"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[siberianmo]

Evenin’ Gents!

Some info that needs to be periodically Posted:

The Food Service at ”Our” Place –

…Monday thru Saturday: Light breakfasts – bakery goods from The Mentor Village Bakery and sandwiches all day long made from the freshest lunchmeats in the county along with freshly baked bread for the grinders/hoagies/heros/subs……
....NO evening meals Monday thru Wednesday.
…Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips nite and Nick’s Picks or whatever our Chief Chef [C=:-)] conjures up!.
…Friday: Pizza nite – Steak ‘n fries nite, and…….
…Saturday: Steak ‘n fries and …….


Also, “Nick’s House Rules” are officially adopted and have been posted in the pool room.

(1) All emotional baggage to be checked at the door.
(2) No ladies of negotiable affection before midnight.
(3) No whizzing in the spittoons at any time.
(4) The Ladies are always right, regardless of circumstance.
(5) Food available until Chef finds the bottle.
(6) Lightly oil & polish barmaids between shifts.


Comments:

I noted a request for SPAM a bit earlier …. We’ll have to discuss this with our Bar Chandler for unless there is some spirited away with those K-rations he found, we do not stock that item, deliberately. Anyone ‘round here who lived during WWII knows all about SPAM – it ain’t “glory food” in my humble opinion. Sorry, but it ain’t gonna be put on the menu [tdn]

Also, a bit surprised at the lack of response for the ENCORE! Posts. [%-)][%-)]


To the acknowledgments:

nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 19:01:35

A nice aspect of sport is that some are wins, some are losses, and others are rained out. Over an 18-year span, it just had to be Wales’ turn, eh [?] Good show! [tup][tup] What kinda rowdy behavior followed the victory, if any [?] Just curious …..

Unless you have your own private stock of SPAM, there ain’t any stocked ‘round here! (See above …..) [tdn] We go from 5-star cuisine to bottom of the barrel in a heartbeat! [swg]

Spent a bit of time downloading and uploading your pix for the ‘morrow. All are ready to go …. [tup]

Good thing for those looking for more than “steak ‘n fries” tonight, for had you not shown up, that’s what would’ve been prepared. We are a bar ‘n grill – unless of course, our Chief Chief [C=:-)] is on aboard! [swg]

Thanx for the brew! [tup]

earlydiesels Dan Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 19:45:48

Two visits in one day AND back to orderin’ beer! Sounds to me like Dan’s back! [yeah] [tup][tup] Good show, Mate!

Your discussion of the Frisco diesel house brings to mind a word; change. It is a dynamic thing for sure and something none of us can prevent. We may not like it, nor support it, but it happens nonetheless. The past gets relegated to the pages of history, and if we are fortunate, in images as well. Structures, however, come ‘n go. Sad, no doubt. But that’s change.

I still think that 50 plus trains a day is phenomenal in this day ‘n age. You are living in a great place for train watching, no doubt. I’ve never gotten into that aspect of it all – I mean going out of my way to sit ‘n wait for a train to pass. I don’t knock those who do, but it’s just not something I’ve done. Of course had I been anywhere near that mainline between Halifax and Montreal when the 33-car Via Rail Remembrance Day Train passed by, I surely would have waited for that! [tup]

By the by, “Hey Porter!” is on the Juke – try G17. [swg]

barndad Doug Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 20:19:06

At the rate I’m going, I just may wind up being 1/87th my size one of these daze! [swg] Nicely done! [tup]

I understand your thinking regarding Sunday. However, as one who has “been” here every Sunday since we opened (with the exception of one while in Canada back in May), we do have quite a few who “read” what’s Posted. Anyway, I reiterate the purpose – we do NOT want to be like every other thread – our pix are reserved for one day per week and I hope the majority of us continue to hold to that idea. Actually, I’m referring more to the “spread” of pix, rather than an occasional one here or there – but then again, you know that.

In scanning through your epistle of tonight, looks like another “winnah!” fer sure, fer sure. [tup][tup] Too late for heavy readin’ for me – save it for the ‘morrow.

One of the reasons I created the Monday Index was to provide a way for those who missed “worthwhile” Posts to review them. Also gives a chance to look at ‘em again, for those who like to do those sorts of things as well. Your recent contributions are now “indexed.” [tup]

nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 20:24:06

What’s to say about THAT menu, other than, “chow time” boyz! [swg] [tup][tup][tup]


Looks like Leon the Night Man has arrived. That’s my ticket outta here – been a long, but busy day. Good show guys. Boris Ring the bell, drinks on the house!

Remember, we are CLOSED on Sundays and I hope we’ll see a bit more productivity from the guys for Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[red p]

How about a jack and coke here?
Just drug in a coal train, been a long night.
I did see something interesting though. I was in the yard and saw one of the Brown
Trailer train flats (1960s) I didnt think there were any of those left.

[Anonymous]

Good morning all! Here's the second part of my Trackwalking acticle:


Walking the Track by John White Jr. From Vintage Rails magazine Mar/Apr 1998

Even when the force of nature relented, the trackwalker had ample duties to keep him occupied. He was basically an inspector, and like the cop on the beat, he came to know every nook and cranny on his part of the line. His main focus was on the condition of the track. Was anything broken, loose or missing that might endanger a train? He would fix small items on the spot. Loose spikes were tapped down; loose joint nut were tightened. Debris was picked up and thrown clear of the track. He checked frogs, switch points, and switch stands. He cleared ice or junk from frogs or guard rails or roadway crossings with the claw end of his long handled hammer. In winter he swept these same groove ways clear of snow – a broom became standard equipment on snowy days. He looked for broken signals and fencing. He made sure fence gates were closed and secure to keep cattle off the tracks. Hogs and cattle tended to roam, seeking feed or just trying to escape the insects that inhabit grass and bushes. The track, being clear, offered the animals a respite from insect bites; yet the poor beasts did not comprehend that this “safe” area was actually intended for the passage of trains and not the accommodation of livestock. If the walker could not drive the animals away, he would at least advise the dispatcher via telegraph that cattle were on the track at milepost 102, for example.

