Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!
Figured I'd swing by on this Sunday to say:
JINTS WIN! JINTS WIN! JINTS WIN! Was there any doubt <grin>
Cleveland is in big trouble now that they let the Beantowners off the hook when they had ‘em 3 games to 1. I will say this - the stupidity of the scheduling controlled by television and permitted by major league baseball just may have turned the tide.
Why do I say this Well figure it out. What was the point of a day off between games 4 and 5 in Cleveland?????? It may have taken any momentum away from the Indians as they were on a roll. Remember when it was a GIVEN that the teams would play TWO <day off> THREE <day off> and TWO
I think the reasoning was that TV figured IF the NL playoffs were still on, they'd be playing that day, thereby keeping the "one game per day" nonsense going for as long as they (TV) could milk it. I say <barf> to the idiots who make these decisions and <triple barf> to the empty suit overseeing baseball for not having the MARBLES to stand up for what is right.
I honestly could give a rat's patoot less about who wins - as my team is long gone. But I'd like to see some common sense in scheduling return to the playoffs. End of
Red Sox really put it to the Indians last night and I'd say it's time to "put out the lights, the party's ovAH!"
And what to my aging eyes do I see but the appearance of one trolleyboy Rob at the bar! Could it be Is it true
Well, it's a good thing for YOU, matey -for we've had just about all we can handle of this AWOL status of yours! Boris ‘n Leon were making ready to shave your belly with a rusty razor WHEN we located you up in Ontario! <yikes> <ouch>
Time will tell if you mean it <this time!!> However, when the joint opens up - the first one is on the Manager! <clink>
A tribute to you in the form of some BK (BudKarr) offerings from bettAH times! My guess is he'd like knowing that these are ‘dedicated' in memory of his Mrs. (Lydia) to the return of trolleyMAN Rob to the bar!
Sheffield Supertram in Sheffield UK 2005 (from: www.wikipedia.com)
New Flexity Classic tram in service on Glenelg line in Adelaide, South Australia. (from: http://www.wikipedia.com/)
Sheffield Supertram in Sheffield UK 2005 (from: http://www.wikipedia.com/)
A Metrolink tram in the Manchester city centre 2004 (from: http://www.wikipedia.com/)
A Citadis tram in Melbourne, Australia 2004 (from: www.wikipedia.com)
A tram of the Luas system in Dublin, Ireland 2005 (from: www.wikipedia.com)
Good selection of flicks at the Emporium from Da Bossman! That western is going to "do it" for the Mrs. She LOVES that Selleck character! Gonna be one of those nights . . . <uh oh> <grin> Hmmmm, maybe I could arrange for them to meet . . . Hmmmmmm. <grin> Then Ruth ‘n I would be . . . Nah, too much to hope for! <uh oh>
I'm really "into" those Hornblower stories! Used to read ‘em aboard ship . . . but that was many years long past . . . I think A&E did a commendable job in putting them together for viewing . . . sure there are always differences between a flick ‘n a book, but just taking ‘em for the entertainment value without making comparisons - nicely done!
Nice to see the place looking <spiffy> ‘n congrats to Jan for becoming one of "us" as a REGULAR at Da Bar! Drinks on . . . . JAN! On MONDAY, of course! <what huh?>
New York City was known for it's "EL" before ‘n during my childhood. Still have sections of their subway system running elevated. Boston has elevated sections . . .
I think NY ‘n Chicago are probably the most prominent in having elevated commuter train systems . . . JUMP in Shane!!
Visit from down under helped to keep things moving forward on Saturday as our Gunneral man, Alan didn't let us down!
I know a bit about rugby ‘n would nevAH put down what those guys engage in. Nope, no way, no how! That's one rugged sport where mayhem is legalized! <yikes> You're oh so right about the body armor in U.S. football. Put those guys up against pro-rugby players - without their protective gear ‘n it would be Katy bar the d
Listen here people, listen to what I have to say If you drink bad whiskey, it will do you this a-way Plays harmonica and taps the foot Make you lose your money, make you lose your best friend And when you get sober, swear you'll never get drunk again Plays harmonica and taps the foot Lay down in the evening, wake up in the morning feeling bad It's just some bad liquor, partner, that you've hadGet up in the morning, your head going round and round Buy more bad liquor, stand there and drink it down Plays harmonica and taps the foot Better stop that drinking, before it goes to your head Wake up some morning, find your own self dead. Oh sorry Larsman.....didn't see you there....I see that your team has finally won....eh? Last check.....Vikings-7 and Dallas Cowboys-7. GO VIKINGS! La Dodgers fourth in National League West.....Boston Bruins second in Northeast in the Eastern Conference.... I see that you're smoking trolleyboy out with some more city rails, hmmm....where the swedish stuff then? The last two ones looks not too bad I have to admit, at least they have some curves to them.... Do we dear hope for some Pacific Electric and Los Angeles Railway??? I've got a beer drinkin' baby, well she drinks both night and dayI've got a beer drinkin' baby, well she drinks both night and dayWell she's never satisfied till she uses all my pay....
Listen here people, listen to what I have to say
If you drink bad whiskey, it will do you this a-way
Plays harmonica and taps the foot
Make you lose your money, make you lose your best friend
And when you get sober, swear you'll never get drunk again
Lay down in the evening, wake up in the morning feeling bad
It's just some bad liquor, partner, that you've had
Get up in the morning, your head going round and round
Buy more bad liquor, stand there and drink it down
Better stop that drinking, before it goes to your head
Wake up some morning, find your own self dead.
Oh sorry Larsman.....didn't see you there....
I see that your team has finally won....eh?
Last check.....Vikings-7 and Dallas Cowboys-7. GO VIKINGS!
La Dodgers fourth in National League West.....
Boston Bruins second in Northeast in the Eastern Conference....
I see that you're smoking trolleyboy out with some more city rails,
hmmm....where the swedish stuff then? The last two ones looks
not too bad I have to admit, at least they have some curves to them....
Do we dear hope for some Pacific Electric and Los Angeles Railway???
I've got a beer drinkin' baby, well she drinks both night and dayI've got a beer drinkin' baby, well she drinks both night and dayWell she's never satisfied till she uses all my pay....
Harmonica and taps foot again....
She drinks beer in the morning, beer in the night,Come home raises hell, all she wants to do is fightShe's my beer drinking baby, well she drinks beer all the timeShe drinks beer so often I'm afraid I'll go stone blind.....
I have looked the Chicago "L" and some street cars, hope to see some more of those, always eager to learn and all that. Hopefully I'll make you, Tom and everybody else proud with less and less of my famous being one of the lads now..Y-e-e-s-s-s-s! 14-7 to Vikings......in the 3rd quarter.GO VIKINGS! When she walks the streets all night, up and down 7th AvenueDrinkin' that wine and beer till she don't know what to doShe's my beer drinking baby, well she drinks beer all the timeWell she drinks beer so often I'm afraid I'll lose my mind. Harmonica and taps foot.... See you down the crossroads......walks out playing the harmonica....
I have looked the Chicago "L" and some street cars, hope to see some
more of those, always eager to learn and all that.
Hopefully I'll make you, Tom and everybody else proud with less and less of my famous being one of the lads now..Y-e-e-s-s-s-s! 14-7 to Vikings......in the 3rd quarter.GO VIKINGS!
Hopefully I'll make you, Tom and everybody else proud with less and less of
my famous being one of the lads now..
When she walks the streets all night, up and down 7th AvenueDrinkin' that wine and beer till she don't know what to doShe's my beer drinking baby, well she drinks beer all the timeWell she drinks beer so often I'm afraid I'll lose my mind.
Harmonica and taps foot....
See you down the crossroads......walks out playing the harmonica....
Good evening folks. (uses his Vincent Price accent) Anywho yes I do seem to have been flushed out by the managers not so indirect prodding aqctually Lars the first rounds on me as I forgot to poney up last night
Jan-Nice to meetcha as Vito might say. yes you can count on me for some "oldy timy" trolley's 'n' trams and streetcars as we call them up er over where I am. I did notice that Tom and Lars are a bit lighter in the folical dept. I was assuming it was Boris's doing not yours but time shall tell. Hey at least you seem to be a song and dance man or at least good with the harmonica. I think Lars ave you a fairly accurate add in as to the other cities with elevated tracks. there are some vestiges in Detroit as well.
Lars-Nice new fandangled street rail equipment I'm feeling at home already thanks !
