G'day Gents!
Even though the bar is CLOSED today, I've enjoyed a bit of lunch and now it's nearly time to settle in to doing what comes naturally on Sundays - watching sports on the tube. <groan> Really <groan> - I'm not thrilled about giving up an afternoon engaged in such stuff - however - for an assortment of reasons, today I'm a couch potato! <grin>
Enjoyed the Pix from Rob 'n Doug ' Mike! Sorry, but anything that was contained in my PhotoBucket albums from Nick and the others that I Posted for, are gone - that in reference to Rob's comments on the ONR.
Lars, give it a rest, Mate! No need to get one's knickers in a knot over this stuff. Really, don't spend a whole hulluva lot of time with this stuff. It'll ultimately get straightened out and we WILL survive!
Eric, that PRR #5711 Pix you referred to did not have a date. However, it appears to be in rather recent times, judging by the stadium behind it (in Philadelphia). That loco is still a functioning piece of mean machinery for excursions. Here's another Pix of it:
PRR EMD E8 #5711 - (foto credit: Unknown - from: www.mdrails.com)
Here's another from the PRRs Liberty Ltd (modern era to the Army-Navy football games):
PRR Liberty Ltd for Army-Navy game (foto credit: unknown - from: www.prrths.com)
Okay, that's it from me for this day. See y'all on Monday . . .
Tom
Hi Tom and all.
On the puter again after a weekend of guests in for the Wolfes birthday bash.
Thanks for the encores TOM, LARS, DOUG, and ROB
MORE GRAT PHOTOS ON THIS PHOTO DAY.
DOUG Liked the Camel-Back on the depot pics and the McKeen doodlebug is an interesting car.The pic of the dog waiting for his master to arrive by train is great.
ROB Great shots of the F-Unit on the ONR.
MIKE Liked the color pics of the box-cars in the center of the city.A great photo of the steam locos in the snowy yard there must be at least 5 locos in steam.
LARS Hope the problems posting pics are solved soon. Does anyone know if the Advanced Search feature is still available
ERIK Glad you liked the link to the Llandudno Jct model railway there is another great site about the BR depot there.
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/llandudnoshed6g/index.html
TOM Three films at the Emporium this week I have not seen.
Great pic of the Pennsy#5711 on the move on the Army-Navy game special train, the misty day seems to add to the photo.
The pics from Alan this week are of some remains of the famed Tralee & Dingle narrow gauge railway in the south-west of Ireland.
Two pics of the most notable relic of the railway the Lispole Viaduct.
The site Glenmore station, grass covered platform to right.
The pub at the site of Camp Junction as Alan says, the biggest cause of Tralee and Dingle employees losing their jobs.
For more info on the line one link is
http://www.tdlr.org.uk/
Pete.
Wow ..pretty busy place for mostly being closed I think. Great to see manager Lars making sure everything is running smoothly, and that we're not breaking up the joint.I see Tom has provided this weeks movies as well as nifty PRR pix. Mike wins my award for most terrific pix of the day, but Alan's pix from Peter were nothing to sneeze at either. I got a chuckle on the pub note concerning employees losing their jobs. Oooops.
Here's my final salvo of pix for the day:
Frisco steam engine No. 4500 glistening on a rainy night at Springfield, Mn., station
Record-breaker. Passenger streamliner, AuRoRa, whose name contains Alaska Railroad initials, waits beside the line’s first saddle-tank engine on exhibition at Fairbanks. Diesels have cut old two-day Anchorage Fairbanks run to 13 ½ hours. Since modernization, ARR carries around 900,000 tons of freight a year.
Double-headed rotary gnaws doggedly at Alaska’s mountainous winter snows. This one is surplus Army equipment.
Long lines of oil tankers in the Texas & New Orleans yard at Beaumont, Texas.
The Canadian, a beautiful new Canadian Pacific train went into service April 24, 1955 on the 2881-mile run between Montreal and Vancouver, with a schedule that cuts 16 hours from the previous westbound elapsed running time. Present elapsed time is 71 hours and 10 minutes. A new Canadian National fast transcontinental limited, The Super Continental, took to the rails on the same day. It was a great day for Dominion railroading!
An engineer dies and reports to the pearly gates. St. Peter checks his dossier and says, "Ah, you're an engineer -- you're in the wrong place." So the engineer reports to the gates of hell and is admitted. Pretty soon, the engineer gets dissatisfied with the level of comfort in hell, and, as is the wont for engineers, starts designing and building improvements. After a while, they've got air conditioning and flush toilets and escalators, and the engineer is a pretty popular guy. One day God calls Satan up on the telephone and asks, "So how's it going down there in hell?"Satan replies, "Hey things are going great. We've got air conditioning, flushing toilets and working escalators, and there's no telling what an engineer is going to come up with next." God replies, "What! You've got an engineer? That's a mistake -- he should never have gotten down there; send him up here." Satan says, "No way. I like having an engineer on the staff, and I'm keeping him." God says, "Send him back up here or I'll sue." Satan laughs uproariously and answers, "Yeah right. And just where are you going to get a lawyer?"
Good morning Tom and friends. I'll have two light breakfasts, as I plan to return to work today. But just for a day, as I really need at least another daty to finish repainting our stupid condo so it can be shown again. Here's some "stuff" that goes along with all the Woodstock and Sycamore Traction Co. pix I submitted yesterday. Unfortunately, it's not a happy ending.
Photo was taken about 1939 at the Dunvegan Yard near Edmonton. No. 709 is in the foreground while No. 711 can be seen in the rear. Shortly after this photo both cars were shipped to different locations to become storage sheds.
McKeen cars No. 709 and No. 711 were the longest surviving equipment from the Woodstock and Sycamore Traction Company and outlived the railroad by at least four decades.
The three McKeen cars were withdrawn from service on April 1, 1914 when the Woodstock and Sycamore ceased operations for the first time. No. 711, the oldest of the three, had only been in service three years and nine months while No. 707, three youngest, had been in service less than three years. Apparently because it was the only car with a parcel post and express compartment, No. 707 was retained and remained on the property as a spare. It suffered an early demise and was scrapped in 1918 when the railroad was dismantled. No. 711 and No. 709 both were 75-passenger coaches. In late 1914, No. 711 and No. 709 were sold back to the McKeen Company in Omaha.
