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[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A cup of your fine coffee and a bacon sandwich please.

TOM Thanks for the Nostalgia encores [tup].The Grampian Corridor must be from soon after the turn of the century. they were magnificent cars for the time 12 wheelers, I believe. I have seen a painting of the train and they looked superb being hauled by a Royal Blue Caledonian 4-6-0 locomotive in Scottish scenery [^]. PETE.

[LoveDomes]

Good Afternoon Tom,

I see the Nostalgia pieces are flowing on this rather quiet Saturday. It's a good idea to refre***he memories, and what the heck, if hardly anyone stops by, why waste a perfectly good, and labor intensive post?

So, I'll take a belt of whatever is within reach, on the rocks if you will. Been one of those days in my house.

Since I am a relative newcomer around here, I really haven't got anything to qualify as Nostalgia - however, I do have some pix for your Sunday Photo Posting!

Good to see you stopped by, Pete - at least two of us made the time to swing by the neighborhood pub! A long time ago, one of my ships used to make some port calls over your way. Of course our time was rather resticted ashore, however, there was always time to check out the sailor bars! Never had an opportunity to travel anywhere by rail and one day we intend to do that very thing.

Stay awake everyone![swg]

Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

Afternoon Gents!

We've got a rainy day here in mid-continent USA and some thunder storms are approaching. Temps are still above 50 (F) in this extremely unseasonably warm January. The plus is we were able to get Juneau out for his one mile trek this AM and hope to do the same before we head out this evening. He really "tells us" should the schedule not be kept![swg] Huskies are that way .... smart and bossy, fer sure, fer sure.<grin>

Hey Lars meant to thank you for adding your name to the Birthday Watch List! - I'll publi***he revised version on Monday.[tup] Your b'day is the same as that of my bride - of course, she's younger![swg]

Pete NIce to see you this day. Coffee[?] Now that doesn't sound right. What's up[?]
By the by, I finally finshed with all of those fine Pix you sent.[wow] Thanx very much for the contributions - I make that plural because there are enough Pix for the next three Sundays![wow] There's an Email for you.[tup]

Lars Don't sweat the small stuff regarding ENCORE! Saturday The bar is open, we engage on another and whatever feels "right" - do it or say it. The idea behind ENCORE! Saturday is to try and get those guys who Post the looooong submissions to reconsider for another day. It's just that simple. As we both have said, "Why waste the effort[?]" You can lead the horse to water ...... [swg]

Got an Email from BudKarr BK and it appears that the pressure's been upped a bit to keep him on board. "They" don't want to let him go. Also, he's not going to make it back for at least another week - that was as of yesterday's "report." He was in Norway when he sent it. Busy guy - no idle time for him, that's fer sure.

Sure do miss the presence of trolleyboy Rob 'round here. Between having his great inputs missing along with the once per day efforts of Ted, well it's a bit sad 'round here. I have a perfectly functional computer sitting in our basement - it's capable of internet comms, just not as advanced as the models of today. If I were closer to Ontario, I'd drive it up and let Rob have the thing! Anything to get him back.[swg]

Advice: If any customer wishes to communciate with another - why not use the Forum feature that permits this by Email[?] Just click the cyber name of whoever it is you wi***o communciate with and follow the "yellow brick road!"[swg]

Okay, Gents - here is the moment we've been awaiting: the return of Cindy who will take over the bar for me until Leon the Night Man begins the night shift. Be kind, Gents![}:)][;)][:-,][sigh]

Ring the bell, Boris - drinks on the house![tup]

I hope to get one more Nostalgia piece out before we go.

See at Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

. . . . . ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday . . . . .

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #8

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this advertisement out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)
First Posted on page 137

Great Northern(GN)

Great Way To CALIFORNIA via the Pacific Northwest

Chicago-Minneapolis-St. Paul-Spokane-Seattle & Portland-San Francisco-Los Angeles

TOWERING PEAKS in Glacier National Park in the Montana Rockies.

LOFTY MT. RAINIER looks over Seattle and Tacoma.

GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE is only one of the fascinating sights awaiting travelers in San Francisco.

Rail Fare to San Francisco is no more on Great Northern’s incomparable Great Dome EMPIRE BUILDER

To delight travel-experienced patrons who are planning a fall trip to California, suggest that they route themselves via the Pacific Northwest.

Great Northern’s EMPIRE BUILDER, now with Great Domes for both coach and Pullman passengers, takes the northern route across the nation - - more than two thousand miles of truly superb scenery.

Your patrons will thank you for sending them on a route where they can see the Mississippi River Palisades, Glacier National Park, the Rocky Mountains of Montana and Idaho. the Cascades of Washington and Oregon.

Connections with fine trains to and from California in Seattle or Portland. Rail fare from Chicago to San Francisco is no more via Great Northern.

For information:
P. G. Holmes
Passenger Traffic Manager
Great Northern Railway
St. Paul 1, Minnesota


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

. . . . . ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday . . . . .

[passengerfan]

Good Afternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a CR and a round for the house.
Tom thought this might satisfy yours and Lars dome lust for a saturday afternoon

.
Great
Northern
(GN)

The Great Northern was the last of the northern transcontinental railways to add domes to their premier train between Chicago and Seattle-Portland. The first of the northwest roads to add domes to their premier train was the Milwaukee Road who added Super Domes to the OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA beginning in December 1952. The next of the northwest trains to add domes was the NP NORTH COAST LIMITED with a pair of dome coaches added to each consist in August 1954 and a pair of dome sleeping cars added in November 1954 between Chicago and Pasco. The UP would have three Domes operating in each CITY OF PORTLAND train set by May 1955. One each of Astra-Dome Coach, Astra-Dome Dining Car and Astra-Dome Lounge Observation in each train set between Chicago and Portland. Even the CP CANADIAN was operating domes a month before the GN received the first of their domes in May 1955.
The GN EMPIRE BUILDER would be the first and only train in the US prior to Auto-Train to operate both short domes and a full-length dome in the same consist. When the GN went with domes they spared no expense beginning in May 1955 when three short dome leg rest coaches were added to each of the EMPIRE BUILDERS five consists. Two of the Great Dome coaches were through Chicago – Seattle cars while the third was a Chicago – Portland car operating between Spokane and Portland over the SP&S who would own one of the Great Dome coaches built for the EMPIRE BUILDER by Budd. The CB&Q who operated the EMPIRE BUILDER between Chicago and St. Paul owned three of these Budd built Great domes.
These Coach Domes built for the EMPIRE BUILDER were flat sided cars from Budd as were those built the year before for the NP NORTH COAST LIMITED. The cars were painted in the Omaha Orange, Pullman Green paint scheme with dulux gold separation stripes and lettering. They were an immediate hit with the traveling public. These were the standard 46 leg-rest seat cars with 24 non-revenue seats in the domes built by Budd for overnight train service.
In October 1955 the EMPIRE BUILDER received its full-length dome lounge cars for the exclusive use of the trains Pullman passengers. The VIEW series cars seated 75 on the dome level (25 seat pairs 7 single seats and 18 lounge seats). Beneath the dome was a 32-seat lounge with a bar open to Pullman passengers only. The VIEW series car was train-lined directly behind the 36-seat Dining car ahead of the trailing sleeping cars. The Great Dome Lounge cars operated between Chicago and Seattle. The GN purchased six VIEW series cars one was owned by the CB&Q for EMPIRE BUILDER service. Each eastbound EMPIRE BUILDER had a replenished 36-seat dining car; G-N Ranch car and VIEW series Great Dome replace the arriving cars from Seattle in St. Paul before continuing the trip to Chicago. The EMPIRE BUILDER Great Dome Lounge, G-N Ranch Car and Diner operated a round trip from St. Paul – Chicago – Seattle – St. Paul before being changed out. Additional bar supplies were available enroute but commissary stores for the diner and Ranch car were rarely added anywhere but Seattle.
In the late 1960’s when traffic slowed on the EMPIRE BUILDER the GN assigned one Great Dome coach to each WESTERN STAR consist between St. Paul and Seattle. Since the cars of the WESTERN STAR operated overnight between Chicago and St. Paul combined with the CB&Q BLACKHAWK and NP MAINSTREETER it was not necessary to operate the domes over this part of the trip. The GN WESTERN STAR, NP MAINSTREETER, and CB&Q BLACKHAWK operated combined eastbound and westbound overnight between St. Paul and Chicago.

24-SEAT GREAT DOME 46-SEAT LEG-REST COACHES Budd Company May 1955 (Built for and assigned to EMPIRE BUILDER)

GN

1320-1331

SP&S

1332

CB&Q

1333-1335

VIEW SERIES 75 SEAT FULL DOME LOUNGE CARS WITH BAR AND 32 SEAT LOUNGE BENEATH DOME Budd October 1955 (Built for and assigned to EMPIRE BUILDER)

GN

1390 GLACIER VIEW

1391 OCEAN VIEW

1392 MOUNTAIN VIEW

1393 LAKE VIEW

1394 PRAIRIE VIEW

CB&Q

1395 RIVER VIEW

All GN domes were transferred to BN ownership in the 1970 merger.

TTFN AL

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom and the crew.. Round of JWB if you could be so kind.

Ok, where to start?

Nick,, you are correct that Bachman does produce a On30 2-6-0. We in s scale will reguage these and redetail them to suit our needs (one can even Purchase a conversion kit) If the details are done right they are perfect for S. Although, i've not done so yet, some do cutdown and modify On30 passenger,freight and cabooses to S as well. I've got several of these moguls on the workbench at the moment, my crowning achievement in S to date, is converting one to a 4-4-0 using parts from four scales! I can't wait to do a similar conversion to a shay..

Now for your reading pleasure, some additional SP trivia brought to you courtesy of the "Mentor Village History Project".

How many among us is aware that the BNSF line from Barstow, Ca to the Arizona border at Needles was constructed by the Central Pacific? True indeed, during 1881 the AT&SF was was making good on its promise to reach the Pacific coast, this was unacceptable to the CP who brood no newcomers to its terrority.

