Hello Tom
Looks like Nick has been about so I'll see what he's put on the menu - and have a pint of Holdens' whilst waiting. Pete, Codsall station has a good reputation so it would be good to visit. Way out beyond Wolverhampton as I recall.
Yes Tom - I had basically covered up to page 174 but saw your encore RR covers on 175 and it was that I refereed to as I glanced over that page prior to posting.
I had a great fear that the link would do a wide page so thought I'd minimised it - clearly not so - apols about that. Thought our underground enthusiasts would enjoy the article.
Anyway good timing with your N&W feature - there's a good photo spread on last days of N&W steam in the current edition of Classic Trains (may be you chaps across the pond have not got it yet...)
MoPac Chris - good to make your acquaintance of course. Nice pic selection.
Jan - another all inclusive post!
Mike - interesting selection of vintage military pictures, then a full on text posting! Kind of alters your silent link man reputation I've got so used to! Either way - interesting stuff.
Eric - good to see you back on form!
Nick - good to see you in again, afraid whilst I'll proffer opinions on this and that - sport's not one of them. Explains why I can't understand most of Lars' posts too (I jest) - juts enjoy ‘em as I soak up the atmosphere of our straight talkin' manager.
Pete - few points you made I'll comment on but I realise I'm running out of time (again!!) so will be back in due course (not least on those GCR Barnums as a result of my GCR trip)
Regards to all
DL
Good afternoon Ruth my dear , I see that even more fresh posey's have arrived for you from the southern climes. Lets' hope that H&H and kopperkettle don't try and make a hearty stew out of the older wilted one's. I think a nice large thermos of the BK speacial roast ,. but the high octane version will work today for me.Another band of snow's moved in so we might actually get the full amount we weer promised about a foot if all is going the way of the weatherguessers.
Tom-A fine shot of the Arm's sir yes I think pete may decide to transplant himself should he ever make it in for a meal and a beverage was wondering too if Juneau was nibbling on Pete's arm in that picture as well.Great as always chatting with you this morning
Interesting to hear that the frist ACR diesels you saw were in the mountains,it really is a grang paint scheme too bad all have long been repainted, through the two takeovers first by the WC abd now in the CN. Still the passenger trains still run with the domes intact at least on train #1 the Agawa Canyon. Both the domes are old WP one's but they are well cared for. If their ticketing practices are the same,when you pay for the dome fare you get half the trip up top and half in the lower seating areas.
Of note Rapido has just come out with some lovely ACR passenger cars in today's black bear scheme If you feel the need for the locomotives I can get my hands on one for you.
Cm3-Great remenicances of the final days of N&W steam. I know how I'd pronounce Matewan ( Mat-ta-wan)but hey doesn't matter stuill a good read. It was an interesting detail those loading ramps
Dl-Yes the underground article was an interesting read,interestingly I didn't get the wide screen effect,usually I don't unless someone posts a huge picture.
Well Ruth I think another round for the boys, and then I'm off for a bit.
Rob
Good day Tom and all present at the bar. A round of drinks if you please. Wow! Things seem to be heating up at Our place. I hope I can keep up. First off, let me express my appreciation of your acceptance of my yearly events calendar. I think it is the basis for presenting new topics to explore. We all have different interests(and some similar ones), and the events calendar, gives us a chance to expand on them. That said, let me go to individual replies in no particular order.
Dan: It seems a lot of interest was expressed by the "railplane" by you and others. Notice the similarity to a Jules Verne machine. Maybe it was Jules Verne who was the inspiration behind the "railplane". I'm sure there is more to the story.
Mike: I think the pictures of the 569 th Engineer Co, was a welcome change of pace(even if off topic). Anything to do with our military is always welcome. That 57 Chevy was a common vehicle all around the world. When I was in Chile years back, they and many other old cars were common on the roads, due to economic conditions. I have watched TV programs that show modern day Cuba. You will see American cars everywhere, but dating back to the 40's and 50's. and even the 30's. If we ever establish relations with Cuba, imagine the fortune in antique and classic cars that will hit the market. I noted from an entry on the pullman train schedule of a rail time between Boston and N.Y.C. of 5 ¾ hours. I used to drive that route every weekend for four years. My best time was 3 ½ hours door-to-door in a VW Karmann Ghia and never got a ticket. The distance was about 210 miles.
Pete: I recall somewhere that a hot fireplace poker would be plunged into a pint of ale to take the nip off it. Do you know where this was done? BTW, I use all fingers to type, but one finger at a time. I hear what you are saying about taking pictures of "everyday" things and events. It's just a lack of hindsight. I wish I had documented all along the Mississippi Gulf Coast BEFORE Katrina wiped it out. The "after" pictures really don't say much unless you have a "before" to compare it to. I saw a program on TV about two guys, one in the U.S. and the other in the U.K. who collect and restore military tanks. (History channel) Between them, they have over 400 tanks. Naturally, they are multi-millionaires. Too bad there isn't a millionaire around who has the same passion for old locomotives.
Eric: I remember seeing the Ringling Bros Barnum and Bailey circus train when it would visit N.Y.C. The train would park at a siding on the west side of Manhattan and a parade of wagons and elephants would head uptown to Madison Square Garden. In those days, I had press privileges through connections my Dad had with the newspapers. This would allow me to go behind the scenes and to view the circus from the press box. I might add, I was very popular with my friends, as they got to see the circus with me. Your picture of the truck unloading the wagons, brings back images of "Mack" trucks as used by the Railway Express Agency in the 30's and 40's. They rode on hard rubber tires and were chain driven. The cabs were open as shown in your picture and side curtains could be inserted in inclement weather. I can still hear the chain rattling and the bumping of the tires along cobblestone streets.
Rob: You are right about "rivet counters". They are missing half the fun. That was an interesting item re: the indoor turntable at Sault Ste Marie. Never gave it much thought. Maybe they did it that way because of the cold and freezing weather that might make an outdoor turntable in operable. I read that the magnets were unreliable on early stud systems. Either they have designed magnets which are reliable, or they are using a non-contact sensor, (infrared, proximity, etc). Anyway, I have learned that there is a prototype for everything. I tried to track down the trolleys from P.E.I. which were sold to Chile, but came up zip so far.
That's about it for now. Tom: Keep warm and enjoy the snow while it's around. Arthritic hands are a bummer when trying to build model trains. That's a good argument for out-of-the-box, ready to run trains. I think it's the damp, cold weather when arthritis seems to be worse. In my case, it was cateracts that prompted me to switch from HO to G. Although the cateracts have been removed, a mild "tremor" in the hands precludes me from doing very fine, intricate work. Working in 1:8 scale is much easier for me.
Remember: Stay loose, but if you can't, there's always exlax.
Hey Ruth aftrenoon again. I think I'm sufficiantly warmed up to be able to take a pistrami on rye witha Keith's now,thank-you. Please keep the change.
Ron-Nice to see you pop in again this afternoon. You are right your little calenders have given us all some great tidbits of info to kick around , always great to learn something new when you log into the forum.5x for the hard work as I know that preparing works like that don't happen in two minutes. Those sold deisels would have been from Newfoundland, EMD built by GMD Canada, they wiould have been models G8 ,G12 ,or NF110's or NF210's.
That roundhouse was built that way for exactly the reason's you were thinking.Too many freeze-ups on airlines or human freeze-ups on the people or animal powered one's. theer's another in Northern Ontario on the CN at Capreol I think. It's still used today as well,temps can hit the -40's F where they are so it's a necessity.A tad too cold for me
There really aer a ton of old cars in cuba,mind you theer aer alot of modern Eurpoean cars there too it's a two sided street,what they can't buy in one place they will buy from others. i've been to Cuba once had a heck of a good time, the people were really freindly. I was amazed at how many American's were there,I sat with a bunch of them on the flight from Toronto.
Lots of lovely old steam engines on the Island as well , many are narrow guagers working ion the plantations.
G'day Gents!
Great to see visits from CM3 Shane - Rob - Dan 'n Ron on this Friday! I'll hold off comments 'til the 'morrow's ACKNOWLEDGMENTS . . .
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Six Pack Special Number Nine
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
Pennsylvania RR - New York
Midnight Zephyr
Rock Island
Santa Fe
Union Pacific - Geysers
Milwaukee Road - Power
Enjoy!
See ya on tomorrow for ENCORE 'n Photo Posting Saturday!
Tom
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<Huff puff huff gasp thump > Wow just got in from shovelling , I just may invest in a snowblower for next winter ,I'm "plum tuckered" as they may still say in the south.I think leon a rather large guiness oh what the heck a BK splash to chase it with as well.Still comming down a bit out there but it's not all bad, I think only about half a foot but it was that hard sticky snowman snow I prefer the light fluffy stuff mind you it's sticking to all the trees houses people and cars so everythings nice n white, just like a good christmas card.
Yo Tom -gra t postah's sir
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, Friday night, let's have that juicy Filet Mignon I love. And lots of mushrooms! A cold Keith's, please.
This week went fast. New month and Super Bowl on Sunday. But a Super Bowl without the Packers is not a real Super Bowl.
Nick – Room 101? You must be kidding. I thought it was 103! Rob – Is Zeplin One available? I thought it was grounded for maintenance? Out of helium or something. I like the Algoma Central livery! Very good photos!Tom – I saw the snow in St. Louis today! I think it was CNN who had a guy close to the Arch showing all that white stuff. Glad it wasn’t Phoenix. 103 days to Our Place’s 3rd Annual Rendezvous! I am going to look for the remaining photos from the Circus World Museum this weekend!Nice ads! The best ones in my opnion, Santa Fe’s The Chief Way and Rock Island!
I wonder about the Midnight Zephyr ad. Why did they call it Midnight Zephyr 2000? Very futuristic design. Could it be a try to advertise Midnight Zephyr as the train of the future? Something like X2000? CM3 – I know the law of WalMart. It has happened to me too many times. My wife goes there almost every weekend, but I can’t stand it. Interesting background and info on Matewan! DL – Thanks, I feel great! Back to normal in other words. Ron – Must have been something else to see the “real” thing. The circus train unloading all the equipment and animals. I have only seen when they have been loading those flatcars. An unknown steam locomotive, Boone, IA, several years ago.
Eric
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This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
A beautiful blue sky morning here in mid-continent USA where the temps are expected to rise, melt all this wonderful white stuff ‘n put us in the slop by the ‘morrow. <ugh>
Join us for a mugga Joe, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast listed on our Menu Board!
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Page 177 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:58 AM: Ahhh, some clarification is in order regarding that foto of Pete ‘n Juneau . . . Juneau has one of his stuffed animal toys in his mouth. As is his "way," he "thrusts" it in your direction, wanting to play "tug," of course. This is what Pete is engaged in doing . . . Does appear as if Juneau has devoured Pete's arm! <yikes>
"Old people's MTV (weather channel)" comment cracked me up! <swg>
Pleased to see that you reconsidered ‘n provided the crew with your rundown of the current Classic Trains issue . . . Mine has NOT arrived yet; but what's new I never get ‘em early . . .
Movie, "Matewan" was shown at the Emporium during the week of Jan 28th - Feb 3rd, 2007 - seems just like yesterday! Anyway, you are correct, it IS a <keeper> ‘n one that should be viewed.
Let's GO GIANTS! <grin> But, I still say the Patriots will remain undefeated - not my wish, just where the "money" is. <uh oh> Sorry Larsman! <grin>
A fine Post capped off with your ROUND ‘n quarters for Herr Wurltizter!
Page 178 - Dan (DL-UK) at 12:27 PM: In for a mid-day visit <here> - but the end of it for you, eh Anyway, appreciate the patronage.
Can't speak for ALL of the U.S. or Canada, but sports talk is a "big thing" in ‘n out of the bar scene. In the U.S. we're rather seasonal - right now hockey is about to supplant football once the Super Bowl is played. Then comes baseball with its interminably long, long season. Basketball seems to be in the "back ground" through the early fall - late spring. Just the pre-occupation of it all.