Both cars went back to the McKeen plant in Omaha where they were stored and offered for sale. Interest in the cars was expressed by the Alberta and Great Waterways Railway, a small railroad operating north from Edmonton, Alberta into a sparsely populated area with many lakes. The railway, however apparently wanted a baggage compartment rather than straight coaches. As part of the sales agreement, the McKeen Company agreed to modify the two cars prior to shipment.
No. 709 was rebuilt as a combination passenger and baggage car with seating for 48. No. 711 was rebuilt as a combination passenger and baggage car but also had a smoking section. Seating capacity on the 711 was 56 Oddly enough, in spite of the substantial rebuilding, the two cars retained their old Woodstock and Sycamore fleet numbers with their new owner. Both cars were delivered to the Alberta & Great Waterways Railway in 1915 and became the only McKeen cars to operate in Canada.
Initial service for the cars was a three times a week schedule from Edmonton to Lac la Biche. The run was about 100 miles north from Edmonton, and terminated near a resort development. For the next two years the cars were in reasonably regular service. However, the crews were apparently unhappy with the cars in the winter months because the heaters were no match for Alberta’s sever winter weather and left both passengers and crew uncomfortably cold.
In 1918 the resort development at Lac la Biche failed and the two McKeen cars were withdrawn from the route. They were then assigned to operate a six-day-a-week service from Edmonton north about 40 miles to Westlock.
The Alberta & Great Waterways Railway apparently had no better luck with the McKeen cars than did the Woodstock and Sycamore. It was reported that the two cars spent much time in the shop for one mechanical defect or another. At some point prior to 1921 it became necessary to take one car out of service and cannibalize parts in order to keep the other McKeen car operating.
At about this time, one car was loaned to the Lacombre & Northwestern for one summer only. The car was used to hold down a 25-mile run from Lacombe to Rimby, about 70 miles south of Edmonton. By this time McKeen No. 709 had been renumbered No. 1950 and No. 711 had been renumbered No. 1951. By the end of 1921 neither car was in service.
A short return to service came in 1923 when the Railway received a request to operate a special passenger movement. With a spirit of optimism, the Railway patched up one of the McKeens and sent it on its way (no doubt with crossed fingers). However, true to habit, only 15 miles outside of Edmonton the car had “a serious mechanical breakdown.” This undoubtedly was the last straw for both car bodies were subsequently stripped and then stored at the Dunvegan Yards (near Edmonton) until 1940. At about this time the cars were moved to other locations to be used as sheds for the storage of supplies. No. 709 went to Rycroft, Alberta, while No. 711 went to Dawson Creek, B.C.
Both cars continued to serve as storage sheds for the next two decades. At some point in the 1960’s, No. 709 was sold to a nearby farmer and an uncertain fate. At about the same time, No. 711 was cut up for scrap. By this time the Woodstock and Sycamore had been abandoned over 40 years.
Two small boys, not yet old enough to be in school, were overheard talking at the zoo one day. "My name is Billy. What's yours?" asked the first boy. "Tommy," replied the second. "My Daddy's an accountant. What does your Daddy do for a living?" asked Billy. Tommy replied, "My Daddy's a lawyer." "Honest?" asked Billy. "No, just the regular kind", replied Tommy.
This week, Ruth (our readhead) will be tending bar during the daytime - Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM (Central) 'til closing . . . .
A hearty good morning to one and all as we begin another work week (for many). For those of us who have "been there, done that," stroll over to your calendar to reinsure yourselves that this is indeed a Monday and August 21st!
A blue sky morning here in mid-continent USA, with temps the past couple of days very tolerable, but alas, little rainfall as our drought continues. Petrol up at Collusion Corner was $2.66 (rounded) yesterday - who knows which direction it will take as the oil speculators continue to have a field day with pricing.
Baseball has been occupying the minds of a few, as I see the northeast has witnessed something rather unusual, the Yankees taking four from the BoSox up in Fenway with game 5 set for today. That has just got to have wrangled the nerves of more than a few Beantowners. My Cardinals took a series from the Cubs at Wrigley, which in itself is rather unusual for them the past few years. Chicago's northsiders have put the whammy on the Red Birds, regardless of the standings. Great rivalry and some decent games too.
Our Photo Posting Sunday seems to be back to normal as our "dependables" arrived with some fine Pix - thanx Rob 'n Doug. Also appreciated seeing some Chicago input from Mike (in New York!) and a "relay" of Ireland RR Pix from Pete via his Mate over in Merry Olde! Good job guys, all 'round.
Sounds like Pete had one of those B'day celebrations that never ends! Way to go . . . . There's a drink-on-me awaiting you once we hook up for our next rail trip.
Lars, you "done good" with yesterday's bill o' fare here at the tavern by the tracks! The breakfast - lunch - brunch seems to have taken hold!
Doug, I enjoyed those "Doodlebug" Pix and again must remind one and all of their place in RR history as the forerunner of one of the most successful rail ventures ever - Budd's Rail Diesel Car (RDC). Also, that Pix of the Alaska RR's AuRoRa (Aurora) is quite interesting indeed. Don't have a clue what kind of a loco that is - wonder if any of our guys can help Anyway, the time of travel between Anchorage and Fairbanks is now 12 hours - and the Aurora still is in use in the off season - once per week from Anchorage to Fairbanks. That would be a trip to take - I'd love every clickety clack plowing through the snow in the mountain passes!
Set 'em up with all the OJ they can handle, Ruth and Boris ring the bell!
See y'all later . . . .
Good morning Tom and everyone, a <light> breakfast please
Doug, all I saw was the car http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B22770.jpg
Not counting the McKeen cars. How many were there?
http://www.oac.cdlib.org/affiliates/images/csdhi/kt0290182t/hi-res/80_6189.jpg
Probably it should've gone to Army-Navy games at Philadelphia, but it evidently didn't.
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T30/T3086-72dpi.jpeg
PRR train #58, Liberty Limited near Pierceton, Indiana July 16, 1953
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00014456+OP-14456
Mike
Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!
Still morning here in the mountains, but noon is rapidly approaching! Good day to you Ruth and my oh my, have not seen such brilliant red on top of the head since . . . A number three from the menu board and a mug of Java with just a "splash" to make it interesting if you please! Thank you.