Tom-Since I know I'm in for a tweeting I'm already heading out towards the shed for not ordering yesterday.I fiogure it likely needs some cleaning anyway also I'll confiscate any and all rusty razors that I may find in the process of. So rendezvous number three's in your backyard again eh ? soundslike home field advantage to me sir I'll shall concider comming as my goofy coloured bucks have the advantage for the moment, last time I saw the CDN buck where it is I was two or three
See everyone in the AM ish
Rob
<personal foto>
A smile to begin the week!
Someone asked Yogi whether he had read a recent biography written about him and he replied, "Why should I? I was there.
<A Yogi-ism!>
Guten Morgen allerseits!
Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!
It's THAT DAY again - called Monday, the start of a new work week <for many>! Put a smile on your face right here by joining us for a wake-up mugga Joe - pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n your choice of a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! See how easy that was
Boston won! Boston won! Boston won! The last of it - called the World Series - begins Wednesday in Boston against the Colorado Rockies!
Of interest to VIA Rail followers . . .
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2007/10/20/via-late.html
Comments from the Proprietor:
A hearty back to a guy who has returned from The Legion of the Lost! A no-longer-UTB! Our long-time regular, trolleyboy Rob!
Disappear AGAIN, 'n it's YOUR butt! <grrrrrrrrrr>
TUESDAY is Amtrak day with Wolfman Pete! So, here's the deal - IF possible, a Post at NOON ‘n one around 4 PM ‘n another in the evening (US central time) would surely help a lot! That's a total of 3 guys providing some business for the place -Thanx!!!
Final OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place next Saturday at noon!
PLAN TO SHARE THIS FALL CELEBRATION WITH US!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Saturday - 20 Oct 2007:
Jan (JanOlov) at 10:08 AM: I'd say you've been with us long enough ‘n have participated frequently enough to be declared a REGULAR at "Our" Place! So, that bottle of scotch over there is YOURS ‘n welcome to the bar as a REGULAR! You also get your very own stool . . . Boris will show you the way! <grin>
There is a word of caution that goes with this most prestigious recognition: One can easily fall into the IRREGULAR REGULAR category through unannounced absences or dropping out of sight for periods exceeding what a reasonable person would consider reasonable! Get it Good!
Nice bunch of Hiawatha fotos ‘n info . . . Seems as if your "bookend" has dropped out of sight, for we'd be inundated with Milwaukee Road stuff from both sides of the pond . . . no so these days. <grin>
Thanx for helping out on Saturday ‘n providing some cash for the registers (Cashinator ‘n Tilla) coins for Herr Wurlitzer's Coal Scuttle - cigars ‘n round appreciated too!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 1:36 PM: Most happy to see our Manager once again on the weekend! Helps out whenever he can - which seems to be all of the time!
Kinda went full circle with the Wolfman, didja <grin> He does that to ya - kinda disarms ya, then just disappears. That's why we've called him Stealthy Pete!
Figured you'd jump on the "thing" about trolleyboy Rob . . . IF he peeks in ‘n IF he reads - well, hopefully the message will be conveyed. One can hope . . .
Many thanx for the ENCORE! material - good choices, fer sure, fer sure. Nothing wrong with bringing back our Page One "precepts," and the trolley Pix fit right in!
Appreciate the visit ‘n willingness to work outback under the tent!
Allan (Gunneral) at 6:51 PM: Alway
Greetings Tom and fellow worshippers of the classic trains...
I need a LARGE and very strong drink after trying the whole morning to log in.... is TRAINS having more and more trouble with their website? I better add a strong black Java to the order as well.... Give the boys the usual top up with cigars too if you don't mind please....
$$$$ for yourself as well....
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
trolleyboy, which would you say were the most scenic tram ride in the good ol' US of A? I remember reading somewhere that Portland had a very scenic one......Council Crest something something....
SP 4-8-2 #4344 on train Train #20, Klamath near Dunsmuir Cal., in July 26, 1938 .
SP 4-8-8-2 #4146, Train #14 The Pacific Limited trailing heavy smoke at 35 MPH, near Cisco, Cal., August 3, 1935.
SP 2-10-2 #3756 and 4-8-4 #4413, on second #99, Daylight doing 30 MPH near San Luis Obispo, Cal., July 23, 1938.
SP 2-8-0 #2785 on a freight train with 20 cars, near Pollock, Cal., July 25, 1938
SP 2-8-0 #2730, on a westbound freight train with 12 cars, near Klamath Falls, Ore., July 26, 1938.
SP streamlined 4-6-2 #652, on second #17, a Football Special with 9 cars at unknown location in January 1, 1938.
Credit: All above Otto Perry and Photoswest.
Good Morning Tom,
Have an eye opener on me mate... Did you have the same problem login in as I did to the forum?
Nice post Sir! I liked the photo on the USCG cutters....having a relative serving in the USN during the Korean War I'm a sucker for ships too....
As for "your" ship the USCGC Campbell (WPG 32) was she built as an destroyer first, she does have the slim lines of one....care to tell?
As for Count Robula hopefully he'll swallow my bate in one piece and give me some Street car indoctrination about this.....
You'll find my email on my profile, I thought that I had added that when I first signed up to this forum.....sorry about that. *hat in hands and head bent in shame*
Nice train art......GG1! YUMMY!
Well, now you have excuse me mate, just got the latest issue of Classic Trains in my mail.....
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, a double hit in my Joe this morning ‘n a number three from the breakfast menu if you please! A round for the house - treats for the crittAHs ‘n PPF for Boris! And of course the change is for you my sweet! <blush>
So, the Sox of Beantown put it to the Indians from Cleveland. And did they evAH put it to ‘em. Really not what one could call "good games" - those last two. Makes me wondAH how in the world the Indians evAH took three in a row from ‘em But, it's now time for the Rockies to get theirs . . . Yeah, I'd like to see Colorado beat ‘em, however, if we're talking money - place my bet on the Red Sox.
Man oh man, another marathon session just trying to get on the forums this morning. <arrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhh>
I think I've provided just about as much narrative over the weekend as I have left . . . so let me just say that it's good to see Jan about the decks so often. WHAT IS IT WITH YOU MATE about NOT UNDERSTANDING what Da Bossman wants with the e-mail address We DO NOT USE THE FORUMS we use the DIRECT METHOD. You provide your e-mail address, we provide ours ‘n we go DIRECT. NOT VIA THE FORUMS. <arrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhh> Unbelievable - good thing I don't have hair, otherwise I'd be pulling it out. <arrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhh>
I see Rob has been about the premises as well - so as Da Bossman said, we'll see, huh So the Canadian "funny money" is now worth more than ours. ‘bout time, huh Read somewhere that there are those in Canada who have said we should have the same currency between the U.S. - Canada AND Mexico. Yeah right! I can see it for the U.S. ‘n Canada <maybe> but nevAH south of the U.S. bordAH - nevAH - no way, no how.
Back to Jan - some nice steamers, mate! <clink>
Hey Boss! I'll be a bit scarce - I think - on ‘n off for much of the week. BUT I'll try to at least provide a little something for tomorrow afternoon . . . Enjoy your trip with the Wolfman! Youse guyz should have that route pretty well nailed down by now, huh Hope the beer supply holds out . . . <grin>
Now's the time we could use some HELP from those guyz you refer to as IRREGULAR REGULARS - where are they when needed, huh Probably unable to log in!! <arrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh>
Love the pix of those cutters. And nope, I've no clue where that particular one was taken. Left coast fer sure, but where? Don't know! I'm pretty much an east coast sailor, although when in the Navy ‘n a few times as a "merchie," did pull into left coast ports. Come to think of it, that could be either the Long Beach-Los Angeles port OR maybe even San Francisco-Oakland. Hmmmmmmm. Can't narrow it down further than that . . .
Campbell looks like a tough old lady. Here's a link I found for the guys who appreciate U.S. ships of WWII:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/webcutters/WPG_Photo_Index.html
Time again for the Larsman Mobile!
Alaska RR DVD
ARR DVD
ARR DVD - Vol 2
ARR Passenger Cars 2 - Streamline Cars (book)
Alaska/Yukon Railroads (book)
Ruth, I'll be up in the Penthouse Suite when you take your break - <ahem> admin work awaits!
Until the next time!
Lars
Good morning Ruth my sweet I think I'll have the "spiked coffee" in honour of BK and thank-you Lars for that fine photo montage from BK it twas appreciated sir . On the lighter side I noticed that my stool has been polished to it's usual dangerous level of glare and slipperyness , enough as to require it's PPRS ( personal,protective restraint system { seat belt} )
Tom-A double hmm I'll save it for later but thanks for the generositySooo off galivanting with Pete again happy travels sir, remeber don't do anything I wouldn't ( that leaves a lot of open to interpretation)Nice shots of your former homes away from home as well. You can almost smell the salt air oh my mistake Boris was washing his socks in brine again
Lars-never never never,we can't have a universal currency it's un Canadian , besides you guys would never go for flamboyant colours or dual languages ( not to mention the crushing weight of the coinage $1 $2 et all )That's a couple more fine fine book covers as well.
