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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 3:11 PM
G'day Captain Tom!

Thought I would pay a call on you over here, as things are rather quiet in both places.

Nice pix from the two of you and the past several nostalgia pieces have been educational as well.[tup]

I am heading over to the bar, so until then!

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 7:11 PM
Evenin' Lars 'n BK

Nice selection, Lars[tup] - appreciate your stopping by, BK!

Check out this, perhaps one of the most familiar of the British steamers:

Great Britain: LMS Royal Scot Class 6100 Royal Scot(Public Domain)


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 7:14 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #58

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Reading Lines

Headquarters: Philadelphia, PA

Mileage in 1950: 1,286

Locomotives in:

1930:
Steam: 930
Diesel: 2 (box cab switchers)

1963:
Steam 4
Diesel: 337

Rolling stock in

1930:
Freight cars: 43,298
Passenger cars: 910 (includes MU self-propelled)

1975:
Freight cars: 12,213
Passenger cars: 176 (includes MU self-propelled and RDCs)

Principal routes in 1950:

Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York via ferries, floats)
Philadelphia-Bethlehem, PA
Philadelphia-Reading, PA
Philadelphia & Camden-Atlantic City, NJ
Manville-Port Reading, NJ
Reading-Harrisburg, PA
Reading-Allentown, PA
Reading-Newberry Jct. (Williamsport), PA
Reading-Wilmington, DE
Harrisburg-Hagerstown, MD (through arrangement Hagerstown-Lurgan, PA)

Passenger trains of note:

Crusader (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Wall Street (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Schuylkill (Philadelphia-Pottsville, PA)
King Coal (Philadelphia-Shamokin, PA)
Harrisburg Special (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg
Queen of the Valley (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg)
North Penn (Philadelphia-Bethlehem


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 10:10 AM
Good Morning!

Lonely around here - but just in case Al - Lars or BK stops by, check this out!


Reading Lines railway map (1923)


Later![tup]

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Posted by BudKarr on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 11:54 AM
Greetings Captain Tom!

Rather lonely over here without Sir Al, eh[?] Look at the bright side - no page filling "dumps of data!!"[swg]

About the only thing I know (or knew) about the Reading is that when playing the board game called Monopoly, that is one of the four railroads on the board! Not much on the passenger side, I would surmize, but probably very busy in coal country.

Must get back to my chores - just wanted to stop by the bar and am elated about Lars! Great choice![tup]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 2:19 PM
Hi Tom

Just stopped by after visiting the bar - and am I ever surprised! Thank you!![tup][tup][tup]

I see Bk has gotten here ahead of me - again![swg]

Here's a meager contribution from me, theme or not:

Reading: F7A 271 (1978) (from: www.readingrailroad.org)


Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 6:35 PM
Good Evening!

Switching gears . . . .

Germany: ICE Train (GNU Free Documentation)


Thanx for stopping by BK 'n Lars!! Great Pix of that Reading diesel![tup]

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, March 9, 2006 6:50 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #59

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville - Monon (The Hoosier Line)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage in 1950: 573

Locomotives in 1951

Diesel: 57

Rolling stock in 1951:

Freight cars: 2,609
Passenger cars: 59

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Indianapolis
Louisville-Michigan City
Wallace Junction-Midland
Orleans-French Lick

Passenger trains of note:

Bluegrass (Chicago-Louisville)
Chicago Limited (Indianpolis-Chicago)
Day Express (Chicago-Louisville)
Daylight Limited (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Executive (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Hoosier (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Hoosier Limited (Chicago-French Lick)
Night Express (Chicago-Louisville)
Thoroughbred (Chicago-Louisville)
Tippecanoe (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Varsity (Chicago-Bloomington)
Velvet Train (Chicago-Cincinnati)
Mid-Night Special (Chicago-Cincinnati)

Of note:
Trains east of Indianapolis handled by Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton
Monon operated on Chicago & Western Indiana tracks between Hammond and Dearborn Station.
Monon operated on Kentucky & Indiana Terminal tracks between New Albany-Youngstown Yard-Union Station.


Enjoy! [tup]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:15 AM
G'day Tom

Still no 20 FIngers[?] Strange, since we "saw" him "out & about" yesterday ....

A little something from me for the MONON:

MONON herald


MONON at Linden RR museum 2005 (Creative Commons) photo: Steve Lamb


See ya at the bar![tup]

Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, March 9, 2006 12:27 PM
G'day!

