bridge , unhappily all those scenes are gone. The club in it's wisdom ended up tearing them all out to put in stagging the "operators" won out over the those that wanted to complete and upgrade the visuals of the layout, there by increasing the yields at the public open house's.Oh well and the the operations are fine ( and they really were ) people that wanted the visual upgrades actually had more support than those who did the tearing out, oh well train club politics, I've had my shore and don't do it anymore
Eric-I'm glad to hear that you are getting some better help/ advice. At least with retirment pending any work stress will be gone from your life , which should help. Our trip was this past July/August.
Lars-Ah yes we must keep Pete happy, some nice book covers however What can I say we were away for almost three weeks , believe it or not teh train trip was cheaper than the flight would have been , I'm just PO'd that we were lead down the path, had we known that we would not have access to the dome nervanna,we would have spent the extra couple of bills to be sure.
Not to worry I think I'll pass her coarse, besides she wouldn't leave me in the clutches of H&H, and even if she did they wouldn't make my life to horrible as I am the one who sponsered them to come to mentor in the first place ( I had them brought in I can send them back out )Vito said so anyway
As to my Scot background , hey I'm only half, Heather's full blooded , she likely has the first dollar bill she made ( and she won't tell me where it is ) My grandmother always said that I was tighter than tree bark, I have improved over the years mind you .
Good day Tom and all at Our place. A round for all if you please. I haven't had a chance to check the new posts, but I will just post a couple of pictures of my engine project for now. Later, I will post a more lengthy dialogue.
As you can see, I have most of the parts made and am starting to assemble them. There's still a lot to do.
I've embarked on an additional project involving kitchen cabinets and hope that won't take too long. I'm trying to get the cabinets done before my wife comes home . Sort of a surprise, so don't you tell her.
BTW, I have a book for those interested in railfan trips. It describes some interesting "Orient Express" type trains throughout the world. If anyone is interested in it, I can mail it to you.
P.S. I filled up last night at $2.79 per gal.
Good to see the return of CM3 Shane to his normal morning "slot" - also the support continues from Manager Lars 'n trolleyboy Rob is moving up on the inside! Also just caught a Post from DD1 Ron . . . hit 'n run, but some good info provided.
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #64
<A form of this was intially Posted on Page 111, Jan 25th, 2006 on the Original Thread>
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Pullman Company from a 1949 advertisement in my personal collection.
How to pack more pleasure into your vacation
GO PULLMAN
A pint of Harvey's Christmas Ale please RUTH(8.2 ABV), as it is snowing here now.
ROB Many thanks for the description and photos of your time in Halifax, there certainly is a lot to see and do there. With Keith's Brewery as well.
Very sorry to read of the trouble you had on your outward trip on the Ocean. I was very lucky on our trip to Halifax on the Ocean as Tom had been on the train before and made the arrangements. The Renaissance stock was not quite a shock to me as I am used to the stock and loading gauge in the UK. I' m glad we went on the Ocean first as the Renaissance cars would have been very disappointing if we had traveled on those great Budd cars and Dome on the Chaleur first.
Luckily our trip on Amtrak's Southwest Chief from Los Angeles to Kansas City went well and the bride enjoyed the trip so she says she is willing to go on another long distance rail trip.That was sad what happened to the model railway.
Who would do the cooking if H&H were to leave; they have got the Fish ‘n' Chips down to a treat.
ERIC Great to see you back at the bar, real glad you have got the doctor situation sorted out.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. Is the X2000 on the track nearest the river.
I bet that steam loco in your photo was making a great sound.
JAN Thanks for the drink and I hope you can get a good sleep.Try not to work too hard.
CM3 A toast indeed to all the miners on Miner's Day. I often think of them when I see one of the very long coal trains passing through here on it way to a power station, they do a difficult and dangerous job to provide us with the electricity which we take for granted. Although I lived outside the mining area in England a lot of our work in the factory I worked at was building the very large D.C mine winding motors.
Many thanks for the details on the C&O bookcovers provided by Manager Lars. Interesting about the H8s 2-6-6-6s, were they used on the wrong type of train by the C&O.I think that it is a really good photo that looks like it is a painting as in the one of 7460.
