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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, July 2, 2005 8:47 AM
Morning All time for coffee and another diet danish. Friend of mine who's larger than me said his doctor told him to lose weight a couple of years ago but he found a hevay doctor and that solved his problem.
Just got the format all finally set the way I liked it on the forthcoming book it now stands at 266 pages and hopefully about twenty more should complete it. But I thought twenty would complete it about sixty pages ago.
Anyway I am looking forward to the fourth will probably drink a fifth in celebration and feel like you know what on the fifth.
Well must get on with the book bye for now But before I go continued improving health to Chris and anyone else who is ailing this AM.
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 9:41 AM
SATURDAY SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

Long retired from anything truly productive, these formerly rare (for me) long weekends always seemed as if they were full of Saturday’s. Nothin’ wrong with that! [tup] – so whatillyahave this fine day [?]

WHERE’s NICK[?]

Meeting results of the Selection Committee of the Order of the Stools:

It has been decreed that the Order of the Stools be revised to reflect the following:

Permanent Stool Chris First customer, [^] Barrister and Quebec connection
Permanent Stool Ted Customer with unparalleled good cheer [swg] and determination
Permanent Stool Nick Chief Chef [C=:-)] of “Our” Place and customer supreme from West Wales
Permanent Stool Trolleyboy Rob If it concerns street cars, talk to me! – and Ontario connection
Permanent Stool Passengerfan Al Walking, talking “Classic Train” Aficionado [2c] from California
Reserved Stool *** Watkins Rail enthusiast, world traveler – and Texas [C):-)] connection
Reserved Stool earlydiesels Dan Restorations are us! … And train lover at large [2c]
Reserved Stool West Coast S Dave California man of mystery [8D] and west coast connection
Reserved Stool coalminer 3 Northeast rail Aficionado [2c] and West Virginia connection
Reserved Stool Gunns Kevin Machinist, loco restorationist supreme [2c] and New Mexico connection
Reserved Stool Trainnut484 Russell AT&SF and rail enthusiast, model railroader [:D] and Kansas connection.


Congrats [bow][wow][yeah] to passengerfan Al for the Permanent Stool award and to Gunns Kevin & Trainnut484 Russell for Reserved Stool membership! Have a couple on me! [tup] [swg]

For the benefit of those who are new or who have forgotten, the The Order of the Stools is ”Our” Place’s way of recognizing those customers who have demonstrated their willingness to participate and contribute to the success of this cyber bar ‘n grill.

On to the SUMMARY with limited comments from me and few smilies/graphics/photos ........

QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 01 Jul 2005, 19:21:06
Hello everyone. I'll take one of those cold, bottomless, draughts again, please. Thanks for the kind words about volunteering,

Tom. I just love trains and realized several years ago that I could continue to be one of those railfans that sit around and look at pix or I could go out and help preserve what's left and hopefully get younger people involved in preservation. One of our biggest challenges at all the groups we belong to is attracting and keeping new blood. At the Midland, we have a Boy Scout program that benefits all involved and has given us several good members over the years, but we still have a tremendous need for younger folks. The wife and I are some of the youngest members on the rr. I would think that a railfan who is really interested in rrs would jump at the chance to help operate a real, live full size railroad-especially with a large metro area so close. I sure did-and we live 228 miles away! After helping out at the Midland for 8 years, I have realized lots of railfans just worship the equipment. Yeah, some of it is nice and I am glad it's been preserved, but the rolling stock has to be viewed as part of a much larger picture. It's also cold and lifeless without humans around.

Many people of all ages have never ridden a train of any kind and these are the people who enjoy themselves the most and also could care less about what kind of equipment we have so long as it is comfortable. This segment of our patrons also pays most of our bills.

This is not meant to be a diatribe against railfans. All of us are railfans and wouldn’t be doing any of this if we did not enjoy it. Most of us watch trains when we get a chance and some of us do special trips to look at different trains.
Good Grief! I don't know where that came from and I need another beer! Gunns, people like you are the backbone of the preservation movement. I am just into operations and don't have much mechanical background. I don't even change the oil in our trucks anymore.