As the trackwalker approached a siding, he looked for cars overhanging the therefore fouling the main line. He saw that the derail switches were properly lined and locked. It was also his job to clean up ashes dumped on the main line at the water tanks. Firemen would sometimes shake the locomotive grates while filling the tender tank, and such debris was considered a hazard. There seemed no end to his duties, but just to make sure he did not waste the company’s time, they made him a lamp tender, too. Every switch had a kerosene lamp, and it was his job to extingui***hese lamps in morning and refill the oil, trim the wicks, and then relight them in the afternoon. If there were many lamps or if they were widely scattered, the walker was sometimes furnished with a three-wheeled handcar (called a velocipede) to speed the lamp-tending part of his job. The lamp tender was instructed to run his vehicle, if possible, toward approaching trains so that he was not entirely dependent on his hearing to sense oncoming danger.

We must come back to the chief duty of the trackwalker, which was to prevent accidents. No matter what the problem, large or small, his basic job was to warn or stop trains before accidents occurred. If there was a small defect, such as a loose spike, he was expected to fix it. But then let’s say he came upon a washout, or a broken switch frog, or some other defect beyond his capacity to correct. What was he to do? Run off and report the problem to his boss, the section gang leader? No, indeed. He was to stand and flag down trains. He knew to place torpedoes at proper distances from the obstructions, just in case an engine crew failed to see his flag signal. Once traffic was stopped, there would be time to call for help.

Clearly, this job called for judgment and a calm, mature nature and not some hyper schoolboy type who would run off wanting Mom or Dad to tell him what to do next. For this reason, the section boss always picked his best man for the job of trackwalker. It was a position of trust. The best man was sober, trustworthy, and reliable. He was not a dreamer or a thinker, but a down-to-earth sort of fellow who concentrated on the job at hand and nothing else. He was not bored by the routine of his occupation. The repetition of going over the same four miles of track seven days a week did not dull his attention. He looked with open eyes at every detail as he walked along.

The trackwalker carried only necessary tools: a wrench, a hammer, and a flagman’s shoulder bag that held torpedoes, fusees, a red flag, and a few nuts, bolts, and spikes. In areas where rockslides were common, his bag would hold a few sticks of blasting powder to blow up the larger rocks. He carried a watch and an employee’s timetable in order to know what trains to expect. A broom was added to his equipment during the snow season. If he was on night shift, his load would be considerably lighter. He carried a lantern and the flagman’s bag but left the heavy tools back at the tool shed. The night man’s beat was surely a solitary task, for most folks were at home in bed. To stay awake, the trackwalker would occasionally stop at a cold string along the line to splash his face. He had only the company of the owl. And then out of the stillness would come an express. The inspector stepped aside. He was an anonymous blur or speck of light to passengers inside the train – this little nobody of a man who helped them pass safely.

The day ma was scheduled to start his inspection just before the first major passenger train of the day passed over his section. In this way, a safe track was more or less assured for the passengers. On a busy main line, he would walk over the section twice each way for a total of 16 to 20 miles. This required six to seven hours. In 1900, a work day was 10 hours, so when his walking duties were over, he would report to the section gang boss and work with the track crew to fill out his time.

The dress of the trackwalker was befitting of a working man. Dungarees or old pants and a coat plus heavy shoes were his usual attire. Yet there were a few dandies even among these rustic folks. One such gent is pictured in Hunger-ford’s The Modern Railroad on page 209, wearing a dark jacket with a double row of buttons and a smart looking billed cap with a large polished brass hat badge.

Just how many trackwalkers were employed on U.S. railroads is poorly documented. The number of track workers is very much a matter of record. The following table gives a clear picture of the decline of the track workers on U.S. railroads:

Year Track Workers Total RR Employees
1905 -- 349,000 -- 1,382,000
1920 -- 480,000 -- 2,022,000
1929 -- 435,000 -- 1,660,000
1943 -- 274,000 -- 1,355,000
1961 -- 105,000 -- 717,000
1976 -- 86,000 -- 482,000
1990 -- 47,000 -- 230,000

We can deduce a rough estimate of trackwalkers from these numbers. Let us agree that a typical section gang comprised eight men including the foreman. If one of the gang was a trackwalker, or even if he was an extra ninth man, it’s fairly easy to calculate that just over 10 percent of the track workers served as trackwalkers.



[:I] Hope you enjoyed Part II ! [:I]

[red p]

well heres my offering for the day


PC4035 Elkhart, IN 3/70

[Anonymous]

Here's Part III of my Trackwalker series:

Walking the Track by John White Jr. From Vintage Rails magazine Mar/Apr 1998

Every efficient business seeks to reduce its number of employees while maintaining the quality of his product. Railroads are no different. The long-term rise in wages and benefits costs have accelerated this process. Some jobs disappear because they become obsolete, as was the case of the trackwalker. As early as 1903, W.H. Camp said railroads were gradually eliminating the trackwalkers, primarily because the introduction of steel rails had made track so much more durable and safe. The section foreman took over the duties of the walker and often made inspection on a hand car. Yet it was considered prudent to patrol dangerous or troublesome sections the old-fashioned way, so the trackwalker did not disappear for some years to come.

Still, labor costs kept the pressure on to eliminate workers. In the 19th century, most track workers were dollar-a-day laborers. By 1916, the average wage for railroad workers had crept up to 28 cents an hour, and by 1941 it was 85 cents. Unions pushed for retirement and health benefits. The 40-hour work week and minimum wage created two more reasons to cut jobs. Railroad managers sought ways to downsize. The most direct way to do this was through technological changes. Diesel locomotives led to the closure of many maintenance shops and so reduced employment by the thousands. Track maintenance mechanization ended the traditional hard labor of the section gang. Advancing technology also made track stronger, more reliable, and less the collection of loose parts that it formerly had been. Welded rail replaced dubious fishplates, bolts, and washers. Screw or clip spikes did a far better job of holding rails in place. Better quality controls at rail mills and superior methods of inspection before the rail entered service greatly reduced the number of rail failures. Track inspection cars, such a s those operated by Sperry Rail Service starting in 1928, made rail inspection more of a science and less of a handicraft service. Simultaneously, many other tasks one attended to by the trackwalker began to disappear as well. Switch stand lamps were electrified, wire fences hooked into the signaling system alerted crews to rockslides, and propane heaters kept switch frogs clear of ice.

Yet, for all of these remarkable developments, some railroad managers believed the trackwalker was essential to railroad safety and that nothing could replace the attentive gaze of a good man moving slowly down the track on foot. Tom Arnold, a B&O brakeman who retired in 1976, told me in a 1995 interview that there were no trackwalkers when he started work in 1936. However, his knowledge was limited to the Baltimore area, and it is possible that the B&O had trackwalkers on the more mountainous divisions to the west.