Thanks for info on the switch from diesel to electric on the FL9s.
Really enjoyed reading the catalog rerun post.
LARS I did have a search of Roar of the Rails, the one I found was a TV program from the 1940s it sounded good for its time.
Yes Tom and I have discussed how things have changed with the youngsters today although I have to say I have found a lot of them are far more polite over here than most of them in England today.
Really appreciate those kind words.
Unfortunately the work on the basement has had to be put back this year but things are happening now, so a home for the layout is hopefully is on the way.
Some classic diesels on the covers from the Larsman Mobile today. Thanks for sharing.
Talking of the Scottish being tight with money, did you hear of the Scotsman who had a big lottery win
His wife said to him "Andrew, what about the begging letters".
He thought for a while and replied "Och keep sending them oot".
To put things right with the Scots.
When God created the world he showed Scotland to Gabriel, who looked at Scotland and said, "With those beautiful snow covered mountains, lovely clear lochs and the pleasant green glens you are giving too much to one country. God replied "You have not seen who I am giving them as neighbors".
Seriously though I have found the Scottish people to be generous and kind hearted, in fact I met the bride in Scotland.
RON Many thanks for the photo of the model it looks to be coming on really well. I am sure your wife will be pleased with the cabinets.
TOM Thanks for the kind words.
It is really annoying when you lose a post but as you say today's one was extra strange, it being on the site and than vanishing.
I talked with Alan yesterday and he is going to send over a magazine that has something on the Silver Princess stainless steel car that was imported from the USA and ran o
Hi Tom and all,
"In memory of all those who fell at Pearl Harbour, Lest we Forget"
The usual round of Tui`s for the crew please Leon, it`s great to be back on site again, and many thanks to Tom for stocking up on the Tui since i`ve been off line!
Tom. Many thanks for the e-mail`s, it was great keeping in touch while the PC was in the "shop" for the fix! Had a great time catching up on all your posts, the ICE of DB, LRC and Budd cars, Pullman, six pack and Fallen Flags and the model RR`s, will have to re-read them again to digest all the info and pics.
Eric. Great to see you are being well looked after by your new surgeon, hope your not feeling so much pain now, they reckon that the gall bladder pain is worse than childbirth, although us boys would`nt know about that would we? Found a pic of the X2000 in a book I have, it was pictured in Phillidelphia, was wondering if you were driving it at the time? You take care now!
Rob. Enjoyed that Canadian Heritage site, great pics and info, many thanks. Had an interest in aircraft because of my AA artillery service, used to do a bit of aircraft recognition instructing in those far off days. Really enjoyed all your Canadian RR write up`s, that RSC24 is a very unusual looker, if I remember their was a Model RR article about scratch building one a few years back. Enjoyed all catching up on all your pics and posts.
Lars. Thanks for the really great selection from the Larsman Mobile, a nice colourful set of book covers and model RR pics. Sounds as if the competition between NY and Boston is the same as the one between our town and Waipawa our closest neighbor, they are always trying to outdo each other all the time!
Jan. Really enjoyed all your Observation car and trestle pics mate, good to see you are catching up on your sleep now!
CM3. A toast on Miner`s Day. Nice to see you back on board, nice repost of Lars`s C&O book covers and enjoyed your catalog re-write, very informative.
Fergie. Enjoyed your write up on the history of the Mess`s RR. Hope your Thermos is OK now, as we used to say in the artillery "Keep your powder dry".
Pete. Had a great time catching up on all you info and great pics mate! Don`t tempt me too much about coming to see Dwight D at ExpoRail, what I would`nt do to see an A4 in the flesh again, last time I saw Sir Nigel was at Doncaster way back when! Nice crop of photo`s of Alan`s, thats a nice looking Irish train set of yours, is it a Hornby set or a local maker? I remember the Wizard comic so well, at least it had a bit of something to read in it, not all pictures like the Beano and Dandy, my other favourite about 49/50 was the Eagle with Dan Dare and the great cutaway drawings in the centrefold pages, their was one of Mallard that I saved but that has gone the same way as my trainspotter books have. That rail painting site is great, i`ll be downloading some pics from there soon, thanks for that. Your wife`s Green Bay pics are top notch!