Chris, good to hear from you again. Hang in there!

Tomorrow we will be at the rr so will be back Monday. Is OUR PLACE open on the 4th, Tom?

Russ, if you aren't busy you should visit the Midland Saturday or Sunday and say hello. I am marked up for relief(switch) engineer both days but just got an IM that our passing siding might be back in service tomorrow so I may be floating where ever I'm needed.


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 01 Jul 2005, 20:04:36
Hi earlydiesels-Dan and everyone! Friday night at the bar and the steaks 'n fries are ready for eatin' ........ beer is cold, the gals are workin ..... Juke is blarin' out some tunes and the pool tables are waitn' - What more could you ask for [?] Whatillyahave [?]

Check out the beginning of Thursday's SUMMARY - good things happenin' here on the 4th!

I know exactly where you're coming from .... and I agree with your assessment of preservationists and those who give a hoot about making sure that this country's loco's and rolling stock isn't confined to just pictures and film.

Those who possess the skills to bring alive the E8's - steam loco's - F7's - heavyweights - cabooses - PA's - trolleys, et al - deserve one helluva pat on the back for what they do.

It doesn't end there, though. Some are equally gifted in ensuring that the operations go off without a hitch - that the interiors look and feel the way they once did - that the total experience of yesterday's railroads can be recreated, even for a small segment of time! So you , and your wife, are in that category Dan, appreciated and needed as well!

Enjoy the weekend!
Tom


QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 01 Jul 2005, 23:41:29
Hi all,
coffee, and a sandwich.

Well I ruined my first pattern for the builder’s plate, not a great loss though, the materials were not up to the job of being carved to form. Plywood is too coarse grained to stand up to the carving, but I learned a lot and got a good feel for the layout. Next attempt will be with masonite and will have seperatly made letters glued on to the plate, then the masonite pattern will be glued to plywood to make up the thickness I need. Tomorrow is work day again, and a report will be forth coming. first rounds went well with nothing much to report at work, a slow night is a good night in my job<g>.
later,
Gunns


QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: Today, 01:20:08
Good evening everyone. It was a long and tiring July 1st but we had a great crowd and even better weather at the museum.

Tom I think in honour of my country I'll have a couple of draft Mooseheads and a crown chaser. (I'm off tthe clock and brought a seatbelt for the stool)

Gunns I'm not a machinist but I would think that your on the right path for the impac gun.I know are guys tend to use manual tools for most work but none of our equipment contains large high pressure boilers.The tools of the trade just don't exist other than museum pieces(which we still use}we've been lucky enough to get tools donated from various sources over the years which were built specifically to work on our type of equipment. Our guys have "built tools" when needed we even gone to B&D and other tool companies and had specific old imperial measure tools made for us $$$ but necessary as none of our cars were built with metric parts. Shop wise I’d say a fully equipped wood and metal shop with lathes, milling machines shears etc. Good air supply compressor for the impact tools and above all the skilled people to operate them. I'm usually the shop gofer as in gofer the tool. Or I'm the grind and clean up guy. Oh well one starts at the bottom while learning.

Ted Not good to put the cars in emergency like that most electrics will stand on their nose never good for the riding public. I remember one of our operators who never quite learned how to run a Whitt, we ended up not giving him a ticket as he was just hopeless in training. It is a knack and some people just aren't cut out for it. My father in law remembers training this gut and he let the pressure on the deadman off which instantly dumps the air and puts the car into emergency.(on the Peter Whitt's one must exert downward pressure on the controller while moving the car. This is the deadman kill switch ) Unfortunately 2786 the Whitt in question had the original K37 controller with Westinghouse brakes, so once the air dumps the brake cylinders lock. So the shop guys have to manually release the cylinder on the trucks to free up the brakes.25 minute job. Thankfully our training sessions are all after hours! All the Whitt's have had this feature modernized so one no longer needs to manually free the brakes in an emergency stop situation.