Of course the talk these days <daze> is POLITICS - however, in keeping with what we try to AVOID at the bar - that's a "no no" subject - ‘n rightfully it should be. Refraining from religious, political or otherwise "hot button" subjects is not healthy for our bar. So, we avoid ‘em . . . Didn't need to be "told" by our hall monitors either, kinda set up "Our" Place that way. <grin>
Only suggestion I can offer regarding the use of URLs that extend far over the "limit" is to avoid ‘em. If they can't be reduced to one line, then some ‘puters are just going to be adversely impacted. Perhaps just the "generic site" could be used - with some guidance to "click this or that" might helpful . . .
Anyway, thanx for the chat ‘n visit!
Page 178 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 1:09 PM ‘n 1:55 PM: Timing couldn't have been better for your fone call. I no sooner got thru the doorway when the fone rang ‘n there you were! Spent a bit of time outdoors clearing our mile long driveway ‘n attendant sidewalks <really not that long, but it seems so!> of the 8" snow fall. Surely glad there's a MoSheen ‘round the joint to do the heavy work - I'm outta that business these times with "old man" problems . . . Anyway, it's wonderful out there ‘n I expect to be out more than in for this day. Juneau wouldn't have it any other way! <grin>
Great talking with you ‘n appreciate the call!
Hi Tom and all.
A cup of your famous coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.
TOM. Sorry I missed the bar yesterday, I had a stinky head which got worse as the went on.
I bet Juneau is really enjoying the snow; I think you got a lot more than we did here. We had a couple of inches or so I think most of it passed over us here and it really did not start the heavy snow in until about 6PM, we walked home after it had stopped.
Really enjoying the ‘Patron's Pix' series, it is great to see those photos of Rob's of the classic trolleys and work cars, I see my old favorite No 327 as made an appearance.
Yes it would be great to go to The St George Arms, it would be easier to get me in there than to get me out I think.
I could not spot the bell on 2253,I agree it is a fine looking locomotive, I got to wonder if those locos worked any passenger trains while they were in Britain, they did work a fair bit of freight before going to mainland Europe.
The TrainWreck saloon sounds a great place for a Can-Am review. Love the photo of Juneau and I, (yes still got the arm). I think the train I was supposed to be watching is just coming over the bridge.
Many thanks for the RR ads from the Classic Era. The artwork on them is remarkable, like the painting on the Santa Fe Chief that and the PRR New York and Milwaukee Road power are my favorites but they are all good.
That is a great link to the Seashore Trolley Museum. Atlantic Shore line #100 is an interesting electric and a worthy restoration project.Great open car #1601 at Lowell.
ERIC Many thanks for the circus train photo. Looking forward to more of it and the Mo-Pac model locomotive photos next week.
# 2253 I think would have been air-braked for use in Poland, to work the coaches on the preserved line it would to have to be fitted with a vacuum brake.
The bride too is not too keen on Wal-Mart, we have been to the one here twice and I got lost in the store both times. Mind I did get a coat here in Wal-Mart on my first visit in KC seven years ago and it has lasted up to now although the zip has just broke.
I see Tom as come up with some info on that mystery locomotive at Boone.
NICK Glad you agree you think there is a bit of resemblance with the Deltic and an E or F unit. The first two main line diesels the LMS pair 10000 and 10001 were perhaps even more so.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos yes that BR blue on Sir Nigel literally stopped me in my tracks when I first saw it newly painted. I would love to see an Ex LMS Princess or Duchess in it, I have seen pictures and it seemed to suit them too. It is odd that the BR blue scheme did not suit the Great Western locos as good. I have read that the King class No 6023 is going to turned out in blue when it completes its renovation to run again for the first time since BR days.
Glad the locos are in fine order and the ‘Pines' is back on the timetable ready for the climb out of Bournemouth West again. Have you heard anything about ‘ Sustrans' converting part of the trackbed of the S&D near Bath into a trail including passing through the tunnels on the way out of Bath.
I shall look forward to see the photos.
ROB Yes H&H have plenty of spare time nowadays, since no one dare challenge them at the Tag Wrestling matches any more. Love to no how you are able to control H&H so well
It would be good if
Morning Cindy , you look as wonderfull as always's. I think I will partake in a large thermos of the BK splash #1 ( lower octane ) and you know what I think a bacon sarnie as well Pete's put me in the mood for one. By the way Pete the arm's serves some great breakfasts on Sunday's not to mention the classic pub fare and deserts the rest of the week. Oh yeah there's a bar there too.
Tom-They've cleaned up the shorline website , much more compleet than it used to be That could be a rendezvous at some point as well,would take a couple days (daze) to do the place justice.Happy snow-shoeing
All the ground critters aggree on an early Spring I figure we have at least two good storms left before easter.
I'll get a mo-sheen when the sales start in April Sears and the like around here clear out the snow-blowers right before it's time to bring in the lawn tractors and mowers.
Maybe you can sweet talk the ACR folks,you know let the harmless lil' old man have his top seat the whole trip At least the ticket is for the dome car the whole way, the ACR removed the bar and teh state rooms from the domes and replaced them with seating in the lower area's. There's also a dinner or twio on teh train depending on the time of year .
Pete- Trade secrets my friend you don't want to know how to control H&H besides it's more directing than control , you just have to make them think it's their idea, stroke their ego's as it were.No Boris down I said ego's <sheesh>
The extention on 140's smokestack is a spark arrestor, there were 9 still are ) many wooden trestles on the ACR not to mention all the paper plants etc that they work in where stray sparks from the engine could well be a bad thing. CN has done the same thing on a lot of their earlier EMD's as well , some of the non-turbo charged ones would through out alot of sparks or unburnt fuel from the stacks.
Eric- Neat picture if that consolidation had an elesco feed water heater hanging above the firebox and an all weather cab I'd swear it was a CnoR N5C,which CN ran until the end of steam on the rural branchlines.
Here's a couple pictures to tide everyone over this morning. O Cindy could I have a BK mix refill thanks, here keep the change, thank-you.
A 1980's shot of ACR''s Agawa canyon pulled by the 200 series GP38's crossing the Montreal River Bridge ( shot I picked up at the gift shop in the 80's )
The Lowel mass trolley line
A Third Ave car at Seashore
enjoy
Back again CINDY so another bacon sarnie please.
The first batch of photos from the Stockton & Darlington 150 Cavalcade from 1975.Sorry about the foreign objects on some of the slides.
The replica of the S&D 0-4-0 LOCOMOTION. The loco is usually at the Beamish Museum in County Durham.
1857 built 0-4-0 WellTank No5 SHANNON this locomotive used to run on the Wantage Tramway in Oxfordshire.
1875 built North Eastern Railway 2-4-0 No 910 a National Raiway Museum engine. She is being towed by Flying Scotsman.
1892 built London & North Western Railway 2-4-0 'Precedent class 2-4-0 No 790 HARDWICKE. This loco took part in the 'Railway Races to the North between the West and East Coast routes in 1892 between London and Aberdeen
This loco ran specials on the main line for a short while, I had a trip which had Hardwicke double heading with the last BR steam locomotive to be built, 9F Evening Star, between Leeds and York via Harrogate.She also ran from Carnforth to Grange over Sands on a small train I was lucky to travel on in 1976.
1902 built Midland Railway Compound 4-4-0 No 1000, these locomotives were known as 'Crimson Ramblers', another NRM engine. I was booked a few times to travel behind the locomotive but never managed to .
1898 built Great Northern Railway 'Small Atlantic' No 990 HENRY OAKLEY, an NRM engine I was lucky to travel behind her on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway while she was at the line for a short time.
These should enlarge..
ROB Just seen your post. Rather you than me to stroke H&H's egos.
Thanks for the info on #140's smokestack spark arrestor.It was surprising how many sparks the Deltics could chuck out especially when they had been idling for a while and were opened up.
Great photo of the Algoma Central locomotives taken from the train and many thanks for the Lowell and the Seashore cars.
That sounds a great way to start Sunday with a breakfast at the Arm, what hours are they open Sunday.
Well CINDY, Holden's Mild for me and a Guinness for Rob and a round for those who come in please(well it is 5PM in England)
Pete.
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Cindy my sweet, just a mugga Joe with a jolt ‘n maybe a half-sandwich of ham, Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH on a hero roll <hard> if you please! Oh yeah, one extra large ‘n crunchy pickle from the barrel would go nice with it too. A round on me for the boyz ‘n the change is YOURS!
Boris, you've been a good cyclops, so g'wan 'n take that LARGE jar of PPF! <uh oh>
We just motored back from "up the coast" where it's been a loooooong few days. Beginning to wondAH . . . anyway, let me just say that I haven't checked the posts since my last visit, but will. I did fly through the pages ‘n saw all kinds of "stuff" - doubt that I'll evAH get to the Urls though - just don't have the time for those. "PitchAHs" are so much easiAH! <grin>
I'll get into my email before the weekend is ovAH . . . that is provided no more interruptions to what is supposed to be this life of leisure. <groan>
Took note that Nick has been back with two visits. Bodes well for some hope that we'll be increased by one more, even if only now ‘n then. Betterin not at all, huh Pete 'n Rob are payin' lots of attention to mattAHs too! No, no Pete - that doesn't mean or imply anything leading to a pay raise! <geesh> Shane has been doing his part too - so all in all the regulAHs have come through - oh yeah, can't forget the <trouble maker> in the desert - Eric! <frown>
As always, Cap'n Tom is holding things together with some fine help from da boyz! Very glad that you finally got that snow you've been beggin' for. Juneau must be a happy pup these days, huh <grin>
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Found these way back on the "old site," they were all in succession. Thought it would be a "goodun" for this Encore day! Especially since these three are now "used to be" guys with only my "bookend" BK having had the decency to tell us 'why' . . .
From: BK - BudKarr on Oct 29, 2005 back on page 150 of the "old site" . . .