Something of interest about the MONON:

QUOTE: Timeline

1847: The New Albany & Salem Railroad is organized with James Brooks as president.

1854: The NA&S trackage stretches from the Ohio River (at New Albany) to the Great
Lakes (at Michigan City).
1859: The overextended and struggling NA&S is reorganized as the Louisville, New Albany & Chicago Railroad.

April 30, 1865: The LNA&C becomes one of twenty railroads to haul Abraham Lincoln's funeral train, from Lafayette, Indiana to Michigan City, Indiana.

1881: The LNA&C consolidates with the Indianapolis & Chicago Air Line, and the trackage of the new division is soon extended to reach into its namesake cities.

July 1, 1897: The LNA&C is reorganized as the Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville Railway Co.

1932: The 300 pound (136 kg) Monon Bell is first presented as the trophy of the annual football matchup between DePauw University and Wabash College.

1946: John W. Barriger III becomes President of the Monon, bringing aggressive plans for modernization.

January 11, 1956: The CI&L officially adopts its longtime nickname, Monon, as corporate title.

1959: The Monon's passenger service between Chicago, Illinois and Indianapolis, Indiana is discontinued.

September 30, 1967: Final day of regularly-scheduled passenger train service on the Monon.

July 31, 1971: The Monon is merged into the Louisville and Nashville Railroad.

1999: Portions of the line were converted to a bicycle and pedestrian trail known as the Monon Trail in Indianapolis, and later in Carmel, Indiana. Further expansion in Hamilton County, Indiana is planned.
from: Wikimedia.com

Later![tup]

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Posted by BudKarr on Thursday, March 9, 2006 1:54 PM
Good Day Captain Tom


Here is a first for me over here, mark it down! I am going to provide two photos from my newly established internet account with PhotoBucket.com. Amazing, eh[?]

ICE Train at Munich, Germany (credit: www.freefoto.com)


and

ICE Train at Munich, Germany


How is that[?][swg] An accomplishment for the likes of me![tup]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, March 9, 2006 2:51 PM
Hi Tom!

That's a killer site you found, BK! Some great stuff for future use. Like those ICE cubes.[swg]

So, my guess is our pal, Al ain't comin' by today. Therefore, it's up to the three of us to keep this thread alive. Check these out:

British: 7903 GWR modified Hall Class "Foremarke Hall" {GNU Free Documentation)



British: GWR 5224 Winchcombe (GNU Free Documentation)


I'm headin' over to the bar . . . [tup]

Until the next time!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 9, 2006 5:42 PM
Passenger fan:

The 1938 Century consist you included in your NYC post would have included 2 dining cars, not 1. The diners were built to be run with the dining rooms ends joined and the kitchen ends attached to the adjacent sleepers. Each dining room had three sections: a dinette with 2 4-seat tables nearest the kitchen; the main dining room with tables of various sizes seating 1 to 5 people; and a second dinette. The second dinette had windows at the end of the car so that when two diners were running back-to-back, patrons could look through to the next car, giving the impression of a long series of rooms. When the cars were operated singly, the windows were covered with mirrors.

The original plan had been to run two sections of the Century each way, one with 13 cars including 2 diners and one with 10 cars and 1 diner. I don't know how often the Century had enough patronage to make operating both sections worthwhile (before the traffic surge of WWII, of course). I've gotten the impression that streamlining did not attract much patronage to the Century. I know it didn't help the Broadway (see an old Trains or Classic Trains article, "A Tale of Two Trains," about the Broadway and the Trail Blazer).

Also, the original color scheme for the streamlined Century was light gray with a dark gray window band (not blue), with two aluminum stripes in the middle of the window band. Blue stripes bordered the window band, separating it from the lighter gray of the rest of the body.

I believe your statement that the Detroiter did not carry a dining car is incorrect. I've never seen a Detroiter consist in an NYC timetable that did not include a dining car. Perhaps you were thinking of the Cleveland Limited?
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 10, 2006 7:09 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #60

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Illinois Terminal (IT)

Headquarters: St. Louis, MO

Mileage in 1950: 462

Locomotives in 1950:

Steam: 14
Diesel: 18
Electric: 38
Battery Diesel-electric: 2
Battery trolley: 1
Diesel trolley 1

Rolling stock in 1950:

Freight cars: 1,868
Passenger cars: 63

Principal routes in 1950: (Illinois, except as noted)