Tom Don't tempt me, if you order some Bowsers for the Can Am I will come ( hack saw and trolley wire in hand ) I've never been to St Louis and would someday like to see it. Well gents I'm a tired and heading for the car barn. Talk to you all tomorrow. Rob


QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 02 July 2005, 01:25:32
Tom your right I never have been to sea.I did think of joining the RCN but ended up on a differant career path.Mind you ships are an alternate hobby of mine and I did have a one week cruise of Lake Ontario once. But that's way [#offtopic] so let me grab a round. Nite all.

Rob Thought somewhere in our many Emails or perhaps on the old Canadian Passenger Railraods - Let's Talk! thread that the invitation was extended for you and Heather to c'mon down ....... So, let me repeat it - love to have ya [tup] [swg] ..... Bowsers [?] now that would be something indeed. Tempt YOU [?] Don't tempt ME! [swg]
Tom

QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 02 July 2005, 02:38:26
More Coffee!!,
An Idea just Smote me,
and Ya'll are elected to vette it, our tender has 8 wheel buckeye trucks under it, these trucks have 4 points where the side frames are pivoted to a mainframe for equalization <don’t mind the spelling it's late>, we need to bore out the frames to replace the bearings. The commercial machine costs 16000.00 and more than we want to pay even to rent, Sooo, I am thinking of building a parallel from 3 inch angle iron <a top angle welded to two side angles > placing that across the truck frames above the pivot to be bored, strapping it down then strapping a drill press <striped of its table and base> so that the center line if the drills advance is pointed down the center of the pivot point of the truck. We then put a fly cutter in the chuck <adjusted to cut the needed dia.> and punch out our holes to the right size for the new bearings. A tool extender may be needed to make the full depth of cut, but that shouldn't be a problem.

Am I missing something? <other than knowing how to spell>
Gunns

Congrats on your acceptance into our Reserved Stool Club! [yeah] [tup] [swg]

No doubt your comments will strike a chord with those who understand and are into the type of work you describe. Keep ‘em comin’ – your contributions help make “Our” Place remain viable.

Spelling [?] Don’t sweat the small stuff – I catch ‘em when I do the SUMMARIES – nothing personal – correct my own many times as well! [swg]
Tom

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 02 July 2005, 08:47:14
Morning All time for coffee and another diet Danish. Friend of mine who's larger than me said his doctor told him to lose weight a couple of years ago but he found a heavy doctor and that solved his problem.
Just got the format all finally set the way I liked it on the forthcoming book it now stands at 266 pages and hopefully about twenty more should complete it. But I thought twenty would complete it about sixty pages ago.
Anyway I am looking forward to the fourth will probably drink a fifth in celebration and feel like you know what on the fifth.
Well must get on with the book bye for now But before I go continued improving health to Chris and anyone else who is ailing this AM.

Diet Danish [?] [yeah] Right! But, if it works for you, help yourself! [tup] [swg] Sorry we missed you live this AM – Congrats on your Permanent Stool award! [yeah] [bow] [wow]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of “Our” Place


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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 2, 2005 11:02 AM
I suppose it may be "off topic" to do very much ranting over our two Country's Birthdays, so Tom, please ring the bell a couple of times "on me." I would ask Boris but he has "a thing" for bell clappers. (???)[alien] Since we "did in" most of the Crown Royal yesterday (Canada Day), I'll settle for a Jack Daniels Black Label in the interest of my "patriotic duty." Better mix that with soda Tom as I'm not real "big" on Bourbon, thanks. These back-to-back Holidays can be down right dangerous so I'll go home via Mylow Claude Ball's Red Top Taxi service ( a word to the wise). [C=:-)]Nick, if all is forgiven, please join us in the tipple of your choice..a Gin and Tonic perhaps?