At least one western railroad, the Southern Pacific, had a few trackwalkers on the staff in 1949-50, for Richard Steinheimer photographed one of them at work. The picture (bottom of Part II of this series) is reproduced in Lucius Beebe’s Central Pacific and Southern Pacific Railroads (1963).

The Lackawanna replaced most trackwalkers with motor cars around 1940, but it retained them on one electrified commuter portion of the line in New Jersey until at least 1969 and perhaps beyond that date, according to Perry M. Shoemaker, a former DL&W president. In a similar manner, the Central Railroad Company of New Jersey retained the use of trackwalkers on the New Jersey City to Elizabethport section of the line also until the late 1960s. The Altoona Railroaders Memorial Museum states that the Penn Central used trackwalkers in Altoona, Pennsylvania, area until the early 1970s.

Perhaps the walkers maintained the plodding inspection duties elsewhere on the American railroad network until a later date, but if so, we have found no evidence to confirm such activity. Just where and when the last walker made his final hike is to remain a mystery. Today such jaunts are mode from the comfort of Hi-Rail vehicles. Truck inspectors now must get their exercise at the gym instead of on the job.

[siberianmo]

SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

We are CLOSED on SUNDAY! However, it is SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! For those who have something to say, drop off your Posts through the slots in either set of front doors! [tup] Remember: This is a day for pix, not narratives! [swg]

Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear or a fool from any direction. [swg]

Info for the Day:

We open up at 6 AM, Monday morning! (All time zones, don’t ask how we do that!) [swg]

SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 00:21:57 (174) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(2) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 00:42:51 (174) Inclusive Post!

(3) barndad Doug Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 06:59:54 (174) PRR Poster, etc.

(4) passengerfan Al Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 07:38:51 (174) Streamliner #14 – Southerners

(5) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 07:45:22 (174)

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 08:35:21 (174) Acknowledgments, etc.

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 08:52:02 (174) ENCORE! Nostalgia #3 – CP Hotels/Lodges

(8) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 11:32:11 (174) Inclusive Post, etc.

(9) barndad Doug Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 11:41:43 (174) Pix

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 11:49:07 (174) reply to earlydiesels

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 11:55:06 (174) reply to barndad

(12) wanswheel Mike Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 14:11:13 (174) Inclusive Post, etc.

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 15:30:36 (174) reply to: wanswheel

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 15:35:51 (174) ENCORE! Nostalgia #4 – CNR Hotels

(15) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 19:01:35 (174) Inclusive Post, etc.

(16) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 19:45:48 (174)

(17) barndad Doug Posted: 26 Nov 2005 20:19:06 (174) Waling the Track, Part I, etc.

(18) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 20:24:06 (174) Menu!

(19) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 21:12:34 (174) Acknowledgments, etc.

(20) ftwNSengineer
Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 23:13:17 (175) Last call!

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

Here are some Pix of the progress with the S Capades layout and a couple of shots from the Can-Am RR right-of-way:

Landscape progress on the S Capades!


Landscape progress on the S Capades!


Ground level on the S-Capades!


Landscape progress on the S-Capades!


Motive power on the S-Capades!


Ground level on the S-Capades!


ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCENES: Mountain right-of-way on the Can-Am RR!


ANOTHER OF MY FAVORITE SCENES: Dual track mainline on the Can-Am RR!



That’s it – Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[passengerfan]

Good Mornig Tom and the rest of the gang. I know we are closed on Sunday but juts wanted to thank Barndad Doug for the trackwalker article. I still have evey copy Vintage Rail magazine it was to bad they quit.

Tom I agree with you whole heartedly about no Spam on the menu. For some reason my Dad a WW II veteran liked the stuff and god knows he ate enough during the war. For some reason he thought it would help his two growing sons and their was not a week went by it wasn't on the menu at least twice. My mother wouldn't touch the stuff the only intelligent one in the family.

By the way Tom sure like the looks of your S-Gauge especially the IC streamliner.

PASSENGER FAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER #15

CONGRESSIONAL trains 124-131 and 152-153 inaugurated as complete streamliners March 17, 1952. New York - Washington two round trips daily. 226.6 miles each way 4 hours 30 minutes each way.

The Pennsylvania Railroads finest train between New York and Washington had been the CONGRESSIONAL for many years but refurbished and railroad built cars did not a streamliner make. Remember at this time the PRR still had competition from the B&O between Washington and New York.

In January 1950 the PRR ordered four trains from Budd in Philadelphia that would once and for all decide who had the finest trains operating in the Northeast Corridor. Two of the new Budd built streamliners were to be named the SENATORS for service between Washington - New York - Boston with the NYNH&H operating the trains north of New York. Two sest of equipment were needed for servioce in each direction daily.

Though the equipment for the SENATOR was excellent that for the new CONGRESSIONALS was superb providing the finest day trains to operate in the Corridor. The Pennsylvania spared no expense on the new trains. Each CONGRESSIONAL was built as an eighteen car train and was designed to attract the leaders of industry and politicians to ride the finest available between the two cities. This was in the days before their were shuttles flying between the cities and the piston engine planes flying between Washington and New York by the time one took a taxi to and from the airports was not much faster than the trains. The new trains were also bult to serve the leaders of the world from the United Nations building in New York to the Capital in Washington.

The new trains were delivered in March 1952 and entered service with much fanfare on March 17, 1952. The PRR went so far as two assign two recently shopped freshly painted GG-1 Electrics as power for the inaugural trains. The Budd cars were stainless steel with a letterboard above the windows painted tuscan red with yellow lettering.

The CONGRESSIONAL accommodated 480 coach passengers and 223 parlor car patrons. The trains were also equipped with the only Conference Room cars ever built for any railroad. Many company board meetings and other business was conducted as the trains sped between Washington and New York in these cars.