We are making ready for our trip which begins on Wednesday. A couple of nights in Edmonton, then Calgary, then perhaps into the mountains to one of our favourite retreats, then home again, home again, jiggidy jog! Come fly with me - remember that one from Frankie Boy One of my all time good listening tunes. Lydia is beginning to settle down with her trepidation with me at the controls and insists it is not the Pilot causing her anxiety, but the rather small size of the plane. Told her I would continue looking for a 747, but try not to get your hopes up!
Thanks Sir Tom for the help with the photo posting. I had wanted to have something for tomorrow and the New York Central "Theme for the Day." Apparently something is on the Fritz with my PhotoBucket, for when I use your photo Urls, they seem to come through just fine. So, again, thank you for the use of them.
From what I have observed, Sunday was a successful venture as the guys appear to be in good form once again! The idea of having a breakfast, brunch and lunch is a grand idea and Lydia and I will surely partake in a Sunday morning on the patio in the near future.
For those of you who have NOT checked out the Url that Captain Tom provided a few days ago on the Liberty Ltd of the PRR, you should. Here it is again - http://www.prrths.com/Army%20Navy/PRR_Liberty_Limited.htm
Check out the 43 Urls beneath the photo of PRRs #5711. There are some fantastic photos of the trains that brought so many to the Army-Navy football games in Philadelphia - especially of the GG1s. It is indeed worth the time and effort.
Good interaction these past few days from the guys, especially Doug - Rob - Tom - Lars - Dave - Pete - Eric and Mike. My apologies in advance if I have missed anyone - those are the names that stood out as I read through the postings and their offerings.
A couple of more light-rail photos for your enjoyment:
A tram of the Luas system in Dublin, Ireland 2005 (from: www.wikipedia.com)
A Citadis tram in Melbourne, Australia 2004 (from: www.wikipedia.com)
Thanks to Sir Tom, looks like we are back in business with the photo posting!
Enjoy the day!
BK in Alberta, Canada's beautiful high mountain country!
G'day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth, I'd like TWO frosty cold mugs of Piels if you please and slide the snacks down my way. Nice to see ya behind the bar (gotta watch those words, could've really come out differently! and we'll be enjoying your company for the remainder of the week.
A Monday without CM3 Shane is like watching the Red Sox drop 4 to the Yankees! Sorry, just had to get that out . . . .
So what's shaking at the tavern by the tracks Been a rather uneventful weekend for me, in that if Captain Tom thought he was a couch potato, I surely was the sack full! Between the Mets, Yankees and football, I've got to swear off the tube before I begin looking a bit like our Cyclops friend, Boris. <yikes>
Want to thank our Proprietor, Mentor and Captain for the help in getting to the bottom of the pix posting situation. Looks like your advice has helped both BK and I - much appreciated. Tomorrow will tell the tale, for sure. Proves ocne again that old adage, if at first you don't succeed . . .
Really haven't got much to provide on this day other than to acknowledge the efforts of our stalwarts at the bar. Under this new format of ours, no point in "pressing" to keep posts coming - my thought is that as long as we remain "up on the forum page" with a few per day, we'll be in good shape. So, thanks to Dave - Tom - BK 'n Mike for the efforts of the day.
Nice looking LRVs from BK (didn't notice the young "thing" in the Aussie pix though!)
Turned down an invite to head up to Boston for today's game against the Yanks. Some friends of mine have tickets and offered me one. I would've jumped at the chance a few years ago - but now, just the thought of that round trip turns me off. It isn't the "nice" ride it used to be, plus going by train would most probably have required an overnighter - those days are over for me. It was nice to be asked, though. Just heard that the Yanks won, 2-1 - now that's unusual in Fenway to have such a low-run ball game. That's 5 straight. Keep CM3 Shane away from sharp objects! <grin >.
Okay Gents, time for me to set about the rest of the day. Hope to check in again tomorrow!
Until the next time!
Lars
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
Thanks to all who commented on the Irish pics I have a few left from the May trip.
DOUG Good last 4 pics on Sunday. The amount of oil tankers in one of the pics is amazing. I guess that it now goes by pipeline. Thanks for the info on the Woodstock & Sycamore and details of the 2 McKeen cars..
MIKE Good links liked the Pennsy Timetable for the Army-Navy game and as BK said, the link to the PRR site is really worth a visit all those GG1s in one place.Great photo of the steam loco servicing the GG1s suppling oil fuel and water for the steam heating boilers on the electrics locos.
Read about the Luas Tram system in Dublin it said the trams had made a profit a full year before it was expected to,carrying about 60,000 people, last year.
TOM We also did not have the rain they said we would, just a little on Sunday morning. The Birthday bash was put on hold till last weekend as more were able to come over from Kansas City then. There is quite a bit of beer left over, including some that Sam Adams has made, from recipes from the early settlers. Good to see the Cards doing well again, but as LARS says it was not a good weekend for Boston not only did the Red Sox lose 5-0 to the Yankees, Boston United F.C. (soccer) team lost 5-0 to the Mighty Shrewsbury Town in the English Division 2 on Saturday.
Another Bathams please RUTH and a round please.
Good morning Tom and friends. I’ll have two light breakfasts, as there’s nothing open this early in the AM! My bride begins her work at 5AM today, and I’ve taken another “vacation day” from work to sling more paint at the condo. Tom, your AuRoRa No. 1050 loco was a 1943 class B-B 1000HP at 740RPM, 6 cylinder, 122 ton baby with 40” diameter wheels. I find it interesting that the ARR has to use heavily insulated refrigerator cars, not to keep freight cold, but to do just the opposite to prevent its freezing! Thanks for the light rail photos from Dublin and Australia. Howdy hi’s to Lars and Pete who also stopped by yesterday, and to Mike for the Urls. I didn’t quite understand the question you asked. Could you rephrase it so my brain-stem can comprehend? Here’s a little joke to start your day:
A man met a woman in a bar and asked, "May I buy you a drink?". Looking back unimpressed at the man she replies, "Okay, but it won't do you any good." A little later, he asks, "May I buy you another drink?""Okay, but it still won't do you any good." He invites her up to his apartment and she replies, "Okay, but it won't do you any good." They get to his apartment and he says, "You are the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I want you for my wife." She says, "Oh, that's different. Send her in."
TODAY IS NEW YORK CENTRAL THEME DAY!
Watch for the arrivals on track #1 throughout the day!
Now arriving on track #1
RR Theme for the Day - Number One
New York Central Railroad (NYC)
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources.