Rob and Gunns, you gents are far too modest in accepting the accolades from your peers with the work you guys do in preserving our great rail heritage. If I wore a hat, it would be in my hand now! Salute! This group is truly exceptional and may we all raise a tankard to the liberties we enjoy that make a site like "Our" Place possible and free from the fear of tyranical censorship. Naturally, that goes for Jolly Olde England as well.[tup]

I did something rare this a.m. (for me). I saw a HO Roundhouse [M.D.C.I.] Pullman Palace Car kit at the LHS and did an "impulse purchase." Its a plastic (also rare for me) model of a 1890's A.T.& S.F. wooden obeservation car (80') replete with ten oval (vanity style) windows, brass (colored) fixtures, 16 stained glass (upper) frame (arched) windows, and copius under body and roof details. I'll use Central Valley (vintage) trucks which I "stock piled" years ago. [reminds me, I need to do an inventory soon] I'm glad I broke my oath today: its a darn nice kit.[tup] One question about this model! It is painted a Coach Green (w/gold fillagree). Shouldn't it be the old Santa Fe light brown (tan) color for that vintage car?

Okay, enough of my palaver for now. Everyone have a happy, safe Holiday and if you are motoring; you have my sympathy. Tom, I understand P.I. Doyle is back in London at 222 Baker St. Perhaps Insp. Clueless could "shoot" an A.P.B. his way for [C=:-)]Nick's whereabouts. Personally, I think he is hell bent on running his new multi train operation or had some altercation at one of his "gigs," Heaven forbid![:O]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 12:03 PM
Hi Ted That was quite a morning post [swg] [;)] Black Label JD comin' right up [tup] love that stuff myself ...... just a wee bit too early in the day for me, tho.. [swg]

Oh [yeah] no problem with the bell clapper supply, they're right over there beneath pool table #1. Came in with the supply of pickled pig's feet. [?]

Mylow Cluade Ball's Red Top Taxi service [?] [wow] this may really cause our young friend Rob to jump aboard his trolley and scoot! (Do trolley's scoot [?] - probably not. [swg]

Happy to learn that you're not the only one who yeilds to temptation now 'n then .... I don't know your setup, but I've found that display cases are perfect for those gotta haves of the hobby. In the pix of my Can-Am trainroom, you'll catch a glimpse or three of them ... good place for your Pullman Palace Car. My guess is that you'll soon be reading some thoughts regarding the proper colors.[tup]

That's interesting what you said about Mr. Doyle, Private Investigatgor being back in Merry Olde - last I saw of him and Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary was during earlydiesels Dan's Birthday Bash. They took on the job of security and as the evening wound down - they wound up with two of our gals, heading for the uppermost floor of "Our" Place - the Penthouse Suite. Haven't seen 'em since. Also, Cindy and Nick were last seen together ........ hmmmmmmm. Could it be [?] Nah. But....... hmmmmmmm. Maybe [?]

Still awaiting that Email regarding my Amrak/KCity or Chicago thoughts ......[;)]

Tom
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 2, 2005 1:36 PM
Hi again Tom, just wanted to let you know "you have mail" and cast aside any thoughts of our "security" people engaging in any clandestine tristes. Not a bit of it, Boris checked the upstairs bath tub for "tell tale" rings and there were none (more is the pity). Also, Doyle is back in Tea Town and advised of our Chef's absence just in the "Nick" of time, ooooh![V] I can't stay but will have another quick JD please, strictly for "patriotic" considerations, don't ya know?[;)]
Again, happy hoilday to all. Ted
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 1:46 PM
Ted Email received and responded to! Thanx [tup]

Where and how are you getting your updates regarding our Sleuth's [?] The gals have since returned to work, but these two have been MIA since their hiatus to the Penthouse Suite. And ... Good Gawd Gertie, don't let Boris anywhere near the upstairs bathtup to the left of the second door on the right. That's where Nick's kitchen money is kept. [:0]

So, Jack Daniels was a Patriot, huh [?] Boston Patriot as in original AFL team now known as the New England version [?] Whatever ....... enjoy! [tup] [swg]
Tom

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Saturday, July 2, 2005 2:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by earlydiesels

Russ, if you aren't busy you should visit the Midland Saturday or Sunday and say hello. I am marked up for relief(switch) engineer both days but just got an IM that our passing siding might be back in service tomorrow so I may be floating whereever I'm needed.


earlydiesels - Dan,

I can make it Sunday morning (tomorrow) providing the weather is not raining or not too hot. Could you email me tonight? I heard something on the grapevine this morning. My email address is atsffan@hotmail.com

Take care,

Russell
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 5:17 PM
Hey Boris don't let him out .... C'mon back Russell .... Whazzup [?] Just come on in - leave a message - walk out [?]