CONSIST ONE DEPARTING WASHINGTON

4839 PRR GG-1 Electric Passenger Locomotive

1568 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1569 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1570 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1571 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1153 18-Seat Lunch Counter 22-Seat Tavern Lounge Car

1572 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1573 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1574 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1575 60-Revenue Seat Coach

4624 72-Seat Dining Room Car

4625 Kitchen Bar 21-Seat Lounge Car

7147 THOMAS A. EDISON 7- Parlor Conference Room Car With Telephone Room

7130 CASIMAR PULASKI 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7131 GENERAL LAFAYETTE 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7132 HENRY KNOX 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Seat Parlor Drawingr Room

7133 JOHAN PRINTZ 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7134 JOHNS HOPKINS 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7128 GEORGE WASHINGTON 18-Revenue Seat Parlor Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Observation

CONSIST TWO DEPARING NEW YORK

4847 PRR GG-1 Electric Passenger Locomotive

1576 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1577 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1578 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1579 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1154 18-Seat Lunch Counter Bar 21-Seat Tavern Lounge Car

1580 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1581 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1582 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1583 60-Revenue Seat Coach

4626 72-Seat Dining Room Car

4627 Kitchen Bar 21-Seat Lounge Car

7146 MATHIAS W. BALDWIN 7-Conference Room Parlor Car with Telephone Room

7135 LEONARD CALVERT 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7136 ROBERT MORRIS 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7137 WILLIAM PENN 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7143 MOLLY PITCHER 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7145 BETSY ROSS 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7129 ALEXANDER HAMILTON 18-Revenue Seat Parlor Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Observation

TTFN AL

[Anonymous]

Just took a peek to see how Photos are progressing. Good things from the Can-Am and S'capades and a two soul wrenching shots by Barndad, neat E-7 from ftwNSengineer. I'll drop back later for more goodies. Sure appreciate you guy's extra effort on a quiet Sunday afternoon[tup].

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

Here are 9 pix from Nick for this fine day:

click to enlarge

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#9



Go to http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Nicks%20pix/ to see the rest of Nick’s Pix!

Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[passengerfan]

Great photos Nick and thanks for posting them Tom.

[Anonymous]

Great colo(u)r and compostion with your pix Nick. Fine combined effort with Tom...what a team!

[trolleyboy]

Afternoon gentlemen. Been a bad net conection day so i haven't been able to puruse everything. a couple of responces anyhow.


Tom Thanks for the reroll on the CN/CP hotels,hgood stuff even the second time around. I'll just grab a tea today though gots to work again tonight. [sigh] I'm glad that BK able to come and go as he pleases and still make money,got to find me a job like that [tup][swg]



Nick Nice menu but for the spam , I'm with Tom that stuff is not fit for man nor beast ( well Boris does like it so for Boris maybe ) Also I'm glad H&H were able to make it back home. I would have loved to see the figure head shots.Hmmm on second thought maybe not[:O] Also I'm glad I was in the head while the nipple expose was occuring [:O] No human needed to see that,even Boris was fightened took at least 4 blue pills to calm him. Tex has been in a catatonic state ( rolled up in a ball ) ever since as well. Some spam and K ration casarole should snap the two of them out of it though. [swg][:-^]


Doug nother good article interesting to see that track walking to a certain degree still happens,figured it would have all gone by the way of the highrail truck by now.Nice job with capturing Tom's best side BTW [:D]


Al Another fine couple of streamliner info spots. I didn't figure that you would give us all the poop up front [tup] I do remember hearing about the TTC trying to move buses onto the queen route,tried for it on St Clair and Spadina as well. The streetcars did however prove to be more flexible. St Clair has recieved a partial private ROW ( raised center lane ) looks as though Spadina is to get the same treatment finally as well. ( some residents are still fighting that though, likely the hummer owning soccer mom set )

Ted [/d] Yup that romanian site was quite good. Interesting contraptions those three door trolley busses.You need to make up post cards of sleighs flying over the palm trees.that ought to confuse Boris for sure [swg]

[b]Mike Nice bit of civil war info on the CV and pres Lincoln. I'll poke about and see if i have any good shots of the 81" drivered H5 hudsons for you. Thanks for the url's , I exited out before I got the whole picture unfortunatly my diakl up kept crashing on it,I'm sure the shots were good though. [tup]

[trolleyboy]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ftwNSengineer

How about a jack and coke here?
Just drug in a coal train, been a long night.
I did see something interesting though. I was in the yard and saw one of the Brown
Trailer train flats (1960s) I didnt think there were any of those left.

Hey thank's for stopping by again, loved your picture that you posted as well.Speaking of old interesting rolling stock, last week in the yard by our Via station we has a Cylindrical hopper still painted with the "wabash follow the flag" paint job and logo's.

Well a couple of photo's for eveyone.




Shot of H5 Hudson as seen today stuffed and mounted at the Elgin Couty railway museum in St Thomas ontario ( only survivor of class )




Mountain 6060 still in service today in excursion service in Alberta. Last of the Bullet nosed Betty's




CP Hudson rebuilt for service in 2001/2002 on first cross country tour in the summer of 2003. Milton Ontario



photo of cn's bayview junction in Burlington on.



cn train passing through bayview jct.




cp train passing under high level bridge (plains road ) approaching bayview jct.



With all the talk of inspection cars latley, here's OSR's car at Guelph jct

[nickinwestwales]

Evenin fella`s,just stopped by to throw some captions at the pix,so before I forget:-
1-Vallee Jct,Quebec Central ( C.P. subs)July 1st,1954-This struck me as an `Our Place` kind of pic,the sort of `vibe` [4:-)]TOM would approve
2-Sudbury,C.P.R-Eastbound `Canadian`,Canada Day,1986
3-Ramore sub,O.N.R-#47,North Bay-Timmins,mid 50`s-Love that paint on those F.P7`s[^]
4-A Welsh assortment,clockwise fr t.lft -Festiniog Rly #4`Palmerston` at Newcastle Emlyn,Teifi Valley Rly-mid nineties,Vale of Rheidol #9 `Owain Glyndwr`.Aber.-early nineties,Welshpool & Llanfair #2 `The Countess`,Llanfair Caereinion-early 90`s,Mystery engine-spotted in the Welsh Highland Rly yard at Portmadoc,looks like the Hunslet`s made for war service but without the 3rd coupled axle.-I suspect that if she could tell her tale,it would be in the accent of a former British colony
5-Another `military` engine,Ex MoS J94 `Errol Lonsdale`-Gwili Rly,spr 03
6-We are on the shore of Bala Lake here,the first train of the day is running round whilst crossing the P.Way diesel,hiding behind the steam
Llanberis and Yr Wyddfa ( Snowdon) are lost in the mists,next we have the balanced funicular that served some of the galleries. 7- running round again,back at Llanberis-in 20 minutes the weather had changed completely, so on to the Festiniog,Double Fairlie `David Lloyd George` making up train at Portmadoc
8-As above,plus shot from footbridge at Tan-Y-Bwlch of departing train.
9-Welsh Highland Railway ( northern part) Ex-South African Funkey Bo-Bo at Dinas Jn & running around at Waunfawr with the brooding bulk of Snowdon for a backdrop.