Savy company laywers envoked a little used clause written into the charter that stated CP and its agents, with reasonable motive could challenge any new railroad building within a certain boundry.. AT&SF did not take this action laying down, a counter suit was promptly filed, meanwhile they also formed a construction company that could not be traced back to AT&SF and construction resumed, advance teams ventured into the San Bernadino mountains using Cajon Creek for a easy alignement out of the Victor Valley, during this bit of chacannery, CP was faltering at the San Fernando tunnel who's construction equaled that required of the Donner Pass Line in time, money and material.

AT&SF took advantage of this CP distraction to run rails over the pass thus turning the table on rival CP by preventing them from obtaining a route east into the Los angeles basin from the east.

Assured that the CP was now blocked from construction any additional trackage in the desert, SF demanded they,the CP, in their legal opinion, suspend all construction activity west of Barstow and offered a fair price for the completed work or face additional legal action
CP rejected the offer out of hand with such arrogance that CP actions caught the scrunity of Government officals who were investigating the CP on unrelated isuues such as its charter. Under increasing federal pressure, and from local officals as well regarding the illegal use of city bonds to complete the San Fernando Tunnel project, SP relented and transfered ownership at a mutual price to the Santa Fe, thus SF was able to complete its route to the Pacific...


Dave

[Anonymous]

United States Navy 7 1917 Four-Wheel Saddle Tank Switcher (0-4-0-T)
The smallest steam locomotives were “tank” switchers, built without separate tenders. Fuel was carried in a bunker behind the cab, while water was carried in tanks alongside or straddling the boiler. Most used mechanically simple designs, often with Stephenson valve gear and other components considered outmoded for mainline use.
The navy purchased several 0-4-0T saddle tank locomotives for use at the Brooklyn Naval Yard, where their diminutive size was ideal for the dockyard’s sharp curves and tight clearances. Navy 7 was sold to American Creosote Works in Jackson, Tennessee in 1942, and remained in service until the 1950’s. Builder – Vulcan Iron Works, 2644. Tractive effort 9,000 pounds. Weight – 78,000 pounds.


Illinois Central 9792
Builder: Illinois Central
Year Built: 1940
Length: 36ft 7in
Width: 10ft 6in
Height: 15ft 2in
Weight: ??? lbs
Brakes: AB
Trucks: Scullin
Description: Steel Cupola Side Door Caboose

[siberianmo]

SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

We are CLOSED on Sunday. However, it is Sunday Photo Posting Day!

We open at 6 AM, all time zones on Monday. (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Daily Wisdom

We made too many wrong mistakes.)


Info for the Day:

A new series begins on Monday – watch for it!


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 07:09:54 (231) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(2) passengerfan Al Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 08:22:10 (231) Chat & Northlander FP7

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 08:37:20 (231) ENCORE! Saturday – Fallen Flag: L&N

(4) passengerfan Al Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 09:24:40 (231) Streamlined Headend cars

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 11:59:45 (231) ENCORE! Saturday – Nostalgia GB #3

(6) pwolfe Pete Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 12:54:33 (231) Chat, etc.

(7) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 14:40:12 (231) Chat, etc.

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 15:11:34 (231) Acknowledgments, etc.]

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 15:43:03 (231) ENCORE! Saturday - Nostalgia – GN (1956)

(10) passengerfan Al Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 19:09:18 (231) GN Domes

(11) West Coast S Dave Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 19:40:11 (231) SP trivia



NOW SHOWING:

The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre

. . . Sunday, January 29th: DOUBLE FEATURE Narrow Margin (1990) starring Gene Hackman & Anne Archer – and – North by Northwest (1959) starring Cary Grant, Eva Marie Saint & James Mason.

Coming attractions!
Double Features beginning Monday, January 30th!

. . . January 30th thru February 4th: DOUBLE FEATURE Oh, Mr. Porter! (British - 1937) starring Will Hay, Moore Marriott & Graham Moffitt – and – Shadow of a Doubt (1943) starring Teresa Wright, Joseph Cotten & Macdonald Carey.


That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Good Sunday Morning!

Late start for me here in mid-continent USA .... gettin' too old for these "late night outs!"[swg]

Noted that the two guys who Posted last night apparently were unaware that I wasn't here. Hmmmmmm - mustn't have caught my last Post. Not reading, Gents[?]<frown>

Okay, looks like Doug started off our Sunday Photo Posting Day! I'll be right back with some others![tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Something a bit different from me, for my friends, Pete ‘n Nick from across the pond.. Thanx for all you do in support of this bar ‘n grill!