Ron. Nice to see you, enjoyed the photo`s of your engine project, is that scale lumber you are using or do you mill it yourself?
See ya, Allan
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, I’ll have a double cheese burger! No, no, supersized Root Beer, please! Haven't had a root beer for years!Very busy day at the office so I am tired tonight, but a short stop is better than no stop! Tom – The post gone? Gone-Zo? That must be our cat, Gonzo, who did it. Thanks for the warning, now I know where to look when things are missing here. Good reasons to travel by Pullman, but it is getting harder and harder to do that. At least I have one of those books!CM3 – I found out a few facts about the different looking tank car you saw in the background in one of my photos (below) from Orange Empire Railway Museum. It is a 6-dome wine tank car built 1941 for GATX.
6-dome tank car to the left.
Lars – Another nog? Wow, good stuff! Hope all tests will show what they have to do to get your Mrs. well again! Pete and I did to Ruth? We haven’t done anything at all. At least not what I can recall. Some real interesting books! I would love to have them all! Rob – Thanks for the info on your trip! Yes, it will be very nice to retire in two weeks! My gall bladder has been very quiet the last 36 hours but I always have to be very careful what I eat. I am looking forward to my surgery. Ron – Thanks for the pictures of your engine project! It looks very promising as far as I can tell! Looks great!Pete – My regular doctor is a good man. He knows when to help! You are right, the X2000 is on the track nearest the river. Good eyes! You are also right about the sound from that steam loco! Nice pictures! Let me see, the PRR sign was most likely on, hmmm, that electric thingie?! Nice looking GG1! One thing I don’t like when they have electrics on display is when they let one (or both) pantograph “reach straight up into the sky” when there is no catenary above. Allan – Good to see that you are able to connect again! The gall bladder pain is real bad but today I have been pain free all day! The picture of the X2000 in Philadelphia was most likely taken when I was on it. My job was not to operate the train, it was to train Amtrak’s engineers how to run it and always be in the cab when the train was moving. But it happened I was operating it myself.
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house. Good to see Eric posting!
Pearl Harbor
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USS West Virginia and USS Tennessee
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USS West Virginia, USS Tennessee and USS Arizona
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USS Arizona (1918)
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Friday's Grin
Today is "The day that will live in infamy." <FDR> We refer to it as Pearl Harbor Day - Dec 7th . . . lest we forget.
Here's another installment for the "Our" Place Warehouse of Wondrous Forgotten Technologies and Skills (WWFTS) . . . .
Changing channels on a TV set WITHOUT a remote control
. . . . .Tuning in UHF channels with a "loop" antenna
. . . . . . . . . . Tuning in VHF channels with a "rabbit ear" antenna
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:37 AM: I think Manager Lars said it all regarding Miner's Day . . .
Been awhile since we've been treated to a full-fledged inclusive offering from our Resident WVA Connection - well done!
Super-fine ENCORE! of your catalog Posting from awhile back . . . kinda makes the season "right," eh
I used to acquire mine from our local toy store <wasn't called a hobby shop back then>. Anyway, the guy who owned it always had a stack of Lionel and Gilbert catalogs "at the ready" for any ‘n all who came through the door. Can you imagine THAT in today's way of doing business Yeah, right . . . Anyway, I'd spend HOURS pouring through the pages - wishing, dreaming, thinking, hoping . . . much, much enjoyment from "back in the day" fer sure, fer sure!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 11:01 AM: Didn't catch any "dupes" in your book covers, although I'm sure "someone with an Eagle Eye" is closely monitoring . . . <uh oh> Yes, the Rat's Patoot Room awaits . . . <grin>
Got a kick out of your mini-blast directed at our Ontario Connection. Look - he's young, what more can you say Dontacharecall when you didn't have ALL the bucks you'd like to have had But, his is a transgression of a different order, fer sure, fer sure. NOT availing himself of the info that's been "out there" for ions - and NOT checking the VIA Rail web site - well, that's really a <duh> in the 1st degree. Perhaps we should develop an "award" for stuff like that, eh We KNOW who'd be the first winner!
"Cool" looking Green Bay & Western Alco . . . <sweet>
Many thanx again for the continuing daily support, contributions ‘n interaction. That's the kinda "stuff" this place was created for and in large measure has been known for.
Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:31 AM: Now that's more like it - dropping off a "little something" BEFORE heading off to work. Seems like you're trying to get back in the "groove," and doing a fine job of it at that. Just take things on a slow bell - any pressure created can be self-induced. Don't let it happen
Mid-mornin' at the bar 'n it doesn't appear as if we're going to have anyone stop by - so, here's some "action" from the archives . . .
Pennsylvania Railroad GG1s . . .
(1) PRR # 4877 <Courtesy: http://www.trainweb.org - a Corel Corp. foto>
(2) PRR # 4935 <Courtesy: www.trainweb.org>
(3) PRR # 4916 <Courtesy: www.trainweb.org>
(4) PRR # 4877 (same loco as #1 . . . different livery) <Courtesy: www.trainweb.org>
My favorite is (1) - Tuscan with the gold striping . . . .
Ruth my deAH, a Larsman special hero sandwich (sometimes called hoagie) of ham, Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH with two extra large ‘n crunchy pickles from the barrel if you please. Treats for the crittAHs ‘n give Boris the small jar of PPF (pickled pig's feet) once he feeds the gang! <grin> A round for the house in the form of a toast to all of our soldiers, sailors ‘n airmen who fell on Dec 7, 1941. <To your service!>
Gonna be a long day ‘round the hut as the Mrs. is "in" for more tests. Expect to retrieve her sometime later this afternoon. She's an unhappy camper, but has to do what needs to be done. ‘nuf said on that . . .
Getting some things organized for our trip to the Keys ‘n right now it looks like one of my sons will drive the buggy down for us, loaded with "stuff" then he'll pick us up at the airport in Miami ‘n fly back. Great that he's got the time to do these things - but he'd do it anyway. That kinda "kid" . . .
Looks like some interesting material dropped off at the bar yesterday, highlighted by another of Cap'n Tom's creations - that passenger train nostalgia ALWAYS "flicks my switch" - nice one on Pullman!
Todays installment of GG1's also hit the spot form Da Bossman!
There IS a light at the end of the tunnel with the return of our Ontario Connection, trolleyMAN Rob - he's providing "stuff" again to keep the guys involved.
Not to slight anyone - I have noticed that Shane returned with a fine offering relating to those electric train catalogs, ‘n of course the "hit ‘n run" post from Ron down in "Mississip." (good "stuff," but no interaction)
Ah yes, can't forget the man called Wolf(e) - as he too always seems to come up with a few pix, as does Eric in the sand box. Hmmmmm, maybe things aren't as <grim> as I had thought! Keep it up guys . . .
Guess the point is we're down to perhaps 4 regulars and everyone else falls in somewhere along the tracks . . . let's hope we can hang on ‘til new blood comes along.
A reminder for the gang: The bar is CLOSED on Christmas - that's the policy, so let's keep to it. It's a day off for all, including the crittAHS . . .
Got a few more book covers for the crew from the Larsman Mobile . . . . WondAH how many of these I've put up over the years Anyway, here they come . . .
L&N Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment
L&N in Color
Tennessee Central Railway
Trackside around Louisville - 1948-1958
Trackside around Louisville - 1947-1958
Ruth my deAH, I'll have a double hit of JD on the rocks as I take in your radiant glow!
Yeah, yeah Boris - you can go out back 'n chase the crittAHs. Should be a good day for it 'n don't forget to wipe your feet B4 comin' back in. Don't want that "stuff" all ovAh the pool room floor. <geesh> Just like a big kid that cloven footed Cyclops of ours.
Thought I'd swing by again to see what's going on - nothing! <geesh> Nary a soul this day, aside from Da Bossman ‘n me. Hmmmmmm. I'll keep my comments to myself this time.
I've had those GG1's on my mind since Cap'n Tom dropped off his group of 4, so here's some others from the files of the Larsman Mobile!
PRR GG1 #4933 (photo credit: Jack Humphrey)
PRR GG1 #4800 (photo credit: RR Museum of PA)
PRR GG1 #4859 (photo credit: Transportation Center, Harrisburg, PA)
PRR GG1 #4890 (photo credit: Frank Hicks) (looks like the one Pete posted . . . . )
PRR GG1 #4890 (photo credit: National RR Museum, Green Bay, WI) (same engine, different paint job!)