[4:-)]TOM-I dont know how you do it, I`ve just been to look at the photo site-they look better than the originals,nice one mate-big thanks[tup][^][tup]
Will look in in the morning,when we are open,and check out all the other pix-for now,I got stuff,I`m outa here,nick [C=:-)]
We now move on to the Festiniog

[siberianmo]

Evenin’ Gents!

As you are aware, this day has been set aside for things other than the Ether. We are still CLOSED but thought I’d get a leg up on the acknowledgments:

Looks like another Sunday Photo Posting Day! has come to a near end ….

Nick I really, really enjoyed the ONR and VIA Rail shots, and of course the trains in the yard. Nice! Thanx for the pix descriptions! [tup][tup]

Rob I think you are spending far too much time at work … we are CLOSED on SUNDAYS! – there’s no one at the bar today! [swg]

Thanx Al for your understanding in replying to my Email [tup]

Appreciate the pix from ftwNSengineer and barndad Doug! [tup]

Thanx for the “support,” Ted and Al means a lot. [tup]

Rob nice photo spread – particularly liked the one with the passenger cars in Alberta. Do you know what the markings are on those coaches and where and when was the pix taken [?] Appreciate the participation … was beginning to wonder if I was going to be the “Lone Ranger” once again insofar as the “spreads” are concerned.

Okay, Gents – we open up at 6 AM (all time zones!), see ya then! [swg]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

We open at 6 AM, all time zones. (Don’t ask how we do that!) [swg]

G’day! Monday has arrived. A glorious long weekend for most, I hope. Let’s begin the new work week right here – freshly brewed “Joe,” <light> breakfasts and of course fresh pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery [yeah]

Having a jealous wife means if you come home with a hair on your coat, you better have the horse to match.

Info for the Day:

(1) Wednesday is “Pike Perspectives Day.”
(2) Thursday is Fish ‘n Chips Nite and maybe something from Nick’s Picks!
(3) Friday is Pizza Nite along with Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
(4) Saturday is [purple]ENCORE! Day
(5) Sunday is Sunday Photo Posting Day! and yes, we are CLOSED!

SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) barndad Doug Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 06:44:59 (175) Walking the Track, Part II; 2 Pix

(2) ftwNSengineer NSE Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 07:27:12 (175) 1 Pix!

(3) barndad Doug Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 07:33:39 (175) Walking the Track, Part III; 1 Pix

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 08:23:26 (175) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 08:25:28 (175) S Capades Pix!

(6) passengerfan Al Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 09:49:57 (175) Inclusive Post –and- Streamliner #15 – Congressional

(7) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 11:12:37 (175) [tup]

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 12:20:01 (175) Nick’s Pix!

(9) passengerfan Al Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 14:27:25 (175) [tup]

(10) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 15:34:30 (175) [tup]

(11) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 16:06:15 (175) Inclusive Post!

(12) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 16:41:56 (175) Pix!

(13) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 19:03:21 (175) Pix labels

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 19:26:35 (175) Acknowledgments!

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

This feature, called the INDEX, is now separate from the daily SUMMARY and will continue to be “Mondays only.”


A helplful hint:

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).


Fallen Flags (passenger ops)

106/150 SP ……… 106/150 MP …….. 108/155/170 WP …. 109 Frisco
112 CNR ………… 112 Heralds ……… 114 ACL .………….. 115 SAL
116 D&RGW ……. 118 RI …………… 119 D&H ..…………. 120/144 PRR
122/144 NYC …… 124 UP …………… 125 AT&SF .………. 127 B&O
128 CM&StP ……. 129 CB&Q ………. 130 Soo Line ……… 133 C&NW
134 SP&S ……….. 136 GN ………….. 139 B&M ………….. 140 NH
141 MEC .……….. 142 BAR ………… 145 NP .……………. 146 L&N
147 WRR .……….. 148 C&O ……….. 148 KCS .………….. 151 N&W
152 Erie …………. 152 IC ..………….. 154 NPR .….………. 155 SR
156 CGW ……….. 157 RDG ………… 158 MON ....………. 159 IT
162 LV ………….. 163 GM&O ..…….. 164 Extra


Passenger Train Nostalgia

110 ……… MKT Combined Fallen Flag and Ads
112 ……… CNR Ad - Super Continental Time Table
113/144 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 ”Start ups” 1800s & early 1900s
117/144 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 Ad - Vista-Dome sleeper obs-lounge
121/174 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 Ad - CP Hotels & Lodges
124 ………. A tale of Classic Trains BC Rail RDC trip
127 ………. B&O Ad - Strata-Dome
127 ………. B&O Ad – Diesel Electric Trains
129/174 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #4 Ad - CN Hotels, Ltd.
130 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #1 Poster - East Coast Route
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #5 Poster - CP 1886
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #6 Poster - CP 1950s
134 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #7 Poster - Washington & Old Dominion Railway
134 ………. Personal RR journey CPR’s “The Canadian”
135 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #2 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #3 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #8 Ad – Great Northern
139 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #9 Ads – Great Northern
140 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #10 Ad – Union Pacific
141 ………. Nostalgia 1956 Hotel Ads
142 ………. Nostalgia Fairbanks-Morse motive power Ad
143 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #11 Ad - PRR – The Jeffersonian
145 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #12 Ad – NP
146 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #13 Ad – L&N
146 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #4 Poster - Silver Jubilee
147 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #14 Ad – Budd & Wabash
148 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #15 Ad – C&O
149 ………. HERTZ Ad - 1956
151 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #16 Ad – Budd RDC (1950)
153 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #17 Ad – Budd RDC (1950)
153 ………. North American Steam Loco Wheel Arrangements
154 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #18 Ad – Budd RDC (1953)
155 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #19 Ad – Budd RDC (1954)
156 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #20 Ad – SP, Golden State (1951)
157 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #21 Ad – SP, Sunset limited (1951
158 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #22 Ad – SP, City of San Francisco (1951)
159 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #23 Ad – AT&SF (1950)
161 ………. Nostalgia - 9 WWII Ads ENCORE! of Veterans/Remembrance Day Commemoration
162 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #24 Ad – AT&SF (1951)
163 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #25 Ad – AT&SF (1952)
164 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #26 Ad – Olympian Hiawatha
166 ………. AVIS Ad – 1956
167 ………. Pocket List of RR Officials Ad – 1956
169 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #27 Ad – NYC Aerotrain (1956)
170 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #28 Ad – NYC Xplorer (1956)
171 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #29 Ad – CP (1950)
172 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #30 Ad – CP (1950)
173 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #31 Ad – Pullman (1950)