Train No. 25 of the Boston & Albany Railroad, The 20th Century Limited, is seen
"Drumhead" logos such as these often adorned the ends of observation cars on the 20th Century Limited.
The 20th Century Limited was an express passenger train operated by the New York Central Railroad from 1902 to 1967, during which time it would become known as a "National Institution" and the "Most Famous Train in the World." In the year of its last run, The New York Times said that it "...was known to railroad buffs for 65 years as the world's greatest train." The train traveled between Grand Central Terminal in New York City and LaSalle Street Station in Chicago, Illinois along the railroad's famed "Water Level Route". The NYC inaugurated this train as direct competition to the Pennsylvania Railroad's Broadway Limited, both lines intended for upper class as well as business travelers between the two cities. Making few station stops along the way and as few breaks for water and coal as possible, trains on this route routinely could make the 800-mile (1,300-km) journey in only fifteen and one-half hours (roughly 50 mph or 85 km/h).
Known for its speed as well as for its style, passengers walked to and from the train on a plush, crimson carpet which was rolled out at station stops and specially designed for the 20th Century Limited; thus, the "red carpet treatment" was born.
History
On its inaugural trip June 17, 1902 the train arrived in Chicago at Union Station three minutes ahead of schedule. At that time, the trip took twenty hours, cutting four hours off the time previously required. The New York Times report laid great stress on the routine nature of the trip, with no special procedures being followed and no special efforts being made to break records. It stated that there "...was no excitement along the way," and quoted a railroad official as saying "...it is a perfectly practical run and will be continued," and the engineer (William Gates) as saying "This schedule can be made without any difficulty. I can do it every time, barring accidents."
An early, pre-1920 version of the 20th Century Limited.
In its heyday, regular passengers included Theodore Roosevelt, William Jennings Bryan, Lillian Russell, "Diamond Jim" Brady, the elder J. P. Morgan, Enrico Caruso, and Nellie Melba. In 1928, its peak year, it earned revenues of $10 million and was believed to be the most profitable train in the world. Also in 1928, Erwin "Cannon Ball" Baker, who eventually became the first commissioner of NASCAR, raced the 20th Century Limited from New York to Chicago in an automobile, beating the train. In 1938 the noted industrial designer, Henry Dreyfuss, was commissioned by the New York Central to design the streamlined train sets in Art Deco style, with the locomotive and passenger cars rendered in blues and grays (the colors of the New York Central). The streamlined sets were inaugurated in 1939.
Until 1957, the train only made station stops at Grand Central Terminal and Croton-Harmon for New York-area passengers and LaSalle Street Station and Englewood for Chicago-area passengers [1]. If trains ran on schedule they would pass halfway at Buffalo Central Station. The tracks of the New York and Harlem Railroad were used from Grand Central to the Spuyten Duyvil and Port Morris Railroad, which it used to reach the New York Central's main line along the Water Level Route, north along the Hudson River and west to Buffalo, then southwest and west on the Lake Shore and Michigan Southern Railway along the south shore of Lake Erie, and north into Chicago, merging with the Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad at Englewood. In
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox. How about two NYC-themed songs for today? First is a real tear-jerker, "In the Baggage Coach Ahead," followed by one of Boris's favorites (gets all 12 of his toes tapping) "Shuffle off to Buffalo."
"To Niagara in a sleeper,
There's no other way that's cheaper,
And the train goes slow..."
New York Central today - can't think of a better choice.
Here is something from 1944 re NYC sleeper service from WAYYYYY upstate to Pittsburgh. Again, this train wandered all over various compontents of the greater NYC system. Break out a map and follow along.
Pittsburgh - Massena Pullman Service
The Pittsburgh-Massena Pullman line was one of the more interesting ones that operated on the New York Central. In 1944, this service was a 12 section/2 double bedroom car.
Northbound, this sleeper departed Pittsburgh at 500 p.m. on P&LE train 33. It became NYC 84, the “Pittsburgh-Buffalo Express” at Youngstown. Train 84 operated to Buffalo via Ashtabula. At Buffalo, the Pittsburgh-Massena Pullman joined the consist of train 6, the “Fifth Avenue Special” which carried it to Utica. It became part of St. Lawrence Division train 55 at Utica, and concluded its journey on train 55-17 Monday through Saturday and on train 55-717 on Sunday.
Here’s the northward schedule:
Lv Pittsburgh 500 pm
Lv Youngstown 628 pm
Lv Ashtabula 805 pm
Lv Buffalo 1111 pm
Lv Utica 246 am
Lv Watertown 640 am
Arr Massena 955 am (920 am on Sundays)
The southbound run was a little different. The car departed Massena on St. Lawrence Division train 8. It joined NYC 169, the “Buffalo Special” at Syracuse which took it to Buffalo. On Sunday, however, it ran in NYC 41, the “Knickerbocker,” from Syracuse to Buffalo. From Buffalo, it ran as NYC 279, the “Buffalo-Pittsburgh Express” which also carried Pullmans from Boston and Toronto to the Steel City. This train was P&LE 38 from Youngstown.
Here’s the southbound schedule
Lv Massena 230 pm (300 pm on Sundays)
Lv Watertown 535 pm
Lv Syracuse 922 pm ( 817 pm on Sundays)
Lv Buffalo 144 am
Lv Ashtabula 418 am
Lv Youngstown 600 am
Arr Pittsburgh 750 am
Looking forward to seeing more posts throughout the day.
work safe
P.S. Red Sox performance did not surprise me at all - just the overall ugliness of it and the fact that they wasted a pair of quality starts. I'll bet the flight west yesterday was like riding in a hearse.
Good morning Ruthy nice to see you again this am. I'll just grab a number three and my usual thermous of coffee. Well I must first off apologize for my enforced absence yesterday. Bell Canada was doing their yearly turn off sympatico for upgrading routine. I haven't noticed any diffeence other than more showy colours on the homepage and $5 more a month for their service
Anyway what a wonderfull turnout photowise on Sunday gentlemen 5x for the great turnout and even better photographs.
Tom- I loved this weeks movie choices, the Quick and The Dead's a favourite of mine.Nice continiung shots of that beautifullfly restored PRR "E". One question though , were the Appache Helicopters really necessary to enforce the rules at the army / navy game I'm glad to see you've started us off with a bang on NYC day to. Great old photo's and some "wunnerfull" info on the 20th Centruy LTD.