Jan-have you any speacial requests now that you are a regular as to what streetcars you would like presented to you? Now I've never lived south of the boarder in the US nor have I been out to Washington State so my choice for most scenic US streetcar line would be limited to the ones I know off.For my buck I'd have to say the Great Gorge route would have been the most scenic. It actually ran in both countries along the Niagara gorge below Niagara falls. It was for most of it's life strictly a tourist trap certainly the US portion. the Canadain side was mostly a tourist rtap but it did serve as transportation for a couple of the villages along the river conecting them to Niagara Falls and St Catharines before the highway system was expanded.Anyhow I'm off "fer" now. I'll leave a CDN $5o Should cover the drinks for the day
Greetings Tom and gentlemen,
Walks up to the bar.....could I have a refill please....? Eeerrmmmm.......make it an extra cold Guinness and a bag of cheese and onion chips please.....cheers! Could also have an top up for Tom and Da Larsman of that nice and STRONG stuff over there...? Cheers...... Now this that I've made.....bought!....bought!...shold make their nose and ear hair curl itself up and their eyes water....great stuff indeed...aaaah.....cough!...cough! Oh by the way....whenever the rest of the clan shows up, their drinks are on me.....
Tom, geez....I'd love to hear more about those trips to New York with your grandfather. I can only imagine the difference between New York back in the 40's and today Not to forget Chicago and any other larger US city...
So, if your willing to spread the word, I'm all ears and the drinks will be coming in a steady stream....
Da Larsman, well....let's blame this wee incident on my sleep deprivation....mmmm...y-e-e-s-s-s.... I honestly thought that my email was on my profile and didn't notice it until I changed avatar and signature last time.... Here mate, got you and the Bossman a nice wee drink.....
Great covers of Alaska Railroad......
trolleyboy, oooh I don't mind mate.... Let's make it easy for you and show why you began to get interested in street cars and your favorites....
Riiiight...I've got my cup for my Java, now I only have to wait for the dinner service, chair to be upholstered, coasters, shot glasses.....
Credit: americanrails.com
Now Arriving on Track #1
Six Pack Special Number Five
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
Burlington Route - Zephyr
New York, New Haven & Hartford
Pennsylvania Railroad - GG1
Union Pacific - LA Ltd.
Northern Pacific
Baltimore & Ohio
Enjoy!
Tom
Six Pack Special - RR ads
#1 Page 107
#2 Page 109
#3 Page 115
#4 Page 118
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; reload the thermos, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Just a "splash and dash" today as we are running from place to place.
Hello, Rob - Glad to see you back with us.
Lars - Giants win! Giants win!
Also there was some favorable baseball news from the Fens last night - all I'm going to say about it for now.
Will be back tomorrow and post more then (I hope) - this week's shaping up to be a wild one!
Work safe
G'day Gents!
I had thought <hoped> we'd see Wolfman Pete by now . . . after all, he's had a loooooooong rest period from the bar! <ahem> <geesh>
Anyway, thought I'd get these responses out to those of you who have visited today . . . don't know what the 'morrow will bring!
Received an Email from Per (marthastrainyard) indicating that he's been unable to sign in. He's contacted Kalmbach "customer support" for help. Yeah right! <geesh> Wonder if we'll EVER see him again!! <grin> He has been able to view the goings on however . . .
Reminder: HELP requested for Tuesday - just want a few guys to chip in 'n help out with an AM - Noon - late afternoon 'n evening Post while Pete 'n I are riding the rails! THANX!
Jan (JanOlov) at 6:51 AM & 7:22 AM: For whatever the reason, I was spared the frustration of "log in lament"! Sorry to learn that you ‘n some others have experienced this difficulty.
Very nicely done spate of Southern Pacific steam!
Sounding like a broken record - it's really a shame that our UTB ‘n Legion of the Lost guy, West Coast S (Dave) hasn't been around to take advantage of SP material. However, even when he was "active," he really didn't "catch" many of the Posts directed his way. <lament> His loss, eh Youbetcha!
That "football special" is of interest - but not because of football. Nope - just the streamlined shrouded steamer pulling heavyweights. Kind of a mixed bag - in with the "new" ‘n the "old" soon to be out.
Check out the URL provided by Manager Lars . . . it contains everything you may wish to know about the CAMPBELL ‘n her sister ships. Appreciate the interest!
Going down "that road" one more time - if you wish to be included in our off-line Email network, just send an Email directly to ME with your Email address in it - do NOT use the Forums! Once we establish off-line communications, then you're "in." Get it Surely HOPE so!! <groan> <grin>
Thanx for the top ups, etc. . . .
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:40 AM: The guy <above> is most exasperating, eh You think he's "playing" with us regarding this Email thing?!?!? <grrrrrrrrrr> I mean NO ONE can be that . . .
Really appreciate that spate of Alaska based RR book ‘n video covers! <sweet> Just makes me wish I never left back in 1960 . . .
For a guy who hasn't had many trips to the left coast by ship - you've provided some interesting deductions regarding where those HAMILTON class 378s were based! Per had sent me an Email <offline!!!> "guessing" it was San Diego . . . ‘n I told him I was going to hold off with the answer until some other "guesses' came in . . .
CAMPBELL today sits at the bottom of the sea, having been sent their as a result of target practice - a common demise for tired old ladies of the sea. Something rather sad about that, eh
Some may appreciate this: After Campbell had been decommissioned, she was turned over to the US Navy for use as a target. The Navy's Naval Air Warfare Command sank her on 30 November 1984 off Guadaloupe Island with a Harpoon missile during a fleet readiness exercise. The old warrior transmitted a final radio message as she slid beneath the waves:"UNCLAS //N05752//SUBJ: FINAL FAREWELL1. I SERVED WITH HONOR FOR ALMOST FORTY-SIX YEARS, IN WAR AND PEACE, IN THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC. WITH DUTY AS DIVERSE AS SAVING LIVES TO SINKING U-BOATS, OCEAN STATIONS TO FISHERIES ENFORCEMENT, AND FROM TRAINING CADETS TO BEING YOUR FLAGSHIP. I HAVE BEEN ALWAYS READ TO SERVE.2. TODAY WAS MY FINAL DUTY. I WAS A TARGET FOR A MISSILE TEST. ITS SUCCESS WAS YOUR LOSS AND MY DEMISE. NOW KING NEPTUNE HAS CALLED ME TO MY FINAL REST IN 2,600 FATHOMS AT 22-48N 160-06W. 3. MOURN NOT, ALL WHO HAVE SAILED WITH ME. A NEW CUTTER CAMPBELL BEARING MY NAME, WMEC-909, WILL SOON CONTINUE THE HERITAGE. I BID ADIEU. THE QUEEN IS DEAD. LONG LIVE THE QUEEN."
After Campbell had been decommissioned, she was turned over to the US Navy for use as a target. The Navy's Naval Air Warfare Command sank her on 30 November 1984 off Guadaloupe Island with a Harpoon missile during a fleet readiness exercise. The old warrior transmitted a final radio message as she slid beneath the waves:"UNCLAS //N05752//SUBJ: FINAL FAREWELL1. I SERVED WITH HONOR FOR ALMOST FORTY-SIX YEARS, IN WAR AND PEACE, IN THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC. WITH DUTY AS DIVERSE AS SAVING LIVES TO SINKING U-BOATS, OCEAN STATIONS TO FISHERIES ENFORCEMENT, AND FROM TRAINING CADETS TO BEING YOUR FLAGSHIP. I HAVE BEEN ALWAYS READ TO SERVE.2. TODAY WAS MY FINAL DUTY. I WAS A TARGET FOR A MISSILE TEST. ITS SUCCESS WAS YOUR LOSS AND MY DEMISE. NOW KING NEPTUNE HAS CALLED ME TO MY FINAL REST IN 2,600 FATHOMS AT 22-48N 160-06W. 3. MOURN NOT, ALL WHO HAVE SAILED WITH ME. A NEW CUTTER CAMPBELL BEARING MY NAME, WMEC-909, WILL SOON CONTINUE THE HERITAGE. I BID ADIEU. THE QUEEN IS DEAD. LONG LIVE THE QUEEN."