trolleyboy ROB’s Barn

Classic Juice

116/161 …. Classic Juice #1 (The London & Port Stanley L&PS)
123 ………. Classic Juice #2 (The Niagara St. Chatharines Toronto Railway NS&T)
131/155 …. Classic Juice #3 (The Montreal & Southern Counties Railway –MS&C)
134 ………. Classic Juice #4 (The Brantford and Hamilton B&H)
142 ………. Classic Juice #5 (The Berlin & Water Street Railway - B&WSR)
146 ………. Classic Juice #6 (The Nearside Car)
148 ………. Classic Juice #7 (The Peter Witt Story)
157 ………. Classic Juice #8 (The PCC)
140 ………. Classic Juice #9 (The Nipissing Central)
162 ………. Classic Juice #10 (The Safety Car)
163 ………. Classic Juice #11 (Electricity and the big roads in Canada Part 1 CNR)

Classic CNR Steam

159 ….. Classic CNR Steam #1 (The Huntsville Subdivision)
163 ….. Classic CNR Steam #2 (The Alliston Subdivision Trains)
165 ….. Classic CNR Steam #3 (Passenger & Freight trains on the Strathroy Subdivision)
170 ….. Classic CNR Steam #4 (Passenger & Mixed trains to Niagara Falls)
........... Classic CNR Steam #5 (Passenger trains on the Brampton & Thorndale Subdivisions)


passengerfan Al’s Streamliner Corner

166 ….. Rocky Mountain Rocket of the CRI&P (Rock Island)
166 ….. Arizona Limited of the CRI&P and SP.
167 ….. Southern Belles of the KCS.
169 ….. #1 Gulf Coast Rebel
.………. #2 Choctaw Rocket
.………. #3 Miss Lou
.………. #4 Illini
170 ….. #5 City of Las Vegas
.………. #6 Land O’Corn
.………. #7 Prospectors
171 ….. #8 Twin Star Rocket
.………. #9 Dixie Flagler
172 … #10 City of Miami
……… #11 South Wind
173 …. #12 Electroliners
……… #13 Streamliners
174 …. #14 Southerners
175 …. #15 Congressional

barndad Doug’s Roundhouse

168 ….. The Making of a Signalman, Part I
……….. The Making of a Signalman, Part II
……….. The Making of a Signalman, Part III
171 ….. Through Thick & Thin, Part I
……….. Through Thick & Thin, Part II
……….. Through Thick & Thin, Part III
172 ….. Through Thick & Thin, Part IV
174 ….. Walking the Track, Part I
175 ….. Walking the Track, Part II
175 ….. Walking the Track, Part III


NOTE: Please try to refrain from Posting on Sundays – that’s MY DAY OFF and these Index compilations take time to format! [swg] Plus it detracts from the idea of Sunday Photo Posting Day! Thank you! [tup]


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[daveklepper]

The Senator's Budd equipment practically duplicated that of the Congrsssionals. Incidentally the Congressional equipment made two round trips each day. There was the Morning Congressional and the Afternoon Congressional, with identacle equipment, except that often the morning trains ran with a shortened consist. The Senator to Boston usually ran with older head-end equipment that somewhat spoiled the esthetics, but otherwise the trains were similarly very beautiful, including the blunt end observation cars. For years the equipment was dedicated and was not mixed with New Haven or other older PRR equipment. Much of this Budd equipment was widely dispersed during Penn Central days and some even wound up on Chicago Detroit service. Amtrak took all or most of the equipment, and rebuilt most into "Clocker " coaches with non-reclining seats and high capacity. In mosse cases, the glass partition separating the end smoker section with its parlor like aisle-facing seats was removed, but not in all cases. I think the seats were still reversable but normal practice was to have half facing each way, toward the near end, and that meant that half the people were riding backwards with a full load. The last time I rode one was on a Harrisburgh - Phila train about 1995. Who has them now?

[Anonymous]

Good Monday mornin' members and to all you working folks: "A journey of 1,000 miles begins with the frist step."[:D] Tom, yesterday turned into a nice Photo Day with great diversity of intrests.[tup] I think a cruller and a cuppa Joe for now.[^] Ya just gotta love the Illinois Central livery on those smooth sides and E-9A diesel, especially in S gauge. It doesn't get any better.[tup]

Doug, the flat end observation pic dissapearing into the dust is famliar to me. I've seen it many times but can't recall what Road name goes with it. For sure, the "Track Walker" had a thankless, tedious job with awesome responsiblities. Back in the 1950s, I recall a tragic event where, at the last possible second, a track crewman threw a switch and the Super Chief careened into a passing siding holding a freight consist. It was a terrible conflagration with many fatalities. Another occured on the U.P. when a crazed disgruntled employee sabotaged the mainline and the City of Los Angeles (if memory serves) plunged into a dry arroyo causing many casualties. There were many more, too numerous to mention here.

Rob, excellent pix of C.N., C.P. and O.S. R. rolling stock, locomotives and, especially, that "Velocipede"* (track car).[tup] Nick's shot of the Ontario Northland diesel is a "keeper" for sure. What a neat livery, eh? Al, the data on the Congressionals and Senators brought back some great memories, thanks.[^] Earlydiesels Dan, sure glad you are back "among the living."[swg] Your additional input on the "Great Locomotive Chase" was helpful and informative.[tup] Anything more on R.R. during the U.S. Civil War might be of intrest from time to time. There does seem to be curiosity from a few members.