Hello Captain Tom, I just provided one of my repeat performances over on your new topic and hope it helps to keep the idea moving forward. If you win even one newcomer for the bar, it is worth the effort. What to have on this day? How about a brew from the tap and an Italian sub - hold the onions please. You inquired regarding my use of the term Adventurer in my profile. Perhaps better expressed from days of yore than present times. Best explained in other than cyber space. I always enjoy those Fallen Flags of yours even with my rather limited experience compared to the majority of your customers. My European rail travels have been more extensive, but alas, I only have my memory to rely upon for data. And waht is that saying? The memory is the second thing to go! My contribution to humor this fine day. The Southern Pacific was surely an interesting railroad and one that enjoyed immense success in their day. Don't know too much about the Missouri Pacific, but I do recall the trains with suffix names of Eagle. Nice color scheme. Thank you Mr. Trolley Rob and Mr. Peter Wolfe - my contributions pale in comparison with the rest of you. However, it is always gratifying to receive some recognition for the effort. Looks like a quiet day at the bar, so I will just enjoy the sandwich, perhaps have another beer and then get going. Have some things to take care of for my Monday departure. I will try to stop by tomorrow - if only to view the photographs. BK
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From: Dan - earlydiesels on Oct 29, 2005 also page 150:
Hello everyone. Tom, I'll take a cold water with a lemon-it helps clear the lungs. Been catching up and neglected to take notes until almost the last page so I may be a bit more scatter brained than normal. Tom, the Classic Trains issue about the coast to coast Boy Scout trip is Summer 2003. The majority of the issue is about the B&O so look for the Mikado on the cover. I liked the fallen flag on the KCS. It's always seemed weird to me that this rr has been around for years but very little is published about it in any of the rail press. Even here in SW Mo, very little is discussed about the KCS. The widecabs are, along with the ex SD45s, are probably the most notable of KCS' recent prevelence of buying most of its power secondhand. All this stopped a few years ago when KCS ended their all EMD streak by buying new GEs.(yuk!) CM3, I appreciate the detailed info about the C&O GP30s. The dispositions are most helpful-Diesel Era mag does similar articles. Question however. The Kansas and Oklahoma rr, a Watco company, has an exChessie GP30 which I rode in the cab of earlier this year. I seem to remember the number being 3016. It also had a interesting device on the control stand allowing the engineer to vary the power--kind of like the fast/slow switch on some locos to change the way they load up for road or switching. I agree about the particular noise the locos make when under load. Trolleyboy, let me get this straight. You think that the EMD E8 is not an attractive locomotive? Did I read too quickly? I do agree about the long nosed Es being nice looking. My favorites were the purple ACLs, the SALs with the retractable nose door, and of course, the Rock's 630. Well, the official season for the Midland ends tomorrow. Probably for the good as our 2 primary locos are broke down. The 142 fried its au siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, February 2, 2008 2:44 PM This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!I see Wolfman has made it back to the bar . . . hope the headaches are gone. Also the Larsman is baaaaaaack! And our trolleyMAN up in Ontario is up 'n about the decks! A fine Saturday indeed, Gents - have one on me! Ring it, Boris!!Emporium Theatre selections to be Posted on Sunday . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Here's a spate of fotos seen before from Rendezvous II (May 2007) all taken at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <Kirkwood, MO> . . . . Missouri Pacific #6210. Coach (steel) - built in 1924 by American Car & Foundry. Illinois Central #30. Dynamometer Test Car - built in 1943 by Illinois Central. Gulf, Mobile & Ohio #5998. Parlor-observation - built in 1935 by American Car & Foundry. Chicago, Burlington & Quincy #192 "Silver Spoon. " Dining car - built in 1938 by Budd. Chesapeake & Ohio #970 "City Tavern." Dining Car - built in 1925 by Pullman. Northern Pacific sleeper/lounge car <no further info> Pullman "St. Carvan." Sleeper <heavyweight> - built in 1923 by Pullman.<There's Stealthy Pete!!>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Enjoy! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Gunneral Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: NZ 242 posts Posted by Gunneral on Saturday, February 2, 2008 7:42 PM Hi Tom and all,Hi Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please!Rob. Many thanks for the re post of your Big Loop write up, it was very interesting, and for more of your Grampa`s pics and all your other great pics here and over on the other thread.Eric. Sounds as if you are getting back to your normal self now, enjoyed all your comments and pics, that 4-8-0 loco was very interesting, not a very common wheel arrangement, good to see Tom was able to come up with the info on it.Pete. Many thanks for those pics of the Shildon parade in 1975, they were all "keepers", had to open a new Trains folder for them! Looking forward to your next selection. Nice pics of the #2253 US army loco too. That was a nice pic of you and Juneau at Tom`s place.Mike. Got to drive the original WWII Willy`s Jeep in Hong Kong in the mid 50`s, we did`nt have any Land Rover`s then, Bedford 3 tonners`[Brit GM] were similar to your deuce and a half, Supply clerks` were called Quartermaster`s clerks` in the Brit army, you had to keep in sweet with them or you had trouble accquiring new kit! Like you I had a great time BITD of my army service overseas.Nick. Everything is AOK down here in NZ, except that the whole country is still in self denial over the Rugby World Cup result, their was a great nashing of teeth when the AB`s were knocked out of the comp by Le Cockerals! See that congratulations are in order to you for Wales`s win at Twickers this AM, looks as if Gatland is going to be a better coach than Graham Henry was, I will not mention that they are both Kiwi`s of course! Enjoyed all of your posts`.CM3. Thanks for the very informative synopsis on the latest Classic Trains issue, I can only manage to get a copy now and again at a bookstore in Hastings 30 miles north of here, enjoyed all the info in your posts`.Ron. Nice to see you on board again, like you I enjoyed Mike`s post on `Nam and those links he posted, it was great to be young BITD, ah memories eh?Dan. Thanks for that link to the Beavertail coaches`, had a good look around those insides on the site, I must confess that the original curved Beavertail looked a whole lot better than the BR re-builds which to me look like the old GWR railcars? At least they have been saved and restored.Lars. Nice to see you on board again, sounds as if you are having a very relaxing time down on the Key`s, enjoyed all the classic writing in the 2005 re-post`s.Tom. Enjoyed all of your info and pics, nice re-post of Rob`s trolley pics, the 6 pack #9 of RR posters`, the real nice selection of coach and car pics from the Rendezvous II visit to Kirkwood museum, must be great to have such a great train collection handy close by? Thanks for that nice link to the trolley museum as well. You sound a lot happier now you`ve had some of that SNOW at your place, hope it does`nt thaw too quickly. Real nice pic of Pete and Juneau in your train room. trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, February 2, 2008 7:53 PM Good evening Leon. I think a large guiness of and what the heck a meatball sandwich on those nice fresh "hoggie" rolls. I see that lars has seen to the critter's , nio Boris you don't need another jar of PPF <sheesh> you have already refilled Zep one with your gas Just got in from work but had to clean all the snowplow left "marbles" from the end of the drivewayPete-Lovely steam pics sir , great looking units one and all Lars-Couple nice re-runs from the UTB crowd , nice to see that we can still put up the good stuff. I hope that we do see more of Nick as the humour is always welcome good luck tomorrow , personally I hope the Gints ruin the Pats perfect season.Tom-Great pile o passenger cars sir,some really nicly restored equipment good to see. Here's a few more pics for the guys,hey Leon could I get a top up sir thank-you.A couple goodies I took photo's off just outside of Buffalo , I'm assuming it's a small museum or Historical society I'm just not sure.EnjoyRob trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, February 2, 2008 8:00 PM Hey nice to see Allan pop in while I was busy two finger typing Glad that you liked the big loop article , I'll dig out a few more of them here and there just to keep everything moving along. Well guys here's a couple more pics for evryone to enjoy , these were from a couple charters that we did a decade or so ago. All from the Boston charter 1992 EnjoyRob nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:04 PM Well good evening Gentlemen all-Thought I would stop in for a few liver liveners after an unusually wild gig in Mentor City`s notorious Goat & Anthrax Tavern-had it not been for H&H`s considerable presence at the front of the stage things could have become quite ugly....Indeed,certain members or the Can-Am track gang are in grave danger of suspension of pool room access unless apologies are forthcomingRight then,Leon-I will take a bottle of the Staropramen from the back of the fridge please and I am sure the gentlemen of the house will join me in a little something.....and perhaps a selection of pizza slices and some side dishes-onion rings,garlic mushrooms,olives & feta cubes,calamari and the bottle of Wow-Wow sauce (with the ice bucket,naturally)So then,whats new hereabouts.....................CAPT TOM--As you so rightly surmise,the only embarrassment I generally suffer is financial-well,looking like I do,one develops a fairly thick skin <grin>,as to pacing myself-I`m on it-it now takes me all night to do what I used to spend all night doing.............but enough of that. Thanks for the explanation of the pic of PETE & JUNEAU-it appeared that PETE was trying to tickle JUNEAU`s tummy from the inside....The St Georges looks like my kinda bar (open)..some (as usual) cracking scans of classic artwork and some fine pix of the varnish-nice to see shots of `the rest of the train` not just the power-nice one mate !! As to ERICS shot of the #475-I noticed a logo on the front of the tender that might give some info-or is that already covered??DL-Am not much of a sports fan myself-is only the 6 nations rugby that lights my lamp-and after todays appalling showing I am keeping a very low profile-the village oiks are gathered outside the club baying and howling as I type this-ugly,very ugly....CM3-Some interesting stuff from coal country there my friend-I have a fondness for the L&N and the area it served,not least `cos of the fine music coming out of that region,couple that to the fine grey & yellow livery (elegant and understated) and what looks like beautiful countryside and you have a hands down winner-work safe yourself mate !!DD1-First off-lack of hindsight-- A WONDERFUL phrase-wish I had thought it up....hot pokers (excuse me ??) no really-is an old Somerset tradition-hot-pokered cider (not the apple juice you guys have over there ,but a fearsome potent brew,mostly served now in a clarified and sweetened form but traditionally a thick cloudy brew of about the same strength as a good white wine,drunk in pints. In it`s classic `farmhouse` form it tastes like vinegar but does the job-the farm boys would take it `pokered` on cold evenings to keep out the chill-have seen big ole landsmen knock back 16 pints of the stuff at a sitting and roll home apparently none the worse for wear-was a cider man myself for many years but discovered early on that I had an 8 pint limit-more than that and I would make a fool of myself....................now-tanks & transporters-last time I passed our local station yard (Haverfordwest) there was a rake of heavy duty flats on the long siding with a 4-wheel flat next to the stops with a pair of wheels removed to make a ramp-presumably this was bringing in a load of tanks to the Army ranges at Castlemartin-all the cars had D.R (German) markings and were painted in khaki drab,and as you suggest,had platforms connecting each car-to my shame I was without a camera ,and the next time I passed they had gone-although the ramp wagon is still there and will catch it next time .....ROB-How ya likin the white stuff my man ?? -sister reported about a foot fallen on friday morning with more to come-sounded a bit extreme until I watched a prog about the truckers driving the ice road up from Yellowknife to the De Beers plants-now they are some seriously crazy f*****s-you couldn`t pay me enough for that gig--wild..........Nice job with the pix of the black bear line-shame you cant still do the round trip up to Hearst,across to Cochrane and back down on the O.N.R-now that would be a ride.............P.S-got a whole new take on mens underwear -aint she a honey..(hehehehe)ERIC--`tis true,both the front-line Zeppelins (the Draig Goch & the Spirit of `76 ) have been out of service after H&H retro-fitted them with 40mm cannons stripped from Focke-Wulfe 190`s they found in a museum-the increase in weight and alteration of the balance proved prohibitive--happily,after much burning of midnight oil,the engineers at the Dyfed Dirigible Design Shop have triumphed and the substitution of Rolls-Royce `Merlin` power plants has done the trick-expect a delivery of Bathams Mild,Guinness and a trial barrel of Somerset `farmhouse rough` any day now...........PETE--Not sure about the `sustrans`,although when I lived in Bristol (some 20 years ago) I took a regular sunday walk along the Bristol-Bath section most weeks -would certainly make a cracking walking trail,although I imagine the tunnels (especially Combe Down) could get a bit spooky...used to walk down to Farleigh Hungerford every year for the folk festival-took 3 days from Clevedon,camping out on the way-lovely country-Englands green and pleasant land at its finest..........Cracking shots of the 150 cavalcade-I have the official book upstairs somewhere although your pix are rather better-isn`t that just the most elegant machinery one could wish for-a perfect mix of form and function................lovelyLARS--welcome back from your travels mate-I hope it was a successful mission,glad to see you are keeping the house in order-don`t know what you have done to the staff but whenever your name is mentioned Boris & Copperkettle become disturbingly servile and H&H start purring and swapping meaningful looks..........................................Right-I have a complaint-now when a gentleman visits the bathroom he should be able to leave his drink & bowl of peanuts without fear of interference-it`s that bloody parrot isnt it---AWK-get away from there -you are 10 seconds away from being the worlds worst tasting kebab..........Right-another round please Leon and -what the heck,break out the rum-tis saturday after all-will try and get some pix together soon-to be honest,is so long since I`ve done it,I `ve forgotten how(as the actress said to the bishop)O.K-gonna sit in a corner and listen to Herr Wurlitzer for a while ( is that Curved Air`s `Back street love ` I hear)--Have a good weekend you all,will drop in soon-Leon-here`s a $20 for the next round-and some more tunes-be good folks,love to allNick nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:38 PM A quick postscript for ALLAN--Slight confusion there mate-I`m not Welsh-I just live here-was a diabolical performance by the England team-the village girl guides could have done a better job-as to the world cup-we all thought you guys had it in the bag-as usual the French threw us all a curved ball-when they are good they are brilliant(lord it hurts me to say) and they did us a favour by taking out the AB`s and left us with the `boks (an evil bunch by any standards)-but--a bridge too far-I have huge respect for Graham Henry-he never had a chance over here but I will put money on the cup going home with you guys next time round-and deservedly so-here`s to it-take care mate !!