"UNCLAS //N05752//SUBJ: FINAL FAREWELL1. I SERVED WITH HONOR FOR ALMOST FORTY-SIX YEARS, IN WAR AND PEACE, IN THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC. WITH DUTY AS DIVERSE AS SAVING LIVES TO SINKING U-BOATS, OCEAN STATIONS TO FISHERIES ENFORCEMENT, AND FROM TRAINING CADETS TO BEING YOUR FLAGSHIP. I HAVE BEEN ALWAYS READ TO SERVE.2. TODAY WAS MY FINAL DUTY. I WAS A TARGET FOR A MISSILE TEST. ITS SUCCESS WAS YOUR LOSS AND MY DEMISE. NOW KING NEPTUNE HAS CALLED ME TO MY FINAL REST IN 2,600 FATHOMS AT 22-48N 160-06W. 3. MOURN NOT, ALL WHO HAVE SAILED WITH ME. A NEW CUTTER CAMPBELL BEARING MY NAME, WMEC-909, WILL SOON CONTINUE THE HERITAGE. I BID ADIEU. THE QUEEN IS DEAD. LONG LIVE THE QUEEN."
Thanx for the round, visit ‘n chat!
Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:24 AM: Errrrrrrrrrrr, ahhhhhhhhhhh - aren't you living a bit dangerously referring to Ruth as "my sweet" I mean Da Larsman is a jealous soul who would gleefully pull one's head from it's mount to stuff where the sun doesn't shine. Makes it just a tad difficult to navigate, wouldn't you agree <uh oh>
Yeah, you're right about coins for one ‘n two dollar denominations of money. Get's one weighted down in a heartbeat, eh Americans just haven't adapted to coins larger than quarters - we rarely see half dollars anymore ‘n the experiments with dollar coins continues on ‘n on ‘ on . . . . When I was a kid we used to see half dollars ‘n "silver dollars" quite regularly. But that was t
Good Morning make that Evening everybody at the bar!
Cindy, please a cup of strong coffee and a plate of ham and eggs for me and a round for everybody. Leon, a large dark beer please, any kind will do, after all these problems getting in here, I need something to quench that thirst! It was not easy getting in here this morning, and I thought it was just me thumbing with the keys but I hear Jan had the same problem.
It's been one of those weeks and weekends! I started on my list of not so favorable things and people. Two Congress men, Rep. Sarbanes and Rep. Oxley ended up on the top (they sure cause a lot of work!) and then, of course, computers came second. I decided to change the motherboard in my PC to something a bit faster. In short, it didn't work and the old board didn't work as it came back in. I'm writing this at work on Sunday and will drop it off on my way to work on Monday morning.
Enough complaining. Being gone a week sure gives me a lot to read through, so I will try to make a quick summary and comment on just a few things in the happenings at the bar during the week.
Tom, I see Kalmbach through you a loop last weekend, but you got a free preview to one of their sites, what did you look at? Thank you for the free rounds during the week, unfortunately I couldn't use that much of it.
I read your trip report to Dallas. You were lucky to have such a prominent host who could get you a cab ride on the TRE. Unfortunately, your picture site now requires a password, but I enjoyed the pics you had in your post. I did ride the McKinney trolleys during a conference here in town. It was a great beer party all the way up and down McKinney Ave!
I really like your Alaska pictures! I had two sets to look at today, and they are all great!
That was some very fine articles on the Turbo Train. Thank you very much. It was really interesting to see the history and the operation of that train. I just wish I had paid a little bit more attention to it when I first came here, maybe then I could have been on one. Amtrak had one relic in traffic between NY and Hartford in the early 80's, I wonder what that was. No, it wasn't the Turbo, but some other "one-of-a-kind" train that was used as a car maybe behind an RDC. Does anyone know what I'm rambling about here?
Interesting summary of the NP as well. I wonder about the ration between passenger cars and freight cars. NP has approximately 1 in 100 according to your figures. Was this an average figure for the major roads, or how much did it differ from company to company?
And then you had a great story on the San Diego Trolley. I guess Herb Albert would have called it the "Tijuana Trolley" if he had still been around. When I saw how it has been expanded over the years, I understand why I see it in more and more places in San Diego every time I get down there. 100,900 riders on a weekday seems to be a lot of riders! It's almost like all inhabitants of my Tustin would ride with it daily! Do you have any feel for how that compares with other light rail systems? I know you said somewhere in an earlier post that light rail systems will not get enough riders to pay for themselves. I wonder what the costs are if 100,000 riders aren't enough.
As for the movie program, I think I saw Secondhand Lions once. Wasn't that the movie where the two old guys finally opened their wallets and bought a yacht and "parked" it in a pond on their land? From this week's program I think I will try to catch The Shadow Riders.
The "Press 1 for English" has me up in arms as well. Last week I saw the ABC TV channel with bad weather warnings in both English and Spanish!
Let me guess the USCG picture: is it from San Diego? I base my guess on the hills, they look kind of familiar and so does one of the hotels on the mainland.
Hills, yes they are ablaze out there. One of the fires is only 6 miles from my house, but luckily the wind shifted around 1AM so I think we can call it clear for now. I'm getting constant updates from my wife, but she sounds much calmer now than what she did last night.
Trolleyboy Rob, Welcome back! I remember you from my previous stint here at the bar. I hope to see more of your pictures and hear more of your tales. Byt the way, where are those "Reaper Express" pictures taken?
Jan, no I don't remember those tent outings in the military. I slept in a cave all the time. Well, it was really a very big hole in the mountain, with all the amenities you could wish for, except a window.
I liked the pictures of the Swedish MU's (or what they are called). They bring back memories from my childhood. I spent a couple of summers on the west coast, and the "Skandiapilen", an X8 (or Xo8 as they were called back then), came by every day. I also remember riding in a Yo1 a couple of times before the Y8 came (on the "Vodka" line past Horna). Those old rail buses were noisy! And the shook and rattled the whole trip. Did they have a "regular" transmission with a stick shift on the floor? I think I remember something like that, but I could be oh so wrong. The Y8 came in a version with a small first class compartment as well.
Wasn't there another set that looked almost like the X7, maybe the X6? I remember something like that from Malmö in my early days. Both the X6(?) and the X7 were used in commuter service, but in different parts of the country.
Next time you feel like your arms are just hanging useless straight down you need to get one of those super-geeky head gears with room for two cans and built-in straws! That will do for a nice conversation piece here at the bar!
Nice article on the Hiawathas! I had always though to "The Hiawatha" as just one train, but here you show five different trains. Oh, what we learn at "Our Place"! 100 mph for the steam engines must be a very impressive speed! That tells me that the top speed was higher at many times. I see the ventilation openings in the front. Those were there on the F diesels as well, weren't they, but by then they were just painted on.
Finally a couple of songs I can sing along to: City of New Orleans and Jonny Comes Marching Home!
Eric, It's amazing that all damage from the moose collision was just a crack in the plastic! Pretty sturdy stuff!
Don't make the trip to SoCal just for the Fullerton days, it may not be worth it. But there is always the San Diego museums and the trolley, the Campo museum, the Poway museum, Travel Town in LA, LA Live Steamers, the LA County Fairgrounds with the DD-40 and the Big Boy, a new trolley line in San Pedro, the LA Light Rail, and probably a few more things that I have forgotten right now. Oh yes, OERM! So there is always something to look at over there.
Thanks for clearing up the Dm3 question. I guess all previous pictures were taken in Gävle as well; I wondered were those were from.
Were the lollipops moved from one end to another when the engine changed direction, or were they a permanent A-end indication?
Thank you for the link to the Grand Canyon equipment. Somehow I had missed that. I was at their site, but couldn't fine it.
The figures on locomotive production are just unbelievable! That's an awful lot of locomotives in a 120 year timeframe.
I saw that CM3 has already confirmed what I suspected: that the Hetch Hetchy Railroad was built for the construction of the Hetch Hetchy Dam. There was a lot of ruckus about that dam some years back. I'm not sure if they destroyed it, or not, but it was close.
Hi Tom and all.
A round please RUTH to make up for my weekends absence and ROB's welcome return.
ERIC That is a great photo of the S1; it looks a powerful tank locomotive.
Many thanks for the links to the Streetcar #1053 and Railtown and the diesels, great info I had not got.
I remember being told the white car was used by the local doctor.
JAN Thanks for the kind words. I have a few more photos of the Streetcars and Cable cars from San Francisco. The offer of a drink for each photo is much appreciated, it will help to cut down the massive bar tab I have run up, if the tab got any larger I am sure Manager Lars would have me in the Mentor Village Mine working it off.