(1) pwolfe Pete’s hometown is where the “dot” is – Rugby, England


(2) The railway station at Rugby, England (pix from: the public domain)


(3) The railway station at Rugby, England (pix from: the public domain)


(4) nickinwestwales Nick lives in Wales, UK


(5) nickinwestwales Nick resides in Haverfordwest, Pembrokshire, Wales, UK (lower left corner of map)


(6) The railway station at Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales, GB (pix from: Nick)



Enjoy, Gents – this one is on me![tup][tup][tup]


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[Anonymous]

Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe Railroad 92
Builder: Electro Motive Division GM
Year Built: 1967
Model: FP-45
Horsepower: 3600
Length: 71ft 4in
Width: 10ft 10in
Height: 15ft 8in
Weight: 398000 lbs
Brakes: 26L
Engine: 20-645E
Motors: 6 EMD D67
Trucks: EMD C
Description: Diesel-Electric (Ex 101 / ex 5992 / ex 5942 / nee 102)

The Santa Fe 92 is always open for viewing


There might be a test on this information later ….. maybe


It took me two Saturdays to clean-up these journal boxes


They don’t make signs like this anymore (imagine a sign like this on your layout)


The Milwaukee Electric Railway & Light Company D13
Builder: Differential Car Company
Year Built: 1920
Length: 40ft 6in
Width: 8ft 7in
Height: 11ft 10in
Weight: 79700 lbs
Brakes: AMM
Motors: 4 GE 207
Control: HL-15B2
Compressor: D-3F
Trucks: TMER&L M100AB
Description: Double End / Double Truck / Side Dump Motor

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Some recent pix from Pete while over in Merry Olde! – Part I of II – I suspect Pete will provide some descriptions either today or tomorrow.

#1 (A4)


#2 (8F)


#3 (svr_pub)


#4 (Canterbury)


#5 (rdc)



Thanx Sir Pete![tup] … More to follow a bit later on.


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[Anonymous]

The following are just some of the pictures from the book Train Stations by Alexander D. Mitchell IV, which depicts whistle stops, rail stations, and train depots of North America. I got my copy a few weeks ago at a Barnes and Nobles for just $5.98. Not bad!

The Gulf, Colorado & Santa Fe RR (later AT&SF) built this depot in San Angelo, Texas in 1888 when the line reached the city.


The Northern Pacific RR built this mission-style depot in Bismark, North Dakota in 1901 to replace the Sheridan House Hotel and depot of 1877. Passenger service ended in 1979, but the station survives today with modifications to its roof.


Boron station was originally located between Barstow and Mojave, California, on the Santa Fe line. It was built in 1896 as a passenger station for Kramer, four miles away, and was moved to Boron in 1941 as a freight depot. After closure it became a museum in 1987.


The Erie RR’s 1885 Tuxedo Park depot survived a 1915 train derailment that damaged much of the building, and is still used by commuter trains to and from New York City today. Stucco has replaced the original wooden shingles and siding.


A Baltimore & Ohio train arrives at the railroad’s Ellicot City, Maryland, station about 1900. Built about 1831, the original stone freight station received wooden trim and glass windows around 1885. Beyond the station and to the left of the locomotive stands the Patapsco Hotel, the original passenger facility until the 1850s. The depot survives today as a railroad museum honoring America’s oldest extant depot.


The humble brick building in the foreground, built about 1851, stands at the site of America’s first railroad station, the Baltimore & Ohio RR’s original Baltimore terminus, in the Mount Claire neighborhood of Baltimore, Maryland. Originally a ticket office and office building, it now serves as the main entrance to the B&O Railroad Museum, founded in 1953 in the surrounding buildings and enclosed roundhouse, which was built in 1884.

[passengerfan]

Barndad those station photos just convinced me to purvchase the book thx Al.

[LoveDomes]

Hello Tom,

Hope all is well on this fine day and that the guys from "Our" Place are enjoying their day of rest. Here's my contribution for Sunday Photo Posting Day! ...


The Auto Train #510 (from: www.trainweb.com)


Westours “Chulitna” #1056, former Auto Train #510 (from: www.trainweb.com)


The Auto Train #541, former ATSF #512 (from: www.trainweb.com)


Westours “Tanana”#512, former ATSF #512 & former Auto Train #541 (www.trainweb.com)


The Auto Train #460, former WP #811 (from: www.trainweb.com)


The Amtrak Auto Train in Folkston, GA (from: www.trainweb.com)


Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Here’s a contribution from our friend Nick – Part I of II - who may pop in with some descriptions a bit later on:

#1


#2


#3


#4


#5



Always appreciate your participation Sir Nick![tup] More to follow a bit later on.


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[LoveDomes]

Hello Tom,

Just dropped this through the mail slot for a purpose.

I have noticed that no one seems to be making comment on the fine work that others have put forth to benefit those who do the browsing. In my readings of all the pages on this thread, there used to be a time where the guys would at least make mention on Sundays. Apparently, no more.