-nick EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, February 3, 2008 12:20 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, I'll just have a ham sandwich. Have been eating too much today so that should be enough. A cold Tui would be great!I found some interesting stuff here today! I also found my circus train slides, scanned them and they will be found at the bottom of this post. Tom – I did some research today and as far as i can tell the Zephyr Midnight 2000 got its name from the artist who painted the poster, Michael L. Kungl. At least it seems like he added the 2000. But I think we need some deeper research. That poster is still on sale, for $34.65. I found out the identity of that steam locomotive! It is former Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475 and the only known operating 4-8-0 in North America. More info on this link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-8-0_475Very nice photos from the Museum of Transportation! I can’t recall I saw the Missouri Pacific #6210 last year. It looks almost brand new. I recognize the other ones. Pete – The Circus train pix are included in this post. To my big surprise I found them this morning. Did #2253 serve in Poland? In that case it must have been equipped with air brakes and it looks like it has one hose for the air brakes and one for the vacuum brakes. What I dislike most about WalMart are those endless checkout lines. WalMart still has a lot to learn about customer service. That you got lost doesn’t surprise me. Or did you just use your stealth skills? I’ll take it that your photos are scanned using your new scanner? You can let the scanner software remove most of those foreign objects on your photos. There should be a box where you click for Dust removal. I personally don’t use it, I prefer to clean the slides/negatives before the scanning and for whatever is left I use a program like Photoshop to fix them up. You can also adjust so the darker areas of the phots get lighter before you scan them. Interesting photos! Rob – What is a good storm? Not a perfect storm, but a good one? I found out about the steam loco in Boone. See my response to Tom.Nice photos! I like those old cabooses and steam locos! Nickel Plate and Lackawanna. I guess from your comment that you don’t know anything about the locomotives. Do you know anything about the green streetcar in your Boston charter photos? Looks different!Lars – Me, trouble maker? No way, I just want to help! Thanks for the old posts! I miss BK (and lady Lydia) and Al. Never “met” Dan. Al wrote about Texas Eagle, the train we rode last year during the Rendezvous! Allan – I feel pretty much like being back to normal. No pain at all. Just a few soar spots.I found the info on the steam locomotive. See my response to Tom and Nick. Nick – Thanks for the info on the Zeppelins! Should be ready for action pretty soon!?!? Yes, I found out that #475 originally was Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475. Glad to see it is in operating condition. Here are some photos from the World Circus Museum, Baraboo, WI, 1989. They show how they loaded a circus train using trucks and horses. Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:14 AM What ho everyone just in for a quick look around and a quick inventory of teh critters treat loset(s) everything seems in order so Boris a good round of treats for your menagerie and a small jar of PPF for youNick-Nice to see you back at your best mate Are you sure that you weren't out howling by the pub with the rest of the town tough's H&H may have mellowed but they still can get to the truth,<uh oh > they still have thier room full of gear <yikes> How did you get the Zepplin's augmentations part homeland security Those underwear aren't just anyones' "tighty whities" are theyEric-Great photo's sir I love seeing that old mack in use 5xlad you got to teh bottom of the steamer quetion. I think CM3 will be pleased.Rob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:43 AM "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.G'day Gents!Yes, "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays - but as has been my practice of late, I try to get a leg up on the ACKNOWLEDGMENTS as they accrue - getting to be a bit "much" for early morning preparation . . . So, here she comes! Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Saturday - Feb 2nd: <all times Central standard>Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 9:31 AM: You were missed on Friday, but understandable when battling headaches - no fun. Hmmmmm, too much of a good time at "that other" pub you frequent frequently Now maybe I'm not feeling sorry for you . . . <grin> "They" say warm beer will induce headaches, dontchano! <uh oh>Used to have a neighbor who drank bock beer - but first he'd pour it into a small pot, heat it up ‘n drink it hot. <yikes> Different strokes, eh Hot poker in cider - now that I've heard of . . . . not in anything else <unless we're speaking of torture!> <uh oh>Another fine < I3 > Post! Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Page 178 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:14 AM ‘n 10:21 AM: Undoubtedly a Rendezvous in Maine would be a fine time - as would one in the Canadian Maritimes - or the Pacific northwest - or Alaska - or the British Isles - or New Zealand - or . . . . <yikes> As the saying goes, "So many gals rail museums, so little time!" <grin>I seriously doubt that my efforts to obtain dome seating for a complete round trip would "work." <frown> I'm a bit surprised at the "policy," in that these days one pays for dome seating at a premium price on excursion trains. If the line is an operating passenger route, then I'm not sure how they go about enforcing such a thing . . . but no need to expound on it. We'll most probably not be making that journey. Nice to think about though . . . Nice fotos, especially the AC shot! <sweet>Snow level has dropped to a bit less than half of what had fallen on Thursday-Friday. Expect by the end of this day it will be all slush ‘n mush. <arrrrrggggghhhhh>Thanx for the visits! Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 11 AM: Fine spate of fotos from your new scanner! Appreciate the write-ups too. Advice: When preparing slides for scanning, be sure to turn your head before sneezing! <grin> Just curious, why are you interested in the St. George Arms Sunday hours Planning a Sunday brunch I better be included!! <uh oh>Pix, chat ‘n ROUND appreciated! Page 178- Lars (LoveDomes) at 12:03 PM: An interesting sequence of UTBs - aside from BK, best to put ‘em on the <back burner> ‘n keep the place movin' on down the line. Find it a tad disturbing to read about the continuing flap over the Patriots "cheating" and so forth. For cripes sakes - if they did what they've been accused of, does it make it any different from what the others have been doing all along Doesn't make it "right," but we hardly live in a perfect world ‘n Lord knows, I'm no where near perfection. The idea is to win - cheating is wrong, wrong, wrong - but only when you get caught so say quite a few. <groan> Amazing that these "revelations" come out just as Super Bowl Sunday is the talk of the town . . . <barf>Let's GO GIANTS! Round ‘n visit most appreciated! Page 178 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:42 PM: As always, a fine inclusive offering from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, February 3, 2008 12:20 PM We are CLOSED on SUNDAYsStarting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . February 3rd thru 9th: Death in Paradise (2006) Starring: Tom Selleck, Edward Edwards, Brendan Kelly, Kerri Smith & Vito Rezza - and - The Longest Yard (2005) Starring: Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Burt Reynolds, Nelly (III) & Walter Williamson. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Pests in a Mess (1945). Death in Paradise (2006)PLOT SUMMARY: The always dependable Tom Selleck returns as Robert B. Parker's small town police chief Jesse Stone in Death in Paradise, the made-for-TV sequel to Stone Cold, his 2005 debut as the character. Stone is a grittier, more human (and vulnerable) role than the one that made Selleck famous (playboy detective Thomas Magnum of Magnum, P.I.), but his tenacity and character flaws (a drinking problem and latent feelings for his ex-wife) seem a comfortable fit for the older Selleck. And the mystery itself--which surrounds the death of a young student whose connections to big-city crime--is crisp and convoluted (if not particularly novel), which provides Selleck with enough action and drama to please his longtime fans. William Devane and Gary Basaraba (Boomtown) are among the guest stars, while Viola Davis, Vito Rezza, and Kohl Sudduth return from Stone Cold as Selleck's police officers. Selleck also contributed to the script and co-produced along with director Robert Harmon, who helmed the other Stone films. --Paul Gaita <from: amazon.com> The Longest Yard (2005)PLOT SUMMARY: Prison inmates form a football team to challenge the prison guards. Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team. <A remake of a 1974 movie starring Burt Reynolds; shown at the Emporium - Jan 21-27, 2007><from: amazon.com> SHORT: The Three Stooges - Booby Dupes (1945)PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help. < Happy Railroading! Siberianmo LoveDomes Member sinceJanuary 2006 From: northeast U.S. 1,225 posts Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:37 PM Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waitin' for the bar to open!!Can you believe it My JINTS WON! They are the 2008 Super Bowl Champs 'n played their butts off against the no-longer-perfect-Patriots! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON!Drinks on the Da Larsman come Monday morning throughout the day! And Boris, give the crittAHs double rations too! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON!Until the next time! Lars trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:54 PM Just popped in to make sure that the pool room's intact after the upset of upsets Gongrats to the Gints and to our Manager who nevah gave up on them. Perfect Smerfect I alway's say Tom-Great movie choices for the week down at the ole Emporium,hopefully it and most of the downtown mentor village will still be standing come morning. I hear that Inspector clueless has called out the Fusiliers and the Mentor Villiage Civil War retiree's groups to maintain order<uh Oh> Copperkettle has boarded up the Zepplin Sheds, and Boris Leon and H&H have donnned the spiked Helmets and body armour,even Spikes wearing a metal collanderLars-Thanks for picking up the tab for monday morning , we may have to move to the high ground near the Zepplin sheds though.Look teh fusiliers are practicing.Perhaps CM3 and his roving reporter can give us a blow by blow of what has happened.Rob EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Monday, February 4, 2008 12:11 AM Hmm, at least it is not snowing this dark Sunday evening/Monday morning. Where is... oh, there it is. Down with this note and back home again.Rob – Glad you liked the photos! I am sorry I couldn’t provide the sound of that old truck! I found the steamer from Boone right away when I Googled. It found a new life in Strasburg. Did the war start? Let’s hope our Super Reporter CM3 can tell us the whole story.Tom – I think that artist added 2000 when he painted the poster, just to make it look even more futuristic. As you already mentioned, let’s spend some time on that topic in May at the library. Two fine movies for this week at the Emporium! Death in Paradise and Longest Yard! Plus, of course, the Three Stooges!Maybe something for Can Am Railway? A circus train and a circus!Lars – I know, I know, Jints won! As a matter of fact I was hoping they were going to win, but don’t tell anyone. Eric siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Monday, February 4, 2008 6:46 AM <personal foto>A smile to begin the week!Why buy good luggage? You only use it when you travel..<A Yogi-ism!>G'day Gents!It's THAT day again - MONDAY! <arrrrgggghhhh> But a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do - so drag yourself in here, kick start the day with a mugga Joe, a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast. That should help ya! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Congrats to the Super Bowl Champion Giants! <who wudda thunk it, eh > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Sunday- Feb 3rd: <all times Central standard>Page 179 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:37 PM: SELL-A-BRAY-SHUN! Page 179 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:54 PM: Back with concern for the well-being of "Our" Place after the "upset of upsets"! Great looking shots of the Home Guard - kinda strange that Mentor Village would erupt in such a manner - after all, "our" team, Mentor Marauders weren't involved. Hmmmmmm. Great to see ya! Monday - Feb 4th:Page 179 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:11 AM: In with some brief commentary ‘n a fine looking model circus foto! Thought you'd still be at the stadium - enjoying the party atmosphere in that private suite you were spotted in. And WHO was the "brunette," hmmmmm Appreciate the visit! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often! Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, February 4, 2008 9:17 AM Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Artie, fly up and check the lightning rods, please. We just had a ferocious thunderstorm (purple lightning was a nice touch - no, Boris, it's not what we toasted the Giants with last night), so we are a tad late this a.m. LARS - Yes, they did! Lights burned late in the east wing last night, believe me! Thanks to OSP for appropriate recognition this a.m. DL visited with comments - good to hear from you.Rob sent a lot of material "Mat-ta-wan" is, of course, in New Jersey.Enjoyed the pictures taken behind the old Erie station at Hamburg, NY. Track is still active. The cabs and I1s all belong to the Western NY Railroad Historical Society which is a quite large and active group. You can Google the name and listen to the locomotive whistles on their website. Also look at their other buildings, etc. BTW, Straits Shows unloads just to the right of where you made your pictures. I was at Seashore yrs. ago - well remember riding them open cars.Interesting pictures in Boston - type 5 and an LRV. The former has survived the latter cars.DD1 visited as well. I did see the tank restoration story awhile back. They have lots of toys and a big shop area as well. The turret removal and restoration on (for the life of me I can't remember the name, but it was a UK tank), was fascinating. Nick - Good to hear from you - Now we have ZAG (Zeppelin Airship Restoration Group). The Greater Mentor Airship Observation Corps is waiting to stagger into action at the first report of any suspicious activity. BTW, I know you probably didn't bother with the Super Bowl at all, but FEDEX did have an inspired ad on use of carrier pigeons for shipping goods - wonder what they were consuming when they made that one - hope you get to see it sometime as you would truly appreciate it. Eric - Mack trucks, work horses, friction bearings - life is good - thanks for the pictures. Pete was by with some truly vintage items. A compound 4-4-0; not something you see every day.OSP - Travel via New York or Washington - Can see the P Company slogan now. The ancient and honorable one in our family took a trip to Columbus, OH back during WW2 - coach of course - double headed K4s over Horseshoe, and took advantage of the side routing to Washington to go to the opening of the National Gallery. He said the paintings were well worth seeing, but so was the show west of Altoona.Tug is an excellent game, but the K9 Korps prefers fetch - this involves chasing stuff and then burying it, or sometimes bringing it back to repeat the process. A set of action ‘moom pichers at the Theatuh - bring it on! Last, the 4-8-0 was, indeed, around on the N&W for a long time. It's Boris's favorite locomotive class, "Mastodon," of course.Work safe DL - UK Member sinceAugust 2006 280 posts Posted by DL - UK on Monday, February 4, 2008 12:17 PM Hi TomI'll have a pint (and I'll have a Sheppy's Somerset Cider since Nick reminds me of how good they are) - whilst trying to return to the post I did not get finished before. Mind you - spotted those great pics of cars at the museum you posted - they are nicely finished and protected indoors of course. Nick - Just caught your more recent post where you mention the ONR - Round trip - I guess you will have missed it, but I did the ONR Toronto - Moosonee trip in late summer (trip report posted on these pages). You could do the round trip - but you'd have to use an ONR bus from Cochrane to Hearst (perfectly feasible as I saw the bus) - rails still used that way it looked to me - just not for passengers. Anyway - I took a copy of that railway magazine article from 1963 (?) you scanned for me along with me and gave a copy to the very friendly ONR folks at their Cochrane HQ for their interest. (Tom might know how to find my trip report on prev pages - not sure I know).CM3 - looks like you've got a load of weather!Rob - I see some Redcoats in those pictures! Enjoyed those ACR shots too.Ron - VW Karman Ghia - that was a nice car! There's one in my town I see from time to time being driven about, painted in maroon.On the subject of hot pokers in ale I've seen a chap do this once in a pub - but he was real ‘bar bullxxxter' who kept doing it to draw attention to himself - so I was not going to ask him why. I assume you'd do it in winter if your beer from the cellar was too cold due to climate (Tom, I know your going to be aggrieved at this concept...). Of course you can use Smokeless coal in a smoke free area Pete! Lars - hope all's well down on the Keys - looks like you are not missing the sport!Allan - interesting to read that your family pushed you in the direction of the Army rather than underground (not to say you didn't have your own preferences anyway) - just goes to show how dangerous mining was considered to be if life in the military in the cold war period was seen as lower risk!You are right about the Beavertail - the BR rebuild does look like a GWR railcar, apparently he original design did not actually offer a very good view to the people inside it hence the rebuild for use in Scotland in the 1950s.For comparison:BR rebuild (as recently restored on GCR)http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10173788&wwwflag=2&imagepos=1LNER original build (to be restored on GCR like this)http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10459955&wwwflag=2&imagepos=4GWR railcar (later design)http://www.kesr.org.uk/diesel_locos/20.htmGWR railcar - original shapehttp://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/grcwandd.htmThe second of the 2 surviving beavertails is to be restored to the original LNER shape. This has been moved from Carnforth down to Barrow Hill near Chesterfield for store prior to start of restoration work according to chap I asked at Loughborough GCR the other weekend.Eric - you mentioned scanning slides regarding dirt on them to Pete - I had a query as I have some old family slides which are dirty - I can imagine dry dust should be dealt with using a camera lens brush - but some have more ingrained dirt (inc small mould spores which is a problem from damp English houses) - any idea how to clean them without damaging them - I was thinking of asking for professional advice but fear it might "gag a healthy maggot" to pay someone to do it!Pete - I bet you wish you'd kept that Rugby departure poster - I enjoy reading the one they have on display at Loughborough from the old Nottingham Victoria station - departures right though the night - many to far flung destinations like Hastings leaving at 12.45am etc.I like the BR blue livery too - seen a Merchant Navy at GCR in it I think - they must have decided it would take too much cleaning and went for the dark green all too quickly, but the blue is good, as shown on that A4.Yes, it was a good day at the GCR gala - sunny and cold. For Rob's amusement I'm going to post the loco list WITH NUMBERS!LMS 4F 44422 ; GWR 4141 large Prairie ; SR King Arthur 30777 ; BR Std Cl 2 78019 ; GWR Hall 4953 ; LMS 8F 48305On other matter's you've asked about Pete I did my best to find out - so here goes:I think they could do 60mph at Quorn with no passengers on board as they have the line tamped up since they allowed Network Rail engineers to train on it and got the line tamped for speed as part of the deal. The sound of the approaching train was superbSome of the windcutters look like they need a lick of paint now, but the rake is still impressive. You must have been pleased to see the fruits of your donation.Other things at the GCR of note was a display about a plan to rebuild a replica of a Victorian GCR design (GCR Class 2 or what became an LNER D7 4-4-0) - using a spare boiler of suitable outline. This was alongside info on restoring vintage carriages. They seem to have a variety of teak bodied pre 1939 LNER carriages in various states of dereliction at Swithland. Then they have about 3 or 4 GCR Barnums (so named because the look like the cars used by the Barnum and Bailey Circus troupe of the period) - these have been moved to GCR Nottingham site for restoration - some work has been done but I don't think any are finished. Some more details are:http://www.gcr-rollingstocktrust.co.uk/articles_output.asp?id=11&checkSource=sitemapThey also have some vintage GCR wooden suburban carriages which are also in a fairly frail state. They would like to run them behind the 4-4-0 if the can be renovated.They have a plan to build a traditional brick carriage shed at Swithland on the old quarry siding branch and are trying to raise £50k to clear the site and lay track. They have recently cut down self seeded trees on this so you can see the line of the siding.On the subject of the Workington loco shed they have a good model in the Loughborough station museum of the proposed reconstruction - it looks good, and looks large! The main problem here seems to be the construction of access to the proposed site - including rebuilding the canal bridge and another bridge over stream. I honestly don't know how they can manage such a large project but clearly they intend to do so. It will be a world class locomotive restoration facility.Meanwhile the factory next to the GC station at Loughborough has been demolished for a housing development. This must have been the station goods yard. The old goods shed (GC shed) has not been demolished so maybe the GCR own this and can link it to their tracks? It is large and would make a good carriage storage shed or similar. A house style building at the edge of the site (clearly what was once the GCR goods offices, opposite the hotel) is also the only other building on the site not cleared, so maybe the property developer intends to turn this into flats and keep it. On a final matter - your mention of EE Class 20 diesels reminds me of my student days when they would head coal trains along the line at the end of the road from the house we rented - we were only about 75 meters away from the line and the house would shake when they went past. About 3 runs per day from Notts collieries to Toton yard. They certainly sounded like helicopters so deserved the ‘chopper' nick name. At this time this was the only traffic on this route, but since then it has been re-opened to passengers use as part of the Robin Hood line to Worksop.Britannia was in the shed stripped to frames but looking like it was ready to start putting back together - they need to get this ready for August for the 15 Guinea special commemorations do they not - the loco has outlived BR!!CheerioDLPs - By the way trial running of the new A1 Tornado steam loco is to be held on the GCR this year - should be in Sept if all goes to plan - see: http://www.a1steam.com/update.html Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 4, 2008 12:24 PM Good day Tom and all present at the bar by the siding. Please give a round of drinks. Nick: Thanks for straightening me out about the hot poker thing. Tom: Down here in the south, they call hoagies, grinders and heroes "po-boys". One of the most famous being fried shrimp mixed with mayo and stuffed onto a soft roll. Very similar to a Maine lobster roll, but shrimp instead. Glad to hear your Jints won. I couldn't watch the game as my TV service wants a lot of money to watch "premium" channels. It seems that TV is moving away from free broadcasting, as there doesn't seem to be very much to watch anymore. Call me cheap, but I refuse to pay for programming, I used to get for free. I subscribe to a "basic" satellite service and that's it. If I had my way, I wouldn't have a TV at all, but the missus wants it. Radio suits me just fine. I haven't gotten around to looking at the latest posts, but hope the following edition of the Events of 1936 will give food for thought. As I went through this list, I discovered much that I didn't know. March 25 - The 200-inch mirror blank for the Palomar observatory begins its cross-country trip aboard a special railroad car. May 11 - Deutsche Reichsbahn Gesellschaft's BR 05 class locomotive number 05 002 sets the world's speed record for steam locomotives at 200.4km/h (124.5mph) on a run between Hamburg and Berlin. May 12 - The Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway inaugurates the all-diesel powered Super Chief passenger train between Chicago, Illinois, and Los Angeles, California. May 15 - The first City of Los Angeles passenger train makes its debut, using the streamliner trainset M-10002, running from Chicago, Illinois, to Los Angeles, California, on the Chicago and North Western Railway and the Union Pacific Railroad. May 17 - Illinois Central's streamliner "Green Diamond" makes its debut, running between Chicago, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri. May 20 - The first diesel locomotive rolls out of EMD's LaGrange plant in McCook, Illinois: a 100-ton, 600-horsepower switcher built for the Santa Fe Railroad. May - Union Pacific Railroad takes delivery of the first of the M-10003-6 streamliner power cars. June 14 - The M-10004 streamliner trainset enters service on the City of San Francisco passenger train. June 18 - The first City of Denver passenger train makes its debut running from Chicago, Illinois, to Denver, Colorado, on the Chicago and North Western Railway and the Union Pacific Railroad. July 15 - The New York Central introduces the Mercury passenger train between Detroit, Michigan, and Cleveland, Ohio. August 1 - The New Haven Railroad tests a new streamliner: a two-car Besler steam motor train.September 18 - Canadian Pacific Railway 4-4-4 number 3003 pulls a newly-designed lightweight passenger train at 112.5 mph (181 km/h) near Saint-Télesphore, Quebec, Canada. October - Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad inaugurates the Sam Houston Zephyr passenger train. November 8 - Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad inaugurates the Denver Zephyr passenger train. December 18 - The Twin Cities Zephyr, an articulated trainset pulled by an EMD E5, is placed into service between Chicago, Illinois, and Minneapolis-St. Paul. December - Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad inaugurates the Ozark State Zephyr passenger train. Illinois Central's Green Diamond trainset is built by Pullman-Standard . Bruce Church, T. R. Merrill, Gene Harden and Ken Nutting form the Growers Ice Company to ship bulk carloads of lettuce by rail from Salinas, California 1887, November 2 - the Canada Atlantic Railway commences using the first passenger cars in Canada to be fitted with electric light. July 7 - At David Sarnoff's request for an experiment of RCA's electronic television technology, NBC's first attempt at actual programming is a 30-minute variety show featuring speeches, dance ensembles, monologues, vocal numbers, and film clips. It is shown to 225 of RCA's licensees. August - 72 hours of medium-definition (180-line) television broadcasts of the 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin are seen by approximately 150,000 people in public viewing rooms in Berlin and Potsdam. November 2 - The first regular high-definition (then defined as at least 200 lines) television service from the BBC, based at Alexandra Palace in London, officially begins broadcasting (after test transmissions began in August). The service alternates on a weekly basis between Baird's 240-line mechanical system and the Marconi-EMI's 405-line all-electronic system. Programmes are broadcast daily, Monday to Saturday, at 15:00-16:00 and 21:00-22:00. 