Great post on the ‘Hiawathas with great photos, it is a pity they did not run a high speed trial on a section of prepared track in good condition to see what speed a A of F7 could do.
I guess the Hogmany period would be a busy time for you at work. Loved the Scottish verse.
Talking of verses good choice of songs to accompany your bar cleaning, the track gang won't know the old place.
Congratulations on the ‘Regular' stool.
LARS I guess I was hoping too much that a Streetcar in Brooklyn colors would reduce my bar tab, still with kind offers from Jan and Tom I may be able to reduce it a bit.
I see in the link to the gas turbines there is a photo of a motor in the factory I worked at.
IT seems your encore of Rob's photos done the trick and got Rob back Very well done.
Liked the BK encore of the light railways.
Great bookcovers.
CM3 Thanks for the info on the PCC it was great to see the cars working in normal public service and in such great condition It really was great to be able to tour the shed at Railtown, It must have been a great atmosphere in there when #28 was brought in after the day's work was done, quietly simmering as the evening drew on. The bride tried to take some more photos in the shed but they did not turn out. I still have a couple though.
Very much looking forward to the Pre Tournament Parade report and what ATRIE is up to.
DL Looking forward to your reports of the films and that trip through the coal mining area, I guess on freight only lines.
ALLAN Thanks for the picture of Digswell Viaduct. It is still a bottleneck on the ECML today. Where four tracks have to go down to two.
I managed to see the England v South Africa match although not live. I could not understand why England was given a penalty when the try was disallowed, if it was a penalty surely it should have been a penalty try. The bride is starting to watch Rugby and I am trying to teach her the rules, not wishing to sound like a ‘Whinging Pom', I can say no more than, after the bride had watched replays of the disputed try the she said "That WAS a touchdown". Anyway all credit to the South Africans and England it was a good match.
That is a good point about the North Briton, I wonder if they wanted passengers to use the Midland route via the S&C to Glasgow instead of the East Coast route. I can remember a train in the seventies; I think it was, that ran fairly early morning from Leeds to Aberdeen via the East Coast.
ROB Really great to see you back, was it my photo of the Streetcar in San Fran that done it. Looking forward to some more trolley photos and details
TOM Many thanks for the kind words and for the relief on the IOUs.
As you say, it is great that The Mentor Village Gazette lives on in the pages of the old Our Place. Always good for a and many thanks for listing the pages on which the Gazette appears.
Good day Tom and all at the bar. Have a drink or two on me. I've been so busy lately, that I haven't had time to read my e-mail. The weather let up for a few days and now more severe weather has set in including tornado watches. My shop is about 100 feet from the house, so I haven't been there to work on the engine. It's a bit slow getting started, as I have to figure out innovative ways of making parts. The roof for example scales 18"high on the prototype and 2 ¼" on the model. Obviously, you wouldn't want to use wood 2 ¼" thick. Instead, it is made up of segments glued up to form an approximate shape, which will be further shaped using planes, chisels and sanding to get to the arched roof profile. The roof and the wheels are the most difficult parts to build. The rest is pretty straight forward and won't take that long.
BTW, today, I saw a program on TV that had film clips of the northeast railroads under steam during the 40's and 50's. They included the LV, D&H, NH, B&M, NYC, Erie, Reading, Lackawanna and some PRR branch lines. It was shown on the RFD network, channel 379. Some interesting footage, mostly amateur on 8 and 16mm film. They showed a LV 2101 streamliner pulling the John Wilkes. It was a pretty classy looking train. The films were compiled by http://www.markonevideos.com/ They also included some interesting engines such as camelbacks, electrics, diesels and a doodlebug.
Pete: I enjoyed the railcar photos at railtown. I don't think the picture of the trolley in San Francisco was from NYC. Most of their trolleys had an underground power feed and only the really old ones used an overhead pickup like in Brooklyn. San Francisco used to borrow them from cities all over to run during the spring/summer season as a tourist attraction.
Eric: Nice looking S-1's
Tom: I did some design work on the Hamilton class cutters a while back and recall they were state of the art at that time. The new cutters being built by Northrop Grumman are supposed to be the best ever, but I heard there are all sorts of problems cropping up and the government is very upset over it. After speaking with some of my old contacts, it seems that the newer crop of naval designers not only lack the shipbuilding experience, but really don't give a rat's a.. The old timer designers, learned how to build a ship right, unlike the new "computer operators". Northrop Grumman got rid of most of their experienced designers and replaced them with computer operators and engineers fresh out of school. Most of them never saw a ship up close. It will take many years before they gain the necessary experience. I used to ride the Blue line every day from Chula Vista to National City (NASSCO). You could ride without buying a ticket. If you were lucky, no one checked when you got off, but if they did, you were liable for the cost over the entire length of the line. I never tempted it.
Lars: Thanks for the turbine link. It was a great source of information. I enjoy all things technical. Nice coverage of the trolleys. Looks like they were painted for the 1776 centennial? Those are sure some beautiful trolleys from UK and down under.
Jan: Nice coverage of the Hiawatha's. I never got the chance to see them in action.
Tom: As always, nice pictures from your Alaska trip. Personally, I would rather see pictures of Alaska than to be there in person. It's just too far to travel. I could never understand why people would travel around the world to see the pyramids or Eiffel tower or any of the great wonders of the world. After all, how long can you look at the Sphinx? A few minutes at the most and it's all over. I really don't like to travel. Too much of a hassle catching planes and trains, checking in and checking out, finding a good restaurant, etc. It's always the last leg of a homeward bound trip that's the best for me. I guess you can call me a homebody. BTW, Sam Elliot is on my favorites list. My guess to where the CG picture was taken is Alameda, Ca.
Jan: You amaze me with your songs and poetry. You really have a talent for the spoken word. With you in attendance, we can probably dispense with the jukebox. New York City had elevated track also, but for mu trains not trolleys. They even had steam running on the elevated during the early days. If you can include monorails, you can include Seattle, Atlanta and Honolulu.
Rob: I'm also new to "Our Place", so glad to meet you. You may be the trolley connection we have been missing.
Per: I did think about drawings to sell, but I'm retired and want to stay that way. I have a comment about people who work for a living. They think working is rough. Just wait until you retire. I'm more busy now than when I was employed. Retirement is no easy job. My son has the tractor, but is still waiting to find an end dump trailer. They are not easy to find and Florida seems to be the best place to look for one. My brother-in-law lives in Tampa and is trying to find one.
The following is a short description of the man who practically single-handed, created the largest model railroad in the world.
The dream of the Great American Railway at Northlandz began
over 25 years ago as the Williams' first home was being built in 1972.
As builders would leave for the day Mr. Williams would escape to
the basement and begin erecting scenes for his new basement passion.
Mountain passes were erected complete with bridges and buildings.
Workers returning the next day, removed the new addition so they
could continue their work. Bruce kept building the nightly exhibits.
Thus was the beginning to a 24 year labor of love that has resulted in
the worlds' largest model railroad.
As developer, creator and artist behind Northlandz, Bruce Williams
Zaccagnino has added several new skills to a long list of
accomplishments. A concert musician, successful entrepreneur,
multi-award winning computer software game developer and publisher
(Perfect General, Solitaire's Journey), Mr. Williams has spent a lifetime
working at what he loves.
Northlandz is a 16 acre world class attraction developed by Mr.
Williams and his wife Jean. Included in this complex is a doll museum,
La Peep Doll House, a 5000 pipe theater pipe organ; Which Bruce
Williams plays) and art galleries throughout. The building is reflective
of the couples lifelong commitment to art, expression, and creativity.
In 1977, after Mr. Williams inspired a fourth addition to his Flemington
area home he was persuaded by friends to host an annual train show for
a local charity. The weekend show was soon attracting 1,500 visitors daily.
Several national television broadcasts as well as international T.V.
coverage by German, Swedish, and Japanese stations contributed to the
growing popularity. Thus born the idea for a year round attraction. Along
with the art, music and doll displays future additions including an outdoor
1/3 scale train are already planned by the couple who admittedly cannot
imagine doing anything else.
Mr. Williams was bestowed with the highest honor that is given by the
Hindu faith, the "Maan Patra". This honorarium was presented to Mr.
Williams in recognition of his 25 years of dedication to the creation of
Northlandz. It was awarded to Mr. Williams by Swami Jagadishswarandandji
at the Geeta Temple of Queens, NY in June, 1996 with thousands of worshipers
of the Hindu faith in attendance.
"This is what we do" says Mr. Williams, who along with his wife's steadfast
support works 365 days a year in pursuit of this accomplishment "If you can
create your own enthusiasm, you can do anything", he said, "If you maintain
that enthusiasm you can do it well".