Still trying to "put together" your "whos on first" board game for those "shut in" days this Winter Nick. Don't think I understand all I know about it.[:O] Maybe I'd best stay with Chinese Checkers.[(-D] BTW, your last menus have been archived in the Wine Cellar files for posterity.[tup]

Yes I know, I still haven't caught up with everything to date but I'm working on it.[banghead] Okay Boris, what is the next thing your duties require? He went to the Men's Room.[:(!] "What we gonna do" with that [alien]? See ya's later.

* Velocipede taken from Doug's last "Track Walker" series.

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for Coffee and a diet pastry from the Mentor Bakery.

Sure enjoyed yesterdays photo posts especially partial to the IC S Gauge Streamliner on your layout. Don't know what it is about S-Gauge but somehow it just seems to be the right size for detail and always seems to look the most realistic of all of the gauges next to 1' to 1'.

Nick thanks for the captions on the pictures.

Rob Enjoyed your pics as well. Keep them coming.

Dave Just so happens todays Streamliners in PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER covers the SENATORS.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER #15

SENATORS PRR -NYNH&H trains 176-177 Inaugurated as streamliners March 17, 1952 between Boston and Washington D.C. via New York 446.5 miles each direction scheduled for 8 hours 15 minutes.

The PRR introduced new streamlined SENATORS to the Washington - Bostron runs beginning March 17, 1952. Unlike the COLONIAL and FEDERAL that were owned jointly by the PRR and NYNH&H the fourteen car SENATORS were PRR owned only.

Each operating road provided the motive power over its own lines.
Each of the new SENATOR CONSISTS were assigned eight 60-revenue seat coaches for a toatal coach capacity of 480 and four parlor cars were assigned with a capacity of 116 passengers. One train set operated in each direction daily

The following is the streamlined SENATOR consists as they departed and arrive Washington on March 17, 1952.

CONSIST ONE

4830 GG-1 ELectric Passenger Locomotive

1584 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1585 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1586 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1587 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1588 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1155 18-Seat Lunch Counter Bar 21-Seat Tavern Lounge Car

1589 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1590 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1591 60-Revenue Seat Coach

4525 48-Seat Dining Car

7138 BARON DeKALB 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7139 HENRY HUDSON 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7140 MILES STANDISH 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7126 BENJAMIN FRANKLIN 14-Revenue Seat Parlor Telephone Room Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Observation

CONSIST TWO

4836 GG-1 Electric Passenger Locomotive

1592 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1593 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1594 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1595 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1596 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1156 18-Seat Lunch Counter Bar 21-Seat Tavern Lounge Car

1597 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1598 60-Revenue Seat Coach

1599 60-Revenue Seat Coach

4526 48-Seat Dining Car

7141 PAUL REVERE 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7142 ROGER WILLIAMS 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7144 NATHAN HALE 29-Revenue Seat Parlor Car with 5-Revenue Seat Parlor Drawing Room

7127 MARTHA WASHINGTON 14-Revenue Seat Parlor Telephone Room Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Observation

TTFN AL

[passengerfan]

Too early I guess the SENATORS is actually Streamliner corner #16 not 15.

Sorry.

[siberianmo]

Mornin’ Guyz!

Given that I don’t “do” long, inclusive Posts on Sunday, I’ll try to catch up on anything missed in my brief acknowledgment.

A word: You may note that I do NOT acknowledge Posts from anyone who fails to participate in the banter at the bar – no greeting to the barkeep, no ordering of a drink and/or food - no “service” so to speak! My call as Proprietor. Those hit ‘n run folks are not welcome here. Can’t prevent them from Posting, but we sure don’t have to encourage them!

ftwNSengineer NSE Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 23:13:17

Given what you do for a living, my bet is that you see all kinds of things the rest of us either have forgotten about or don’t know of. Do you recall the markings on those brown Trailer Train flats you referred to [?]

barndad Doug Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 06:44:59 and 07:33:39

Yesterday was a good day to catch up on my reading – those Walking the Track Posts are an interesting and worthwhile read. Highly recommended reading. I had no clue, once again, of this aspect of railroading. Given the world we live in today, wonder what extraordinary measures are taken to ensure no one is tampering with the tracks [?] I also wonder how many dedicated and motivated people the RR’s could find to do the type of things that the Track Walkers did [?] Good stuff. [tup][tup]

Your Email has been received and I appreciate your understand. Repy en route … [tup]

passengerfan Al Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 09:49:57 and 28 Nov 2005, 06:44:30

Anything powered by a GG-1 is a favorite of mine! I had the pleasure of traveling aboard the Congressional and believe I’ve told the story on these pages before. Great train – wonderful equipment. Good show. [tup][tup]

Also I think I have been aboard the “Senator,” enroute WashDC from Boston. I boarded in New London, CT back in the mid-50s. Another well done and appreciated “Streamliner” Post! [tup][tup]

I concur about the 1/64 scale for S trains. They really are just the right size as far as I’m concerned. No regrets regarding my purchases and although everything you see on that “ceiling suspended layout” is all it will ever be (no room for expansion) I see many years of pleasure just running those consists round ‘n round ……. The sound systems within the EMD E8 and F7A are absolutely “on the mark” and really add to the pleasure of it all.

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 06:39:58

Ditto on the commentary (above) for the S-gauge trains. [yeah] Those “smoothsides” in that IC livery, powered by the EMD E8A are the “cat’s meow!”

I share your thoughts regarding Sir Nick’s board game. We need some clarification, Mate! [swg]


Okay, between this Acknowledgment and the one from yesterday, I think I’ve covered everyone.


Later, Gents!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[red p]

Morning bar keep, coffee fre***his morning?
well about that Brown TT flat. I really didnt get a close look at it the only thing I remember is that it had the traditional "trailertrain" spelled out on the side of it.

[siberianmo]

A NOTE for all who Post here!

Some of this may be repetitious, however, we have some new guys who may appreciate this info:

When you log in to this Forum (Classic Trains) and see the listings for the topics, you are NOT getting the most CURRENT Posts if you simply click on what you see.

Click on "Active Topics." Use the “Active Topics Since” option (near the top, at the middle) and click on “last 12 hours –or- last 6 hours” etc., and you will then get “refreshed” info.

Another way to ensure that you are reading the MOST CURRENT info, is once you have called up the last page shown for “Our” Place and BEFORE you decide to respond, use the “REFRESH” or “RELOAD” option (usually located at the top bar of your screen). This will call up the MOST CURRENT info.