1908, May 17 - Electric operation begins through the St. Clair Tunnel between Sarnia and Port Huron. This ended staem operation which had asphyxiated several crew members. A formal inspection and opening ceremony took place on November 12 1900, August 15 - Regular service is commenced over the 3'0" gauge White Pass and Yukon Railway between Skagway, Alaska and Whitehorse, Yukon.1917, October 17 - First train over the Quebec Bridge over the St. Lawrence. This was constructed by the Dominion Government for use by the National Transcontinental Railway. This bridge was notorious in that it fell down twice during constructionNovember 6 - NBC in New York demonstrates electronic television to invited members of the press, with a 40-minute program of live acts and films, received on 12-inch television screens. First coaxial cables are laid between New York and Philadelphia by AT&T; they will transmit television and telephone signals.[1] By this year there are approximately 2,000 televisions worldwide. June 19 - In one of boxing's all-time biggest upsets, Max Schmeling knocked out Joe Louis at 2:29 of round 12 at New York's Yankee Stadium. 1936 Summer Olympics takes place in Berlin, Germany Germany wins the most medals (89), and the most gold medals (33). Jesse Owens wins four gold medals. The first torch relay takes place from Olympia, Greece. March 4 - Jim Clark, Scottish motor racing champion (d. 1968)20 January - Edward, Prince of Wales, accedes to the throne as King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom. On a visit to depressed areas of South Wales later in the year, he declares that "something must be done". July 11 - Triborough Bridge in New York City is opened to trafficNovember 3 - U.S. presidential election, 1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt is reelected to a second term in a landslide victory over Alf Landon. November 12 - In California, the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge opens to traffic. Quite a few of our favorite musicians were born in 1936, including: Roger Miller, Jan 2; Doug Kershaw, Jan 24; Mickey Gilley, May 9; Glen Campbell, Apr 22; Roy Orbison, Apr 23: Zubin Mehta, Apr 29: Englebert Humperdinch, May 2: Boots Randolph, June 3: Kris Kristofferson, June 22 and Buddy Holly, Sept 7. I'm sure you will recognize some of the names.Courtesy of WikipediaThe Allen Paper Wheel was introduced in 1869. It had a centre core built up from strawboard with steel or iron plates bolted on the front and rear. It was widely used in North America between 1880 and 1915. The original invention was as a substitute for the wood core of wheels with steel tires. Compressed paper was substituted for wood at the core. When compressed it was said to be as hard as ivory yet soft enough to cushion the ride and reduce wheel noise and vibration. Pullman tested the wheels and eventually adopted them as standard. A "Paper Wheel" would have a ring of bolts all around the wheel center. (Thanks to Paul Bown and Steve Hunter for this explanation). I had mentioned previously about there being a prototype for everything. The wheels for my locomotive are made of plywood. I may/may not wrap the treads with brass strips. Edit « First«116117118119120121122»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Hello everyone. Tom, I'll take a cold water with a lemon-it helps clear the lungs. Been catching up and neglected to take notes until almost the last page so I may be a bit more scatter brained than normal. Tom, the Classic Trains issue about the coast to coast Boy Scout trip is Summer 2003. The majority of the issue is about the B&O so look for the Mikado on the cover. I liked the fallen flag on the KCS. It's always seemed weird to me that this rr has been around for years but very little is published about it in any of the rail press. Even here in SW Mo, very little is discussed about the KCS. The widecabs are, along with the ex SD45s, are probably the most notable of KCS' recent prevelence of buying most of its power secondhand. All this stopped a few years ago when KCS ended their all EMD streak by buying new GEs.(yuk!) CM3, I appreciate the detailed info about the C&O GP30s. The dispositions are most helpful-Diesel Era mag does similar articles. Question however. The Kansas and Oklahoma rr, a Watco company, has an exChessie GP30 which I rode in the cab of earlier this year. I seem to remember the number being 3016. It also had a interesting device on the control stand allowing the engineer to vary the power--kind of like the fast/slow switch on some locos to change the way they load up for road or switching. I agree about the particular noise the locos make when under load. Trolleyboy, let me get this straight. You think that the EMD E8 is not an attractive locomotive? Did I read too quickly? I do agree about the long nosed Es being nice looking. My favorites were the purple ACLs, the SALs with the retractable nose door, and of course, the Rock's 630. Well, the official season for the Midland ends tomorrow. Probably for the good as our 2 primary locos are broke down. The 142 fried its au
I see Wolfman has made it back to the bar . . . hope the headaches are gone. Also the Larsman is baaaaaaack! And our trolleyMAN up in Ontario is up 'n about the decks! A fine Saturday indeed, Gents - have one on me! Ring it, Boris!!
Emporium Theatre selections to be Posted on Sunday . . .
Here's a spate of fotos seen before from Rendezvous II (May 2007) all taken at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <Kirkwood, MO> . . . .
Missouri Pacific #6210. Coach (steel) - built in 1924 by American Car & Foundry.
Illinois Central #30. Dynamometer Test Car - built in 1943 by Illinois Central.
Gulf, Mobile & Ohio #5998. Parlor-observation - built in 1935 by American Car & Foundry.
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy #192 "Silver Spoon. " Dining car - built in 1938 by Budd.
Chesapeake & Ohio #970 "City Tavern." Dining Car - built in 1925 by Pullman.
Northern Pacific sleeper/lounge car <no further info>
Pullman "St. Carvan." Sleeper <heavyweight> - built in 1923 by Pullman.
<There's Stealthy Pete!!>
Hi Tom and all,
Hi Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please!
Rob. Many thanks for the re post of your Big Loop write up, it was very interesting, and for more of your Grampa`s pics and all your other great pics here and over on the other thread.
Eric. Sounds as if you are getting back to your normal self now, enjoyed all your comments and pics, that 4-8-0 loco was very interesting, not a very common wheel arrangement, good to see Tom was able to come up with the info on it.
Pete. Many thanks for those pics of the Shildon parade in 1975, they were all "keepers", had to open a new Trains folder for them! Looking forward to your next selection. Nice pics of the #2253 US army loco too. That was a nice pic of you and Juneau at Tom`s place.
Mike. Got to drive the original WWII Willy`s Jeep in Hong Kong in the mid 50`s, we did`nt have any Land Rover`s then, Bedford 3 tonners`[Brit GM] were similar to your deuce and a half, Supply clerks` were called Quartermaster`s clerks` in the Brit army, you had to keep in sweet with them or you had trouble accquiring new kit! Like you I had a great time BITD of my army service overseas.
Nick. Everything is AOK down here in NZ, except that the whole country is still in self denial over the Rugby World Cup result, their was a great nashing of teeth when the AB`s were knocked out of the comp by Le Cockerals! See that congratulations are in order to you for Wales`s win at Twickers this AM, looks as if Gatland is going to be a better coach than Graham Henry was, I will not mention that they are both Kiwi`s of course! Enjoyed all of your posts`.
CM3. Thanks for the very informative synopsis on the latest Classic Trains issue, I can only manage to get a copy now and again at a bookstore in Hastings 30 miles north of here, enjoyed all the info in your posts`.
Ron. Nice to see you on board again, like you I enjoyed Mike`s post on `Nam and those links he posted, it was great to be young BITD, ah memories eh?
Dan. Thanks for that link to the Beavertail coaches`, had a good look around those insides on the site, I must confess that the original curved Beavertail looked a whole lot better than the BR re-builds which to me look like the old GWR railcars? At least they have been saved and restored.
Lars. Nice to see you on board again, sounds as if you are having a very relaxing time down on the Key`s, enjoyed all the classic writing in the 2005 re-post`s.
Tom. Enjoyed all of your info and pics, nice re-post of Rob`s trolley pics, the 6 pack #9 of RR posters`, the real nice selection of coach and car pics from the Rendezvous II visit to Kirkwood museum, must be great to have such a great train collection handy close by? Thanks for that nice link to the trolley museum as well. You sound a lot happier now you`ve had some of that SNOW at your place, hope it does`nt thaw too quickly. Real nice pic of Pete and Juneau in your train room.
Good evening Leon. I think a large guiness of and what the heck a meatball sandwich on those nice fresh "hoggie" rolls. I see that lars has seen to the critter's , nio Boris you don't need another jar of PPF <sheesh> you have already refilled Zep one with your gas Just got in from work but had to clean all the snowplow left "marbles" from the end of the driveway
Pete-Lovely steam pics sir , great looking units one and all
Lars-Couple nice re-runs from the UTB crowd , nice to see that we can still put up the good stuff. I hope that we do see more of Nick as the humour is always welcome good luck tomorrow , personally I hope the Gints ruin the Pats perfect season.
Tom-Great pile o passenger cars sir,some really nicly restored equipment good to see.
Here's a few more pics for the guys,hey Leon could I get a top up sir thank-you.
A couple goodies I took photo's off just outside of Buffalo , I'm assuming it's a small museum or Historical society I'm just not sure.
Enjoy
Hey nice to see Allan pop in while I was busy two finger typing Glad that you liked the big loop article , I'll dig out a few more of them here and there just to keep everything moving along. Well guys here's a couple more pics for evryone to enjoy , these were from a couple charters that we did a decade or so ago.
All from the Boston charter 1992
Well good evening Gentlemen all-Thought I would stop in for a few liver liveners after an unusually wild gig in Mentor City`s notorious Goat & Anthrax Tavern-had it not been for H&H`s considerable presence at the front of the stage things could have become quite ugly....Indeed,certain members or the Can-Am track gang are in grave danger of suspension of pool room access unless apologies are forthcoming
Right then,Leon-I will take a bottle of the Staropramen from the back of the fridge please and I am sure the gentlemen of the house will join me in a little something.....and perhaps a selection of pizza slices and some side dishes-onion rings,garlic mushrooms,olives & feta cubes,calamari and the bottle of Wow-Wow sauce (with the ice bucket,naturally)
So then,whats new hereabouts.....................
CAPT TOM--As you so rightly surmise,the only embarrassment I generally suffer is financial-well,looking like I do,one develops a fairly thick skin <grin>,as to pacing myself-I`m on it-it now takes me all night to do what I used to spend all night doing.............but enough of that. Thanks for the explanation of the pic of PETE & JUNEAU-it appeared that PETE was trying to tickle JUNEAU`s tummy from the inside....The St Georges looks like my kinda bar (open)..some (as usual) cracking scans of classic artwork and some fine pix of the varnish-nice to see shots of `the rest of the train` not just the power-nice one mate !! As to ERICS shot of the #475-I noticed a logo on the front of the tender that might give some info-or is that already covered??
DL-Am not much of a sports fan myself-is only the 6 nations rugby that lights my lamp-and after todays appalling showing I am keeping a very low profile-the village oiks are gathered outside the club baying and howling as I type this-ugly,very ugly....
CM3-Some interesting stuff from coal country there my friend-I have a fondness for the L&N and the area it served,not least `cos of the fine music coming out of that region,couple that to the fine grey & yellow livery (elegant and understated) and what looks like beautiful countryside and you have a hands down winner-work safe yourself mate !!
DD1-First off-lack of hindsight-- A WONDERFUL phrase-wish I had thought it up....hot pokers (excuse me ??) no really-is an old Somerset tradition-hot-pokered cider (not the apple juice you guys have over there ,but a fearsome potent brew,mostly served now in a clarified and sweetened form but traditionally a thick cloudy brew of about the same strength as a good white wine,drunk in pints. In it`s classic `farmhouse` form it tastes like vinegar but does the job-the farm boys would take it `pokered` on cold evenings to keep out the chill-have seen big ole landsmen knock back 16 pints of the stuff at a sitting and roll home apparently none the worse for wear-was a cider man myself for many years but discovered early on that I had an 8 pint limit-more than that and I would make a fool of myself....................now-tanks & transporters-last time I passed our local station yard (Haverfordwest) there was a rake of heavy duty flats on the long siding with a 4-wheel flat next to the stops with a pair of wheels removed to make a ramp-presumably this was bringing in a load of tanks to the Army ranges at Castlemartin-all the cars had D.R (German) markings and were painted in khaki drab,and as you suggest,had platforms connecting each car-to my shame I was without a camera ,and the next time I passed they had gone-although the ramp wagon is still there and will catch it next time .....
ROB-How ya likin the white stuff my man ?? -sister reported about a foot fallen on friday morning with more to come-sounded a bit extreme until I watched a prog about the truckers driving the ice road up from Yellowknife to the De Beers plants-now they are some seriously crazy f*****s-you couldn`t pay me enough for that gig--wild..........Nice job with the pix of the black bear line-shame you cant still do the round trip up to Hearst,across to Cochrane and back down on the O.N.R-now that would be a ride.............P.S-got a whole new take on mens underwear -aint she a honey..(hehehehe)
ERIC--`tis true,both the front-line Zeppelins (the Draig Goch & the Spirit of `76 ) have been out of service after H&H retro-fitted them with 40mm cannons stripped from Focke-Wulfe 190`s they found in a museum-the increase in weight and alteration of the balance proved prohibitive--happily,after much burning of midnight oil,the engineers at the Dyfed Dirigible Design Shop have triumphed and the substitution of Rolls-Royce `Merlin` power plants has done the trick-expect a delivery of Bathams Mild,Guinness and a trial barrel of Somerset `farmhouse rough` any day now...........