If Ralph Waldo Emerson is correct in that "Nothing great can be achieved
without enthusiasm", then something spectacular has happened in Flemington.
The Great American Railway: A spectacular adventure on this 1 mile indoor tour through a miniature world. Up to 100 trains running daily, and 8 miles of track are just the beginning. 25 years went into sculpting 35 foot mountains and building 40 foot bridges. Marvel at the thousands of handcrafted buildings and over 10,000 freight cars.
Tour Length
1 Mile
Highest Mountain
30 feet(6,000 scale feet)
Longest Bridge
40 feet
Number of Bridges
300-400
Number of Trains
100+
Feet of Track
50,000(8 miles) Atlas Super-Flex track
Buildings
4,000+
Wood
Enough wood to build 42 large houses
52,000 square feet
Lichen Trees
500,000+
Good evening Leon hope 'm not keeping you up. It's afterwork for me so a Guiness will do fine , infact just hook it up intervenusly for me
Tom-Interesting six pack ! A nice new feature I'll need to go back and absorb the others.I'm actually all for the cashless society myself seems to be the right thing to do, therefore the polititions likely won't go for it oops he ducks your riled up language police didn't like that coment either.Funny that you mention the on again off again atempts to create dollar coins stateside , the reactions were the same up hear unfortunatly the government of teh day just told the mint to make them and stop printing our one an two dollar bills , this past year was actually the 15th anivrsary for the dollar coin ( dosn't seem all that long ago somehow )
I have to say that it's always sad to read about the ending of a ships time, but they can't last forever I suppose. I know that our Navy's way of disposing of them in the last 10 yeasr or so is to sink them relitivly shallowly and turn them into artificial reefs ( after cutting out all the internal doors and "greening" them up.
Per-Nice to talk to you again. That Reaper express is an old Toronto Civic railway double ended city car that was built in 1915. When the TCR was rolled into the TTC all the old wooden single truck cars were converted to work equipment. unually snowscrappers or rail grinders. In the Reapers case it was converted to a railgrinder for the Toronto subway system.Oddly enough we have three of those class of cars RT7 ( the Reaper ) W28 a surface railgrinder and #55 which we've converted back to it's original as built passenger format. the photo is at our museum in Ontario, The Halton County Radial Railway www.hcry.org if your interested in reading up more about us.
I hope the wild fires saty clear of you guys , frightening stuff
CM3-Good to talk to you buddy,I think I'm back for good can't keep a good trolley driver down
Jan-I think I'll break you guys in slowly, I've got lots 'o' trolley shots in stories to drop upon you.To give you a bit of why I have the trolley bug is simple. I've always been a train guy , model railroader ride the passenger stuff as often as I can. It helped that my great grandfather was a section man on the CNR so it's in the blood. I had a great uncle that was a mechanic for the NS&T which was a interurban / city electric railway system in my home town of St Catharines it also ran electric frieght service in the city and surounding area conected with steamboats to Toronto , just an all around travel system really. The closest the the Pacific Electric one got in Ontario. I met my wife almost eight yeasr ago now and she and her family had been streetcar people for yeasr members of the HCRY so they hooked me into their one to one scale hobby at the museum and the rest is as they say history.
Pete- Good day sir. I'd have to say it was an all around effort, but yes your traction pictures helped. It is nice to see that VIA's getting some much needed cash for equipment. Hopefully they sell all that Renisance crap.One will never know wheather or not their ontimes will improve. Unfortunatly CN is the king and VIA must march to their drummer.
DD1-yes I am the prodical long lost streetcar guy. As long as you like the traction we will get along fineMind you I do like a good steamer or diesel at the same time. As tom would say as long as it's steel wheels on steel rails you can't go to far wrong.
Leon another round if you don't mind
Cheers Rob
Here's alittle trolley tech story from the archives just to see if the creative juices still work
trolleyboy wrote: CLASSIC JUICE #38 THE NICOLS-LINTERN A JUICE TECH STORYOkay a new thread a new continuing story from the "classic" achives,actually this story is as written by our museum's master mechanic Gord McQuat a master of everything electrical and the guru of the technical from our musuem's volenteers. The Nichols-Lintern company emerged in 1892, being founded by one William Lintern.Shortly thereafter, the company incorporated and for many years supplied steam road and electric railway equipment,ranging from sanders and ventilators to streetcar taillights.Today based in Mentor, Ohio ( gotta love that name eh Tom ) the lintern company is a leading manufacurer of severe duty air conditioners.They also offer a line of traffic signals and industrial signal lights. The two lamp devise I'm speaking of was manufactured in Canada under license, by Dominion Steel Foundries of Toronto and was used on city streetcars throughout Canada, and to a lessor degree in the USA.The TTC made extensive use of this type of tailight on the majority of it's cars and on most of their work equipment.The former "TR" wooden streetcars sent to Ouebec City Ottawa and Fort william by the TTC during WW2 caried this eqiuipment to those roads and several other Canadian systems also made wide spread use of them, notably the NS&T,Hamilton Street Railway,Ottawa Elelctric railway, and the "80" series Witt cars on the Edmonton Radial Railway. The primary function of the two lamp "NL" taillight, was to give following streetcarsan indication as to the movement of the streetcar ahead throuhg a display of red and green lights.This was found to assist in maintaining headways and reducing accidents. The unit consisted of two cast portions. The back housing contained to hexagonal,medium base,lamp holders and was nstalled aprtially recessed, in a rectangular cutout in the cars dasherboard. The outer portion was sloped at the top toshed snow and sleet,normally they contained two Corning four inch diameter optical glass lens red on the right green on the left.Some were convex some were flat depending on when they were made. The TTC did have some varients, notably on the 409-416 series suburban cars ( 416 currently undergoing full restoration at the museum )these cars were obtained from the Hydro-Electric Power Commision and being double ended and having Westinghouse Electric HL controls, with type 806 switch groups, they featured the standard two lamp fixture on each end,in later yeasr these were changed to double red lights.Both lamps lit to the rear of the car when the reverser was thrown. Normal usage of the lights on the TTC's Witt's and TR cars had the lights only on the rear as they were both single ended cars.When the brakes are engaged the red light is on, when the car is in motion the green light displays. On the 409's with them being double ended tthe aspects were both red for braking as once the cars reached the end of their runs, the operator would change ends and change poles and head back from whence he came so double red for braking was all te aspect they needed to display.Rob
CLASSIC JUICE #38 THE NICOLS-LINTERN A JUICE TECH STORY
Okay a new thread a new continuing story from the "classic" achives,actually this story is as written by our museum's master mechanic Gord McQuat a master of everything electrical and the guru of the technical from our musuem's volenteers.
The Nichols-Lintern company emerged in 1892, being founded by one William Lintern.Shortly thereafter, the company incorporated and for many years supplied steam road and electric railway equipment,ranging from sanders and ventilators to streetcar taillights.Today based in Mentor, Ohio ( gotta love that name eh Tom ) the lintern company is a leading manufacurer of severe duty air conditioners.They also offer a line of traffic signals and industrial signal lights.
The two lamp devise I'm speaking of was manufactured in Canada under license, by Dominion Steel Foundries of Toronto and was used on city streetcars throughout Canada, and to a lessor degree in the USA.The TTC made extensive use of this type of tailight on the majority of it's cars and on most of their work equipment.The former "TR" wooden streetcars sent to Ouebec City Ottawa and Fort william by the TTC during WW2 caried this eqiuipment to those roads and several other Canadian systems also made wide spread use of them, notably the NS&T,Hamilton Street Railway,Ottawa Elelctric railway, and the "80" series Witt cars on the Edmonton Radial Railway.
The primary function of the two lamp "NL" taillight, was to give following streetcarsan indication as to the movement of the streetcar ahead throuhg a display of red and green lights.This was found to assist in maintaining headways and reducing accidents.
The unit consisted of two cast portions. The back housing contained to hexagonal,medium base,lamp holders and was nstalled aprtially recessed, in a rectangular cutout in the cars dasherboard. The outer portion was sloped at the top toshed snow and sleet,normally they contained two Corning four inch diameter optical glass lens red on the right green on the left.Some were convex some were flat depending on when they were made.