No hello - no brew - no food - no nuttin'! Geesh!

Okay, Boris let him go .........[:(]
Tom
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Saturday, July 2, 2005 5:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

Hey Boris don't let him out .... C'mon back Russell .... Whazzup [?] Just come on in - leave a message - walk out [?]

No hello - no brew - no food - no nuttin'! Geesh!

Okay, Boris let him go .........[:(]
Tom


Hearty Hello to everyone [:)] I'll take my usual Miller Lite

Sorry Tom and Boris. Had some home cooked breakfast this morn and I felt if i had one more bite of anything...well...Boris would have to do some heavy cleaning, and would need more than just a plunger [}:)][;)]

I thought earlydiesels-dan would check in from the Midland, but according to his last post, he won't be in till the 4th. Slight oversight on my part [oops]

Take care,

Russell
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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, July 2, 2005 6:13 PM
Good afternoon everyone. If the crown's gone I'll have a couple of keith's.TomTrolley's can scoot but it's not considered dignified. LOL If we really wanted to our Whitt's and the PCC's are quite capable of hitting the 60 MPH mark 100KM's for those of us who are metrically inclined. Take a peak at Bowser's website Tom they have some nice running trolly's for that new transit system on the canam. A line from Our place down to the Union station would look quite good don't you think.Not to worry if ever we are in MO we will drop you the appropriate warning e-mail.[tup] Ted I think you are likely right on the paint job on the palace car. They are nice kits however.I've been looking at them as a potential spare parts sorce for interurban car scratch building projects.[oops][#offtopic] again. I see Boris is already setting up the shots for everyone.The sooner the trolley lines installed the better Tom. Catch you all later. Rob
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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, July 2, 2005 6:19 PM
Thanks all for the permanent stool status . I am truly honored and will use it well. Well I guess that calls for a round for the house. Finally got the 266 completed pages of my book in the format that i wanted and am quite pleased. Now it is time for me to quit stalling and complete the tome.
My wife says if I ever mention writing a book again I will be living with my computer alone. Some things women just don't understand. She says it would be better if i locked myself in the spare room with a mistress that she could understand. Maybe I should have a mistress climbing through the window on the next book if she can understand that. Again thanks for the honor of a permanent stool . Maybe we should form the Royal Order of The Permanent Stools . Sounds Good to Me.
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 6:57 PM
I SEE NICK IS ON LINE!
Tom
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 7:02 PM
For: Trainnut484 Russell The round's on you and all's forgiven - ring the bell Boris [yeah]

I think the point of my Email to you has been missed - check out today's SUMMARY ....... [tup] [swg]
Tom
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Saturday, July 2, 2005 7:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

For: Trainnut484 Russell The round's on you and all's forgiven - ring the bell Boris [yeah]

I think the point of my Email to you has been missed - check out today's SUMMARY ....... [tup] [swg]
Tom


Hello all again,

Tom, of course thanks for the Reserved Stool status[:D][tup][yeah]. I SEE your online too ROFL.[(-D]

I'll just take another Miller Lite and sit on my stool (not porcelain..GOOD!)

Take care,

Russell
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 7:08 PM
For: Trolleyboy Rob Startin' to llke those Alexander Keith's [?] Great ale, really smooth ..... Haven't found a thing that I don't like about Nova Scotia and Halifax in particular!

I haven't a clue about next year's baseball schedule, much less hockey. But should the Blue Jays or Maple Leafs come to town, that would be a great time for you and Heather to be in town. Sports - trains - sightseeing - [yeah] would be great! [tup]

Regarding that trolley line you proposed - you'd have to see the overall set up to realize that one cannot get from the City to "Our" Place by any other way than heavy rail and winding, country roads. However, I've been mulling over adding a section to my City scene, thereby possibly permitting some traction. Sound good to you? [;)]
Tom


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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 7:13 PM
Awwwwwwwright Russell - was beginning to wonder about you!