Doug -Great shots of those Mckeen cars & yesterday's follow up on their service of sorts outside of Edmonton. For such a small railway , we seem to have talked about the Alberta and Great Waterways quite a bit around here over the last year and a half. Everytime I see a picture of a Mckeen car I always wonder to myself as to where the torpedo tubes are mounted I figured if anyone knew what the Aurura was you would good show sir
Pete -I'm glad you survived the birthday bash. You haven't sworn off of Bantham's because of it though have you I hope not, because I have another reefer full comming in to resupply us after the "Wolves" devistated our supply BTWwonderfull shots from Irland from your "mate" I esspeacially liked that viaduct, looks like they laid track right over an old Roman bridge.
BK & Lars -I'm glad that sir Tom was able to give a pointer or two for your photo woes. For myself I just cross my eyes and toes before I type in the urls ( it's worked so far, the downside is Boris now has started calling me brother ) BK nice literail shots, how did you get Cindy to pose in that Aussie shot though
CM3-I'm glad that you made it in this AM sir, great info on that NYC sleeper train. Hatrd to imagine sleeper service let alone one that covers so much territory in so many different trains. Oh well this is why we all love the Classic stuff,when trains were trains etc etc.
Well I;'m off to find my NYC bit for today. Boris and Ruthy, here's a twenty fo the round box for when the rest of the gang roll in. What ? Yes Boris you can ring your bell, sheesh small things amuse oh well.
Rob
THEME OF THE DAY THEME OF THE DAY
CLASSIC DIESELS # 28 OPOSED PISTON'S ON TH NYC
One of my modelling friends always said that the NYC and the PRR were the easiest railways to midel in the diesel era, as both these grand old systems, dabbled with locomotives from all builders during the rush to deiselize after the second world war. Neither road wanted all their eggs in one basket so in the first years of deiselization , when the appetites for new power was at it's dizzying frenzied pitch the NYC purcahsed a great many of the oposed piston wonders from Fairbanks Morse,here's a brief rundown on the units they purchased.
New York Centrals, susidiary Piitsburg & Lake Erie got the systems first FM power in the form of two H10-44 1000hp switchers in dec of 1946,the parent company followed up in less than a year with a pair of Erie-built cab units geared for fright srevice they then bought four more cabs abd a pair of B units bringing the Erie built fleet to 8 units.Six of the passenger cabs were ordered for pasenger service and were equipped with the higher gearing and steam heating units. Thes all were belivered in the lightening stripe scheme but wree as delivered with silver painted trucks ala the Sante Fe.
The NYC was happy with it's first samples of FM power and continued buying from them. In 1949 they purcahsed thier first C-liner covered wagons,opting for 12 of the 2000hp CFA20-4 cab units and three boosters. ( NYC was the only road to order the 2000hp varient of the C liner )Thsi was followed up in 1952 with an oredr for 8 of the 1600hp CF16-4's and for 1600hp B's..Also in late 1952 NYC becam the only US road ( CNR the only other )to but the five axle 2400hp C-Liner passenger engines CF24-5's. In the end the NYC repowered all the Erie Builts and C-liners with 1500HP EMD 567C's to make maintenance less a nuisence.
The NYC continued to buy some road switchers from FM for itself and it's affiliates through iout the mid 50's including 1600hp H16-44's and larger 2000hp H20-44's the last units were purcahsed in 1957, FM was out of the locomotive building business by 1960. they did however continue to build maritime diesel engines.
THE NEW YORK CENTRAL SYSTEM'S ALL TIME FM ROSTER
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
LaSalle St. Station 7/18/51
http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvn-jpgs/RVN13300.jpg
20th Century Limited 8/10/39
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00013610+OP-13610
4-6-4 Buffalo 8/7/39
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00013405+OP-13405
EMC SW1 Buffalo 8/7/39
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00013509+OP-13509
E7 Mitchell, IL 6/30/51
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00013628+OP-13628
F7 Dickinson, WV 7/9/53
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00013514+OP-13514
Lima diesels Boston 1950s
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=200406050732544647.jpg&byrail%3A8%3ANew_York_Central
RDC Palmer 1950s
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2004011920164731366.jpg&byrail%3A12%3ANew_York_Central
Ah, Ruth is behind the bar and we have a new look this week - red! A #3 for me with a piping hot cuppa Joe with a "splash" to make it interesting - thank you! A round for the guys at the bar on me, Boris - ring the bell!
So it is Tuesday and "theme for the day" is upon us - New York Central. I see the good Captain has started us off in the proper direction with his fine piece on the 20th Century Ltd - well done! I shall follow up with a couple from Wikipedia myself and hopefully the photos willl load. <fingers crossed>
Before getting to that, I should make mention of our early morning customers - Doug and CM3 - good to see the two of you. Then Rob arrived with his inclusive posting and all indeed is well here at the tavern by the tracks! Seems just like old times once again.
Just rechecked the thread and see that Rob and Mike have provided some substantive information for our "theme" - did not see you two at first glance. Apparently all has not been "cured" with this forum revision. Anyway, good show - the Urls from Mike are always on point and Rob can be counted upon for something insightful!
Without further delay, here is my contribution for this Tuesday Theme for the Day (or should it be, Theme of the Day - whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!) <grin>
(from: www.wikipedia.com with permission)
Train No. 50, the Empire State Express, passes near Syracuse, New York in August of 1933.
"Drumhead" logos such as these often adorned the ends of observation cars on the Empire State Express.
The Empire State Express was one of the named passenger trains and onetime flagship of the New York Central and Hudson River Railroad (a predecessor of the modern New York Central Railroad). It became the world's first high-speed passenger train on September 14, 1891 when it covered the 436 miles (702 kilometers) between New York City and Buffalo in just 7 hours and 6 minutes (including stops). The train averaged 61.4 miles-per-hour (98.8 km/h), a new world speed record in rail travel, with an officially-recorded top speed of 82 mph (132 km/h), though observers claimed to have clocked the train at 112 mph, or 180 km/h.
In short order, the train would gain worldwide celebrity, and its route would stretch to almost 1,000 miles (1,600 km), with Chicago, Illinois as its western terminus. In addition to its other notable accomplishments, the Empire State was the first passenger train to maintain a regular schedule speed of over 52 mph (84 km/h), and the first to make runs of 142.88 miles (230 km) between stops (between New York City and Albany, the longest scheduled nonstop run ever attempted).