I will. Thanks go to barndad Doug, who perhaps only rivaled by trolleyboy Rob, remains a consistent provider of some great pix. Not only the photos, but some narrative to help us along the way. A three[tup] salute to you: [tup][tup][tup]

Thanks to Tom our "steamed Proprietor" (as CM3 refers to him) for the dedication, diligence and unselfish sharing of his time and talents for one and all. Not only does he come up with innovative pix spreads of his own, but he accommodates others who wi***o provide pix on Sundays. A three[tup] salute to you: [tup][tup][tup]

There are many "out there" who haven't the foggiest what it takes to put together a bunch of pictures for posting on the forums. It is a labor intensive effort and I for one appreciate EVERYONE who has taken the time throughout the months of Sundays to make this day a bit more pleasant for the customers of "Our" Place. The least some of us can do is to say, "Thanks!" A three[tup] salute to you: [tup][tup][tup]

Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

Hey Lars

Just happened to catch your note as I was taking the Boyz (Boris 'n Leon) up to the cabin at Can-Am Gorge for their weekly romp in the forest. (Animals beware![:O][:O])

Regarding the sparcity of comments: It hasn't gone unnoticed with me over the past several Sundays. Somewhere along the line we've either lost the guys who had the "manners" to make mention of the other guy's efforts, or we've simply entered into a different "phase" 'round here. Don't really know. You know what[?] Screw 'em all but six, and save those for pallbearers![swg] That's my attitude on it. I "play" to the guys who give a Rat's Patoot!

Gotta run! The Boyz are raising the dickens out in the truck with Tex the Armadillo and Awk

Catch y'all on Monday!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

More recent pix from Pete while over in Merry Olde! – Part II of II – suspect Pete will provide some descriptions either today or tomorrow.

#6 (pen2)


#7 (york2)


#8 (york1)


#9 (york4)


#10 (york3)



Thanx again Sir Pete![tup] … More next week.


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Here’s more from our friend Nick – Part II of II - who may pop in with some descriptions a bit later on:

#6


#7


#8


#9


#10



Thanx again for your participation Sir Nick![tup] More next Sunday.


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Here’s an installment from Theodorebear Ted featuring his ongoing efforts in building an HO layout: (we’ll have to await descriptions from Ted)

(1) A work in progress:


(2) A work in progress:


(3) A work in progress:


(4) A work in progress:


(5) A work in progress: Minnie the Moocher



That concludes the installments from Ted’s HO Pike these past three Sundays. …… Watch for the G gauge next Sunday! Thanx, Ted wherever you are ….


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[passengerfan]

Good Afternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Great photo sunday but have a question for lars on the Dome pictures he posted from trainweb today I believe they have one of the captions wrong. If you loook at the second photo and compare it with the 4th photo you will see what I am talking about. The 4th photo of Tanana is much different then the second photo. I believe the second photo is one of the Colorado Rail car dome built either last year or the year before that are replacing the former AT&SF domes like Tanana. These new domes stand nearlt 18 feet above the rails and are known as Ultra Domes. Take a close look at photo 2 and photo 4 and see what you think. Al

[LoveDomes]

Hi Al

Can't say ... the captions I used are from the information provided by the "credits" shown. Further, they stipulate that copying is permitted, unless otherwise prohibited - but in NO case can any infomation be altered.

Seems to me that these were "rebuilds," perhaps that accounts for the difference given that there were alterations made to accommodate the wishes of the new owners.

Ya got me.

Until the next time!

Lars

[Anonymous]

Lars, thanks for the kind words, and Al, you're welcome for my finding ways for you to spend your money. As for people not recognizing the postings of others, I was under the impression that we really didn't do that until the place re-opened on Monday, so that's what I've been doing. But since Lars started recognizing today, I'll do it too! Speaking of whom .... great pics Mr Lars! I liked the Tanana 512 best.

Great Pete pix Captain Tom. Thanks for providing the maps so we know where things are too ...that was a big plus for me! The passenger trains are so small compaired to what I'm used to seeing. The 8F and Canterbury pix are really interesting. I'm also looking forward to Nick's description of his pix. Thanks for posting them Tom. You also posted more pix of Ted's layout, which is something I'm more and more interested in these days, as I look ahead to building a train room in the house we're building!

Have a great "day of rest" gentelmen [:D]

[pwolfe]

Hi
Tom and all.

I'll just post this through the mail slot.

DOUG LARS NICK and TED thanks for the great photos.[tup].

Many thanks TOM for doing mine and the Rugby map and photos. There as been some changes since the photos were taken.In the top photo the Express passenger trains are now worked by Pendileno multiple units. In the second photo the 4- Car Electric Multiple Units class 321 still work some of the local trains but most are now worked by the new class 350 E.M.U.s and the station itself may be demolised and a new one built if the track re-alignment takes place as planned.

As to my photos
#1 On the Severn Valley Railway (SVR) at Bridgnorth is A4 4-6-2 # 60009 Union of South Africa. This engine has class mates in Green Bay WIS and Elson Canada.

#2 A view from the station at Penmeanmawr North Wales the Building on the right is the hopper for the granite ballast which is quarried off picture to the left and loaded in to cars to the right of the photo for use on the railway.

#3 In the Railwayman's Arms on Bridgnorth station.I think it was Mike whosaid he had been there but not gone inside. The guys are the two Alans the left hand beer glass has Thatchers Cloudy Cider the middle one did have Holden's Bitter and the right hand one Bathams. By the state of the glasses Alan in the center bought the first round and it looks like mine next. The brass plate, 4665, is a cabside number plate off a Great Western 0-6-0 Pannier tank loco.