The TTC did have some varients, notably on the 409-416 series suburban cars ( 416 currently undergoing full restoration at the museum )these cars were obtained from the Hydro-Electric Power Commision and being double ended and having Westinghouse Electric HL controls, with type 806 switch groups, they featured the standard two lamp fixture on each end,in later yeasr these were changed to double red lights.Both lamps lit to the rear of the car when the reverser was thrown. Normal usage of the lights on the TTC's Witt's and TR cars had the lights only on the rear as they were both single ended cars.When the brakes are engaged the red light is on, when the car is in motion the green light displays. On the 409's with them being double ended tthe aspects were both red for braking as once the cars reached the end of their runs, the operator would change ends and change poles and head back from whence he came so double red for braking was all te aspect they needed to display.
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, a triple Cheese burger, please! Curly fries and a super sized Root Beer!
Wow, a lot of stuff to read and look at. Haven't been here since very early Saturday morning. I noticed that Tom and Pete are traveling the rails today!
Tom – Pacific Electric #418 (the Blimp) is what you saw in that picture from December last. year. In service 1913-1961. Same car below.Alaska! Beautiful views and spotless cars! It is amazing how clean those cars are. I guess they were very clean inside as well. Ahh, one of my favorite Westerns on the Emporium this week, The Shadow Riders! That movie alone will make me come to the theatre this week!Nice picture of the Cutters! But no Cutter Hamilton in the picture. Also a nice picture of the GG1 with a train even though it is running through snow!I like tose old posters/ads! Especially the Burlington Route and PRR’s GG1!JanOlov – Thanks for the Hiawatha info! And pictures! One of the few streamlined steam engines that I like! I wonder how fast those trains actually were running? I have seen different numbers but the fastest ones were not confirmed. Thanks for the lyrics to all those songs! Nice SP pictures! You can see the big disadvantage with steam locos, all the smoke!Lars – Thanks for re-posting Rob’s post from last year! Kind of a story about happy ending for those PCC’s. Gone for 13 years and then back again, better than ever! Nice pictures of light rail from UK and Australia! In December next year a new light rail line will open here in Phoenix!
Phoenix light rail.
Nice AARR pictures on the DVD cases! And the book cover! Allan – Thanks for the link! I agree, that viaduct looks like a much closer match to Tom’s poster. That is probably th right one!Rob – Good to see you again, Sir, railroaded or not! Have you ever considered bullet proof windows in your bedroom? The Reaper Express car seems to be in need of some work, Halloween or not! Considering coming to the Rendezvous next May?!!! That is good news! Hope you can make it! It is only 205 days until it starts. Interesting to read about the streetcar tail lights! I have never seen any green light though. CM3 – I agree, I am glad Boston made it to the World Series!Per – No, X6 does not look like X7. X6 was a kind of prototype for Stockholm’s commuter trains, class X1. You are probably thinking about X4. It looked a little bit like X7. Sorry, but I don’t have any picture of it.The lollipops were not moved from one end to the other, they were permanent. I have been to LA County Fairgrounds and to OERM. At this moment I don’t have anytihng planned for California. I love that Control Tower! Very good!Pete – Hope you and Tom will have a great day today! Ron – Good to see you again! Read your comments to Tom, that you don’t like to travel! I guess I am kind of the opposite, I like to travel and I love to take the car and drive long distances. Which was perfect when I worked as a truck driver. Thanks for the story about Bruce Williams Zaccagnino! I have seen pictures of that model railroad and it certainly is something else!
Eric
Fill up the coffee mugs - grab a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case 'n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast . . . that's the way to start this Tuesday!
So good to see the turnout after it appeared we were going to be in the doldrums thanx in large part to the sign-in problems a few have been experiencing!!!
Not very much time to chat, so let me simply recognize CM3 Shane - Pete - Per - Ron - Rob ‘n Eric for helping to keep the ship afloat! I'll address your specific comments later . . .
Gotta get a move on - meeting Pete aboard the train in a few hours!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Auf Wiedersehen!
Greetings Tom and gentlemen....
Barkeep, a round of your finest brewage for the laddies, please! Oh dear....storms brewing on every frontier I see....tsk...tsk....gets a distant look in his face....
I see the that we've had a few travellers today at our sanctum..... I hope that all are well and dandy....
Aaahh.....thank you kindly....here's a few $$$$ for yourself...and some $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer too.....
Walks over to his chair.....but stops at the window and looks out in the distance....
"To fear death, my friends, is only to think ourselves wise, without being wise: for it is to think that we know what we do not know. For anything that men can tell, death may be the greatest good that can happen to them: but they fear it as if they knew quite well that it was the greatest of evils. And what is this but that shameful ignorance of thinking that we know what we do not know?"
Gets to his chair in sits down....
A bacon sarnie and a cup of your famous coffee please RUTH.
Off in a bit to meet TOM at the Amtrak staion for a trip to Kansas City, I will catch up on the posts this evening(Amtrak willing). I though I would drop off a couple of pics of an interesting locomotive at the Railtown 1897 museum
The tender is for one of the locomotives in the shed being renovated.
This pic shows part of the marvellous original roundhouse at the museum.
These should enlarge.
Pete.
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Wild morning today as the powers that be wanted me in two places at the same time. Boris, put the axe down, I didn't mean it that way! Jeez! He is so literal! We are having rain showers here today, fall colors are really getting pretty, and gas is $2.89/gal.
OSP asked me to stop by this afternoon - so this has worked out pretty well.
Let's see what's been happening; in no particular order.
Jan visited with a fine historical sketch of the Hiawatha and some excellent vintage 4-4-2s in pictures. Then he sent some SP material. Enlarge the picture of SP 2785 and look at the tender. That was clearly the place to be that day. The Greater Mentor Street Sweeping and Sipping Society sent our reporter a note that you had been promoted and also cleaned up Our Place before the tournament. Our reporter is, indeed impressed. He hopes, however, that you did a preshift on the FEL in the garage out back - you'll need it, the way things go at tournament time. The mascots may have drunk all of the hydraulic fluid, so make sure you check the levels.
There was a lot of elevated track in Boston. I remember it very well including riding PCC cars on some portions. Come to the rendezvous and see pictures of the structure and the trains. I took most of these 35+ yrs ago. Most of it is pretty well gone as a result of the Money Pit (excuse me, Big Dig) project. Heading to the Crossroads? Be careful, son - watch out for a guy in a white suit who talks a good game.
Lars - Since we don't have many awards anymore, you'll have to settle for me promoting you to Furnace Man First Class; your choice from the bar, my friend. Thanks for the trolley pictures and your well-stated introduction. Went to visit the bookmobile and saw all kinds of Alaska-related material. That first Pentrex offering looks like a possibility.
Eric stopped by with comments - we're going to what my neighbor up home used to call the "World's Serious." He was ancient when I was coming up, but I used to like to hear his stories dating back to pre and immediate post World War I days with the Red Sox. He's about the only guy I ever talked with who remembered Smoky Joe Wood, and also seeing Babe Ruth pitch when he played for the Red Sox. His stories checked out, too.
Allan stopped by - Good to hear from you.
Per visited with wide-ranging comments.
Pete - Excellent Sierra material.
DD1 visited as well. The Lehigh Valley was a well-kept secret regarding its passenger business. Late in the game, you could board a LV train at Penn Station and ride for awhile into Jersey where the G was cut off and LV power was added - PAs as a matter of fact. IIRC, much of where this occurred was transformed beyond recognition when the Aldene Plan became a reality. Boris, strap on your brogans and get the lantern - we must go to the LV vault and see if we can find some pictures. I enjoyed your summary of the Northlands, too. IIRC, there is DVD about it.
Rob's digging in already - glad to have you back, as I said yesterday.
OSP has been sending along material and keeping the shiny side up around here. San Diego trolley story and Alaska pictures - busy, busy, busy. Two good features at the Theatuh this week along with a season-appropriate Stooges short. I also enjoyed the vintage shot of the Campbell.
The 6-pack of posters was a good choice. The New Haven cut appeared on their timetables back when the electrification was relatively new. They wanted to showcase how they were on the cutting edge of modern technology. Thanks for putting that one in the collection.
I will try and stop by tomorrow, but it looks as though it's gonna be another crazy one already.
Ruth my deAH, ‘tis I the Larsman visiting in the AFTERNOON while Cap'n Tom ‘n Wolfman Pete are away riding the rails! CHEERS to them both as they ENJOY their round trip to Kansas City, Missouri . . .
I see Boris is looking a bit confused <which isn't anything NEW!!> so let's get him a LARGE jar of PPF - but only after he feeds the crittAHs. You remember "how" - a tray o' seeds for Awk - a saucer of brine for Tex - a bucket o' ice cubes for Frostbite - a chew bone for Juneau AND a field mouse for Artie <but take him outback for THAT!>
A round for the house my deAH ‘n I'll take a Larsman special - hero sandwich of ham ‘n Swiss with mustAHd ‘n buttAH ‘n two large extra crunchy pickles from the barrel. Ummmmmm. Keep the change my sweet! <blush>
CHEERS to all who have frequented the joint this day - I'm on a very tight string of late, so let me get to what you've been waiting for!!