When Amtrak took over operation of the nation's passenger service on May 1, 1971 it thereby ended the 90-year run of the Empire State Express on the New York Central, though Amtrak would continue to use the name for many years to come. Today, a portion of the route is covered by Amtrak's Empire Service.
New York Central and Hudson River Railroad No. 999, the "Queen of Speed," slows to 60 mph as it leads the Empire State Express through Palatine, New York in 1905.
The key to the Empire State's initial fame was a specially-outfitted, 37-foot-long American-type 4-4-0 steam locomotive that was built especially to haul the train. The handmade unit was mounted on 86" diameter driving wheels, and was the first of its kind to have brakes mounted to the front truck. The bands, pipes, and trim were highly polished; the boiler, smokestack, domes, cab, and tender were given a black satin finish, and "Empire State Express" was applied to the sides of the tender in 2'-6" high gold leaf lettering.
No. 999 entered service in May of 1893, making the trip from Syracuse, New York to the Chicago World's Fair. The Express was recorded traveling at 121.5 mph (195.5 km/h) during an exhibition run between Batavia
What a sight when entering into the tavern by the tracks - with the daylight streaming in from behind, that fire red hair of Ruth's looks almost ablaze! Good seeing the responses to the resurrected "theme for the day!" from so many!
I'll have TWO frosty mugs of Scheafer and a foot long hero - ham 'n Swiss with mustAHd and buttAH. Oh yeah, two pickles from the barrel and a saucer of brine for Tex! Add a round for the boyz while you're at it . . .
Got through all of today's submissions and must say that everyone has been quite original with the input. Don't recall seeing any repeat performances, even the URLs from Mike were new to the scene. Great stuff from Tom, BK, Rob and CM3!
Well, Captain Tom, I'd say tonight kicks off a rather serious series of ballgames for your Cardinals. With the Mets pretty much coasting - which they shouldn't - these three games could spell out the season for your guys. I remember the times when the Mets 'n Cards were first rate games and very much looked forward to. Now that we have so many teams in the league, plus the interleague stuff - we don't see St. Louis quite as much as in the glorious past. Two teams with great players - lots of all stars - should be good games. Pitching is the key for both, wouldn't you agree We're pretty much battered in that department lately, and looks like you have been reduced to Carpenter as the sole dependable of the staff.
Ok, time for my submission - here's we go:
NYC book
NYC print - Stable mates
NYC print - Along the Hudson
A pint of the Bathams, that Rob has got delivered and a round for all the great NYC posts please RUTH.
May I say how much I have enjoyed the New York Central posts today Many thanks TOM, CM3, ROB, MIKE, BK and LARS. I dont think I can add to the great posts but I did find this web site to NYC museum It looks a museum well worth a visit.
http://www.nycrrmuseum.org/index.html
They have the diesel which lead the last eastbound 20th Century Limited, an E8 # 4085 and what looks a great model railway.
Good evening gentlefolks here at the Tavern By the Tracks. Leon a round of Keith's or the poison of choice for the rest of the assembled. What can I say but a great big yeah Team ! A 5x salute for all who made a rip roaring success the first tuesday theme day , we picked a good one I think and no one was dissapointed.
BK -Wow a wnderfull piece of research there my friend , great info on two great pasenger trains , a theme in a theme today as Tomcovered one name train and you did justice to two more.Al would have been in his glory , hopefully he will be back soon.
Mike -Ah yes our steadfast urlmeister did indeed come through with a great crossection of new NYC urls for us, thank you indeed sir.
Lars -Loved the photo spread of book covers , I'm not supprised that some many wonderfull books were written about the NYC. I know too that the selection you gave us is but a mere drop in the bucket to what has been written about the NYC.
Pete -I'm glad that you are enjoying the fresh batch of Bantham's the NYC museum that you posted the url for looks like an interesting place.I will have to delve more deeply into it. thanks for sharing
Well folks, our first theme tuesday does seem to have gone off without a hitch, thanks again to everyones fine efforts today . 5x We will; have to think long and hard for next weeks. I'm thinking about something perhaps out Doug's way, we shall mull it over for a day or so. Leon another round if you would be so kind.
ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE !
A final NYC piecefor this theme tuesday. An encore from me but since it also deals with our theme in a theme and dovetales with BK's fine effort , I figure that it bares repeating.As first posted on page 249, the AD for the "New Empire State Express "
trolleyboy wrote:Good day again folks,here's a bit of "lite" reading. Seeing as how tom and Lars have both picked up an NYC theme today here's an ad to go along with their efforts today. CLASSIC AD'S # 4 THE EMPIRE STATE EXPRESS The New Empire State Express Again New York central makes transportation history with a new streamlined Empire State Express Her is really a new way to travel- new in luxury - new in the relaxation and pleasure it offers you. Built of stainles steel with interiors as comfortable as they are beautiful. smart solarium observation ; tavern lounge and dining cars. all seats reserved in Parlour Cars and Reclining Seat Coaches. Same low fares ! Westbound LV New York..... 9:00 am Ar Buffalo ......... 4:50pm Ar St thomas......7:45pm Ar Detroit.............9:55pm Eastbound LV Detroit............8:30am Ar St Thomas...10:32am Ar Buffalo.............1:30pm Ar New York.........9:30pm This train travelled accross the TH&B in southern Ontario as a shortcut between Ny and Detroit. This was listed in the New york Central's/ michigan centrals time table dated November 30 1941. The service started in service westbound on Dec 7 1941 and eastbound dec 8 1941. Note the start dates for the train. I imagine that it did not get much fanfare.
G"day Gents!
A blue sky morning once again here in mid-continent USA - temps are hovering at 68 (F) but expected to get into the low 90s today through Friday. Good day to get some lawn work done - and there's always lots of that to attend to! <groan>
Nice to see Ruth in all of her red-splendor working behind the bar this fine day! For those who may not have caught it - she will be our bartender for the remainder of the week, including Saturday, with Leon the Night Man coming in at 5 PM.