#4 Is Canterbury West(Kent) signal box one of only two on a bridge over the tracks remaining in England.

#5 A Single-car class153 D.M.U these were originally built as 2-car units but were modified with an additional driving cab.

The next photos are from the National Railway Museum in York
#7 A 4-COR 3rd rail Emu built for the Portsmouth electrification of the mid 1930s known as Nelsons. The box with the numbers to the left of the driving cab was the method that the Southern Railway identified its trains with each route having its own number.

#8 A South Eastern & Chatham Railway 4-4-0. This locos would work the Continental Boat-trains from London to Dover.

#9 A North Eastern Railway 4-4-0. This loco worked the Express passenger trains north of York on the East Coast Main Line. I believe this loco worked a leg of the 1895 "Railway Races"

#10 An Oerliken 3rd rail EMU Motor Car used on the London to Watford line of the LMS and the North London Railway .These units had a long life only being replaced in the Mid 50s.

I hope you enjoyed some locos from across the pond PETE.

[siberianmo]

Gentlemen,

Ever wonder about those fine pix that have been Posted during past Sunday Photo Posting Days! [?] The guys who took the time and made the effort to provide one and all with some enjoyable pix deserve to have their work preserved. So, here’s something you may want to “bookmark” for future use:

INDEX: January 2006 Sunday Photo Posting Days!

Begins on: . . . . . click on the URL

(1) Page 214, 08 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=214&TOPIC_ID=35270

(2) Page 220, 15 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=220&TOPIC_ID=35270

(3) Page 227, 22 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=227&TOPIC_ID=35270

(4) Page 232, 29 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=232&TOPIC_ID=35270


With my compliments![tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening one and all,just popped in to check the state of the galley,take care of some paperwork ( cook over a low heat until the I.R.S lose interest [:-^]) and put up some photo captions.
Normally,I would stick to that,however LARS`S well made point concerning the efforts of others,especially [4:-)][oX)]TOM ( the scourge of the res. *** model boaters [swg] ) in making Sunday Pix such a treat deserves to be acted upon.......And since we have a new feature to look forward to tomorrow -no time like the present !!
Well what a feast..!--There HAS to be something for everybody in that lot,starting with:-
The Main Man-TOM,Many thanks for posting all those shots-and in just the right sequence too-inspired !...( although that VIA dome header pic sets a pretty high opening bid..... ) [tup][^][tup]---By the bye-todays daily wisdom sounded like it was delivered by a man with a Texan accent trying to do his daddy`s job.........[:-^]..WAY [#offtopic]......
DOUG-A fine spread here my man [^]-those caboose shots are a fine piece of work-interior & roof shots are especially rare and those road names conjour up some very powerful images.
Those Santa-Fe FP45`s look like pure brutes-a world away from the `soft` lines of the F-units of yore,but nonetheless impressive for that....
splendid variety of depots also-nice to see the infrastructure behind the trains-something one rarely see`s,other than as background detail
-Love that dump car-just my kind of `oddball` vehicle--nice choices [tup][^][tup]
PETE-First up mate,sorry for not picking up on your S+D queries the other night,as you could probably tell,I was close to critical mass and somehow it got lost in the fog-will address fully tomorrow
Lovely rack of pix there-That platform canopy at Rugby looks kind of strange against the old brick of the building-which looks suspiciously like the model for the old Super-Quick card kit would`nt you say ?
Those museum shots are absolute beautys-that South East & Chatham 4-4-0 back-lit from the rooflights is a classic,as is the North-Eastern ( Worsdell..? ) 4-4-0 with the Midland `Single` in the background....definately beers on me [tup][tup]
LARS-A cracking spread of your signature cars there-Whilst the `state of the art` cars have a certain `presence` to them,for my [2c] you cant beat the older styles-they look to be part of a whole with the loco(s) & other cars rather than design statements in their own right-and whilst I`m opening cans of worms-for my next [2c] the part dome cars are more aesthetically pleasing than the full ones -that should stimulate conversation [:-,][}:)][:-,]..
On a slightly looser note-does anyone else think the dome in the last pic looks like a transplanted B-17 cockpit........?
TED-(If you are out there...................)-Big thumbs up on the layout-I shall have to see if I can match you for progress-an excellent incentive-that big red building must have taken forever and a day.
Now I`ve seen that slip/3-way complex in place I can draw you up a diagram-will E-mail you r.e. further details
Particulaly enjoyed the pic of `Minnie`pretending to be an urban park-Lordy but she`s a tiny little thing !--Our three monsters make her look like a kitten ( I`m 6`1" & the biggest one can stretch up and hook her claws in my belt without effort )
AL-Thanks for kind thoughts and clarification R.E O.N.R F.P7`s-If you want to keep your files current,not sure if you know-Northlander currently formed by GP38-2,train heat car ( `b` unit with traction motors removed ) plus (usually)2 coach cars plus food-service car on the tail-consist can vary (especially on high days & holidays)-5 cars with a geep on each end has been noted recently-Apparently Bombardier double-deck GO-Transit cars are occaisionally attached as the O.N.R North Bay Shops have the service contract on them.
MIKE-thanks for kind thoughts-E-Mail in preparation[tup]
O.K-just going to nip out the back and check on Boris,back with captions directly,nick[C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well welcome back to part two:-more pix from the old country ( for some of you,anyway..)