What's this!?!!? Someone in competition for the affections of My Fair Lady - Ruth!?!?!!? <grrrrrrrrrr> Treading on very thin ice up there in Ontario - very thin!! <grrrrrrrrr>
British Railways Reflections - The Glory of Steam
British Railway Stations in Colour
Great Britain's Express Steam Locomotives
ABC British Railways Atlas - 3rd ed.
The A to Z of Steam Railway (DVD)
Ellis' British Railway Encyclopedia
Good evening Captaisn Tom and all present!
Hello Leon, a ham sandwich would be great. Coffee, please.
I am just having a short break so I won't be long. I'll be back later. Just wanted to show two of my favorite coffee mugs, classic in their own way.
Good evening again all present!
Leon, it was a good ham sandwich I had earlier! Now I just want a cup of coffee and a Chocolate Cobbler! Thank you!
A very quiet afternoon and evening! But a lot of noise from the tent in the back. The October Fest seems to go on 24/7!
Tom – Hope you found Stealthy Pete and your trip was a good one!JanOlov – I am not sure what you are talking about?Pete – Indeed a strange locomotive in your pictures. A saddle tank with a tender! To me it seems like that tender is coming from a different locomotive. Ahh, that is exactly what you wrote! That is me, looking at the pictures first and then read the text. CM3 – You better come this way to fill up the gas tank, $2.59/gal.You obviously used to have a very interesting friend from the old times. As a kid I loved to listen to old folk. Heard a lot of stories, some more true than others. Lars – Wow, I guess you are upset and or worried! I heard that Ruth love to ride streetcars! Nice book covers from the U.K. All those locomotives look very British! Ellis’ British Railway Encyclopaedia looks very interesting! Would love to get hold on one of those.
Finally a picture for Rob.
A streetcar from Kyoto, Japan, in Tucson, AZ.
Good evening Leon just a small wee guiness for me this evening.Figured that I would pop in just to make sure the extra shelac was removed from my stool,darn near broke my neck on it , it was sooo slippery yesterday.
Lars- Another fine addition from teh larsmobile , no worries Ruth and I are just friends
Eric-
Nice photo's from Phoenix thanks I can't say that a like the looks of teh new type of light rail cars but hey at least they are electrics The Japanease car looks similar to double trucked double ended Birney cars ( if it wearn't for the pans ) nice restoration job however. I'm assuming it's a charter piece of equipment they keep running for high days and speacial events.
Pete-Interesting looking locomotive , not the most attractive thing on steel rails , but what the heck.Nice to see the old rail buildings preserved and in fairly decent shape.I do hope that you and Tom had another pleasant trip , free from too many slow downs and delays.
Well Leon another for the road catch everyone later.
A couple pics of two of our museum's cars when they were still in service.
Crane car C2 at the TTC's Hillcrest shops ( museum actually owns sister C1 ) both were built in House by the Toronto Railway Company ( one of the TTC's predessesor roads ) in 1912
Small Peter Witt 2786 seen in 1954. Built in 1923 by The Ottawa Car Co. One of 50 ordered in 1923 by the then new TTC
enjoy Rob
Wednesday's Witticism
Stay shy of a man who's all gurgle ‘n no guts.
Wednesday once again here at the Saloon by the Siding - Bar by the Ballast - Watering Hole by the Wayside - Tavern by the Tracks!!
Join us to start this day with a <light> or <traditional> breakfast along with pastries from The Mentor Village Baker ‘n of course our freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee!
And a wondeful time was had by Pete 'n Moi as we traversed the right-of-way to 'n from KCity, MO aboard AMTRAK! Pix 'n report will follow . . .
Final OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place this Saturday at noon!
<NOTE: These are simply recognitions of visits by our customers. More specific comments later on . . . >
Monday - 22 Oct 2007:
Jan (JanOlov) at 6:51 AM & 7:22 AM
. . . Lars (LoveDomes at 9:40 AM
. . . . . . Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:24 AM
. . . . . . . . . Jan (JanOlov) at 11:12 AM
. . . . . . . . . . . . CM3 (coalminer3) at 2:26 PM
Per (marthastrainyard) at 5:54 PM
. . .Pete (pwolfe) at 8:35 PM
. . . . . . Ron (DD1) at 9:45 PM
. . . . . . . . . Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:36 PM & 11:44 PM:
Tuesday - 23 Oct 2007:
<SPECIAL RECOGNITION to all who answered the call for HELP while Pete 'n Moi were riding the rails on Tuesday! The REGULARS of "Our" Place came through once again! THANX!!>
Eric (EricX2000) at 12:45 AM
. . . Jan (JanOlov) at 8:35 AM
. . . . . . CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 12:53 PM
. . . . . . . . . Lars (LoveDomes) at 3:29 PM
. . . . . . . . . . . . Eric (EricX2000) at 5:52 PM & 11:35 PM
Wednesday - 24 Oct 2007:
Rob (trolleyboy) at 12:33 AM & 12:52 AM
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often! C
TOMORROW beings the Dart's Challenge & Grudge Match tournament against the goons from the 2nd Class Saloon! "Bring 'em on!!!!" <grrrrrrrrrrrrr>
Ruth my deAH, you are looking sooooooooo radiant ‘n lovely that methinks we should get going on that <ahem> admin business STRAIGHT AWAY <as our Brit friends would say!!> Ok, ok - a bit later then! <blush>
A round for the house - treats for the crittAHS - a mugga Joe with a jolt for me ‘n the change is for YOU! Oh yes, a small jar of PPF for Boris, once he feeds the gang that is! <grin>
Nice support for the place from the "regulars" yesterday. Wudda thought that at least one of the other guys could've made mustAH . . . Da Bossman doesn't ask that often! <geesh> But many THANKS to the dependables ‘round here!!!
Looking forward to the pix ‘n "stuff" from Da Bossman about the trp to Kansas City with Wolfman Pete! Won't even wager a guess about any pix from Pete - probably either broke his camera, forgot his camera, didn't recharge his camera or simply forgot he had his camera!! <grin> Any of those ‘work' for ya, mate???
For Rob! Upset is <mildly putting it!!> I bettAH NOT find Ruth riding street cars in Canada!! We're talking about making YOU a sea anchor, matey!! <arrrrrrrggggggghhhhhh> I think Eric is trying to start something . . . . <uh oh>
Good to see that you are back in full form once again . . . been a looooooooong time.
For Eric! Nice mugs - bet those are worth "something" to those who collect. <sweet>
From the other day: Liked the light rail vehicle for (from) Phoenix. Didn't we discuss this not that far back?? Anyway, keep us posted on what's going on . . . would like to know more!
For Shane! I'm all choked up - FURNACE MAN 1st CLASS! <wow> <gasp> <golly-gee> <gosh> <shucks> What's to say other than thanks for the honor <??> Hmmmmm, doesn't "face" somehow fit in with that??? Hmmmmm. I think I'm getting insulted!! Not sure though . . .
For Pete! Nice "foursome" B4 heading off to rendezvous with Da Bossman!
For Jan! Just a brief visit, but it "counts" just the same! Thanks for the support . . .
<uh oh> I'm being summoned called . . . gotta cut this short . . . so I'll try to get back later or certainly tomorrow!!! Hold your fire Mrs. - I'm on the way! <geesh> She gets this way as the end of October approaches. Halloween jitters 'n all that - flying solo on that broom frightens her - even with the "lightning arrestor" I put on! <grin>
Ah, the arrival of the Larsman Mobile brings some MORE Brit book covers!
LNER Tank Locomotives 1948-68
Locomotive Headboards - The Complete Story
LNER Six-Coupled Tender Locomotives 1948-68
Diesel Decade, The 1980s
Main Line Lament
Highland Railway Liveries
Ruth, I'
Morning Ruth , your looking ravashing as ever. I'll have the spkied OJ and a number three for old times sake Justa quick eek in before I'm off to the drudgery of the day.
Tom- I'm looking forward to the tales of your latest tour "d'Amtrak" ( an attempt at culture and humour at the same time )Though from what you've told me train rides with Pete are generally not without good times and or a story or three. So hopefully that big yellow guargantuan ( UP ) allowed your trip to progress as planned. I'll get some thoughts together on our east coast trip and run on The Ocean,I still have to process the pictures over, one of the many projects I still have in the works.
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