St. Louis, MO-Peoria
Springfield-Danville
Decatur-Mackinaw Jct. via Bloomington
Alton (Federal)-East St. Louis via Edwardsville
Alton- (Federal)-East St. Louis via Granite City
Venice-Grafton via Mitchell
Troy Jct.-O’Fallon

Passenger trains of note:

Capitol Limited (St. Louis-Peoria)
City of Decatur (St. Louis-Decatur)
Fort Crevecoeur (St. Louis-Peoria)
Illini (St. Louis-Champaign)
Illmo Limited (St. Louis-Peoria
Mound City (St. Louis-Peoria)
Owl (St. Louis-Peoria)
Peoria Flyer (St. Louis-Peoria)
St. Louis Flyer (Peoria-St. Louis)
Sangamon (St. Louis-Peoria


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Friday, March 10, 2006 7:56 AM
Good Morning Tom!

Man, that's a diffiuclt road to find anything on . . . however, here's something "borrowed" from http://www.illinoistractionsociety.org/ (as always: no intent to profit from this material, nor to claim it as my own - just for fun!)

QUOTE: The Illinois Terminal was a unique railroad. It served Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri from 1895 to 1981, successfully making the transition from a collection of street railroads to one of the Midwest's premier interurbans, the Illinois Traction System. Later, as it continued to grow and absorb several St. Louis area switching railroads, it evolved into the well-run Class 1 railroad, Illinois Terminal. Over its lifetime, it survived two World Wars and the Great Depression to evolve from an electrically operated interurban closely associated with the electric utility industry to an electric, steam, battery and diesel powered railroad and finally to a completely dieselized freight-only railroad. Yet, even during much of its six-axle locomotive era, the IT snaked through its territories on aging, 90 pound interurban rails. On its own, it outlasted such great railroads as the New York Central, Pennsylvania, Northern Pacific, Wabash and a score of others.

Regardless of the era studied, the Illinois Terminal did it like no other line; and generally did it with style and panache. Parlor cars sported mahogany and Spanish leather. Its electric freight motors, whether in Brewster green or "traction orange", were distinctly IT. And, even the "typical" was atypical on the Illinois Terminal. GP7's wore an eye catching green and yellow paint scheme when black and white was the norm, if not the rule. SW1200's spent nearly as much time in through-freight service as in the yards switching. Its six-axle diesel locomotives were SD39's - not SD40's!

The Illinois Terminal attracts railfans and historians from all parts of the country and from all railfan and historical special-interest subgroups. The IT evokes emotions and memories in everyone who remembers it, perhaps like no other line, large or small. For the modeler, it offers everything from frequent passenger service as one to five car trains, occasionally more, mixed in with short to moderate local and through freight trains and later 100+ car freight trains.

On May 8, 1982, the Illinois Terminal passed out of existence. However, it left a history that would fascinate and, in some cases, amuse any railfan or historian!

from: http://www.illinoistractionsociety.org/

See ya over at the bar![tup]

Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 10, 2006 8:54 AM
Hey Lars!!

Good work![tup] Just to clarify a "point," these Posts of mine are not necessarily "Theme setters." We leave that to 20 Fingers! Check the info over at the bar on his status ....

Here's a little something "else," on a different road:

CP Rail's Waterton Park car (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 10, 2006 11:05 AM
G'day!

Another Pix to keep things movin' . . . .

CP #15407 Kokanee Park as Silver Streak for movie (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)


Later![tup]

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Posted by BudKarr on Friday, March 10, 2006 1:08 PM
Hello Captain Tom

Now those CP Rail dome observation cars are great looking inside and out. Each time I see one, I am reminded of my trip to Vancouver from Winnipeg with the party that 'broke out." I believe that was posted on these pages, but of course, without comment.

As someone who really had little time for movies, I am unfamiliar with the "Silver Perhaps will find a copy just to check out the trains! They took a CP train and redecorated some of it for the flick[?] Well, that is Hollywood, eh[?][swg]

Speaking of comments, is it me, or have we attracted someone with just a bit of "negativity"? Amazing is it not, how some can be a bit confrontational all the while seemingly hiding behind a "mask" of anonymity[?] I cannot and will not defend information I know very little of, however, the approach is bothersome. In real life .... well, enough said. I think we both know how it would be handled.

I expect to be back at the bar on Sunday with some pix - so fair warning![swg]

By the way, I left a posting over there for you.

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Posted by LoveDomes on Friday, March 10, 2006 2:43 PM
Yo Tom!

'Tis I, Lars from the bar . . . so what's new over here[?] Hate to tell you this, but I saw 20 FIngers posting elsewhere. What's with that, huh[?]