The first batch,as previously noted,are of Haverfordwest-points of interest,the distance between the platforms-the line was originally laid out for I.K.Brunel`s 7`0" broad gauge -later reconstruction to std. gauge left sufficient room for a centre road,now removed,although location still visible-connected to `up` side running line-formerly two spurs on up side-roughly opposite goods shed-serving milk & cattle docks.
Down side loop runs behind platform on right,double -ended siding serving the goods shed outside that,fan of stub-end tracks outside that all closing in on the down running line.
No lead track but up/down passing track continues for .25 mile south of station with up track signalled for both-way working
Apologies for quality of these pix-taken 10-15 years ago on 110 point & press

Right then,here`s where we go all black & white-A little tour in the TARDIS to Snowdonia before the second world war....( O.K Boris-pull the red lever.)
#1-Not strictly a W.H.R engine,but included for completeness, N.W.N.G "Snowdon Ranger"-Vulcan Foundry,`Fairlie`1877-scrapped prior to opening of W.H.R
#2-Former P.B & S.S.R " Russell"-Hunslet,1906-still in service
#3-"Russell"-after "rebuilding" at F.R`s Boston Lodge works to fit reduced clearances through Moelwyn tunnel
#4 Again not a true W.H.R engine,N.W.N.G Hunslet `Fairlie` `Gowrie`,1908-sold-1916-scrapped post 1928
#5 -A more familiar image for you guys,-Baldwin#590,ex-war dept.-an unpopular engine with crews because of rough riding-apparently a common complaint,informed debate suggests that the same cylinder angle was used as the Alco 2-6-2 tanks,throwing the torque into the wrong part of the chassis-opinions welcomed.........
And so on to the next batch :-
#6-Here we have Festiniog Rly "Little Giant" ( George England,1867) at the north end of Beddgelert-in the background is the delightfully named`Royal Goat Hotel`-still open and going from strength to strength [^]
#7-The south end of the station,looking north (when enlarged,Snowdon can just be seen through the mist-in the fore ground are "Moel Tryfan" & "Russell"-c.1935
#8-South end again,this time F.R "Welsh Pony" (see last weeks pix) with a train of F.R stock on left and "Russell" with W.H.R stock on right-note station mistress in traditional Welsh costume by the cab of "Welsh Pony",also gentleman in right foreground-standing in approximate position where previous shot was taken
#9-Here we have Dinas Junction-the headquarters of both the N.W.N.G and the W.H.R-on the extreme left is the L.M.S line north to Caernavon, the narrow gauge `platform roads` (with "Russell" running round in the far distance) extended out into a raised slate trans-shipment wharf,the goods shed had a narrow gauge through siding & a std gauge stub-track and the track on the right (with a carriage parked on it ) ran out to a std-into-narrow gauge coal tippler
#10-looking in the other direction from the same road bridge.we have-the carriage sheds,the head-shunt ( note -engine shed roads lead off from here rather than main running line-the only n/g line I have seen which was laid out with this much care-Tryfan Jn,slightly further up the line was originally laid out with 5 turnouts & 11 signals-I would have done it with 1 turnout & a noticeboard.......Engine sheds,signal box and L.M.S branch south to Afon Wen
So-I think thats everything covered,see you all tomorrow,take care chaps...!,nick,[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) barndad Doug Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 08:13:34 (232) 6 Pix!

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 08:14:23 (232) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 08:17:48 (232) Yawn!

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 08:19:21 (232) Rugby & Haverfordwest: 6 Pix!

(5) barndad Doug Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 08:58:45 (232) 6 Pix!

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 08:59:41 (232) 5 Pix from Pete!

(7) barndad Doug Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 09:51:19 (232) 6 Pix!

(8) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 10:52:05 (232) 6 Pix!

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 10:55:10 (232) 5 Pix from Nick!

(10) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 12:13:23 (232) Acknowledgments, etc.

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 12:29:06 (232) reply to LoveDomes

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:09:06 (232) 6 Pix from Pete!

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:13:36 (232) 5 Pix from Nick!

(14) siberianmo Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:15:47 (232) 5 Pix from Ted!

(15) passengerfan Al Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 14:38:09 (232) for Lars

(16) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 15:00:38 (232) for Al

(17) barndad Doug Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 15:02:24 (232) Pix comments, etc.

(18) pwolfe Pete Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 18:52:35 (232) Pix descriptions, etc.

(19) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 19:35:50 (232) January Sunday Photo Posting Day! Index

(20) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 19:55:21 (232) Pix comments, etc.