As a Regular of "Our" Place you now have been bestowed with certain responsibilities - one of which is never, ever, leave a beer undrunk! Or something like that ......... on the serious side, you are now an official supporter of the joint! [tup] [swg]

Gotta take Juneau for his evening one mile trek ....
See ya later!
Tom
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 7:50 PM
For: passengerfan Al
Funny thing about those SUMMARIES they DO contain info that from time to time holds special meaning for one or more of us ........ [swg]

Congrats - again! The Royal Order of the Permanent Stools eh [?] Now there's a thought.. Secret handshake, behind the bar privileges, Penthouse Suite key and no waiting in line for pizza on Friday's Pizza Night. [yeah], why not [?] The Committee will have to consider this idea at its next gathering.

Glad you came up for air, if only for a minute or two ........ [tup] [swg]
Tom
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, July 2, 2005 7:51 PM
Evening chaps,Tom one of those bottomless beers if you please,apologies for unexpected absense-just getting into a party groove for Dan & our service provider elected to initiate some sort of system update -fairly predictable result,8 days without net access.....nice work guys[banghead] The worst of it is that Cindy had just agreed to show me her new tattoo.....still another party draws near[}:)] Glad to hear word from Chris-Take it easy up there-a little light armchair modelling for you I think ! Right,just gonna pop out the back and check on Boris -bit of a mystery about the `latex companions`-I thought I`d locked that catalogue away -I dont want to think about how they were paid for...........Tom,a round for these fine gents and an Alexanders for yourself, 58 E-mails awaiting plus U.S. leg of live8 show on tube--man ,The Who were something at the London show!!!!!!! back soon,nick[C=:-)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 8:04 PM
[#welcome] Back Nick [yeah]! Sure had us wondering just what had happened and why [?] So, Cindy IS still with you and has a tatoo. Oh, that will go over real well at the next university faculty meeting. Of course, when she's working her other job at the Victoria Secret's lingerie show, perhaps it will add to the mystique of it all. [wow]

Boris and his dolls have become quite the thing and he's extremely protective of them, so be careful.

Yes, the next Birthday Bash is Friday, July 15th for ***, should he ever return from his globe trotting! [swg]

Thanx for spending a bit of time with us at this very late hour for you ..... Enjoy the Live 8 and see you sooner than later! [tup] [;)]
Tom
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Saturday, July 2, 2005 8:29 PM
Hello again all. (I think there's an invisible rubber band or revolving door bringing me back [(-D][:P] Boris, I'll have my usual, and later I'll ask for an unusual. Good thing, just like Rob-trolleyboy, I brought a seat belt for my stool.

Ted and Tom, here's an incentive to come to KC Union Station soon [;)]



Part of historic rails display coming soon to Union Station.

Take care,

Russell
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 2, 2005 9:30 PM
Hey Russell You're learning fast ... Just like the song, Hotel California You can check out any time you please, but you can never leave (Eagles} [swg]

Nice shot! When I was out in KCity this past spring, I took a picture of that loco from the train - we were just returning from the Wye ........ that's the trip where we were so late, the conductor let us stay aboard for the return trip. A few years ago, my wife and I saw the complete consist at Union Station. Love that livery - great stuff! [tup] [;)]

Ready for a nite cap [?] [zzz]
Tom
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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, July 2, 2005 10:29 PM
Good evening all guess I'll have a Crown royal with water back and how about a round for the house.
Tom following your traction ideas why not go ultra modern and go Maglev or maybe even older technology like Monorail. Once knew a railfan in Toronto who had a huge subway layout really interesting as could easily be seen from the sides and was very intricate in its layout believe if memory serves me right it was based on Boston and used large numbers of PCC cars many operating in multiples. Of course some of it was street running.
Really impressed with the S-gauge so far I always liked that gauge for some reason always seemed to look more realistic than the others or at least to me it does anyway. I guess the expense and space limitations keep me out of the hobby, but collect transportation books instead. That can get very expensive as well.
Well must close for now as company is beginning to ask where I disappeared to. Told them that being a Royal Member of the order of permanent stools I have certain obligayions to fulfill. Both asked if I had moved my computer into the Throne room. I don't really appreciate the inlaw humor.
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Posted by Gunns on Sunday, July 3, 2005 12:24 AM
Hey Wow!, I get to sit down?
Thanks All <G>