PETE--Not sure about the `sustrans`,although when I lived in Bristol (some 20 years ago) I took a regular sunday walk along the Bristol-Bath section most weeks -would certainly make a cracking walking trail,although I imagine the tunnels (especially Combe Down) could get a bit spooky...used to walk down to Farleigh Hungerford every year for the folk festival-took 3 days from Clevedon,camping out on the way-lovely country-Englands green and pleasant land at its finest..........Cracking shots of the 150 cavalcade-I have the official book upstairs somewhere although your pix are rather better-isn`t that just the most elegant machinery one could wish for-a perfect mix of form and function................lovely
LARS--welcome back from your travels mate-I hope it was a successful mission,glad to see you are keeping the house in order-don`t know what you have done to the staff but whenever your name is mentioned Boris & Copperkettle become disturbingly servile and H&H start purring and swapping meaningful looks..........................................
Right-I have a complaint-now when a gentleman visits the bathroom he should be able to leave his drink & bowl of peanuts without fear of interference-it`s that bloody parrot isnt it---AWK-get away from there -you are 10 seconds away from being the worlds worst tasting kebab..........
Right-another round please Leon and -what the heck,break out the rum-tis saturday after all-will try and get some pix together soon-to be honest,is so long since I`ve done it,I `ve forgotten how(as the actress said to the bishop)
O.K-gonna sit in a corner and listen to Herr Wurlitzer for a while ( is that Curved Air`s `Back street love ` I hear)--Have a good weekend you all,will drop in soon-Leon-here`s a $20 for the next round-and some more tunes-be good folks,love to all
Nick
A quick postscript for ALLAN--
Slight confusion there mate-I`m not Welsh-I just live here-was a diabolical performance by the England team-the village girl guides could have done a better job-as to the world cup-we all thought you guys had it in the bag-as usual the French threw us all a curved ball-when they are good they are brilliant(lord it hurts me to say) and they did us a favour by taking out the AB`s and left us with the `boks (an evil bunch by any standards)-but--a bridge too far-I have huge respect for Graham Henry-he never had a chance over here but I will put money on the cup going home with you guys next time round-and deservedly so-here`s to it-take care mate !!-nick
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I'll just have a ham sandwich. Have been eating too much today so that should be enough. A cold Tui would be great!
I found some interesting stuff here today! I also found my circus train slides, scanned them and they will be found at the bottom of this post.
Tom – I did some research today and as far as i can tell the Zephyr Midnight 2000 got its name from the artist who painted the poster, Michael L. Kungl. At least it seems like he added the 2000. But I think we need some deeper research. That poster is still on sale, for $34.65. I found out the identity of that steam locomotive! It is former Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475 and the only known operating 4-8-0 in North America. More info on this link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-8-0_475Very nice photos from the Museum of Transportation! I can’t recall I saw the Missouri Pacific #6210 last year. It looks almost brand new. I recognize the other ones. Pete – The Circus train pix are included in this post. To my big surprise I found them this morning. Did #2253 serve in Poland? In that case it must have been equipped with air brakes and it looks like it has one hose for the air brakes and one for the vacuum brakes. What I dislike most about WalMart are those endless checkout lines. WalMart still has a lot to learn about customer service. That you got lost doesn’t surprise me. Or did you just use your stealth skills? I’ll take it that your photos are scanned using your new scanner? You can let the scanner software remove most of those foreign objects on your photos. There should be a box where you click for Dust removal. I personally don’t use it, I prefer to clean the slides/negatives before the scanning and for whatever is left I use a program like Photoshop to fix them up. You can also adjust so the darker areas of the phots get lighter before you scan them. Interesting photos! Rob – What is a good storm? Not a perfect storm, but a good one? I found out about the steam loco in Boone. See my response to Tom.Nice photos! I like those old cabooses and steam locos! Nickel Plate and Lackawanna. I guess from your comment that you don’t know anything about the locomotives. Do you know anything about the green streetcar in your Boston charter photos? Looks different!Lars – Me, trouble maker? No way, I just want to help! Thanks for the old posts! I miss BK (and lady Lydia) and Al. Never “met” Dan. Al wrote about Texas Eagle, the train we rode last year during the Rendezvous! Allan – I feel pretty much like being back to normal. No pain at all. Just a few soar spots.I found the info on the steam locomotive. See my response to Tom and Nick. Nick – Thanks for the info on the Zeppelins! Should be ready for action pretty soon!?!? Yes, I found out that #475 originally was Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475. Glad to see it is in operating condition.
Here are some photos from the World Circus Museum, Baraboo, WI, 1989. They show how they loaded a circus train using trucks and horses.
What ho everyone just in for a quick look around and a quick inventory of teh critters treat loset(s) everything seems in order so Boris a good round of treats for your menagerie and a small jar of PPF for you
Nick-Nice to see you back at your best mate Are you sure that you weren't out howling by the pub with the rest of the town tough's H&H may have mellowed but they still can get to the truth,<uh oh > they still have thier room full of gear <yikes> How did you get the Zepplin's augmentations part homeland security
Those underwear aren't just anyones' "tighty whities" are they
Eric-Great photo's sir I love seeing that old mack in use 5xlad you got to teh bottom of the steamer quetion. I think CM3 will be pleased.
"Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Yes, "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays - but as has been my practice of late, I try to get a leg up on the ACKNOWLEDGMENTS as they accrue - getting to be a bit "much" for early morning preparation . . . So, here she comes!
Saturday - Feb 2nd: <all times Central standard>
Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 9:31 AM: You were missed on Friday, but understandable when battling headaches - no fun. Hmmmmm, too much of a good time at "that other" pub you frequent frequently Now maybe I'm not feeling sorry for you . . . <grin> "They" say warm beer will induce headaches, dontchano! <uh oh>
Used to have a neighbor who drank bock beer - but first he'd pour it into a small pot, heat it up ‘n drink it hot. <yikes> Different strokes, eh Hot poker in cider - now that I've heard of . . . . not in anything else <unless we're speaking of torture!> <uh oh>
Another fine < I3 > Post! Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 178 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:14 AM ‘n 10:21 AM: Undoubtedly a Rendezvous in Maine would be a fine time - as would one in the Canadian Maritimes - or the Pacific northwest - or Alaska - or the British Isles - or New Zealand - or . . . . <yikes> As the saying goes, "So many gals rail museums, so little time!" <grin>
I seriously doubt that my efforts to obtain dome seating for a complete round trip would "work." <frown> I'm a bit surprised at the "policy," in that these days one pays for dome seating at a premium price on excursion trains. If the line is an operating passenger route, then I'm not sure how they go about enforcing such a thing . . . but no need to expound on it. We'll most probably not be making that journey. Nice to think about though . . .
Nice fotos, especially the AC shot! <sweet>
Snow level has dropped to a bit less than half of what had fallen on Thursday-Friday. Expect by the end of this day it will be all slush ‘n mush. <arrrrrggggghhhhh>
Thanx for the visits!
Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 11 AM: Fine spate of fotos from your new scanner! Appreciate the write-ups too.
Advice: When preparing slides for scanning, be sure to turn your head before sneezing! <grin>
Just curious, why are you interested in the St. George Arms Sunday hours Planning a Sunday brunch I better be included!! <uh oh>
Pix, chat ‘n ROUND appreciated!
Page 178- Lars (LoveDomes) at 12:03 PM: An interesting sequence of UTBs - aside from BK, best to put ‘em on the <back burner> ‘n keep the place movin' on down the line.
Find it a tad disturbing to read about the continuing flap over the Patriots "cheating" and so forth. For cripes sakes - if they did what they've been accused of, does it make it any different from what the others have been doing all along Doesn't make it "right," but we hardly live in a perfect world ‘n Lord knows, I'm no where near perfection. The idea is to win - cheating is wrong, wrong, wrong - but only when you get caught so say quite a few. <groan> Amazing that these "revelations" come out just as Super Bowl Sunday is the talk of the town . . . <barf>
Let's GO GIANTS!
Round ‘n visit most appreciated!
Page 178 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:42 PM: As always, a fine inclusive offering from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . February 3rd thru 9th: Death in Paradise (2006) Starring: Tom Selleck, Edward Edwards, Brendan Kelly, Kerri Smith & Vito Rezza - and - The Longest Yard (2005) Starring: Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Burt Reynolds, Nelly (III) & Walter Williamson. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Pests in a Mess (1945).
Death in Paradise (2006)
PLOT SUMMARY: The always dependable Tom Selleck returns as Robert B. Parker's small town police chief Jesse Stone in Death in Paradise, the made-for-TV sequel to Stone Cold, his 2005 debut as the character. Stone is a grittier, more human (and vulnerable) role than the one that made Selleck famous (playboy detective Thomas Magnum of Magnum, P.I.), but his tenacity and character flaws (a drinking problem and latent feelings for his ex-wife) seem a comfortable fit for the older Selleck. And the mystery itself--which surrounds the death of a young student whose connections to big-city crime--is crisp and convoluted (if not particularly novel), which provides Selleck with enough action and drama to please his longtime fans. William Devane and Gary Basaraba (Boomtown) are among the guest stars, while Viola Davis, Vito Rezza, and Kohl Sudduth return from Stone Cold as Selleck's police officers. Selleck also contributed to the script and co-produced along with director Robert Harmon, who helmed the other Stone films. --Paul Gaita
The always dependable Tom Selleck returns as Robert B. Parker's small town police chief Jesse Stone in Death in Paradise, the made-for-TV sequel to Stone Cold, his 2005 debut as the character. Stone is a grittier, more human (and vulnerable) role than the one that made Selleck famous (playboy detective Thomas Magnum of Magnum, P.I.), but his tenacity and character flaws (a drinking problem and latent feelings for his ex-wife) seem a comfortable fit for the older Selleck. And the mystery itself--which surrounds the death of a young student whose connections to big-city crime--is crisp and convoluted (if not particularly novel), which provides Selleck with enough action and drama to please his longtime fans. William Devane and Gary Basaraba (Boomtown) are among the guest stars, while Viola Davis, Vito Rezza, and Kohl Sudduth return from Stone Cold as Selleck's police officers. Selleck also contributed to the script and co-produced along with director Robert Harmon, who helmed the other Stone films. --Paul Gaita
The Longest Yard (2005)
PLOT SUMMARY: Prison inmates form a football team to challenge the prison guards. Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team. <A remake of a 1974 movie starring Burt Reynolds; shown at the Emporium - Jan 21-27, 2007>
Prison inmates form a football team to challenge the prison guards. Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team.
Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team.
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Booby Dupes (1945)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help. < Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help. < Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waitin' for the bar to open!!
Can you believe it My JINTS WON! They are the 2008 Super Bowl Champs 'n played their butts off against the no-longer-perfect-Patriots!
JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON!
Drinks on the Da Larsman come Monday morning throughout the day!
And Boris, give the crittAHs double rations too!
Until the next time!
Lars
Just popped in to make sure that the pool room's intact after the upset of upsets Gongrats to the Gints and to our Manager who nevah gave up on them. Perfect Smerfect I alway's say
Tom-Great movie choices for the week down at the ole Emporium,hopefully it and most of the downtown mentor village will still be standing come morning. I hear that Inspector clueless has called out the Fusiliers and the Mentor Villiage Civil War retiree's groups to maintain order<uh Oh> Copperkettle has boarded up the Zepplin Sheds, and Boris Leon and H&H have donnned the spiked Helmets and body armour,even Spikes wearing a metal collander
Lars-Thanks for picking up the tab for monday morning , we may have to move to the high ground near the Zepplin sheds though.Look teh fusiliers are practicing.
Perhaps CM3 and his roving reporter can give us a blow by blow of what has happened.
Hmm, at least it is not snowing this dark Sunday evening/Monday morning. Where is... oh, there it is. Down with this note and back home again.