(21) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 21:30:57 (232) Pix descriptions



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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang Time for my usual morning coffee and a crumpet from the Mentor Bakery.

Nick Thx for the futrther information on the ONR trains, daughter lives about a mile from the train route will see if I can get her to slip over their and get some photos.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER # 51

TEXAS SPECIAL MKT – SLSF Trains 1-2 May 16, 1948 St. Louis – San Antonio daily service each direction 1,038 miles 18 hours 25 minutes

The TEXAS SPECIAL was a jointly operated St. Louis to San Antonio operation of the MKT and StLSF railroads. Each railroad initially owned one train of the new lightweight streamlined TEXAS SPECIALS. The lightweight streamlined TEXAS SPECIALS began service May 16, 1948 replacing heavyweight trains in this service with a faster schedule. The StLSF better known as the Frisco operated the TEXAS SPECIAL over their rails between St. Louis and Vinita, Oklahoma, from there to Dallas, Fort Worth and on to San Antonio the MKT better known as the Katy operated the TEXAS SPECIALS. The trains were painted with bright red window bands, roofs, and car ends. The letter board and sides of the car were fluted stainless steel. The power was painted in a matching red scheme with only the lower third of the unit’s car sides having a stainless steel fluted panel. The TEXAS SPECIAL would carry through Sleeping Cars to and from New York and Washington operated over the PRR in their PENN TEXAS beyond St. Louis and in the B&O NATIONAL LIMITED to Washington.

FRISCO CONSIST

2000 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

2001 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

250 ROCK HILL Baggage 30’Railway Post Office Car

1250 OLIVETTE 56-Revenue Seat Coach

1251 PASADENA HILLS 56-Revenue Seat Coach

1252 BADEN 56-revenue Seat Coach

1650 STERLING PRICE 26-Revenue Seat Coach 25-Seat Buffet Lounge Car

650 ALEXANDER DONIPHAN 36-Seat Dining Car (St. Louis – Springfield)

1450 PIERRE LACLEDE 14 Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (St. Louis – Fort Worth)

1451 THOMAS HART BENTON 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (St. Louis – Dallas)

1452 HENRY SHAW 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (St. Louis – Dallas)

1453 FRANCIS P. BLAIR 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (St. Louis – San Antonio)

1454 AUGUSTE CHOUTEAU 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (New York – San Antonio via PRR PENN TEXAS to and from St. Louis)

1455 GEORGE G. VEST 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Washington – San Antonio via B&O NATIONAL LIMITED to and from St. Louis)

1360 JOSEPH PULITZER 2-Crew Dormitory 2-Double Bedroom 1-Drawing Room Buffet 21-Seat Lounge Observation (St. Louis – San Antonio)

MISSOURI-KANSAS-TEXAS CONSIST

101A EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

101C EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

1000 ANSON B JONES Baggage 30’Railway Post Office Car

1200 EDWARD BURLESON 56-Revenue Seat Coach

1201 DAVID E. BURNETT 56-Revenue Seat Coach

1202 J. PINCKNEY HENDERSON 56-Revenue Seat Coach

1300 MIRABEAU B. LAMAR 26-Revenue Seat Coach 25-Seat Buffet Lounge Car

1100 SAM HOUSTON 36-Seat Dining Car (San Antonio - Muskogee)

1500 JAMES W. FANNIN 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Fort Worth – St. Louis)

1501 BENJAMIN B. MILAM 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Dallas – St. Louis)

1502 WILLIAM B. DAVIS 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Dallas – St. Louis)

1503 DAVID CROCKETT 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (San Antonio – St. Louis)

1504 JAMES BOWIE 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (San Antonio – New York via PRR PENN TEXAS to and from 5St. Louis)

1505 JAMES B. BONHAM 14-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (San Antonio – Washington via B&O NATIONAL LIMITED to and from St. Louis)

1400 STEPHEN F. AUSTIN 2-Crew Dormitory 2-Double Bedroom 1-Drawing Room Buffet 21- Seat Lounge Observation (San Antonio – St. Louis)

The joint operation of the TEXAS SPECIAL by the M-K-T and Frisco began March 4, 1917 with the Frisco being responsible for the train between St. Louis and Vinita, Oklahoma and the KATY responsible from that point to San Antonio.
A third consist became necessary when it was discovered the schedule was too tight to operate with just two train sets. The Frisco and MKT used the best heavyweight cars they could muster for the third train and the two extra sleeping cars as well as off line cars for the third train.
An interesting note on the TEXAS SPECIAL it split into two trains one through Dallas and one through Fort Worth between Denison, Texas and Waco where the two sections came together once again. Interesting that today’s Interstate 35 splits much the same to serve both Dallas and Fort Worth.

In 1959 the FRISCO withdrew from the TEXAS SPECIAL operation and the MKT operated it on its own as a Kansas City – San Antonio train after that time.

In 1964 the TEXAS SPECIAL became a Kansas City – Dallas only train.

Time ran out for the TEXAS SPECIAL finally in 1965.

TTFN AL