Coffee and dainsh please, sorry I'm late but it got long today at the work site.
Cussed rivet gun is just too lite, I want more calories in my tools!! Ed <one of our club members> and I stayed late, but still had 3 rivets left on the foot plate. I feel like I'm burning the candle at both ends, when a work session overlaps my "work week" <G> Hmm sandwich fixns....

Any way, here is the log for Sat.,

Saturday 2 July 05,

Sorry I'm late,
Today we made some noise <G>, with work on the tender foot plate <currently detached and on the ground> this is the part of the tender that the apron from the cab rides on. And gives a safe connection between tender and cab. The assembly was removed in the course of spliting the fuel bunker from the water tank, and showed some damage, with the top plate warped and a number of the 1/2 inch rivets broken. The broken rivets having been previously removed we heated and hammered in new rivets, the rivet tool we made earlier this month worked well, making well shaped rivet heads, but the air hammer was like shining a flash light on the rivets... It seems we had a tool that wasnt up to the task, and need to size up the tool, to rivet with ease. So we ended up heating the rivet in place, hammering, and reheating untill we obtained solid seated rivets. Present today was Greg Rader, from the Texas Railroad Preservation Association, we shamelessly picked his brains for our benifet,<G> and he runs a mean torch, a skill of great utility when hannering recalitcent rivets. Three rivets remain to be installed, and the foot plate will be ready for paint and installation. Also today we removed some of the brake rigging on tender truck #4, so as to complete the welding of the wear plates on it. Needle scaling of brake componets continued on truck #13 to day, and plans were finalised for the construction of a hone for the 9 inch actuators mounted on the tender trucks. <it looks like the 9 inchers were an upgrade made by AT&SF as the plans show the Locomotive was delivered with 8 inchers>. Also black paint began to apper on the tender, painting was begun on the seams and rivets of the tender prepretory to spray pinting. In the office a second computer wes set up and the drawings and shop folios were uploaded to it, also the draft of our "lesson plan in a box" was reviewed, these boxes will be in the hands of teachers of the Albuqurque Public School system for the 2005-2006 school year, the lesson plans and resources promote Railroad Safety, highlite the importance of railroads in history, and provide activities for students.

More to come,
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 3, 2005 9:25 AM
Happy Fourth Eve everyone, already the pyromaniacs (young and old) are doing their work to scare the bejemmins out of neighbors and pets. Last year, I policed-up 7 "bottle rockets" from the yard (garden) and 3 from the roof. I then placed small "Old Glories" (Flags) from whence they fell. The subtle effort "fell on deaf ears;" small wonder![:(!] Welcome back Nick [C=:-)], we missed your "Picks"[dinner] and wit[:)] around here. Oh, I'll inform Mr. Doyle to drop the case. Please Tom, "fill-em-up" and a "bottemless" for yourself....you prefer "topless?"[:)]

Let's see, R.M.O.T.O.O.P.S. ("Royal Memebers of the Order of Permanent Stools"), it does lend a certain penache to our, otherwise, pedestrian identity , no? Passengerfan Al, you just may have something there. Congratulations[tup] Russell, I always knew you would make the grade. The K.C.S. pic. really moved the adrenalin count up "over the top." [Aside: Isn't that City Hall just to the left of the E.M.D. number board]? Chris, we are here for you and many a Toast in your honor has been made. Please recouperate soon lest we, all of us, "fall to the bottle."[:O]

One more enquiry on the proper color for the 1890's Pullman Palace Santa Fe Car. Could it be "leased" from Pullman in coach green? Or, should it be the older Stl. & S.F. Olive Drab (tan)? Rob, know what you mean about canibalizing for "spare" parts. Most of my "plastics" have found their way to ground clutter in the yards, piecemeal.