Double <groan> from those of us in this area who are Cardinals fans. They found a way to blow a 7-1 lead over the Mets last night and lost it in the 9th to a walk-off home run. And to think, we nearly beat the vaunted Mets with only one cylinder perking. Have to hand it to the New Yorkers though, they have a thoroughly balanced team and it shows. Quite a potent line up - a far, far cry from the Casey Stengel years that I recall. Used to live 'n die with those guys . . but here we are in 2006, and my Cardinals are trying their level best to relinquish 1st place in the Central Division. Seems to be working. <groan>
Very nice spate of NYC info from yesterday with just about everyone pitching in. Good job, Gents! Tuesdays were our "Railroads from Yesteryear" days - with the "theme" being whatever road was featured - in case anyone has forgotten the origin. What was particularly rewarding with yesterday's output is the originality of it all. Only one Encore - and that was appropriately at the very end of the day. I think there are one or two in the "tank" from my "Railroads from Yesteryear" series that haven't been Posted. There's no rush . . .
Pete - I think there's an unanswered question floating around in cyber space that you asked awhile ago. Regarding the advanced search option - yes - it does exist. It works like this: BEFORE you check into our Thread - when you are still on the General Discussion page of the Forum - you will see two "buttons" immediately beneath the "General Discussion" title on the page. One says "Post" and the other "Search." Click on "Search" - then click AGAIN on "Search" that shows up to the right of the "block." That will get you to the advanced feature.
We will miss having you aboard for a few days, BK, but are heartened knowing that you will be returning! By the by, what type of an aircraft do you have I would think that in your part of the continent, flying IS the way to get around, although my guess is air strips may be far 'n few between. Anyway, you (and Lydia!) made a nice choice for your "theme" submission and it surely blended well with the rest of the "stuff."
Lars, you hit it on the head regarding the importance of the series between my Cards and your Mets - those games are critical to us. No doubt you and your sons enjoyed the game last night and I envy you in having the opportunity to take it in. Your boys take good care of their "old man!" Oh, for anyone not following this - Lars sent me an Email telling me that he was going to the game. A surprise 'gift' from his sons.
Wanted to make mention of "my other Thread" before I totally forget. I haven't checked in since mid-July but noticed the activity there, especially from Lars and BK. Not certain what I'll do with it - perhaps just let it "run" - although we haven't had very much success in attracting and keeping contributors over there, much less getting anyone to frequent the tavern by the tracks. Anyway, nice of you guys to keep the "spirit" alive! Oh yes, glad the "help" with the Pix-Posting worked out!
CM3, that 5-game series with the Yanks has to go down in baseball history with one of the most disasterous for the BoSox. HOWEVER, it ain't over 'til it's over - and anything can (and usually does!) happen. Take heart, Mate - just look at what's going on with the Cardinals! <groan, groan, groan> Don't know if you picked up on it a day or three ago, but Lars had indicated that he had TURNED DOWN an offer to go up to Fenway to watch one of the games! That would've been a great thing to do - and having made that journey once or thrice to take in sporting events in Beantown from New York City, the memories are all good!
Appreciate the continued participation from all the guys - Rob - Mike 'n Doug included.
Catch y'all either later on or tomorrow fer sure, fer sure!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; Coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Lovely late summer day here today. The "huns" went back to school today, so it got very quiet at home. Then did dr. stuff this a.m. - I'm still qualified for duty so that's good. Gas is $2.89 (was $3.15 last week).
A few comments.
Tom: Thanks for the kind words re the Sox. The mess continued last night in L.A. The most telling line in the boxscore was that they were 1 for 11 with runners in scoring position. Silent bats undo good pitching every time. You know I'm a Cardinals fan as well. Watched the NY-St.L game on TV last night. Playing off my previous line, bad starting pitching and a flammable bullpen wastes quality hitting every time as well. The Cards lineup last night was not exactly their usual starters for certain.
Lars and BK: Interesting NYC material yesterday. Most of the books pictured reside in the NYC wing at home. I try and sort the collection out by region. So we have NYC, PLE, PRR, Erie, and NKP grouped together. Makes it a little easier to find material when I need it.
BTW, I don't usually shill for books, but you folks might be interested in Morning Sun's book, Trackside Buffalo.
Mike had some neat url postings which I thoroughly enjoyed.
The picture at LaSalle St. was a good one as it shows a mix of hw and lw equipment along with what appears to be an L-class Mohawk with elephant ears. People talk a lot about the Hudsons and Niagaras, but the Mohawks were right up there with them, IMHO.
The picture of 5263 in Buffalo deserves a closer look; not only for the architeture at Buffalo Central Terminal, but also for the serif lettering on the tender.
The F unit shot at Dickinson was a nice one. Not too far from home, as well. The Central In West Virginia was a tangled web of lines going back to the days of the T&OC and the K&M (Toledo and Ohio Central, Kanawha and Michigan). Let's not forget the NF&G (Nicholas, Fayette and Greenbrier) which was a joint NYC/C&O operation. The Fs could have been used either on the NF&G or on the T&OC. A friend told me also of seeing them on the VGN a few times through Mullens when there was what the locals call a "service disruption."
Dickinson is hard by the north side Kanawha River and is an active yard today. It belongs to the NS. BTW, the old VGN crosses the main line of the C&O and the river on a high bridge just a little east of where the picture was taken.
The 6200s were pigs. I remember them on the B&A as shown in the photo taken at South Station. If you entered the headhouse at South Station and faced toward the tracks, the B&A operations were on the right side, and the New Haven was on the left. There was an outrageous amopunt of commuter traffic in and out of South Station; still quite a bit now and growing as previously abandoned lined (hold me back, Boris!) are restored to service. IIRC, and I don't have my materials here, the Limas were banished to the Harlem Divisiion, but don't hold me to that.
Last, the RDC, aka Beeliner, was a good picture as well. Back in the long ago, my paternal grandfather worked in Palmer, so again that's a familiar area. The train in the picture could have been an Albany-Boston run or a Springfield-Boston run. Also check out the SP dd boxcar in the background.
Last to Rob: Thanks so nuch for the FM material. That brought back a few memories as well, although the big player for FM power in the Boston area was the New Haven.
If I left anybody out, my apologies.
Now I will get busy getting my paper bag(s) ready for the next round of Sox/Cardinals follies.
Work safe
G'day (again) Gents!
A 2nd visit from me today - no, I'm not checking up on you Ruth - just checkin' you out! Anyway, thought I'd drop off a little something for our Wednesday bill o' fare for anyone interested in Toy 'n Model Trains . . . .
Continuing with the New York Central, check these out!
You may want to check these out at: http://www.uncledavesbrass.com/CIL-1938.HTML for a better view.