PRR GG1 #4903 (courtesy: Age of Steam Museum, Dallas, TX)
Good Afternoon Barkeep and All Present' coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Gas is down to $2.99 - jeez! Had all kinds of weather here today - sleet, freezing rain, partly cloudy, and now it's raining again. So, we have of course been outside - never fails.
Let' see what we have today.
Lars has installed LoadLevelers on the book mobile to carry all of the fine titles he has shared with us. There was a lot of good L&N material. Interesting shot of the Pascagoula area before it got rearranged. Let's see, Terminal Station is in the background behind the Frisco E unit. The L&N station at B'ham was a more modern structure. The waiting room was down below and the trains ran on a fill above. Crescent presently uses the old L&N stop there. Many of the SLSF units were named for famous racehorses. They later went to the L&N where they were r# r/p, and lost their names.
Incidentally, the TC book is a good one about a line that many people don't know a whole lot about.
Nice set of G pictures. For those of you who like this sort of thing, Sunday River has a good program titled "Under the Heat" (or something like that, IIRC), which is about an hour's worth of G motors in their native habitat.
Rob stopped by with comments as did DD1 with "shop pictures." Always like to see how different projects are doing.
Pete was by with comments and a question. My remark about the C&O H8s goes back to the fact that they were used in coal train service for the most part. People who worked for the railroad at the time told me that was a misapplication as they really worked better in faster service. Anyway, they were truly beasts and a fine looking piece of equipment, IMHO. They never ran up here, but were confined to the main line because of their size and weight. The picture of the C&O steam book, as you suggest, is a painting.
Allan - Thank you for the kind words.
Eric - A 6-dome wine car? Just like the ones that run in unit train service of the Mentor and Southern Narrow Gauge, although some of their cars are lead lined, especially the ones in captive service to Second Class. I remember seeing six dome purple-painted wine cars on the NYC at Harmon, NY - No, Artie, I had not ridden from GCT to Harmon in the club car. I'll bet that was a fine vintage after riding over some of that track.
BTW, your note about pans brought something to mind about Amtrak ads and unintended consequences of poorly conceived advertising copy.
I remember a brochure for the "New" Broadway Limited where they had a color wraparound cover shot of refurbished equipment for the Broadway running behind GG1s with some kind of generic field and weeds background. The fun part was that there was not a pole or overhead wire in sight. Amazing what you can either strip out or eliminate by judicious use of an airbrush b4 you set it up to print. As I said to somebody at the time, the folks west of Harrisburg would have no idea of what was portrayed if they had not deleted the wires.
The other one that comes to mind was the inside cover of a national timetable where they had a shot of what was clearly an SCL E7. A rope was attached to a piece of iron above the headlight. The rope was, in turn being pulled by someone in a business suit. My buddies in Nashville who dealt with this equipment said (in rather pungent language) that this was a case of, shall we say, art imitating life as some of those old Es would get over the road faster if the passengers did pull them. Joys of the old "South Wind" and the late, lamented "Fast Flying Flo." Believe me, you had to be there to see some of the power that ran on those trains (a lot of it prewar, too).
OSP has been keeping us busy with Pullman material and G motors, as well as some additions to the ever expanding Warehouse of Wondrous Forgotten Skills and Technologies. We may have to move it to the Mentor and Southern Mallet House if it outgrows its present building. Anyway, here are some more additions; fender skirts, curb feelers, making orange juice at home from real oranges, and using a pocket knife to sharpen a pencil.
Mike sent pictures. U.S.S. West Virginia's bell survives, but the rest of her is, of course, long gone.
On that note, all rise and a toast to missing friends.
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and All
Lars... Egg Nog? You shouldn't have! The calories are a killer my man about 800 with the Anti Freeze, yes say its not so. But what the hey I earned it!!!
We left St John's yesterday after a brief respite and an early night in the bunk (Not like our single youthful days, Eh Tom) and am now on the way to South of Sable Is before we head in. Weather is "good" (ya for December that is)
Anyway In know there have been many comments directed my way but I'll have to book back in tomorrow as the time is late.