I cannot explain why the Forums operate this way, but they do. Since I am here more time than most, I see it happen several times a day where someone Posts, but does not respond to information that has been “out there” for an hour or more. Reason [?] Who knows! But one way to circumvent it is to use either of my “procedures” explained above.

For the guys who seemingly have repetitious problems with losing information before it gets Posted – use a word processor program to prepare your material. Cut ‘n paste it to the “message block” on the Thread. Should it get “lost” you always can retrieve it from your WP program. Simple enough, eh [?]

Finally, try to stick around for a couple of minutes AFTER you have Posted – then use the “REFRESH” or “RELOAD” option, just to see if someone has Posted during the time you were preparing yours.


None of this is difficult but will surely keep you “on target” if you are interested in such things. [tup]


Later!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #32

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check out this advertisement regarding the Pullman Company from 1950:

. . . . . . . . . . The carefree way to travel today! . . . . . . . . . .
Whether you travel for business or pleasure . . . alone or with others . . . you’re taking more than a trip when you go by Pullman. You’re enjoying a relaxing change of pace that releases you from the cares and routine of the day. For Pullman is as comfortable and accommodating as the finest hotel. No other form of travel offers so many important extras – the immaculate, king-size beds . . . the privacy . . . the freshly cooked meals . . . the refreshments and pleasant conversation in the friendly club car. Whenever . . . wherever you go . . . travel by Pullman. You’ll be as safe as you are in your own home!

Your local Ticket Agent will help:
1. Provide information on routes and fares. 2. Plan your stopovers. 3. Furnish your railroad Pullman tickets. 4. Reserve a “rent-a-car” at your destination.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Pullman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . means comfort, safety, privacy and sleep . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

CHECK THE MONDAY SUMMARY and INDEX PAGES FOR MORE GREAT NOSTALGIA POSTS!

[trolleyboy]

Good afternoon Tom et al I'll have a coffee and a selection of the sandwich board.Having trouble keeping the peepers peeping as it were. These weeks of halg midnights half day(z)e are killing me.[xx(]

Tom The passenger cars are actually Algoma Central. From my trip on the agawa canyon trip in 2003. Ment to post the photo of CNR 6060 a mountain type locomotive still running in excursion service in Alberta. Seems when railimages upgraded some of the letter codes for the pictures changed. anyway if and when i get the proper ID tag for the photo I'll repost it. She's the last of the Bullet nosed Betty's also the last mountains indeed steam loco's built for the CNR. They came out of MLW in 1944/45

tom The s-capades is comming along rather nicely I would say.[tup]

Nick Also very nice pictures. I particularly like the Via yard shot. Nice difference in profile between the FPA4's on the one train and the FP7/9's on the Candian .
Also the welsh steam ain't to bad either [:-^][swg]

Ted The old ONR paint job is a keeper ! Too bad they changed it over to the snoring boring [zzz] blue and yellow of today. They still have two of those f units in reserve for their passenger trains albeit repowered with caterpiller 12 cylander engines. They just don't sound the same. They are almost zombie like,they move and look like f-units but they lake the old EMD soul [xx(]

FW thank's for adding in your picture for the day as well. I thought of you the other day, saturday I guess it was. I was down at the Brantford via station ( going to the small hobby shop there ) and train 327 ( CN number for it ) came limping into the station. This is one of the two NS autoparts trains that cut accross southern Ontario. Seems as though both of it's technitoaster dash 9's crapped out on the Dundas sub hill, couldn't make it above 20mph. Seems that alot of GE engines die on the hill. Via has haaad fits with the genesis passssenger units ( term loosly used ) on this hill as well. the EMD's don't seem to mind the hill oh well.


Al Another couple of fine streamliner posts as well. I'm with Tom anything pulled by GG1's is alright in my books [swg]


Till later all

Rob

[red p]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trolleyboy
FW thank's for adding in your picture for the day as well. I thought of you the other day, saturday I guess it was. I was down at the Brantford via station ( going to the small hobby shop there ) and train 327 ( CN number for it ) came limping into the station. This is one of the two NS autoparts trains that cut accross southern Ontario. Seems as though both of it's technitoaster dash 9's crapped out on the Dundas sub hill, couldn't make it above 20mph. Seems that alot of GE engines die on the hill. Via has haaad fits with the genesis passssenger units ( term loosly used ) on this hill as well. the EMD's don't seem to mind the hill oh well.

The thing to remember about GE units is that they are slow loading compared to EMDs.
EMDs are built for fast acceleration.
GEs are built for tonnage.
Sounds like the GEs Stalling out before they get their load up. At which case they need a good running start at the hill. We use the GEs on most of our heavy coal trains and we dont have a problem.
We have figured out that the best locomotive combination is to have a 6600 (an EMD SD im not sure which one right off hand) in the lead and the GE wide body in the trail. The GEs seem to do better with the 6600 telling it what to do. (and I have no idea why)

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Not much happen' on this Monday - at least thus far! Never know at the "Feast or Famine Bar 'n Grill!" [swg]


ftwNSengineer NSE Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 08:43:22

Somehwere in my "memory banks" I seem to recall seeing those cars on a trip in Canada. Only reason I have such a thought is that they were marked with a CN/CP logo - I never saw anything like that before. Oh well ......

Recommend you Post that "letter" over here .. you'll get much more of a response.

trolleyboy Rob Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 13:23:11

If I didn't spend so much "blankety blank" time at the keyboard, I'd have much more done with my model railroading! [swg] Just typed up a half dozen more NOSTALGIA pieces for future Posting. Gotta stay ahead of it ... otherwise, kerplunk - over the side. [:O]

Nice looking coaches - would love to experience some travel aboard those! [tup] Alberta is a wonderful Province and it would take me no more than a "heartbeat" to go and never return! [yeah] BUT - it would have to be north - I want mountains, snow and cold winters. [swg]

Hopefully you will soon return to the "land of the living." Aint' the same 'round here without you!

Start thinking about next Sunday's pix .... I'm fresh out. If we don't do it, it ain't gonna happen (spreads that is).

By the by, WHO is "FW" [?] Somebody sneak in the back door [?] [swg] Perhaps a friend of your Teutonic gals [?] Never know ......... [swg]

Later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[red p]

Ok Tom Im back, and I brought the letter with me just be careful with it, its almost 40 years old.

I bought some timetables off EBAY awhile back ago. And when the package arrived this letter was enclosed as well.

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