These models are in HO scale and are from Challenger - undoubtedly fine quality, but my guess is they are very expensive. Oh yeah, interiors are detailed as well. Would surely make a fine consist behind some ALCO PAs or EMD E8s in the lightning bolt livery. Ummmmmmm.
Enjoyed the Post from CM3 this day, very nice rundown on the URLs provided by our resident URLMeisterMonsterMike. Looks like he flicked your switch - big time - with those, eh One of the benefits of hanging 'round the tavern by the tracks - always a little something for everyone's appetite!
Just returned from a few errands and topped off the tank at $2.75 (rounded) - up from $2.65 yesterday! What's new <groan>
Boris, ring the ding for a round on Da Boss!
See y'all in the 'morrow . . . .
G’day Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
A sight for sore eyes you are, Ruth our magnificent redhead! Now, if only I wasn’t so blasted old – I’d chase you ‘round the place a time or two! How ‘bout a round for the house and a frosty mug of Keiths for me if you please. Ring the bell, Boris!
Well Captain Tom, it wasn’t a good night for the boyz from St. Loo, however, the boyz from over by Laguardia did themselves proud with that finish. You ARE correct in your assessment though – Cards nearly did pull it off with only one star player coming through – “El Hombre” himself with 7 RBIs is the heart ‘n soul of your team. He’s quite the player. For me it was a great night out with my sons and has taken me nearly all of this day to recoup from it! <grin> The “old man” can’t handle it anymore – really, a night like that takes me to the land of Oz in no time flat once the sun comes up next mornin’ – ain’t it awful getting old
So, what do we have on today’s plate Nice post from CM3 and a couple from our Proprietor to pretty much sum it all up. Rob provided us with two nite-caps and that’s been it. Well, I figured we’d have periods like this and it’s nothing to be concerned about. Just as long as “our guys” recognize that when online, stop by the bar and “say something” – that really is all any of us can do to keep our thread “up ‘n running”!
Really enjoyed that dissertation from CM3 Shane on the URLs from our sole provider – Mike. Found his comments most interesting and agree with Captain Tom, there always does seem to be a little something or other for all of us at this fine establishment. I’ll take Ruth! <grin>
Good looking consist of smoothsides in the NYC livery of the 20th Century Ltd from Captain Tom! So, the ‘spirit’ of Model ‘n Toy Trains Day! lives on, huh Nice going!
For anyone interested, we were seated on the 1st base side of the field last night – field boxes with a great view of the plays. Didn’t know (or care) that former Prez Clinton was in attendance – like who gives a Rat’s Patoot Heard he is a Cards fan anyway! My sons always seem to come up with the greatest seats – but then they do their “shopping” way before opening day – so I never really know when these ‘suprises’ are going to be sprung on me. It was a nice treat and my headache along with some foggy memories tell me I must have had a good time! Glad I didn’t drive! <grin> We have a built in “designated driver” in the family and he gets exploited regularly with our bunch!
Enjoy the remainder of this mid-week day one ‘n all and hope to see things pick up a bit tomorrow.
Good evening gentlemen,Leon I think a nice frosty mug of Keith's would do well right about now.It has been a tad spare today, but hey we're still here and still on the tracks so that's all that's important.
CM3- Nice rundown indeed on the urls Mike dropped on us yesterday. I've said it before I don't know where we would be without Mike our crack researcheon the case.I'm glad that you liked the FM's. I've always had a soft spot for them , I've never personally seen one run but I guess I always's liked the underdog ( not the cartoon character )Keeping with our model theme today It's nice to see that between Atlas and Proto/Walther's an absolute pile of FM models have come out recently,I recently aquired one of Atlas's new run of Trainmasters, couldn't rsist the CNR green and yellow on a model of CN's one and only 6 axle Trainmaster
TOM-Nice shots of those Challenger models, they do look tempting don't they. A Prote A-B-A of FA's or a set of Proto Erie Builts would look wunnerfull at the head end of that consist.I'm sure you noticed or maybe not, but Walther's is bringing out their second "historic" great train set out later on this year. This being the Great Northern Empire Builder, last year they did the ATSF Super Chief. I wonder if they will get around to doing an acurate 20thg Century Limited or Even better a CPR set of The Canadian , something else for us to spend our money on eh ?
LARS-i'm glad you made it back in bleury eyed or not,nice to have a quieter day here once in a while, we can get to know the girls better
Well folks I'm gonna wonder around a spell, I'll likely check back in later this evening if not then tomorrow fer sure fer sure.
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house.
Thought Jose Reyes was limber until Ozzie Smith visited the Mets' broadcast booth, they showed old videotape of base-hit prevention and backflips.
CM3, expert commentary made my day, thanks a lot! Buffalo has a skyscraper at the station, as does Cleveland, and LaSalle St. Ceres, the Goddess of Wheat, has a great view from up there.
Gotta do one more by Otto Perry, the Century on 9/23/30
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00013583+OP-13583
Actually the best NYC picture I've seen lately is Doug's 2 Pacemakers, although Pete's link contained a link to something pretty darn good
http://www.nycshs.org/nycshs2.jpg
H-O scale (Clair Downs photos)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-o/onr-m2105bcd.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-o/onr-m2105ccd.jpg
North Bay, Ontario July '99 (James Lalande photo)
http://onr.stabler.org/images/locomotive/onr2105a.jpg
Nipissing Sunset
http://www.city.north-bay.on.ca/gallery/graphics/Sunset1CL.jpg
p.s. Thanks Rob
Eric, have a good trip, don't forget your camera. Summer light at the latitude of Stockholm plus the longitudinal time change should do wonders for the night-owl of Arizona.
Doug, a few days ago you sought clarification of a question. I merely meant how many McKeen cars had you stashed in your photobucket. I counted 11, and then put the url to the San Diego pic to make it an even dozen. Hurry back, will ya, we need some Darnbad jokes. Not.
Dave, could it be you're missing Barndad's Roundhouse, and your role there as the Indispensable Man. You're indispensible here, too. I'm looking forward to reading a new tutorial on the Southern Pacific, hopefully soon.
Nick, of course you're not reading this, but just for the record, there's links to pics of an ONR loco in H-O guage in my previous post. Colorful sunset up there, reminiscent of the paint scheme.
Tom, can we talk about the New York Central some more? Railroadwise, I like the distant past.
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