Coalminer~ I am a big fan of the C&O and have three Steamers H-8, T-1 and a Berk. They had lovely engines and yes all I've read on the Alleghenies indicates they were not used to their full potential.
Well thanks for the Coffee and put a round on my tab please and thanks. Would have stayed for sup but it was fisherman's platter for lunch and pub night with Potato skins and cheese with... my favourite.... Wait for it... WINGS!!!
Later All
Fergie
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If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Good afetrnoon Barekeep and all again; more coffee, another round for the hosue and a weekend's worth of $ for the jukebox.
Fergie posted right after I left, so here we are again.
A C&O T-1? Good choice and arguably about the best steam they ever had. Lots of stories about that one for sure.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
MIKE Thanks for the photos and the links on this very important day in United States history.
ALLAN Great to see you back at the bar after the computer problems. Many thanks for the kind words on the photos.
It is going to be quite a year for A4s in Britain next year. As well as three A4s working from London to Edinburgh and back to commemorate the Coronation express introduced in 1938, in April there is a special train with 60019 ‘Bittern' (a former Gateshead engine) running from London King's Cross to York, then 60007 Sir Nigel Gresley to Edinburgh. After a night stay in the Scottish capital it is 60009 over the Forth and Tay bridges to Aberdeen. There the preserved K4 No. 61994 The Great Marquess will run to Inverness for a two-night stay with a trip to the Kyle of Lochalsh where a coach trip will go over to the Isle of Skye.
From Inverness the special will run with 61994 and 60009 over the Highland main line to Perth where 61994 comes off and 60009 carries on to Glasgow for another nights stay. The last day 60007 will run from Glasgow to York via Beattock, Carlisle and Newcastle. At York ether A4 60019 or a Deltic diesel will return the train to London. What a trip. My friends the two Alans have already booked on the trip so at least I should get some photos. Me jealous, you bet
It would have seemed unbelievable when steam finished on BR, that 40 years later it would be possible to go behind three A4s from London to Aberdeen.
The Eagle was the other comic that I used to get, although a few years later than you used to get it. As you say the cut away drawings were really wonderful. I had the Eagle Annual one year, although the details of it are a bit hazy, I do recall there were cutaway drawings in that as well.
Yes the Rail Artists site is very good I am glad you are enjoying it as well.
Sorry I was not very clear. Dwight D. is at the National Railway Museum in Green Bay Wisconsin and The A4 at ExpoRail is Dominion Of Canada, it is strange of the six A4s in preservation four of them have consecutive BR numbers 60007 to 60010. I have brought over some cassettes that were given free with Steam Railway Magazine many years ago, on one track it is the A4 with the distinctive whistle I think it was 60010 which had a whistle given by a Canadian railway but the notes which came with the tape as been long since lost..
ERIC I wonder why museums feel they have to have the pantographs of electric locomotives at full stretch. If they want to show a pantograph why not put a piece of centenary up, which could show the insulators etc and explain about main line electrification.
I had not heard of a wine car before we could do with one converted to beer for use by the track gang at Our Place on Friday nights.
I too can't recall any discretion with RUTH ether.
Gonzo is a great name for a cat.
LARS It looks as though you could well be right about the day of the 3,000th post. If you think of how slow we were at the bar this time last year and into the start of 2007 we are not doing too bad at the bar, great quality of the posts as well.
Many thanks for another great set of bookcovers with some great color photos from The Larsman Mobile. It is great that you are able to find them still as it must be a good number that you have shared with us at the bar.
CM3 Thanks for the details on Lars's bookcovers, it was interesting to read about the SLSF units named after racehorses, I guess Kentucky Derby winners.
I remember about talking about a certain class of BR steam locomotive with an old driver about their use on freight traffic, he shook his head and said the locos were "Too big in the wheel". I wonder if that was the problem with the H8s, I agree though, they do look very impressive engines.
Enjoyed reading about the ‘artistic license' in the advertising copy. I guess it is even worse now in the age of digital photography,it is hard to know if the image you are seeing is in fact a true rendition.
Love to hear the stories about the C&O T1s.
I will join you in the Toast, if I may.
FERGIE Thanks for the round. Glad the weather has improved up there.
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