Tom, if you decide to go traction (in city), I'm sure you are mindful of the overhead wire and unique track challenges at large. D.C. (and others) used "center" third rail (under ground (urban) and over head trolley (suburban). Just a thought for avoiding wire and pole hassles downtown. If you go girder rail (in street) just one rail at a 90 deg. angle to the "running rail" gets the "effect" a lot cheaper than buying "off the shelf." Mine is just a "dog bone" for continuous operation, "icing on the cake" if you will. It does add a lot to any city scape.

Granny's green gaul bladder! What's Boris using Juneau's "pooper scooper" for? Picking up coals for the B.B.Q.? Well Gents, maybe a lot of K.C. Masterpiece Sauce will do the trick? Happy Fourth all, Ted

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Sunday, July 3, 2005 11:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Theodorebear

Congratulations[tup] Russell, I always knew you would make the grade. The K.C.S. pic. really moved the adrenalin count up "over the top." [Aside: Isn't that City Hall just to the left of the E.M.D. number board]?


Hello all once again, I've brought along some of my own liquified refreshments with me today since the bar is closed (I think)

Ted, yes that's the City Hall building. I've only been in it about twice and that was just to get our marriage license.

Take care,

Russell

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, July 3, 2005 3:09 PM
In lieu of a SUNDAY SUMMARY it appears to be time to reiterate a few things ..........

THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT ”Our” Place:

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, July 3, 2005 9:41 PM
Well its time to think about what the fourth of July means to all of us. To me it means having lived another year in the home of the free and i personally am glad the war is being fought in Afghanistan and Irag than in the streets of the USA. As a veteran of a very different war I can remember well the body bags being delivered to Denang and simple coffins placed aboard the planes in Saigonfopr the last trip.
For over 200 years Americans have proudly fought and defended the changing flag and tomorrow we celebrate what remains One Nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
With that I will raise a toast to all who will join me and to all a good night.
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Posted by Gunns on Monday, July 4, 2005 2:51 AM
Pokes head in door, Coffee?
Hmm early yet, rummaging for sandwich, still at work, standing watch for the holiday

In celabration of the 4th I propose an excursion.
I'll bring the loco <2926>,a tool car, <ex US Army hospatial kitchen car> and the AT&SF "Navaho". So what cars should we pull? Remember the 2926 has 87,000 lb of drawbar pull, that translates in to 29 Pulman wieght cars. Here is a site with possable picks, http://www.aaprco.com/Cars/car_name_index.html
Next we need a destination..... say Eastern Seaboard to the Grand Canyon, what do ya think.

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Posted by Gunns on Monday, July 4, 2005 2:53 AM
Oh yes,

A toast,

Absent conpanions.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 4:03 AM

IS ANYBODY HOME?



So long as we are celebrating our "Independence," how 'bout we make sure "Our" Place remains "independent?" As Tom stated, the only thing that makes this thread unique is the interaction and sharing between members. And, the only way to share is to keep continuity between member's posts, right? And the only way to keep "continuity" is to keep up with the Summaries, also right?

Hey, if ""Our" Place were like all the other threads, I guarantee most of us wouldn't be here anymore. Several ideas from Members are still "ot there" without so much as a "**** off" from our fellow esteemed brothers. That's what happens if we ignore the Summaries. It's like trying to inventory a warehouse without a starting or an ending place. Thank heavens Uncle Tom (sorry)[:I] takes the time and has the patience to give us a "wrap" on our collective ideas.[tup] The least any of us can do is 'BE A MEMBER"and read the summaries.[[:D] You won't believe how much simpler life can be when, at a glance, you know what's been said by whom.[swg]

Excellent, please let me pick-up the tab for this distinguished group of comrades (in the bonds) and I'll exit the [soapbox] 'till next Independence Day.[;)] See ya again soon, Ted

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