BK If you like to laugh, the "Silver Streak" flick is a good one. Some great train shots too. Tom Nice CP Rail pix . . . . [tup]

Illinois Terminal[?] Sorry, mate - that's a "toughie." Let's see what I've got in the Photo Bucket . . .

Reading FTA/B 251 (late 1940s) (from: www.readingrailroad.org)


Hey BK I concur with your comments on the "visitor." Maybe it's me, but I detected something other than sincerity. Did a search on his posts, pretty much the same on this thread - a pattern. Some of these guys would be better served using email for their grips, complaints and "corrections." But apparently this person likes the "shadows," no email. What does that tell ya[?] Wherever you are Al ignore him.

Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 10, 2006 3:45 PM
G'day!

Good to see ya again guys! Appreciate your help in keeping this Thread up 'n running!![tup]

This will make ya want to take a train trip!

ATSF Along Your Way (1945) (fair use)


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 10, 2006 3:58 PM
G'day!

One more!

GN Dome Coach (courtesy: www.trainweb.com)


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 10, 2006 8:23 PM
Good Evening!

Still no takers, eh[?] Okay - here's another!

Ireland: Irish Rail #215 at Grand Canal Dock DART (2001) (GNU Free Documentation)


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:51 AM
G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #61

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Union Pacific (UP) in a 1933 advertisement from my private collection:

The trail to “Wonderland”

Union Pacific serves 15 of our National parks and more of the famous scenic wonderlands of the West than does any other railroad. Plan now to see the west this summer. We suggest:

Zion-Bryce Canyon
. . .Yellowstone-Grand Teton
. . . . . .Rock Mountain-National Parks
. . . . . . . . . Colorado
California and Hawaii
. . . Pacific Northwest and Alaska
. . . . . .Western Dude Ranches
. . . . . . . . .Hoover Dam

All costs are down. Rail fares are the lowest ever offered. Sightseeing rates, hotels, meals – in fact, all expenses are reduced.

UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .OVERLAND . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:55 AM
G'day!

Check this out!

UP City of Los Angeles (www.trainweb.org)


Enjoy![tup]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:32 PM
Greettngs Tom!

Take a ride with me . . . .

Lounge area in UP dome car (from: www.trainweb.org)


Catch ua over at the bar![tup]

Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:01 PM
G'day!

Something from Germany!

Germany: ICE 3rd generation Train(Wikipedia)


Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:11 PM
Hey Tom!

Just on my way home from the bar . . . thought I'd drop by. Just YOU, eh[?]

Check this out:

Union Pacific "special" being made up with business domes (www.trainweb.org)



Until the next time!

Lars
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:00 PM
Evenin' All!

Hi Lars! Like that UP!![tup] Suggest you put that "up" for Sunday Photo Posting Day! at the bar.

One more from me, then I'm calling it "quits" 'til the 'morrow ........

PGE 1964 Timetable [fair use]


So, why would a PASSENGER train timetable show a FREIGHT train on the cover[?]

Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:19 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #61

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Lehigh Valley Railroad (LV)

Headquarters: New York

Mileage in 1950: 1,254

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 210

Rolling stock in 1950:

Freight cars: 10,835
Passenger cars: 0

Principal routes in 1950:

Jersey City & New York City-Wilkes Barre, PA-Buffalo & Niagra Falls, NY (PRR tracks between Newark & Penn Station, NY)
Mountain Top-Pittston Jct., PA, via Avoca
Sayre, PA-Fair Haven, NY
Van Etten-Ithaca-Geneva, NY
Geneva-Auburn, NY
Ithaca-Canastota, NY
Rochester-Hemlock, NY
Sayre-Elmira & Horseheads, NY
Penn Haven Jct.-Hazleton-Mt. Carmel, PA
Towanda-Bernice, PA
South Plainfield-Perth Amboy, NJ

Passenger trains of note:

Black Diamond (New York City & Philadelphia-Detroit)
Maple Leaf (New York City-Toronto, ON)
The Star (New York City-Buffalo)
Asa Packer (New York City-Pittston & Hazleton)
The John Wilkes (New York City-Pittston & Hazleton)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:20 AM
Good Morning Tom - quiet, quiet, quiet. Not so over at the bar![tup] Great pix from the guys and I expect more to come . . . .

Here's my offering for this AM . . .

For Tom’s Alaska Trip! Alaska RR 2006 print


Until the next time!

Lars

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