Rob – Glad you liked the photos! I am sorry I couldn’t provide the sound of that old truck! I found the steamer from Boone right away when I Googled. It found a new life in Strasburg. Did the war start? Let’s hope our Super Reporter CM3 can tell us the whole story.Tom – I think that artist added 2000 when he painted the poster, just to make it look even more futuristic. As you already mentioned, let’s spend some time on that topic in May at the library. Two fine movies for this week at the Emporium! Death in Paradise and Longest Yard! Plus, of course, the Three Stooges!
Maybe something for Can Am Railway? A circus train and a circus!Lars – I know, I know, Jints won! As a matter of fact I was hoping they were going to win, but don’t tell anyone. Eric
A smile to begin the week!
Why buy good luggage? You only use it when you travel..
<A Yogi-ism!>
It's THAT day again - MONDAY! <arrrrgggghhhh> But a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do - so drag yourself in here, kick start the day with a mugga Joe, a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast. That should help ya!
Congrats to the Super Bowl Champion Giants! <who wudda thunk it, eh >
Sunday- Feb 3rd: <all times Central standard>
Page 179 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:37 PM: SELL-A-BRAY-SHUN!
Page 179 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:54 PM: Back with concern for the well-being of "Our" Place after the "upset of upsets"! Great looking shots of the Home Guard - kinda strange that Mentor Village would erupt in such a manner - after all, "our" team, Mentor Marauders weren't involved. Hmmmmmm.
Great to see ya!
Monday - Feb 4th:
Page 179 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:11 AM: In with some brief commentary ‘n a fine looking model circus foto! Thought you'd still be at the stadium - enjoying the party atmosphere in that private suite you were spotted in. And WHO was the "brunette," hmmmmm
Appreciate the visit!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Artie, fly up and check the lightning rods, please. We just had a ferocious thunderstorm (purple lightning was a nice touch - no, Boris, it's not what we toasted the Giants with last night), so we are a tad late this a.m.
LARS - Yes, they did! Lights burned late in the east wing last night, believe me! Thanks to OSP for appropriate recognition this a.m.
DL visited with comments - good to hear from you.
Rob sent a lot of material "Mat-ta-wan" is, of course, in New Jersey.
Enjoyed the pictures taken behind the old Erie station at Hamburg, NY. Track is still active. The cabs and I1s all belong to the Western NY Railroad Historical Society which is a quite large and active group. You can Google the name and listen to the locomotive whistles on their website. Also look at their other buildings, etc. BTW, Straits Shows unloads just to the right of where you made your pictures. I was at Seashore yrs. ago - well remember riding them open cars.
Interesting pictures in Boston - type 5 and an LRV. The former has survived the latter cars.
DD1 visited as well. I did see the tank restoration story awhile back. They have lots of toys and a big shop area as well. The turret removal and restoration on (for the life of me I can't remember the name, but it was a UK tank), was fascinating.
Nick - Good to hear from you - Now we have ZAG (Zeppelin Airship Restoration Group). The Greater Mentor Airship Observation Corps is waiting to stagger into action at the first report of any suspicious activity.
BTW, I know you probably didn't bother with the Super Bowl at all, but FEDEX did have an inspired ad on use of carrier pigeons for shipping goods - wonder what they were consuming when they made that one - hope you get to see it sometime as you would truly appreciate it.
Eric - Mack trucks, work horses, friction bearings - life is good - thanks for the pictures.
Pete was by with some truly vintage items. A compound 4-4-0; not something you see every day.
OSP - Travel via New York or Washington - Can see the P Company slogan now. The ancient and honorable one in our family took a trip to Columbus, OH back during WW2 - coach of course - double headed K4s over Horseshoe, and took advantage of the side routing to Washington to go to the opening of the National Gallery. He said the paintings were well worth seeing, but so was the show west of Altoona.
Tug is an excellent game, but the K9 Korps prefers fetch - this involves chasing stuff and then burying it, or sometimes bringing it back to repeat the process.
A set of action ‘moom pichers at the Theatuh - bring it on! Last, the 4-8-0 was, indeed, around on the N&W for a long time. It's Boris's favorite locomotive class, "Mastodon," of course.
Work safe
Hi Tom
I'll have a pint (and I'll have a Sheppy's Somerset Cider since Nick reminds me of how good they are) - whilst trying to return to the post I did not get finished before. Mind you - spotted those great pics of cars at the museum you posted - they are nicely finished and protected indoors of course.
Nick - Just caught your more recent post where you mention the ONR - Round trip - I guess you will have missed it, but I did the ONR Toronto - Moosonee trip in late summer (trip report posted on these pages). You could do the round trip - but you'd have to use an ONR bus from Cochrane to Hearst (perfectly feasible as I saw the bus) - rails still used that way it looked to me - just not for passengers. Anyway - I took a copy of that railway magazine article from 1963 (?) you scanned for me along with me and gave a copy to the very friendly ONR folks at their Cochrane HQ for their interest. (Tom might know how to find my trip report on prev pages - not sure I know).
CM3 - looks like you've got a load of weather!
Rob - I see some Redcoats in those pictures! Enjoyed those ACR shots too.
Ron - VW Karman Ghia - that was a nice car! There's one in my town I see from time to time being driven about, painted in maroon.
On the subject of hot pokers in ale I've seen a chap do this once in a pub - but he was real ‘bar bullxxxter' who kept doing it to draw attention to himself - so I was not going to ask him why. I assume you'd do it in winter if your beer from the cellar was too cold due to climate (Tom, I know your going to be aggrieved at this concept...). Of course you can use Smokeless coal in a smoke free area Pete!
Lars - hope all's well down on the Keys - looks like you are not missing the sport!
Allan - interesting to read that your family pushed you in the direction of the Army rather than underground (not to say you didn't have your own preferences anyway) - just goes to show how dangerous mining was considered to be if life in the military in the cold war period was seen as lower risk!
You are right about the Beavertail - the BR rebuild does look like a GWR railcar, apparently he original design did not actually offer a very good view to the people inside it hence the rebuild for use in Scotland in the 1950s.
For comparison:
BR rebuild (as recently restored on GCR)
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10173788&wwwflag=2&imagepos=1
LNER original build (to be restored on GCR like this)
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10459955&wwwflag=2&imagepos=4
GWR railcar (later design)
http://www.kesr.org.uk/diesel_locos/20.htm
GWR railcar - original shape
http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/grcwandd.htm
The second of the 2 surviving beavertails is to be restored to the original LNER shape. This has been moved from Carnforth down to Barrow Hill near Chesterfield for store prior to start of restoration work according to chap I asked at Loughborough GCR the other weekend.
Eric - you mentioned scanning slides regarding dirt on them to Pete - I had a query as I have some old family slides which are dirty - I can imagine dry dust should be dealt with using a camera lens brush - but some have more ingrained dirt (inc small mould spores which is a problem from damp English houses) - any idea how to clean them without damaging them - I was thinking of asking for professional advice but fear it might "gag a healthy maggot" to pay someone to do it!
Pete - I bet you wish you'd kept that Rugby departure poster - I enjoy reading the one they have on display at Loughborough from the old Nottingham Victoria station - departures right though the night - many to far flung destinations like Hastings leaving at 12.45am etc.
I like the BR blue livery too - seen a Merchant Navy at GCR in it I think - they must have decided it would take too much cleaning and went for the dark green all too quickly, but the blue is good, as shown on that A4.
Yes, it was a good day at the GCR gala - sunny and cold.
For Rob's amusement I'm going to post the loco list WITH NUMBERS!
LMS 4F 44422 ; GWR 4141 large Prairie ; SR King Arthur 30777 ; BR Std Cl 2 78019 ; GWR Hall 4953 ; LMS 8F 48305
On other matter's you've asked about Pete I did my best to find out - so here goes:
I think they could do 60mph at Quorn with no passengers on board as they have the line tamped up since they allowed Network Rail engineers to train on it and got the line tamped for speed as part of the deal. The sound of the approaching train was superb
Some of the windcutters look like they need a lick of paint now, but the rake is still impressive. You must have been pleased to see the fruits of your donation.
Other things at the GCR of note was a display about a plan to rebuild a replica of a Victorian GCR design (GCR Class 2 or what became an LNER D7 4-4-0) - using a spare boiler of suitable outline. This was alongside info on restoring vintage carriages. They seem to have a variety of teak bodied pre 1939 LNER carriages in various states of dereliction at Swithland. Then they have about 3 or 4 GCR Barnums (so named because the look like the cars used by the Barnum and Bailey Circus troupe of the period) - these have been moved to GCR Nottingham site for restoration - some work has been done but I don't think any are finished. Some more details are:
http://www.gcr-rollingstocktrust.co.uk/articles_output.asp?id=11&checkSource=sitemap
They also have some vintage GCR wooden suburban carriages which are also in a fairly frail state. They would like to run them behind the 4-4-0 if the can be renovated.
They have a plan to build a traditional brick carriage shed at Swithland on the old quarry siding branch and are trying to raise £50k to clear the site and lay track. They have recently cut down self seeded trees on this so you can see the line of the siding.
On the subject of the Workington loco shed they have a good model in the Loughborough station museum of the proposed reconstruction - it looks good, and looks large! The main problem here seems to be the construction of access to the proposed site - including rebuilding the canal bridge and another bridge over stream. I honestly don't know how they can manage such a large project but clearly they intend to do so. It will be a world class locomotive restoration facility.
Meanwhile the factory next to the GC station at Loughborough has been demolished for a housing development. This must have been the station goods yard. The old goods shed (GC shed) has not been demolished so maybe the GCR own this and can link it to their tracks? It is large and would make a good carriage storage shed or similar. A house style building at the edge of the site (clearly what was once the GCR goods offices, opposite the hotel) is also the only other building on the site not cleared, so maybe the property developer intends to turn this into flats and keep it.
On a final matter - your mention of EE Class 20 diesels reminds me of my student days when they would head coal trains along the line at the end of the road from the house we rented - we were only about 75 meters away from the line and the house would shake when they went past. About 3 runs per day from Notts collieries to Toton yard. They certainly sounded like helicopters so deserved the ‘chopper' nick name. At this time this was the only traffic on this route, but since then it has been re-opened to passengers use as part of the Robin Hood line to Worksop.
Britannia was in the shed stripped to frames but looking like it was ready to start putting back together - they need to get this ready for August for the 15 Guinea special commemorations do they not - the loco has outlived BR!!
Cheerio
Ps - By the way trial running of the new A1 Tornado steam loco is to be held on the GCR this year - should be in Sept if all goes to plan - see: http://www.a1steam.com/update.html
Good day Tom and all present at the bar by the siding. Please give a round of drinks.
Nick: Thanks for straightening me out about the hot poker thing.
Tom: Down here in the south, they call hoagies, grinders and heroes "po-boys". One of the most famous being fried shrimp mixed with mayo and stuffed onto a soft roll. Very similar to a Maine lobster roll, but shrimp instead.
Glad to hear your Jints won. I couldn't watch the game as my TV service wants a lot of money to watch "premium" channels. It seems that TV is moving away from free broadcasting, as there doesn't seem to be very much to watch anymore. Call me cheap, but I refuse to pay for programming, I used to get for free. I subscribe to a "basic" satellite service and that's it. If I had my way, I wouldn't have a TV at all, but the missus wants it. Radio suits me just fine.
I haven't gotten around to looking at the latest posts, but hope the following edition of the Events of 1936 will give food for thought. As I went through this list, I discovered much that I didn't know.
Courtesy of Wikipedia
The Allen Paper Wheel was introduced in 1869. It had a centre core built up from strawboard with steel or iron plates bolted on the front and rear. It was widely used in North America between 1880 and 1915. The original invention was as a substitute for the wood core of wheels with steel tires. Compressed paper was substituted for wood at the core. When compressed it was said to be as hard as ivory yet soft enough to cushion the ride and reduce wheel noise and vibration. Pullman tested the wheels and eventually adopted them as standard. A "Paper Wheel" would have a ring of bolts all around the wheel center. (Thanks to Paul Bown and Steve Hunter for this explanation). I had mentioned previously about there being a prototype for everything. The wheels for my locomotive are made of plywood. I may/may not wrap the treads with brass strips.
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